Western High School Boundary Map options (A/B/C/D)

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FCPS has the most incompetent SB members on planet earth. All they had to do was pick neighborhoods in the 5 mile radius of the new Western High School, redistrict them and call it a day. But they like to waste millions on XYZ consultants or whoever to create a bigger mess and drama. Maybe the school board just loves the drama of this all. Maybe it makes them feel powerful even if it makes them look like fools on every level. This is why you need to study and screen school board member heavily before you cast a vote, otherwise you end up with no value added humans taking up important positions and decisions.

Shame on the entire FCPS school board for your sneaky last minute tactics screwing over EVERYONE. You should all resign immediately. The schools would truly operate better without you.

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't Seema Dixit represent Centreville as well (Sully District)?

Yes. But, this never made sense. This should not be a competition. Moving Lees Corner also would be more expensive for transportation. More fuel and more bus drivers and buses.

It makes even less sense to move her other constituents in Centreville, who are even farther away from Westfield. She has put herself into quite a political pickle.

Correct, and just moving the Cub Run-Chantilly area does not put enough kids at Westfield. They need either Lees Corner, Bull Run, or some other elementary school. They are moving out three schools.

Westfield will be fine. How many kids do you think they need?

2 and one half schools. Floris is split with South Lakes. And part of Coates goes to Herndon.

The FCPS materials said they were moving out around 1000 kids. They are around 2800 now.

And there is lots of new construction in the area.

[Anonymous]

Its hard to understand what the consultants are doing without the actual population numbers in each SPA.

How many students is Westfield adding from that Cub Run area?

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS has the most incompetent SB members on planet earth. All they had to do was pick neighborhoods in the 5 mile radius of the new Western High School, redistrict them and call it a day. But they like to waste millions on XYZ consultants or whoever to create a bigger mess and drama. Maybe the school board just loves the drama of this all. Maybe it makes them feel powerful even if it makes them look like fools on every level. This is why you need to study and screen school board member heavily before you cast a vote, otherwise you end up with no value added humans taking up important positions and decisions.

Shame on the entire FCPS school board for your sneaky last minute tactics screwing over EVERYONE. You should all resign immediately. The schools would truly operate better without you.

Its too bad the Republicans run such imcompetent boobs for School Board, giving people no options. Some old lady knocked on our door a few years ago right after Covid and was yammering on about trans kids and had no ideas to actually improve education. It was pathetic.

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Anonymous wrote:McDaniel just sent this out:

Dear friends,

Thank you for reaching out to my office about your concerns about recently proposed boundary changes. I wanted to make sure you receive the following joint statement to the Lees Corner Elementary School community from Sully District School Board Member Seema Dixit, and myself:

“Thank you to the parents and community members who have reached out to us regarding a draft boundary scenario that would move Lees Corner Elementary School from Chantilly High School to Westfield High School. This move is indicated in one of the three draft scenarios generated for the new Skyview High School boundaries. Based on the feedback from the Lees Corner community, it is our expectation that Lees Corner remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid."

Right result but totally inept and corrupt process.

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OK, so based on Lees Corner then the official FCPS position is that every area that doesn't want to move will stay put?

When your feedback is based in logic and supporting rationale, it carries more weight, as it should. Their argument was not just "we don't want to move." It made no sense at all to move them.

Multiple posters pointed out on here the reasons they were moved.

If they aren't moving them because no one should be moved from a closer school to a farther away school, then that theory upends the entire boundary process.

Right - the better result is to say they need to start over and even delay boundaries for Skyview, not make these one-off concessions.

Why, then, shouldn’t Ricardy Anderson and Ilryong Moon send out an email now to Bren Mar Park (a school community in eastern Fairfax fighting a different boundary change) telling them they are confident they won’t be moved to Lewis HS?

This process is absolute garbage.

Sounds like a good way to say oh well we tried! And then transition into the magnet model Reid has wanted.

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Anonymous wrote:Doesn't Seema Dixit represent Centreville as well (Sully District)?

Yes. But, this never made sense. This should not be a competition. Moving Lees Corner also would be more expensive for transportation. More fuel and more bus drivers and buses.

It makes even less sense to move her other constituents in Centreville, who are even farther away from Westfield. She has put herself into quite a political pickle.

Correct, and just moving the Cub Run-Chantilly area does not put enough kids at Westfield. They need either Lees Corner, Bull Run, or some other elementary school. They are moving out three schools.

Westfield will be fine. How many kids do you think they need?

2 and one half schools. Floris is split with South Lakes. And part of Coates goes to Herndon.

The FCPS materials said they were moving out around 1000 kids. They are around 2800 now.

That's like 65 percent utilization. Seems wasteful to me.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS has the most incompetent SB members on planet earth. All they had to do was pick neighborhoods in the 5 mile radius of the new Western High School, redistrict them and call it a day. But they like to waste millions on XYZ consultants or whoever to create a bigger mess and drama. Maybe the school board just loves the drama of this all. Maybe it makes them feel powerful even if it makes them look like fools on every level. This is why you need to study and screen school board member heavily before you cast a vote, otherwise you end up with no value added humans taking up important positions and decisions.

Shame on the entire FCPS school board for your sneaky last minute tactics screwing over EVERYONE. You should all resign immediately. The schools would truly operate better without you.

Its too bad the Republicans run such imcompetent boobs for School Board, giving people no options. Some old lady knocked on our door a few years ago right after Covid and was yammering on about trans kids and had no ideas to actually improve education. It was pathetic.

All I know is nobody should EVER vote for anyone on this school board ever again for any position. They have been disingenuous about this entire process.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

How do you know they have been successful?

Looking at the options from XYZ, it appears that they just moved pieces around with no understanding at all of the purpose and results.

Because each of their 3 scenarios has them going to Franklin MS. None left them at Carson.

It’s also on their own Rooted in Oakton website. They specifically asked to be moved to Franklin MS so their cohort could remain whole and move together with more kids to Oakton to continue their “community.”

Setting aside how annoying the RIO group is, it does make sense for them to move to Franklin if they are staying at Oakton. Shifting schools moving to Skyview between Franklin and Carson to limit split feeders is a logical thing to do.

Except in doing that, they will displace Navy families who are also going to Oakton HS and Chantilly HS. One of the scenarios has Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and then back to Oakton HS, as well as Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and Chantilly HS. So Navy will now feed into 2 middle schools all so Crossfield can go to one MS (Franklin) and stay together at Oakton HS. Does that sound fair to you?

Right now Crossfield is split between 3 middle schools Franklin - Hughes - Carson and 3 high schools. In the new scenarios, it still splits between into Franklin and Hughes. Everyone ripping on Crossfield but what you're calling unfair is what we've been doing for years.

There is only one neighborhood that goes to Hughes from Crossfield and you know it. They are totally isolated over at Hughes. All of their friends are at Carson.

I think we're on the same side here.. Crossfield should stay together, unless you're saying those kids like being isolated at Hughes

Sure but not by moving all of Crossfield to Franklin MS and displacing Navy families. Currently Navy elementary feeds 100% to Franklin MS. Our elementary is already a split feeder to 2 high schools. We are used to that. Now we are faced with yet another split feeder in middle school all becuase Crossfield wants to move to Franklin MS? I don’t get why Crossfield can’t remain zoned to Carson. Crossfield can handle split feeder middle schools because won’t they all join back again for high school? Navy never gets to do that.

If MS split feeders are the issue that this was trying to address... it would make much more sense for Lees Corner to move to Rocky Run which feeds Chantilly, then keep Navy at Franklin which feeds Oakton.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS has the most incompetent SB members on planet earth. All they had to do was pick neighborhoods in the 5 mile radius of the new Western High School, redistrict them and call it a day. But they like to waste millions on XYZ consultants or whoever to create a bigger mess and drama. Maybe the school board just loves the drama of this all. Maybe it makes them feel powerful even if it makes them look like fools on every level. This is why you need to study and screen school board member heavily before you cast a vote, otherwise you end up with no value added humans taking up important positions and decisions.

Shame on the entire FCPS school board for your sneaky last minute tactics screwing over EVERYONE. You should all resign immediately. The schools would truly operate better without you.

They did. But RIO fought them tooth and nail with excuses about sports and community. So now the whole county is screwed.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a Navy parent with an older kid who is completely indifferent about the move to Chantilly. They are both great schools. And for all of the talk of community, my child is in middle school with a lot of kids who will go to Chantilly. So it is hard to make friends and know you won't see them in high school. But if Navy gets zoned out of Oakton, then Crossfield should as well. It would make no sense to leave Crossfield there.

Crossfield mounted a huge defense and a website. They’re not only successfully petitioned to stay at Oakton, but also now have successfully been given permission to come to Franklin MS, even though Carson is closer to them. They now don’t want Carson because Carson will feed to Skyview.

How do you know they have been successful?

Looking at the options from XYZ, it appears that they just moved pieces around with no understanding at all of the purpose and results.

Because each of their 3 scenarios has them going to Franklin MS. None left them at Carson.

It’s also on their own Rooted in Oakton website. They specifically asked to be moved to Franklin MS so their cohort could remain whole and move together with more kids to Oakton to continue their “community.”

Setting aside how annoying the RIO group is, it does make sense for them to move to Franklin if they are staying at Oakton. Shifting schools moving to Skyview between Franklin and Carson to limit split feeders is a logical thing to do.

Except in doing that, they will displace Navy families who are also going to Oakton HS and Chantilly HS. One of the scenarios has Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and then back to Oakton HS, as well as Navy kids going to Rocky Run MS and Chantilly HS. So Navy will now feed into 2 middle schools all so Crossfield can go to one MS (Franklin) and stay together at Oakton HS. Does that sound fair to you?

Right now Crossfield is split between 3 middle schools Franklin - Hughes - Carson and 3 high schools. In the new scenarios, it still splits between into Franklin and Hughes. Everyone ripping on Crossfield but what you're calling unfair is what we've been doing for years.

There is only one neighborhood that goes to Hughes from Crossfield and you know it. They are totally isolated over at Hughes. All of their friends are at Carson.

I think we're on the same side here.. Crossfield should stay together, unless you're saying those kids like being isolated at Hughes

Sure but not by moving all of Crossfield to Franklin MS and displacing Navy families. Currently Navy elementary feeds 100% to Franklin MS. Our elementary is already a split feeder to 2 high schools. We are used to that. Now we are faced with yet another split feeder in middle school all becuase Crossfield wants to move to Franklin MS? I don’t get why Crossfield can’t remain zoned to Carson. Crossfield can handle split feeder middle schools because won’t they all join back again for high school? Navy never gets to do that.

If MS split feeders are the issue that this was trying to address... it would make much more sense for Lees Corner to move to Rocky Run which feeds Chantilly, then keep Navy at Franklin which feeds Oakton.

RIO wanted to move to Franklin MS, so they did. They suggested it and the consultants listened. It’s on their website.

[Anonymous]

I'm just baffled that they are paying all these consultants to do the job of FCPS staffers that we also pay to apparently do nothing, and then it all gets thrown out the window when someone has a tantrum.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS has the most incompetent SB members on planet earth. All they had to do was pick neighborhoods in the 5 mile radius of the new Western High School, redistrict them and call it a day. But they like to waste millions on XYZ consultants or whoever to create a bigger mess and drama. Maybe the school board just loves the drama of this all. Maybe it makes them feel powerful even if it makes them look like fools on every level. This is why you need to study and screen school board member heavily before you cast a vote, otherwise you end up with no value added humans taking up important positions and decisions.

Shame on the entire FCPS school board for your sneaky last minute tactics screwing over EVERYONE. You should all resign immediately. The schools would truly operate better without you.

The worst thing is that neither Reid nor the school board learned anything from the total debacle that was the county-wide review. It’s like they said to themselves “that went really well, let’s just repeat every mistake that was made with a new consultant and find some new things to screw up while we’re at it.”

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS has the most incompetent SB members on planet earth. All they had to do was pick neighborhoods in the 5 mile radius of the new Western High School, redistrict them and call it a day. But they like to waste millions on XYZ consultants or whoever to create a bigger mess and drama. Maybe the school board just loves the drama of this all. Maybe it makes them feel powerful even if it makes them look like fools on every level. This is why you need to study and screen school board member heavily before you cast a vote, otherwise you end up with no value added humans taking up important positions and decisions.

Shame on the entire FCPS school board for your sneaky last minute tactics screwing over EVERYONE. You should all resign immediately. The schools would truly operate better without you.

They did. But RIO fought them tooth and nail with excuses about sports and community. So now the whole county is screwed.

Well they should go back to the original maps now that they see the shi*show this has become. Unless there are some backdoor shenanigans there is no reason RIO should be dictating the entire outcome of the western high school and neighboring districts. Perhaps there should be an investigation as to who is pulling the strings behind the scenes.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS has the most incompetent SB members on planet earth. All they had to do was pick neighborhoods in the 5 mile radius of the new Western High School, redistrict them and call it a day. But they like to waste millions on XYZ consultants or whoever to create a bigger mess and drama. Maybe the school board just loves the drama of this all. Maybe it makes them feel powerful even if it makes them look like fools on every level. This is why you need to study and screen school board member heavily before you cast a vote, otherwise you end up with no value added humans taking up important positions and decisions.

Shame on the entire FCPS school board for your sneaky last minute tactics screwing over EVERYONE. You should all resign immediately. The schools would truly operate better without you.

The worst thing is that neither Reid nor the school board learned anything from the total debacle that was the county-wide review. It’s like they said to themselves “that went really well, let’s just repeat every mistake that was made with a new consultant and find some new things to screw up while we’re at it.”

They are fools. Not one sane voice on the board.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm just baffled that they are paying all these consultants to do the job of FCPS staffers that we also pay to apparently do nothing, and then it all gets thrown out the window when someone has a tantrum.

Not to worry, staff is working hard on the CIP as if there’s no relationship between the two processes.