MCPS covid cases

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean by that. I think we'll find that annual boosters will be more than sufficient after the third shot, but even if high-risk individuals need 6-month boosters, what's the big deal?

The vaccines are what they are. It would have been nice if they provided sterilizing immunity to further reduce case counts, but at least they're highly effective at reducing severe cases. There's nothing else coming that will significantly chance the course of the COVID- as has been discussed at length, it's not going to simply go away no matter what we do. So if the vaccine isn't enough to go back to normal, I don't think anything would be. And I don't think there are many people out there that would seriously suggest we continue masks, physical distancing, quarantines, and other NPIs forever.

There might also be anti-viral medications.

However, the county case, hospitalization, and fatality data from August and September demonstrate the effectiveness of the vaccines - and that's with a 0% vaccination rate for kids under 12. Highly vaccinated places, like Montgomery County, avoided the delta disaster experienced by places with low vaccination rates.

I don't know why that PP is such a vaccine-distruster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of our schools hasn't started testing yet and just sent out an email stating they are starting this week and it only includes 6th graders as those that are vaccinated aren't eligible. So, what are the demographics on these tests and are they going to provide more information. As of now, its only voluntary testing of unvaccinated. MCPS is putting a huge level of trust in the vaccine which makes no sense as you can still get covid vaccinated.

PP, please get help.

For everyone else -

According to the CDC, overall, in August, unvaccinated people were 6 times more likely to test positive and 11 times more likely to die from covid than vaccinated people. Among people aged 12-17, unvaccinated people were 10 times more likely to test positive; ages 18-29, 6 times more likely to test positive; ages 30-49, 6 times more likely to test positive, 37 times more likely to die from covid (!!!!!!!!!!!!); ages 50-64, 6 times more likely to test positive, 22 times more likely to die from covid; ages 65-79, 6 times more likely to test positive, 15 times more likely to die from covid; ages 80+, 3 times more likely to test positive, 5 times more likely to die from covid.

Does that justify a huge level of trust in the vaccine? Yes, I think it does.

And it has been announced that the vaccines wear off after a few months. Make sure to factor that in to your rants.

wrong! it has been announced that detectable anti-bodies may wear off and this is in high risk and/or older age groups. These studies show nothing about other immune system responses (like T-cells) and do not take immune memory into consideration. Scientists who study this and who have run clinical vaccine trials will tell you that they have seen many many cases where anti-body levels are 0 but as soon as the body is exposed to a familiar pathogen (familiar because of the vaccine), those anti-body levels spike very high sometimes over 10,000. This is immune memory. Still a lot to learn.

Also if it shows efficacy of 80% vs delta for example (pfizer) this will mean that older and/or immuno compromised people will have efficay below that and younger healthier people probably sitll in the 90% +

get vaccinated

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of our schools hasn't started testing yet and just sent out an email stating they are starting this week and it only includes 6th graders as those that are vaccinated aren't eligible. So, what are the demographics on these tests and are they going to provide more information. As of now, its only voluntary testing of unvaccinated. MCPS is putting a huge level of trust in the vaccine which makes no sense as you can still get covid vaccinated.

PP, please get help.

For everyone else -

According to the CDC, overall, in August, unvaccinated people were 6 times more likely to test positive and 11 times more likely to die from covid than vaccinated people. Among people aged 12-17, unvaccinated people were 10 times more likely to test positive; ages 18-29, 6 times more likely to test positive; ages 30-49, 6 times more likely to test positive, 37 times more likely to die from covid (!!!!!!!!!!!!); ages 50-64, 6 times more likely to test positive, 22 times more likely to die from covid; ages 65-79, 6 times more likely to test positive, 15 times more likely to die from covid; ages 80+, 3 times more likely to test positive, 5 times more likely to die from covid.

Does that justify a huge level of trust in the vaccine? Yes, I think it does.

And it has been announced that the vaccines wear off after a few months. Make sure to factor that in to your rants.

wrong! it has been announced that detectable anti-bodies may wear off and this is in high risk and/or older age groups. These studies show nothing about other immune system responses (like T-cells) and do not take immune memory into consideration. Scientists who study this and who have run clinical vaccine trials will tell you that they have seen many many cases where anti-body levels are 0 but as soon as the body is exposed to a familiar pathogen (familiar because of the vaccine), those anti-body levels spike very high sometimes over 10,000. This is immune memory. Still a lot to learn.

Also if it shows efficacy of 80% vs delta for example (pfizer) this will mean that older and/or immuno compromised people will have efficay below that and younger healthier people probably sitll in the 90% +

get vaccinated

Telling people to get vaccinated in MCPS is silly as most of us are. So, given that most everyone is, and we are still having positives, especially in the MS and HS level is concerning. These vaccines help with symptoms but people need to stop pretending like they fully stop covid and behavie more responsibly.

I've been on 5 anti-body medications and none have worked as planned or long term. They help some, are ok for some and many of us have failed them. What is in the studies is very different from real world results. Most studies are a few hundred people. None of the studies have shown interactions between the vaccine and medications, so what is the response if you are on an anti-body medication (or two) and these vaccines?

We can look at other countries for the actual efficacy, like Isreal who is finding they are not as effective as promised. You also have to look at things like the sample size, the risk of exposure and long term. These vaccines have only been around a year os saying they are effective long term is impossible as we need a few years to see.

We will continue to have positives in vaccinated because of behavior and the fact MCPS refuses to do any precautions or distancing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean by that. I think we'll find that annual boosters will be more than sufficient after the third shot, but even if high-risk individuals need 6-month boosters, what's the big deal?

The vaccines are what they are. It would have been nice if they provided sterilizing immunity to further reduce case counts, but at least they're highly effective at reducing severe cases. There's nothing else coming that will significantly chance the course of the COVID- as has been discussed at length, it's not going to simply go away no matter what we do. So if the vaccine isn't enough to go back to normal, I don't think anything would be. And I don't think there are many people out there that would seriously suggest we continue masks, physical distancing, quarantines, and other NPIs forever.

There might also be anti-viral medications.

However, the county case, hospitalization, and fatality data from August and September demonstrate the effectiveness of the vaccines - and that's with a 0% vaccination rate for kids under 12. Highly vaccinated places, like Montgomery County, avoided the delta disaster experienced by places with low vaccination rates.

I don't know why that PP is such a vaccine-distruster.

There is no way I'll be taking a booster. There are several medications that look promising for treatment BUT we can also help curb covid with behavior but since that will never happen hopefully these new medications will work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean by that. I think we'll find that annual boosters will be more than sufficient after the third shot, but even if high-risk individuals need 6-month boosters, what's the big deal?

The vaccines are what they are. It would have been nice if they provided sterilizing immunity to further reduce case counts, but at least they're highly effective at reducing severe cases. There's nothing else coming that will significantly chance the course of the COVID- as has been discussed at length, it's not going to simply go away no matter what we do. So if the vaccine isn't enough to go back to normal, I don't think anything would be. And I don't think there are many people out there that would seriously suggest we continue masks, physical distancing, quarantines, and other NPIs forever.

There might also be anti-viral medications.

However, the county case, hospitalization, and fatality data from August and September demonstrate the effectiveness of the vaccines - and that's with a 0% vaccination rate for kids under 12. Highly vaccinated places, like Montgomery County, avoided the delta disaster experienced by places with low vaccination rates.

I don't know why that PP is such a vaccine-distruster.

There is no way I'll be taking a booster. There are several medications that look promising for treatment BUT we can also help curb covid with behavior but since that will never happen hopefully these new medications will work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean by that. I think we'll find that annual boosters will be more than sufficient after the third shot, but even if high-risk individuals need 6-month boosters, what's the big deal?

The vaccines are what they are. It would have been nice if they provided sterilizing immunity to further reduce case counts, but at least they're highly effective at reducing severe cases. There's nothing else coming that will significantly chance the course of the COVID- as has been discussed at length, it's not going to simply go away no matter what we do. So if the vaccine isn't enough to go back to normal, I don't think anything would be. And I don't think there are many people out there that would seriously suggest we continue masks, physical distancing, quarantines, and other NPIs forever.

There might also be anti-viral medications.

However, the county case, hospitalization, and fatality data from August and September demonstrate the effectiveness of the vaccines - and that's with a 0% vaccination rate for kids under 12. Highly vaccinated places, like Montgomery County, avoided the delta disaster experienced by places with low vaccination rates.

I don't know why that PP is such a vaccine-distruster.

There is no way I'll be taking a booster. There are several medications that look promising for treatment BUT we can also help curb covid with behavior but since that will never happen hopefully these new medications will work.

If you’re worried about Covid, why in the world wouldn’t you get a booster?

But I’m glad you recognize NPIs like masking and quarantines aren’t going to work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of our schools hasn't started testing yet and just sent out an email stating they are starting this week and it only includes 6th graders as those that are vaccinated aren't eligible. So, what are the demographics on these tests and are they going to provide more information. As of now, its only voluntary testing of unvaccinated. MCPS is putting a huge level of trust in the vaccine which makes no sense as you can still get covid vaccinated.

PP, please get help.

For everyone else -

According to the CDC, overall, in August, unvaccinated people were 6 times more likely to test positive and 11 times more likely to die from covid than vaccinated people. Among people aged 12-17, unvaccinated people were 10 times more likely to test positive; ages 18-29, 6 times more likely to test positive; ages 30-49, 6 times more likely to test positive, 37 times more likely to die from covid (!!!!!!!!!!!!); ages 50-64, 6 times more likely to test positive, 22 times more likely to die from covid; ages 65-79, 6 times more likely to test positive, 15 times more likely to die from covid; ages 80+, 3 times more likely to test positive, 5 times more likely to die from covid.

Does that justify a huge level of trust in the vaccine? Yes, I think it does.

And it has been announced that the vaccines wear off after a few months. Make sure to factor that in to your rants.

wrong! it has been announced that detectable anti-bodies may wear off and this is in high risk and/or older age groups. These studies show nothing about other immune system responses (like T-cells) and do not take immune memory into consideration. Scientists who study this and who have run clinical vaccine trials will tell you that they have seen many many cases where anti-body levels are 0 but as soon as the body is exposed to a familiar pathogen (familiar because of the vaccine), those anti-body levels spike very high sometimes over 10,000. This is immune memory. Still a lot to learn.

Also if it shows efficacy of 80% vs delta for example (pfizer) this will mean that older and/or immuno compromised people will have efficay below that and younger healthier people probably sitll in the 90% +

get vaccinated

Telling people to get vaccinated in MCPS is silly as most of us are. So, given that most everyone is, and we are still having positives, especially in the MS and HS level is concerning. These vaccines help with symptoms but people need to stop pretending like they fully stop covid and behavie more responsibly.

I've been on 5 anti-body medications and none have worked as planned or long term. They help some, are ok for some and many of us have failed them. What is in the studies is very different from real world results. Most studies are a few hundred people. None of the studies have shown interactions between the vaccine and medications, so what is the response if you are on an anti-body medication (or two) and these vaccines?

We can look at other countries for the actual efficacy, like Isreal who is finding they are not as effective as promised. You also have to look at things like the sample size, the risk of exposure and long term. These vaccines have only been around a year os saying they are effective long term is impossible as we need a few years to see.

We will continue to have positives in vaccinated because of behavior and the fact MCPS refuses to do any precautions or distancing.

Honeycakes, anti-body medications, as you so adorably call them, work against a specific immune inflammatory response. They have nothing to do with mRNA vaccines. MRNA vaccines have been studied in thousands of patients, and Israel is a proof of their success. Their delta wave did NOT rise to the same death rate as any previous wave. Their deaths and hospitalizations were driven by unvaccinated, Delta hit them when only 56% of the eligible population was vaccinated. The fact that their death and hospitalization rate never went through the roof is proof of vaccine efficacy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean by that. I think we'll find that annual boosters will be more than sufficient after the third shot, but even if high-risk individuals need 6-month boosters, what's the big deal?

The vaccines are what they are. It would have been nice if they provided sterilizing immunity to further reduce case counts, but at least they're highly effective at reducing severe cases. There's nothing else coming that will significantly chance the course of the COVID- as has been discussed at length, it's not going to simply go away no matter what we do. So if the vaccine isn't enough to go back to normal, I don't think anything would be. And I don't think there are many people out there that would seriously suggest we continue masks, physical distancing, quarantines, and other NPIs forever.

There might also be anti-viral medications.

However, the county case, hospitalization, and fatality data from August and September demonstrate the effectiveness of the vaccines - and that's with a 0% vaccination rate for kids under 12. Highly vaccinated places, like Montgomery County, avoided the delta disaster experienced by places with low vaccination rates.

I don't know why that PP is such a vaccine-distruster.

There is no way I'll be taking a booster. There are several medications that look promising for treatment BUT we can also help curb covid with behavior but since that will never happen hopefully these new medications will work.

If you’re worried about Covid, why in the world wouldn’t you get a booster?

But I’m glad you recognize NPIs like masking and quarantines aren’t going to work.

Because I was very sick for several months after the second shot. Neither of my two neurologists or primary care would authorize it for me even if I wanted it nor would the clinic give it to me as its in my medical records about the reactions. It was a mistake taking the shot in the first place but I got pushed into it by my spouse who pushed the clinic into giving to to me despite their concerns.

Masking and quarantines don't work BECAUSE people refuse to follow them. They have worked very well in other countries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of our schools hasn't started testing yet and just sent out an email stating they are starting this week and it only includes 6th graders as those that are vaccinated aren't eligible. So, what are the demographics on these tests and are they going to provide more information. As of now, its only voluntary testing of unvaccinated. MCPS is putting a huge level of trust in the vaccine which makes no sense as you can still get covid vaccinated.

PP, please get help.

For everyone else -

According to the CDC, overall, in August, unvaccinated people were 6 times more likely to test positive and 11 times more likely to die from covid than vaccinated people. Among people aged 12-17, unvaccinated people were 10 times more likely to test positive; ages 18-29, 6 times more likely to test positive; ages 30-49, 6 times more likely to test positive, 37 times more likely to die from covid (!!!!!!!!!!!!); ages 50-64, 6 times more likely to test positive, 22 times more likely to die from covid; ages 65-79, 6 times more likely to test positive, 15 times more likely to die from covid; ages 80+, 3 times more likely to test positive, 5 times more likely to die from covid.

Does that justify a huge level of trust in the vaccine? Yes, I think it does.

And it has been announced that the vaccines wear off after a few months. Make sure to factor that in to your rants.

wrong! it has been announced that detectable anti-bodies may wear off and this is in high risk and/or older age groups. These studies show nothing about other immune system responses (like T-cells) and do not take immune memory into consideration. Scientists who study this and who have run clinical vaccine trials will tell you that they have seen many many cases where anti-body levels are 0 but as soon as the body is exposed to a familiar pathogen (familiar because of the vaccine), those anti-body levels spike very high sometimes over 10,000. This is immune memory. Still a lot to learn.

Also if it shows efficacy of 80% vs delta for example (pfizer) this will mean that older and/or immuno compromised people will have efficay below that and younger healthier people probably sitll in the 90% +

get vaccinated

Telling people to get vaccinated in MCPS is silly as most of us are. So, given that most everyone is, and we are still having positives, especially in the MS and HS level is concerning. These vaccines help with symptoms but people need to stop pretending like they fully stop covid and behavie more responsibly.

I've been on 5 anti-body medications and none have worked as planned or long term. They help some, are ok for some and many of us have failed them. What is in the studies is very different from real world results. Most studies are a few hundred people. None of the studies have shown interactions between the vaccine and medications, so what is the response if you are on an anti-body medication (or two) and these vaccines?

We can look at other countries for the actual efficacy, like Isreal who is finding they are not as effective as promised. You also have to look at things like the sample size, the risk of exposure and long term. These vaccines have only been around a year os saying they are effective long term is impossible as we need a few years to see.

We will continue to have positives in vaccinated because of behavior and the fact MCPS refuses to do any precautions or distancing.

Honeycakes, anti-body medications, as you so adorably call them, work against a specific immune inflammatory response. They have nothing to do with mRNA vaccines. MRNA vaccines have been studied in thousands of patients, and Israel is a proof of their success. Their delta wave did NOT rise to the same death rate as any previous wave. Their deaths and hospitalizations were driven by unvaccinated, Delta hit them when only 56% of the eligible population was vaccinated. The fact that their death and hospitalization rate never went through the roof is proof of vaccine efficacy.

This vaccine has only been in use a year. Yes, they help, but solely relying on them isn't working as vaccinated are still getting sick. For some of us its not just about death and hospitalizations. And, these vaccines have not been tested with some medications and some of us are having bad reactions. Great you didn't and you don't need these medications but some of us do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean by that. I think we'll find that annual boosters will be more than sufficient after the third shot, but even if high-risk individuals need 6-month boosters, what's the big deal?

The vaccines are what they are. It would have been nice if they provided sterilizing immunity to further reduce case counts, but at least they're highly effective at reducing severe cases. There's nothing else coming that will significantly chance the course of the COVID- as has been discussed at length, it's not going to simply go away no matter what we do. So if the vaccine isn't enough to go back to normal, I don't think anything would be. And I don't think there are many people out there that would seriously suggest we continue masks, physical distancing, quarantines, and other NPIs forever.

There might also be anti-viral medications.

However, the county case, hospitalization, and fatality data from August and September demonstrate the effectiveness of the vaccines - and that's with a 0% vaccination rate for kids under 12. Highly vaccinated places, like Montgomery County, avoided the delta disaster experienced by places with low vaccination rates.

I don't know why that PP is such a vaccine-distruster.

There is no way I'll be taking a booster. There are several medications that look promising for treatment BUT we can also help curb covid with behavior but since that will never happen hopefully these new medications will work.

If you’re worried about Covid, why in the world wouldn’t you get a booster?

But I’m glad you recognize NPIs like masking and quarantines aren’t going to work.

Because I was very sick for several months after the second shot. Neither of my two neurologists or primary care would authorize it for me even if I wanted it nor would the clinic give it to me as its in my medical records about the reactions. It was a mistake taking the shot in the first place but I got pushed into it by my spouse who pushed the clinic into giving to to me despite their concerns.

Masking and quarantines don't work BECAUSE people refuse to follow them. They have worked very well in other countries.

What an interesting combination of Covid hysteria and antivax sentiment.

Regardless of the reasons masking/quarantines/etc. don't work, you seem to acknowledge they won't. So what's your end game given that Covid isn't going away? Antiviral treatments with even more serious side effects than the vaccines?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of our schools hasn't started testing yet and just sent out an email stating they are starting this week and it only includes 6th graders as those that are vaccinated aren't eligible. So, what are the demographics on these tests and are they going to provide more information. As of now, its only voluntary testing of unvaccinated. MCPS is putting a huge level of trust in the vaccine which makes no sense as you can still get covid vaccinated.

PP, please get help.

For everyone else -

According to the CDC, overall, in August, unvaccinated people were 6 times more likely to test positive and 11 times more likely to die from covid than vaccinated people. Among people aged 12-17, unvaccinated people were 10 times more likely to test positive; ages 18-29, 6 times more likely to test positive; ages 30-49, 6 times more likely to test positive, 37 times more likely to die from covid (!!!!!!!!!!!!); ages 50-64, 6 times more likely to test positive, 22 times more likely to die from covid; ages 65-79, 6 times more likely to test positive, 15 times more likely to die from covid; ages 80+, 3 times more likely to test positive, 5 times more likely to die from covid.

Does that justify a huge level of trust in the vaccine? Yes, I think it does.

And it has been announced that the vaccines wear off after a few months. Make sure to factor that in to your rants.

wrong! it has been announced that detectable anti-bodies may wear off and this is in high risk and/or older age groups. These studies show nothing about other immune system responses (like T-cells) and do not take immune memory into consideration. Scientists who study this and who have run clinical vaccine trials will tell you that they have seen many many cases where anti-body levels are 0 but as soon as the body is exposed to a familiar pathogen (familiar because of the vaccine), those anti-body levels spike very high sometimes over 10,000. This is immune memory. Still a lot to learn.

Also if it shows efficacy of 80% vs delta for example (pfizer) this will mean that older and/or immuno compromised people will have efficay below that and younger healthier people probably sitll in the 90% +

get vaccinated

Telling people to get vaccinated in MCPS is silly as most of us are. So, given that most everyone is, and we are still having positives, especially in the MS and HS level is concerning. These vaccines help with symptoms but people need to stop pretending like they fully stop covid and behavie more responsibly.

I've been on 5 anti-body medications and none have worked as planned or long term. They help some, are ok for some and many of us have failed them. What is in the studies is very different from real world results. Most studies are a few hundred people. None of the studies have shown interactions between the vaccine and medications, so what is the response if you are on an anti-body medication (or two) and these vaccines?

We can look at other countries for the actual efficacy, like Isreal who is finding they are not as effective as promised. You also have to look at things like the sample size, the risk of exposure and long term. These vaccines have only been around a year os saying they are effective long term is impossible as we need a few years to see.

We will continue to have positives in vaccinated because of behavior and the fact MCPS refuses to do any precautions or distancing.

Covid is spreading in the county because MCPS refuses to do distancing? What is your plan for distancing in schools anyway? The reality is that you sound like an edge case. Policy is not going to be made for edge cases. You have the option to stay home and wait it out for the next several years.

[Anonymous]

Question about the MCPS covid dashboard. It says my son's high school has only had one case of covid. But I've gotten three of those notification letters from the principal since school started. Why don't those numbers line up?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of our schools hasn't started testing yet and just sent out an email stating they are starting this week and it only includes 6th graders as those that are vaccinated aren't eligible. So, what are the demographics on these tests and are they going to provide more information. As of now, its only voluntary testing of unvaccinated. MCPS is putting a huge level of trust in the vaccine which makes no sense as you can still get covid vaccinated.

PP, please get help.

For everyone else -

According to the CDC, overall, in August, unvaccinated people were 6 times more likely to test positive and 11 times more likely to die from covid than vaccinated people. Among people aged 12-17, unvaccinated people were 10 times more likely to test positive; ages 18-29, 6 times more likely to test positive; ages 30-49, 6 times more likely to test positive, 37 times more likely to die from covid (!!!!!!!!!!!!); ages 50-64, 6 times more likely to test positive, 22 times more likely to die from covid; ages 65-79, 6 times more likely to test positive, 15 times more likely to die from covid; ages 80+, 3 times more likely to test positive, 5 times more likely to die from covid.

Does that justify a huge level of trust in the vaccine? Yes, I think it does.

And it has been announced that the vaccines wear off after a few months. Make sure to factor that in to your rants.

wrong! it has been announced that detectable anti-bodies may wear off and this is in high risk and/or older age groups. These studies show nothing about other immune system responses (like T-cells) and do not take immune memory into consideration. Scientists who study this and who have run clinical vaccine trials will tell you that they have seen many many cases where anti-body levels are 0 but as soon as the body is exposed to a familiar pathogen (familiar because of the vaccine), those anti-body levels spike very high sometimes over 10,000. This is immune memory. Still a lot to learn.

Also if it shows efficacy of 80% vs delta for example (pfizer) this will mean that older and/or immuno compromised people will have efficay below that and younger healthier people probably sitll in the 90% +

get vaccinated

Telling people to get vaccinated in MCPS is silly as most of us are. So, given that most everyone is, and we are still having positives, especially in the MS and HS level is concerning. These vaccines help with symptoms but people need to stop pretending like they fully stop covid and behavie more responsibly.

I've been on 5 anti-body medications and none have worked as planned or long term. They help some, are ok for some and many of us have failed them. What is in the studies is very different from real world results. Most studies are a few hundred people. None of the studies have shown interactions between the vaccine and medications, so what is the response if you are on an anti-body medication (or two) and these vaccines?

We can look at other countries for the actual efficacy, like Isreal who is finding they are not as effective as promised. You also have to look at things like the sample size, the risk of exposure and long term. These vaccines have only been around a year os saying they are effective long term is impossible as we need a few years to see.

We will continue to have positives in vaccinated because of behavior and the fact MCPS refuses to do any precautions or distancing.

Honeycakes, anti-body medications, as you so adorably call them, work against a specific immune inflammatory response. They have nothing to do with mRNA vaccines. MRNA vaccines have been studied in thousands of patients, and Israel is a proof of their success. Their delta wave did NOT rise to the same death rate as any previous wave. Their deaths and hospitalizations were driven by unvaccinated, Delta hit them when only 56% of the eligible population was vaccinated. The fact that their death and hospitalization rate never went through the roof is proof of vaccine efficacy.

This vaccine has only been in use a year. Yes, they help, but solely relying on them isn't working as vaccinated are still getting sick. For some of us its not just about death and hospitalizations. And, these vaccines have not been tested with some medications and some of us are having bad reactions. Great you didn't and you don't need these medications but some of us do.

You will have to continue to isolate and your family. The county, MCPS and the state are not going to adopt the policies you want for a minority of people. I assume you know that so not sure why you waste your time posting on here arguing with anonymous people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Question about the MCPS covid dashboard. It says my son's high school has only had one case of covid. But I've gotten three of those notification letters from the principal since school started. Why don't those numbers line up?

Were any of those letters during the time where symptoms were presumptive positives?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean by that. I think we'll find that annual boosters will be more than sufficient after the third shot, but even if high-risk individuals need 6-month boosters, what's the big deal?

The vaccines are what they are. It would have been nice if they provided sterilizing immunity to further reduce case counts, but at least they're highly effective at reducing severe cases. There's nothing else coming that will significantly chance the course of the COVID- as has been discussed at length, it's not going to simply go away no matter what we do. So if the vaccine isn't enough to go back to normal, I don't think anything would be. And I don't think there are many people out there that would seriously suggest we continue masks, physical distancing, quarantines, and other NPIs forever.

There might also be anti-viral medications.

However, the county case, hospitalization, and fatality data from August and September demonstrate the effectiveness of the vaccines - and that's with a 0% vaccination rate for kids under 12. Highly vaccinated places, like Montgomery County, avoided the delta disaster experienced by places with low vaccination rates.

I don't know why that PP is such a vaccine-distruster.

There is no way I'll be taking a booster. There are several medications that look promising for treatment BUT we can also help curb covid with behavior but since that will never happen hopefully these new medications will work.

If you’re worried about Covid, why in the world wouldn’t you get a booster?

But I’m glad you recognize NPIs like masking and quarantines aren’t going to work.

Because I was very sick for several months after the second shot. Neither of my two neurologists or primary care would authorize it for me even if I wanted it nor would the clinic give it to me as its in my medical records about the reactions. It was a mistake taking the shot in the first place but I got pushed into it by my spouse who pushed the clinic into giving to to me despite their concerns.

Masking and quarantines don't work BECAUSE people refuse to follow them. They have worked very well in other countries.

If you simply said you had a reaction, then I would have mostly believed you.

But taking the next step to saying your doctors told you not to get vaccinated over some sort of neurological condition strains credibility. Either you’re lying about that, or you’re not seeing legitimate doctors. There are no neurological conditions that are contraindications to Covid vaccination. There are some drugs/treatments they might want to time with Covid vaccination. And they might want to more closely monitor for reactions. But all of the medical associations and advocacy groups agree the benefits greatly outweigh the risks, even in patients with neurological conditions.

That being said, regardless of whether you had a physiological or psychological reaction to the vaccine, I can understand why you're now freaking out. Public policy isn't made based on edge bases, and we're very close to dropping all Covid mitigations because the vast majority of people will soon be as protected as they're ever going to get based on vaccination or infection. We're not going to keep masking requirements, social distancing/capacity restrictions, or quarantine procedures for healthy kids forever.