Skinny is the new moral/hard working and all other kind of superiority?

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t even with the “just get up at 430 am” PP. are you kidding me?

The point is to dedicate time to exercise. Whether that is 4:30am, 6:00am, 8:00pm. Everyone can make 30-60 min available to exercise is they want to make it a priority

+1 the excuses are tiresome. Always society’s fault, nothing to do with one’s own hard work and choices. Except we all know someone who’s lost significant weight, which absolutely requires hard work and discipline. Anyone think those people don’t deserve some applause? Really?

Except as usual, thin people on dcum do not reply to the topic in question. Which has nothing to do with excuses or taking the time. It is about thin people and women in particular on dcum, shaming other people, women in particular, for being overweight and putting yourselves on a pedestal.
Page after page has been overtaken by thin pps telling us how they stay thin. Which has absolutely nothing to do with the topic.

If you don’t see how those two topics are interrelated, no one can help you.

The lack of logic in pp’s recurring posts is bizarre. People who try to explain hard work/discipline is positively judged (duh) and therefore op’s original point about judgment is correct are just beating their heads against a wall with this one, who habitually divorces honesty and common sense from “niceness.”

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I don’t think you can assume the people posting negatively about overweight people are thin. The people I know who are most judgmental of overweight women are overweight men, for instance. I don’t know very many women who would judge another woman for being overweight. Some, but not many, and they are miserable people anyway.

Also, one thing I’ve noticed is that people are most likely to criticize someone’s weight if they already don’t like them. I think it’s an easy target. I’ve heard progressive people who generally don’t make fun of the way other people look, but will call Trump fat or say Kellyanne Conway has an eating disorder or Ivanka has had lots of plastic surgery. This indicates that a lot of people (of all weights) harbor those prejudices under the surface, but generally don’t feel comfortable expressing them.

Fat phobia is far from the purview of just thin people. It’s a society-wide issue.

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I think if you learn how to cook healthy delicious vegetarian foods that are fresh and organic then you will see a marked improvement in your family's health. It is bad enough that adults are overweight but when their kids become overweight and unhealthy, it is time to become a responsible adult and concerned darent. Determine the correct portion size and give your family healthy fillers like fruits and veggies with minimal processing so that they are not hungry. You will see that doing this will not only prioritize the health of your family but the weight will melt off on everyone. The key is to make health a priority and a daily routine. You can do this!

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I have a neighbor who is a very large woman but she has so much stamina. She can work like an ox and is always active in and around her house. If you are big then you should at least be strong and have lots of stamina. Strong is beautiful.

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Anonymous wrote:The answer to OP's title is "yes" Though it's not new. Bring overweight hasn't been beautiful or virtuous in the west in since what, late 1800s?

Things that are difficult to achieve become more desirable. In our culture, having the time and money to eat well and exercise is difficult. Therefore being thin and fit is a luxury that is closely associated with being wealthy, aka successful. As with actual wealth, people like to play up the discipline and hard work piece while conveniently omitting the things that give them space to put in that work or actually see success as a result of it.

While the idea of self denial being moral (especially for women) is built into this country's cultural roots, IMO it's not as powerful as people simply wanting to believe that they've acheived whatever they have through hard work.

So well said.

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People have different body types. Who cares. Lets celebrate all bodies sizes and shapes.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a neighbor who is a very large woman but she has so much stamina. She can work like an ox and is always active in and around her house. If you are big then you should at least be strong and have lots of stamina. Strong is beautiful.

Strong absolutely is beautiful, regardless of size. Sounds like she is very active, which is a critical piece of good health.

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^^maybe her diet could be improved but that's her business.

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Not only is it a moral superiority, but it is also a way to claim to be a better mom, better cook, better lover, better worker,

It never ends, mom and women shaming by other women. on dcum..

You can eat anything you want in moderation if you are active. Most people who are overweight are not active and, especially, do not practice portion control.
There definitely is a feeling that overweight or obese people lack willpower, self control and are not hard working. So if you extrapolate, then yes, thin people are hard working and determined. And it does take a lot of perseverance and dedication to maintain a healthy body and work out. It's easy to be fat and lazy.
Choosing to buy healthy foods and exercising a little (20-30 min) every day isn’t that hard. If you’re not doing either of these things you’re not even TRYING. In which case keep eating your pizza and ice cream but own your choices the next time you rant.
Being fat hasn't been in except for the fatties trying to do it now cause they are lazy, sorry Adele left you.
[u]These are the things fat people don’t understand. I’ve been a trainer for almost 30 years. I’ve heard every excuse in the world. They are all just that…excuses.
A person who sits on her ass all day shouldn’t eat two English Muffins with butter for breakfast. Definitely not trying to be sanctimonious. I’ve been a trainer for 29 years. I’m passionate about health and wellness.[/u]
Healthy mind lives in a healthy body. A food addict is only concerned about the next meal. Their thoughts are only🍕🍔🍟🌭🍿🥓🥨🥯🥐🍗🍗🥩🥫🧀

No moral judgment at all, none.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t even with the “just get up at 430 am” PP. are you kidding me?

My favorite is the single mom who would wake up at 5 AM to go running 6 miles. She probably left the kids alone in the house before sunrise, sleeping. Best mom ever.

Right. PP is the Horatio Alger of weight loss.

Because we couldn’t advocate for shorter work weeks or better pay to lessen stress and provide more free time. We couldn’t tax junk food. No way. That would be so unfair.

You don't want to be just fat, but poor too?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The answer to OP's title is "yes" Though it's not new. Bring overweight hasn't been beautiful or virtuous in the west in since what, late 1800s?

Things that are difficult to achieve become more desirable. In our culture, having the time and money to eat well and exercise is difficult. Therefore being thin and fit is a luxury that is closely associated with being wealthy, aka successful. As with actual wealth, people like to play up the discipline and hard work piece while conveniently omitting the things that give them space to put in that work or actually see success as a result of it.

While the idea of self denial being moral (especially for women) is built into this country's cultural roots, IMO it's not as powerful as people simply wanting to believe that they've acheived whatever they have through hard work.

So well said.

+1

I eat well and exercise for 1-2 hours a day and I can still see that this is the case.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The answer to OP's title is "yes" Though it's not new. Bring overweight hasn't been beautiful or virtuous in the west in since what, late 1800s?

Things that are difficult to achieve become more desirable. In our culture, having the time and money to eat well and exercise is difficult. Therefore being thin and fit is a luxury that is closely associated with being wealthy, aka successful. As with actual wealth, people like to play up the discipline and hard work piece while conveniently omitting the things that give them space to put in that work or actually see success as a result of it.

While the idea of self denial being moral (especially for women) is built into this country's cultural roots, IMO it's not as powerful as people simply wanting to believe that they've acheived whatever they have through hard work.

So well said.

+1

I eat well and exercise for 1-2 hours a day and I can still see that this is the case.

Indeed, you and pps above are the rare few able to discern what many other pps can't or won't. Well said by the pp above, well indeed!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answer to OP's title is "yes" Though it's not new. Bring overweight hasn't been beautiful or virtuous in the west in since what, late 1800s?

Things that are difficult to achieve become more desirable. In our culture, having the time and money to eat well and exercise is difficult. Therefore being thin and fit is a luxury that is closely associated with being wealthy, aka successful. As with actual wealth, people like to play up the discipline and hard work piece while conveniently omitting the things that give them space to put in that work or actually see success as a result of it.

While the idea of self denial being moral (especially for women) is built into this country's cultural roots, IMO it's not as powerful as people simply wanting to believe that they've acheived whatever they have through hard work.

So well said.

+1

I eat well and exercise for 1-2 hours a day and I can still see that this is the case.

Indeed, you and pps above are the rare few able to discern what many other pps can't or won't. Well said by the pp above, well indeed!

Just eat less. It takes zero extra effort, zero extra time, and actually will save you money. You don’t need some special privilege to eat less, but you do actually need discipline.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answer to OP's title is "yes" Though it's not new. Bring overweight hasn't been beautiful or virtuous in the west in since what, late 1800s?

Things that are difficult to achieve become more desirable. In our culture, having the time and money to eat well and exercise is difficult. Therefore being thin and fit is a luxury that is closely associated with being wealthy, aka successful. As with actual wealth, people like to play up the discipline and hard work piece while conveniently omitting the things that give them space to put in that work or actually see success as a result of it.

While the idea of self denial being moral (especially for women) is built into this country's cultural roots, IMO it's not as powerful as people simply wanting to believe that they've acheived whatever they have through hard work.

So well said.

+1

I eat well and exercise for 1-2 hours a day and I can still see that this is the case.

Indeed, you and pps above are the rare few able to discern what many other pps can't or won't. Well said by the pp above, well indeed!

Just eat less. It takes zero extra effort, zero extra time, and actually will save you money. You don’t need some special privilege to eat less, but you do actually need discipline.

This. Not fun, but it is far more consequential to weight than exercise, which does require a meaningful time commitment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The answer to OP's title is "yes" Though it's not new. Bring overweight hasn't been beautiful or virtuous in the west in since what, late 1800s?

Things that are difficult to achieve become more desirable. In our culture, having the time and money to eat well and exercise is difficult. Therefore being thin and fit is a luxury that is closely associated with being wealthy, aka successful. As with actual wealth, people like to play up the discipline and hard work piece while conveniently omitting the things that give them space to put in that work or actually see success as a result of it.

While the idea of self denial being moral (especially for women) is built into this country's cultural roots, IMO it's not as powerful as people simply wanting to believe that they've acheived whatever they have through hard work.

So well said.

+1

I eat well and exercise for 1-2 hours a day and I can still see that this is the case.

Indeed, you and pps above are the rare few able to discern what many other pps can't or won't. Well said by the pp above, well indeed!

Just eat less. It takes zero extra effort, zero extra time, and actually will save you money. You don’t need some special privilege to eat less, but you do actually need discipline.

Please go away, you have no clue what the thread not pp above is talking about.