US News 2020 rankings

[Anonymous]

you are commenting on a very old post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

I know this thread is old, but I like this breakdown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

I know this thread is old, but I like this breakdown.

I turned down a 1B, two 2As and my safety 3A to attend a 1A, but it's still an arbitrary exercise in foolishness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

I know this thread is old, but I like this breakdown.

I turned down a 1B, two 2As and my safety 3A to attend a 1A, but it's still an arbitrary exercise in foolishness.

Should Pomona be 2A with Amherst and Williams. It is usually in there with the other two in most conversations.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

I know this thread is old, but I like this breakdown.

What does the tiering mean? Is it selectivity? Prestige? Educational quality? Whether a person with the same stats and same major going to a different tier would really have different life experiences and outcomes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

I know this thread is old, but I like this breakdown.

I turned down a 1B, two 2As and my safety 3A to attend a 1A, but it's still an arbitrary exercise in foolishness.

Should Pomona be 2A with Amherst and Williams. It is usually in there with the other two in most conversations.

I thought people usually included Swarthmore with Williams and Amherst. Personally I agree with this grouping. It seems well thought out, although 2A and 2B are more debatable than the others. I would just include WashU and Carnegie Mellon in 2B; Georgia Tech in 3A, then Case Western in 3B to complete it.

[Anonymous]

I stopped reading at page 20. Got some good nuggets but the bickering was intolerable..

Did anyone discuss outcome rankings as in salary?

I'm looking to intersect teaching rankings and salary rankings for a couple of domains as well as overall (just in case DC decides to switch).

My belief is that the point of an undergrad university is to teach (I know that's hard to believe) which would automatically attract top employers because, well, the kids have been taught well. Does US news rank based on salary outcome as well?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I stopped reading at page 20. Got some good nuggets but the bickering was intolerable..

Did anyone discuss outcome rankings as in salary?

I'm looking to intersect teaching rankings and salary rankings for a couple of domains as well as overall (just in case DC decides to switch).

My belief is that the point of an undergrad university is to teach (I know that's hard to believe) which would automatically attract top employers because, well, the kids have been taught well. Does US news rank based on salary outcome as well?

. you are commenting in a very old thread.much has changed I. College admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Undergraduate Tiers
1A) Harvard, Stanford, MIT, Yale, Princeton
1B) Columbia, Penn, Duke, Chicago, Caltech

2A) Northwestern, Brown, Dartmouth, Williams, Amherst
2B) Rice, Cornell, Pomona, Vanderbilt, Georgetown, Cal, Notre Dame, Emory, Swarthmore, UCLA, Wellesley

3A) Michigan, NYU, USC, UVA, Tufts, Middlebury, Barnard
3B)UNC, Boston College, W&M, Wake, W&L, Davidson

Tier 2A is very debatable is there are a lot of great schools that could go there.

Good stuff.

Thank you, I was trying my best to be fair but accurate of what people think. I also work for a top pharmaceutical company FYI.

OMG haha. I'm a tenured professor at a research 1 institution, and I think your ranking is a joke.

Good for you, there are over 100 schools considered Research 1 institutions. The vast majority of them are not considered prestigiuos, especially at the undergrad level.

+ 1. And since when did a tenured professor become an authority on school rankings? Most of you have your heads up your a**es and it's your TAs that do most of the work anyways while you research cr*p that no one cares about!

[Anonymous]

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*gap*
- Rest of the top 15. (Order doesn't matter.)

Colleges outside of the top 15 or so really don't matter or impress anyone. You think anyone blindly gives two s***s you went to WashU or Georgetown or UVA or Michigan? lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:- H
- SYPM
*gap*
- Rest of the top 15. (Order doesn't matter.)

Colleges outside of the top 15 or so really don't matter or impress anyone. You think anyone blindly gives two s***s you went to WashU or Georgetown or UVA or Michigan? lol

you think there's a difference between Notre Dame and Georgetown? That's very Daft of you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:- H
- SYPM
*gap*
- Rest of the top 15. (Order doesn't matter.)

Colleges outside of the top 15 or so really don't matter or impress anyone. You think anyone blindly gives two s***s you went to WashU or Georgetown or UVA or Michigan? lol

In terms of "impressing" people, you think people give a shit if you went to Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern? Even Penn, Johns Hopkins and Duke are questionable outside of certain majors - Wharton for Penn, pre-med for Hopkins as long as the kid makes it into med school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:- H
- SYPM
*gap*
- Rest of the top 15. (Order doesn't matter.)

Colleges outside of the top 15 or so really don't matter or impress anyone. You think anyone blindly gives two s***s you went to WashU or Georgetown or UVA or Michigan? lol

you think there's a difference between Notre Dame and Georgetown? That's very Daft of you.

That’s not how to use the word daft.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:- H
- SYPM
*gap*
- Rest of the top 15. (Order doesn't matter.)

Colleges outside of the top 15 or so really don't matter or impress anyone. You think anyone blindly gives two s***s you went to WashU or Georgetown or UVA or Michigan? lol

you think there's a difference between Notre Dame and Georgetown? That's very Daft of you.

Is Notre Dame top 15? I didn't know that. But sure, mucho cachet with Catholics especially (over 70M Catholics in US). Closest thing to an Ivy west of Philly -- e.g. tightknit, live on campus all four years, no frats, traditions, vibe.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:- H
- SYPM
*gap*
- Rest of the top 15. (Order doesn't matter.)

Colleges outside of the top 15 or so really don't matter or impress anyone. You think anyone blindly gives two s***s you went to WashU or Georgetown or UVA or Michigan? lol

In terms of "impressing" people, you think people give a shit if you went to Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, or Northwestern? Even Penn, Johns Hopkins and Duke are questionable outside of certain majors - Wharton for Penn, pre-med for Hopkins as long as the kid makes it into med school

hence use of "*gap*"