Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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His astroturfing campaign against her is certainly, er, widespread, no?

Shocking. https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/1629cc34e562e325/4410b1d9-full.pdf

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Sounds like they both behaved in a distasteful manner. Blake could've sued back then but separated herself and tried to finish the press tour. I don't like how she did it by promoting her own alcohol, but it could be was disillusioned from what had happened and wanted to end on a higher note. This only came out because extras on set said Justin and Blake hated each other. I think Justin got scared and hired the PR team who are HORRID HORRID people.

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Anonymous wrote:His astroturfing campaign against her is certainly, er, widespread, no?

Shocking. https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/1629cc34e562e325/4410b1d9-full.pdf

How is running an highly effective PR campaign illegal though? We can discuss how it’s a shitty way to earn a living, how Baldoni is a douche and sex creep… but what did the PR people actually say about her that was untrue? And how can she prove that this is what led to revenue loss when her product is not good, her hair looks bad, plus whatever videos of her being an ass are just public and visible to all and not made up or obtained illegally?

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Anonymous wrote:Read her lawsuit. She was sexually harassed by Baldoni and a producer on set. I have had sexual harassment training at work, and their behavior was classic sexual harassment. Good for Blake for standing up for herself and not putting up with the unprofessional behavior of Baldoni and his producer.

Agree. I’m glad she’s standing up.

That said, she and Ryan caused some of her PR problems. They way overexposed themselves. And she’s done some really bad interviews where she does seem tone deaf and clueless- nothing to do with the promotion of the film which sounds like was Sonys fault - they told the cast to make it light. Just bad interviews.

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Anonymous wrote:His astroturfing campaign against her is certainly, er, widespread, no?

Shocking. https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/1629cc34e562e325/4410b1d9-full.pdf

How is running an highly effective PR campaign illegal though? We can discuss how it’s a shitty way to earn a living, how Baldoni is a douche and sex creep… but what did the PR people actually say about her that was untrue? And how can she prove that this is what led to revenue loss when her product is not good, her hair looks bad, plus whatever videos of her being an ass are just public and visible to all and not made up or obtained illegally?

Is it legal to sexually harass people?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:His astroturfing campaign against her is certainly, er, widespread, no?

Shocking. https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/1629cc34e562e325/4410b1d9-full.pdf

How is running an highly effective PR campaign illegal though? We can discuss how it’s a shitty way to earn a living, how Baldoni is a douche and sex creep… but what did the PR people actually say about her that was untrue? And how can she prove that this is what led to revenue loss when her product is not good, her hair looks bad, plus whatever videos of her being an ass are just public and visible to all and not made up or obtained illegally?

Because it's retaliation. Blake may have more money but Justin and his studio were still her employer.

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Anonymous wrote:His astroturfing campaign against her is certainly, er, widespread, no?

Shocking. https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/1629cc34e562e325/4410b1d9-full.pdf

How is running an highly effective PR campaign illegal though? We can discuss how it’s a shitty way to earn a living, how Baldoni is a douche and sex creep… but what did the PR people actually say about her that was untrue? And how can she prove that this is what led to revenue loss when her product is not good, her hair looks bad, plus whatever videos of her being an ass are just public and visible to all and not made up or obtained illegally?

Is it legal to sexually harass people?

Of course not, but the lawsuit is against the PR people.

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Anonymous wrote:I wonder if she is doing this because she has deep pockets to sue and she knows the accused does not have deep pockets and she assumes he will settle to avoid lawsuit costs and get an NDA to make her look innocent. Wonder if her alcohol and product launches are not doing well and she has been advised this route won’t make her look bad, they think it will make her look sympathetic and her side projects and acting can return to previous levels. What we have seen is lots of sympathy for women who have been SA. We also see other women coming forward. So let’s see if other women come forward. Am even more surprised she did not talk about the importance of the message of the movie if what she says happened on the film happened when it was being promoted.

It's a little odd to say "she is doing this" when he is the one who went after her. He didn't seem too worried about her deep pockets when he launched his campaign. Doesn't seem to fit the narrative of David going after Goliath.

She is the powerful, connected and wealthy billionaire here. It doesn’t fit the usual pattern of sexual harassment. Why not get the guy fired immediately at filming time? He certainly should have been if this is all true.

Justin is not without power. He is obviously less known than Blake and Ryan, but he runs a pretty successful production company. He’s hardly a nobody. This could get bad for both of them.

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Anonymous wrote:His astroturfing campaign against her is certainly, er, widespread, no?

Shocking. https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/1629cc34e562e325/4410b1d9-full.pdf

How is running an highly effective PR campaign illegal though? We can discuss how it’s a shitty way to earn a living, how Baldoni is a douche and sex creep… but what did the PR people actually say about her that was untrue? And how can she prove that this is what led to revenue loss when her product is not good, her hair looks bad, plus whatever videos of her being an ass are just public and visible to all and not made up or obtained illegally?

I’m in Blake’s side in terms of the sexual harassment stuff, but I knew the second I heard about her hair care line it was going to fail. The celebrity products that work are the ones where the celebs put their heart and soul into it, like goop, Jennifer Aniston‘s hair stuff, Scarlett Johansson skin care.

Blake’s alcohol and other drink line… The market is way oversaturated at this point. And her problem is she treats everything like a side hustle and goes onto the next thing. Did she really blame him for the demise of these products?

She should have just signed a $5 million deal with Pantene or something and called it a day. Been an ambassador for the brand for a couple years and moved on. She didn’t need to run her own line.

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like the PR firm the studio and Baldoni are still working - in this thread - to trash Blake.

gift link to ny times detailing how they used MSM and social media
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/12/21/business/media/blake-lively-justin-baldoni-it-ends-with-us.html?unlocked_article_code=1.jE4.jera.-qpl7PvyaFuO&smid=url-share

It is unclear exactly how Mr. Wallace operated. There are references in emails to “social manipulation” and “proactive fan posting,” and text messages cite efforts to “boost” and “amplify” online content that was favorable to Mr. Baldoni or critical of Ms. Lively.

“We are crushing it on Reddit,” Mr. Wallace told Ms. Nathan, according to a text she sent Ms. Abel on Aug. 9.

The next day, one of Ms. Nathan’s employees texted, “We’ve started to see shift on social, due largely to Jed and his team’s efforts to shift the narrative.”

Yes, this was clear. I think she has a strong case and will prevail. He created a toxic environment on set, and after.

I eyerolled when I saw the headline but if you read the complaint it is very damning against director and his team, and also fascinating description of how media and information can be manipulated. So please read the complaint before you judge BL.

Well the it wouldn’t be much of a complaint if the lawyers didn’t have you feeling that way after reading their handiwork.
So please read all the legal documents and hear all the evidence before you judge. That is the American legal system, after all.

She’s not powerless in the industry, he’s not a big name, makes it harder for her to look truthful and sympathetic.

No, it really doesn't. That's just your bias at play. Are you always a rigid thinker?

Plaintiff’s lawyer, actually. Just offering a view from the jury consultant.

Oh ok. I guess it's ok to get your lip sucked inappropriately if you're unkind to a reporter. She deserved it?

It’s an allegation. Seems you don’t understand the US legal system.

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Anonymous wrote:Read her lawsuit. She was sexually harassed by Baldoni and a producer on set. I have had sexual harassment training at work, and their behavior was classic sexual harassment. Good for Blake for standing up for herself and not putting up with the unprofessional behavior of Baldoni and his producer.

She says.

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Anonymous wrote:His astroturfing campaign against her is certainly, er, widespread, no?

Shocking. https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/1629cc34e562e325/4410b1d9-full.pdf

How is running an highly effective PR campaign illegal though? We can discuss how it’s a shitty way to earn a living, how Baldoni is a douche and sex creep… but what did the PR people actually say about her that was untrue? And how can she prove that this is what led to revenue loss when her product is not good, her hair looks bad, plus whatever videos of her being an ass are just public and visible to all and not made up or obtained illegally?

Is it legal to sexually harass people?

Of course not, but the lawsuit is against the PR people.

Because they helped retaliate. Shes suing Justin studio as well.

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Anonymous wrote:His astroturfing campaign against her is certainly, er, widespread, no?

Shocking. https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/1629cc34e562e325/4410b1d9-full.pdf

How is running an highly effective PR campaign illegal though? We can discuss how it’s a shitty way to earn a living, how Baldoni is a douche and sex creep… but what did the PR people actually say about her that was untrue? And how can she prove that this is what led to revenue loss when her product is not good, her hair looks bad, plus whatever videos of her being an ass are just public and visible to all and not made up or obtained illegally?

Is it legal to sexually harass people?

She has pleaded a lot more than that.

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Anonymous wrote:His astroturfing campaign against her is certainly, er, widespread, no?

Shocking. https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/1629cc34e562e325/4410b1d9-full.pdf

How is running an highly effective PR campaign illegal though? We can discuss how it’s a shitty way to earn a living, how Baldoni is a douche and sex creep… but what did the PR people actually say about her that was untrue? And how can she prove that this is what led to revenue loss when her product is not good, her hair looks bad, plus whatever videos of her being an ass are just public and visible to all and not made up or obtained illegally?

Is it legal to sexually harass people?

Of course not, but the lawsuit is against the PR people.

Because they helped retaliate. Shes suing Justin studio as well.

How so though? They finished the movie, she hadn’t sued him for harassment, so retaliate against what specifically?

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Anonymous wrote:Matthew Hiltzik company strikes again

And this is why Angelina Jolie requested messages between Brad and them. I would not be surprised if they team up in the future for this. This is incredibly damaging. Very proud of Blake for this!

She cannot undo that mean interview. She was horrible to the reporter. So bratty. Also the wealth different between her and the actor/director is huge. She is the one who wants to destroy someone. She should have just let it go and work on being nicer. Beyond this actor other actors and media have said she is difficult.

So what she's rude, does that make it okay for them to strategize a system to bury her in their own words

Being mean isn’t a legal injury.

Did you even read what she's suing for

Yes, I did. I’m responding to the post above mine.

Here is a thought experiment- would she have still sued for sexual harassment if her product lines hadn’t failed.