Ohio heartbeat law

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Anonymous wrote:If a woman is already 20 or 22 weeks pregnant, she doesn't have that much longer to go all things considered.

For God's sake, abortions should not be allowed that late in the game.

The mother can hold on for another 10 or 18 weeks and then choose adoption.

You don't understand what happens when pre-eclampsia becomes eclampsia, do you?
https://rewire.news/article/2009/07/01/how-a-lateterm-abortion-saved-my-life/

Or when the twin of the already dead baby is also in the process of dying within the woman?
https://www.facebook.com/alyson.draper/posts/10209809201680871

Your inability to understand what you do not know is exactly why medical decisions must be left in the informed hands of medical providers. Not you, and not people like you.

Those are not typical abortion on demand reasons.

Actually, at the span of time you're talking about (20+ weeks) that's exactly why most women "demand" (and screw you for that word choice by the way) abortions. The vast majority of "elective" abortions take place between 6-12 weeks. When you're in 2nd, it's typically for medical reasons and in the 3rd it's ALWAYS for medical reasons.

First of all, Nancy Pelosi uses the term "abortion on demand." Also, it's certainly anecdotal, but every woman I've known who had an abortion was either an unmarried teen or a married or single woman in her 20's - 30's who did not feel she could support another child at that time.

Yes and? That's a perfectly valid reason to have one.

Nancy Pelosis context is that women should be able to have to when they want or need one. Anti-choice people use it in a way that suggests women are walking into clinics at 32 weeks "demanding" an abortion which is.not.happening.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If a woman is already 20 or 22 weeks pregnant, she doesn't have that much longer to go all things considered.

For God's sake, abortions should not be allowed that late in the game.

The mother can hold on for another 10 or 18 weeks and then choose adoption.

You don't understand what happens when pre-eclampsia becomes eclampsia, do you?
https://rewire.news/article/2009/07/01/how-a-lateterm-abortion-saved-my-life/

Or when the twin of the already dead baby is also in the process of dying within the woman?
https://www.facebook.com/alyson.draper/posts/10209809201680871

Your inability to understand what you do not know is exactly why medical decisions must be left in the informed hands of medical providers. Not you, and not people like you.

Those are not typical abortion on demand reasons.

Actually, at the span of time you're talking about (20+ weeks) that's exactly why most women "demand" (and screw you for that word choice by the way) abortions. The vast majority of "elective" abortions take place between 6-12 weeks. When you're in 2nd, it's typically for medical reasons and in the 3rd it's ALWAYS for medical reasons.

First of all, Nancy Pelosi uses the term "abortion on demand." Also, it's certainly anecdotal, but every woman I've known who had an abortion was either an unmarried teen or a married or single woman in her 20's - 30's who did not feel she could support another child at that time.

And the two women I know personally who had late term abortions were married and one was carrying a fetus that would kill her and one was carrying a fetus that wouldn't survive to delivery.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a woman is already 20 or 22 weeks pregnant, she doesn't have that much longer to go all things considered.

For God's sake, abortions should not be allowed that late in the game.

The mother can hold on for another 10 or 18 weeks and then choose adoption.

You don't understand what happens when pre-eclampsia becomes eclampsia, do you?
https://rewire.news/article/2009/07/01/how-a-lateterm-abortion-saved-my-life/

Or when the twin of the already dead baby is also in the process of dying within the woman?
https://www.facebook.com/alyson.draper/posts/10209809201680871

Your inability to understand what you do not know is exactly why medical decisions must be left in the informed hands of medical providers. Not you, and not people like you.

Those are not typical abortion on demand reasons.

Actually, at the span of time you're talking about (20+ weeks) that's exactly why most women "demand" (and screw you for that word choice by the way) abortions. The vast majority of "elective" abortions take place between 6-12 weeks. When you're in 2nd, it's typically for medical reasons and in the 3rd it's ALWAYS for medical reasons.

First of all, Nancy Pelosi uses the term "abortion on demand." Also, it's certainly anecdotal, but every woman I've known who had an abortion was either an unmarried teen or a married or single woman in her 20's - 30's who did not feel she could support another child at that time.

And the two women I know personally who had late term abortions were married and one was carrying a fetus that would kill her and one was carrying a fetus that wouldn't survive to delivery.

What were the medical issues?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a woman is already 20 or 22 weeks pregnant, she doesn't have that much longer to go all things considered.

For God's sake, abortions should not be allowed that late in the game.

The mother can hold on for another 10 or 18 weeks and then choose adoption.

You don't understand what happens when pre-eclampsia becomes eclampsia, do you?
https://rewire.news/article/2009/07/01/how-a-lateterm-abortion-saved-my-life/

Or when the twin of the already dead baby is also in the process of dying within the woman?
https://www.facebook.com/alyson.draper/posts/10209809201680871

Your inability to understand what you do not know is exactly why medical decisions must be left in the informed hands of medical providers. Not you, and not people like you.

Those are not typical abortion on demand reasons.

A. Medical reasons ARE the reasons for abortions at that gestational age. If you think that these are atypical reasons for abortions at 20 to 22 weeks, then you do not know what you are talking about. You care more about your ideology than you do the actual facts of the matter, which means you don't take it seriously at all. You should care more about it.

B. You -- or whomever you are supporting, who wrote the above -- did not say that "some" abortions should nto be allowed at the time. He or she said that they all should not be permitted, because it was only a matter of inconvenience. Again, you people should care more, if you think this is important. You're speaking about it like you get your information from bubble gum wrappers.

Trust me,these low information idiots probably also believe doctors everywhere are routinely aborting 38 week gestational babies and then murdering them in the OR because "mom changed her mind." The ways people are uninformed about abortion but want to have strong opinions and make laws about it is sickening.

This. Which always leads me to wonder if they're very young, men, or very old. No decisions in pregnancy or L and D are undertaken without the doctor and mother weighing every decision as to how it will affect both. No doc is merrily offing healthy term babies at Mom's behest.

For those actually interested in late term stories: https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/06/22/what-you-learn-from-doing-abortions-after-20-weeks/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a woman is already 20 or 22 weeks pregnant, she doesn't have that much longer to go all things considered.

For God's sake, abortions should not be allowed that late in the game.

The mother can hold on for another 10 or 18 weeks and then choose adoption.

You don't understand what happens when pre-eclampsia becomes eclampsia, do you?
https://rewire.news/article/2009/07/01/how-a-lateterm-abortion-saved-my-life/

Or when the twin of the already dead baby is also in the process of dying within the woman?
https://www.facebook.com/alyson.draper/posts/10209809201680871

Your inability to understand what you do not know is exactly why medical decisions must be left in the informed hands of medical providers. Not you, and not people like you.

Those are not typical abortion on demand reasons.

A. Medical reasons ARE the reasons for abortions at that gestational age. If you think that these are atypical reasons for abortions at 20 to 22 weeks, then you do not know what you are talking about. You care more about your ideology than you do the actual facts of the matter, which means you don't take it seriously at all. You should care more about it.

B. You -- or whomever you are supporting, who wrote the above -- did not say that "some" abortions should nto be allowed at the time. He or she said that they all should not be permitted, because it was only a matter of inconvenience. Again, you people should care more, if you think this is important. You're speaking about it like you get your information from bubble gum wrappers.

Trust me,these low information idiots probably also believe doctors everywhere are routinely aborting 38 week gestational babies and then murdering them in the OR because "mom changed her mind." The ways people are uninformed about abortion but want to have strong opinions and make laws about it is sickening.

This. Which always leads me to wonder if they're very young, men, or very old. No decisions in pregnancy or L and D are undertaken without the doctor and mother weighing every decision as to how it will affect both. No doc is merrily offing healthy term babies at Mom's behest.

For those actually interested in late term stories: https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/06/22/what-you-learn-from-doing-abortions-after-20-weeks/

Not merrily, but doctors in abortion clinics due perform abortions at a woman's request.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, they selfishly choose to abort because they don't want to deal with the sperm donor.

Could be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The most absurd post here was the one which implied that one should not blame a woman for having sex without birth control because she is human and it is natural to give way to her urges.

Ha, I wrote that post you're making that absurd claim about. My point was that it is foreseeable that people have unprotected sex and therefore a failure in our birth control policy because we know ways to reduce the risk of those bad/poorly informed choices (free long-term birth control). Blame really has no place here.

Women who do not intend to get pregnant sometimes forego BC if its something that has to be used in the act (condoms, sponges, ...), especially around there more fertile times. This isn't blaming, this is just biological fact; our bodies are programmed to procreate in the same way we experience other biological imperatives. Providing free, effective longer term BC eliminates this biologically driven factor. Again, this isn,t about blame, but recognizing we are all human. Have you ever watched this video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJG698U2Mvo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a woman is already 20 or 22 weeks pregnant, she doesn't have that much longer to go all things considered.

For God's sake, abortions should not be allowed that late in the game.

The mother can hold on for another 10 or 18 weeks and then choose adoption.

You don't understand what happens when pre-eclampsia becomes eclampsia, do you?
https://rewire.news/article/2009/07/01/how-a-lateterm-abortion-saved-my-life/

Or when the twin of the already dead baby is also in the process of dying within the woman?
https://www.facebook.com/alyson.draper/posts/10209809201680871

Your inability to understand what you do not know is exactly why medical decisions must be left in the informed hands of medical providers. Not you, and not people like you.

Those are not typical abortion on demand reasons.

A. Medical reasons ARE the reasons for abortions at that gestational age. If you think that these are atypical reasons for abortions at 20 to 22 weeks, then you do not know what you are talking about. You care more about your ideology than you do the actual facts of the matter, which means you don't take it seriously at all. You should care more about it.

B. You -- or whomever you are supporting, who wrote the above -- did not say that "some" abortions should nto be allowed at the time. He or she said that they all should not be permitted, because it was only a matter of inconvenience. Again, you people should care more, if you think this is important. You're speaking about it like you get your information from bubble gum wrappers.

Trust me,these low information idiots probably also believe doctors everywhere are routinely aborting 38 week gestational babies and then murdering them in the OR because "mom changed her mind." The ways people are uninformed about abortion but want to have strong opinions and make laws about it is sickening.

This. Which always leads me to wonder if they're very young, men, or very old. No decisions in pregnancy or L and D are undertaken without the doctor and mother weighing every decision as to how it will affect both. No doc is merrily offing healthy term babies at Mom's behest.

For those actually interested in late term stories: https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/06/22/what-you-learn-from-doing-abortions-after-20-weeks/

Not merrily, but doctors in abortion clinics due perform abortions at a woman's request.

Exactly. Just awful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a woman is already 20 or 22 weeks pregnant, she doesn't have that much longer to go all things considered.

For God's sake, abortions should not be allowed that late in the game.

The mother can hold on for another 10 or 18 weeks and then choose adoption.

You don't understand what happens when pre-eclampsia becomes eclampsia, do you?
https://rewire.news/article/2009/07/01/how-a-lateterm-abortion-saved-my-life/

Or when the twin of the already dead baby is also in the process of dying within the woman?
https://www.facebook.com/alyson.draper/posts/10209809201680871

Your inability to understand what you do not know is exactly why medical decisions must be left in the informed hands of medical providers. Not you, and not people like you.

Those are not typical abortion on demand reasons.

Actually, at the span of time you're talking about (20+ weeks) that's exactly why most women "demand" (and screw you for that word choice by the way) abortions. The vast majority of "elective" abortions take place between 6-12 weeks. When you're in 2nd, it's typically for medical reasons and in the 3rd it's ALWAYS for medical reasons.

First of all, Nancy Pelosi uses the term "abortion on demand." Also, it's certainly anecdotal, but every woman I've known who had an abortion was either an unmarried teen or a married or single woman in her 20's - 30's who did not feel she could support another child at that time.

And the two women I know personally who had late term abortions were married and one was carrying a fetus that would kill her and one was carrying a fetus that wouldn't survive to delivery.

What were the medical issues?

I have a friend who didn't abort. Her baby lived two months with constant seizures. To relieve his pain, he was drugged with opioids. Eventually he passed. Is this better than passing peacefully in the womb? I don't know ... but I do know it wouldn't be my right to decide for another family.

[Anonymous]

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For those actually interested in late term stories: https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/06/22/what-you-learn-from-doing-abortions-after-20-weeks/

fantastic red

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a woman is already 20 or 22 weeks pregnant, she doesn't have that much longer to go all things considered.

For God's sake, abortions should not be allowed that late in the game.

The mother can hold on for another 10 or 18 weeks and then choose adoption.

You don't understand what happens when pre-eclampsia becomes eclampsia, do you?
https://rewire.news/article/2009/07/01/how-a-lateterm-abortion-saved-my-life/

Or when the twin of the already dead baby is also in the process of dying within the woman?
https://www.facebook.com/alyson.draper/posts/10209809201680871

Your inability to understand what you do not know is exactly why medical decisions must be left in the informed hands of medical providers. Not you, and not people like you.

Those are not typical abortion on demand reasons.

A. Medical reasons ARE the reasons for abortions at that gestational age. If you think that these are atypical reasons for abortions at 20 to 22 weeks, then you do not know what you are talking about. You care more about your ideology than you do the actual facts of the matter, which means you don't take it seriously at all. You should care more about it.

B. You -- or whomever you are supporting, who wrote the above -- did not say that "some" abortions should nto be allowed at the time. He or she said that they all should not be permitted, because it was only a matter of inconvenience. Again, you people should care more, if you think this is important. You're speaking about it like you get your information from bubble gum wrappers.

Trust me,these low information idiots probably also believe doctors everywhere are routinely aborting 38 week gestational babies and then murdering them in the OR because "mom changed her mind." The ways people are uninformed about abortion but want to have strong opinions and make laws about it is sickening.

This. Which always leads me to wonder if they're very young, men, or very old. No decisions in pregnancy or L and D are undertaken without the doctor and mother weighing every decision as to how it will affect both. No doc is merrily offing healthy term babies at Mom's behest.

For those actually interested in late term stories: https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/06/22/what-you-learn-from-doing-abortions-after-20-weeks/

Not merrily, but doctors in abortion clinics due perform abortions at a woman's request.

Exactly. Just awful.

Pray to god you or your daughters or sisters never need one. You would be singing QUITE a different tune.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a woman is already 20 or 22 weeks pregnant, she doesn't have that much longer to go all things considered.

For God's sake, abortions should not be allowed that late in the game.

The mother can hold on for another 10 or 18 weeks and then choose adoption.

You don't understand what happens when pre-eclampsia becomes eclampsia, do you?
https://rewire.news/article/2009/07/01/how-a-lateterm-abortion-saved-my-life/

Or when the twin of the already dead baby is also in the process of dying within the woman?
https://www.facebook.com/alyson.draper/posts/10209809201680871

Your inability to understand what you do not know is exactly why medical decisions must be left in the informed hands of medical providers. Not you, and not people like you.

Those are not typical abortion on demand reasons.

A. Medical reasons ARE the reasons for abortions at that gestational age. If you think that these are atypical reasons for abortions at 20 to 22 weeks, then you do not know what you are talking about. You care more about your ideology than you do the actual facts of the matter, which means you don't take it seriously at all. You should care more about it.

B. You -- or whomever you are supporting, who wrote the above -- did not say that "some" abortions should nto be allowed at the time. He or she said that they all should not be permitted, because it was only a matter of inconvenience. Again, you people should care more, if you think this is important. You're speaking about it like you get your information from bubble gum wrappers.

Trust me,these low information idiots probably also believe doctors everywhere are routinely aborting 38 week gestational babies and then murdering them in the OR because "mom changed her mind." The ways people are uninformed about abortion but want to have strong opinions and make laws about it is sickening.

This. Which always leads me to wonder if they're very young, men, or very old. No decisions in pregnancy or L and D are undertaken without the doctor and mother weighing every decision as to how it will affect both. No doc is merrily offing healthy term babies at Mom's behest.

For those actually interested in late term stories: https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/06/22/what-you-learn-from-doing-abortions-after-20-weeks/

Not merrily, but doctors in abortion clinics due perform abortions at a woman's request.

At 38 weeks? Liar.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a woman is already 20 or 22 weeks pregnant, she doesn't have that much longer to go all things considered.

For God's sake, abortions should not be allowed that late in the game.

The mother can hold on for another 10 or 18 weeks and then choose adoption.

You don't understand what happens when pre-eclampsia becomes eclampsia, do you?
https://rewire.news/article/2009/07/01/how-a-lateterm-abortion-saved-my-life/

Or when the twin of the already dead baby is also in the process of dying within the woman?
https://www.facebook.com/alyson.draper/posts/10209809201680871

Your inability to understand what you do not know is exactly why medical decisions must be left in the informed hands of medical providers. Not you, and not people like you.

Those are not typical abortion on demand reasons.

A. Medical reasons ARE the reasons for abortions at that gestational age. If you think that these are atypical reasons for abortions at 20 to 22 weeks, then you do not know what you are talking about. You care more about your ideology than you do the actual facts of the matter, which means you don't take it seriously at all. You should care more about it.

B. You -- or whomever you are supporting, who wrote the above -- did not say that "some" abortions should nto be allowed at the time. He or she said that they all should not be permitted, because it was only a matter of inconvenience. Again, you people should care more, if you think this is important. You're speaking about it like you get your information from bubble gum wrappers.

Trust me,these low information idiots probably also believe doctors everywhere are routinely aborting 38 week gestational babies and then murdering them in the OR because "mom changed her mind." The ways people are uninformed about abortion but want to have strong opinions and make laws about it is sickening.

This. Which always leads me to wonder if they're very young, men, or very old. No decisions in pregnancy or L and D are undertaken without the doctor and mother weighing every decision as to how it will affect both. No doc is merrily offing healthy term babies at Mom's behest.

For those actually interested in late term stories: https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/06/22/what-you-learn-from-doing-abortions-after-20-weeks/

Not merrily, but doctors in abortion clinics due perform abortions at a woman's request.

Exactly. Just awful.

Pray to god you or your daughters or sisters never need one. You would be singing QUITE a different tune.

You have no clue. It's STILL awful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If a woman is already 20 or 22 weeks pregnant, she doesn't have that much longer to go all things considered.

For God's sake, abortions should not be allowed that late in the game.

The mother can hold on for another 10 or 18 weeks and then choose adoption.

You don't understand what happens when pre-eclampsia becomes eclampsia, do you?
https://rewire.news/article/2009/07/01/how-a-lateterm-abortion-saved-my-life/

Or when the twin of the already dead baby is also in the process of dying within the woman?
https://www.facebook.com/alyson.draper/posts/10209809201680871

Your inability to understand what you do not know is exactly why medical decisions must be left in the informed hands of medical providers. Not you, and not people like you.

Those are not typical abortion on demand reasons.

A. Medical reasons ARE the reasons for abortions at that gestational age. If you think that these are atypical reasons for abortions at 20 to 22 weeks, then you do not know what you are talking about. You care more about your ideology than you do the actual facts of the matter, which means you don't take it seriously at all. You should care more about it.

B. You -- or whomever you are supporting, who wrote the above -- did not say that "some" abortions should nto be allowed at the time. He or she said that they all should not be permitted, because it was only a matter of inconvenience. Again, you people should care more, if you think this is important. You're speaking about it like you get your information from bubble gum wrappers.

Trust me,these low information idiots probably also believe doctors everywhere are routinely aborting 38 week gestational babies and then murdering them in the OR because "mom changed her mind." The ways people are uninformed about abortion but want to have strong opinions and make laws about it is sickening.

This. Which always leads me to wonder if they're very young, men, or very old. No decisions in pregnancy or L and D are undertaken without the doctor and mother weighing every decision as to how it will affect both. No doc is merrily offing healthy term babies at Mom's behest.

For those actually interested in late term stories: https://drjengunter.wordpress.com/2016/06/22/what-you-learn-from-doing-abortions-after-20-weeks/

Not merrily, but doctors in abortion clinics due perform abortions at a woman's request.

Exactly. Just awful.

Pray to god you or your daughters or sisters never need one. You would be singing QUITE a different tune.

You have no clue. It's STILL awful.

It would have been wonderful if Savita Halappanavar could have gotten one.
How can the government pretend it cares about children's lives prior to birth but cut health and education services for them after birth, hippocrits.