I disagree. Nothing about this thread makes me reflect on the state of my marriage. Because the bottom line is, everything can be going right in your marriage and your spouse will still cheat. Cheating is a selfish act and while the cheater may find excuses to justify his/her behavior, they are usually lies and/or exaggerations to lessen their guilty conscience. |
What's your story, PP? What's your dog in this fight? |
No dog in the fight, other than being a married parent who is so saddened by the high divorce rate & what that could mean for my kids someday.
Also saddened by what I see as one of the causes: society today does not seem to value marriage anymore - at least in many cases. And divorce is hard on children; it's a hardship forced on them even though it is not, in any way, their fault. |
Do we all think that infidelity --even long term affairs in which there is a clear investment of time, money, and emotions in the AP-- should end the marriage?
There are many cultures in which wives tolerate a mistress precisely because she is a known "evil" vs. an unknown (and therefore, more dangerous) one. An established mistress is one that can be spied on and, to some extent, manipulated in ways that the women a traveling husband might hire for one evening can't be. I'm not advocating infidelity, but as a childhood survivor of a divorce caused by my father's second family, I am arguing we would have been much better off if Mom had controlled the situation a bit. Instead, Family A (me and my siblings) ended up growing up in inner city poverty and Family B (the half-sibs) were elevated to a cushy life in the suburbs. And yes, I am bitter. My mom preserved her dignity, but at what cost to her children's economic well-being and emotional health? |
I don't think OP has low self esteem. I would totally let a guy take care of me financially but only if I was the only woman he was involved with. I could never knowingly date a guy in a relationship and be the OW. I would be pissed if my dh was using family money for OW so I look at it from that aspect as well.
|
I'm the one asked about the dog in the fight. I was actually asking the person who seemed to be defending the validity of OP's lame BS (IMHO) thread. |
I actually think it is the opposite. With women having more of a choice, they can more easily demand respect and fidelity. I do not think infidelity has probably increased much. It has always been very common -- it's just 1) easier to find out about it now with technology, and 2) women have choices when they do find out about it - they don't have to just suck it up. |
But that's not what she said when asked the question. I'm not going to scroll back through 30 pages to find it, but she said her parents would ask things like, "How are things going?" and she'd say, "Fine" and that was that. |
OMG, this is still going on? Looks like OP found DCUM's raw nerve... |
Infidelity happens. Men, women, cheat at similar rates.
And it apparently comes in many forms: - drunken one time fling - an ex / old flame comes to town - spouse travels / deployed - office mate - subordinate/intern/student - unhappy or sexless marriage - prostitution - mistress / kept woman Why does DCUM seem so surprised at this last one? Anyone realize how many 24 year olds are unemployed and would do anything to not live in their parents basement - including put out? |
More like every married women's darkest fear or source of paranoia. |
|
OP, I had affairs with married men without even getting dinner dates, much less a car or apartment, out of it. How did you broach the subject of wanting him to support you, or did he offer? |
I wouldn't care if my H had a kept woman. One of our issues is his low sex drive. Having someone else might rev it up more. |
NP here who was once in a nearly identical situation as OP. For five years he told me he loved me and that I was the only one he was sleeping with. It turned out that not only was he still occasionally seeing the girlfriend I had "replaced," he was also seeing dommes and tranny prostitutes every chance he got. If someone can hide ten years of intense affairs (think nearly constant contact, multiple visits per week, hundreds of nights away from home) and hundreds of thousands of dollars from their spouse, you better believe that is just the tip of the iceberg. |