Trump's Madison Square Garden rally

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Anonymous wrote:Folks I am watching this thing live and it's just weird. I don't mean that people are saying things I disagree with -- that's a given. The vibe is off. It doesn't feel good. It doesn't feel like enthusiasm. It feels like blind rage mixed with fake bravado. It just feels aggro. And the crowd isn't just mostly white -- it is dominated by men. Like by a lot. It's weird to have a political rally that is this skewed.

A lot of the speakers have really extensive and weird looking plastic surgery. And not just the women or the Trumps. Tucker looks pinched and tucked in an uncomfortable way. Elon looks like an alien. It's uncanny valley stuff. If it was 1998 and you saw footage of this you'd be like "what is wrong with their faces -- why would anyone do this."

Regarding the "substance" they just repeat the same easily disproven lies over and over. A key talking point is that "they" tried to kill Trump. The implication is that of course the Democrats did it but he was shot at by a registered Republican with mental health issues.

The racism isn't just dog whistles. It's just open and contemptuous. They are saying that democrats are trying to "replace" Americans with immigrants. The comedian with all the racist lines was egregious but it's in line with the rest of the rally. They use words like "invasion" and "lowlifes" to describe immigrants and people who live in cities (while also praising NYC and claiming Trump "made" the city). It's very creepy.

Anyway Trump is talking now and he has less energy than most of the speakers who preceded him. He speaks in this dull monotone. The only person less convincing was melania who appeared to read her speech without comprehending it.

I just don't understand what is compelling about this unless you've just given up on life. It's offensive yes. But it's also just a bummer and extremely depressing.

I’m an immigrant and I’m not for open boarders. But how any immigrant could vote for Trump, esp. us non Anglo ones, baffles me. The writing is on the wall. He means you too, people. Is it denial? Leopards Ate My Face syndrome incoming for these people…

No one is for open borders. If there were open borders, then interdictions and apprehensions would be down to zero, and there would be no deportations. Instead, all of those are up under Biden.

+1 And a lot of democrats have been calling for a LONG time to fix our immigration system so that instead of having lots of people sneaking into the country for jobs or to escape political unrest we could have processes in place that would allow people in on work visas and keep track of them and also place reasonable limits on how many come in at once.

A huge part of what is broken with our immigration system is that a lot of illegal immigration should actually just be legal and controlled. And if you do that then you can actually take advantage of what is great about immigration while also controlling what can be bad about it.

But whenever we try to address this issue we get locked in a debate with people who just hate immigrants. If the Immigration bill had passed it would have made some strides in this direction but it got shut down by Trumpers in Congress (after they'd supported it!) even though it included tons of provisions for limiting and controlling immigration.

Trump and his party don't actually want to solve the immigration crisis. They want to use it get people to vote for them. They love the crowds of migrants at the border because they can turn them into a bogeyman to scare people with. Once you actually talk about solving the problem they get bored.

Democrats are NOT in favor of "open borders" and all the crap that Republicans claim. Democrats want reforms to fix a lot of the problems. Remember, it was Trump's loyalists in Congress who shut down the Bipartisan Border Bill and then lied about it claiming it was a bad bill when in fact it addressed many things their own House bill didn't.

Democrats want solutions. Republicans just want to grandstand on the problem and hurl blame everywhere without actually fixing it.

Any Republican voting for Republicans because they think they have the answers and will fix it are kidding themselves. That's already been proven.

This is absolute BS. The first thing Biden did in office was open up the border with executive orders. He was open about it at the time. Harris insisted the border was secure. Stop trying to rewrite history because your candidate is tacking to the center to try to garner votes.

https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/vice-president-kamal-harris-under-fire-for-saying-the-border-is-secure-mark-morgan-united-states-customs-order-protection-immigration-migrants-joe-biden

https://www.nilc.org/resources/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/

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These twits really do think no one will call them out on their lies.

Point out the part about open borders.

Well, let's see, the Dems are so desperate to not lose because of this border issue, that they repeatedly point to the recent bill, which ALLOWS 5,000 illegal immigrants a day before measures are taken. Sounds pretty open to me, and also proves at the same time that they can stop the flow when they want to.

This isn't true at all. Do you genuinely just get your news from Trump's Twitter account?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/does-new-immigration-bill-5000-illegal-border-crossings-per-day-rcna136656

From your article, which you may want to read:

"Under the new immigration bill, the Department of Homeland Security could close the border if too many migrants were showing up with asylum claims. After negotiators conferred with the Border Patrol and officials at the Department of Homeland Security, they crafted the legislation to give DHS the authority to close the border if they reached a seven-day average of 4,000 or more border encounters. A seven-day average of 5,000 or more would mandate a border closure. If the number exceeded 8,500 in a single day, there would also be a mandatory border closure."

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Anonymous wrote:This may be my favorite thread on DCUM, which is saying something. The liberal bubble never ceases to amaze me. The pearl clutching is fantastic entertainment -- Nazi, Nazi, Nazi! (Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!)

Just a bunch of Karens who need to step away from the ledge and touch some grass. Inject this right into my veins!

You sound like you may be doomed to repeat history class
Here's a description of the beginning of the actual 1939 Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden:

The rally began at 8 pm[3] with a rendition of "The Star-Spangled Banner", sung by Margarete Rittershaush. Next, James Wheeler-Hill, national secretary of the Bund, opened the night with the statement that "if George Washington were alive today, he would be friends with Adolf Hitler."[9] Calling upon his fellow Americans, Wheller-Hill challenged Bund members to restore America to the 'True Americans' while condemning President Franklin D. Roosevelt's Secretary of the Interior, Harold L. Ickes for attacking Nazi officials.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939_Nazi_rally_at_Madison_Square_Garden

I know this may not register in your echo chamber, but I am not worried about Trump wanting to take over the world and exterminate a race of people. Sorry, I live in reality. It is almost like Trump has already been President, and didn't try to kill anyone or start any wars (quite the opposite). And I thought many liberals believe Israel is committing genoicide, yet Harris supports Israel right now. So, hmm, who is the real Hitler?

Wait until you find out that Trump supports Israel now too.

OMG, we have a Hitler v. Hitler election!!!!! Dr. Jill Stein is getting my vote.

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Anonymous wrote:Folks I am watching this thing live and it's just weird. I don't mean that people are saying things I disagree with -- that's a given. The vibe is off. It doesn't feel good. It doesn't feel like enthusiasm. It feels like blind rage mixed with fake bravado. It just feels aggro. And the crowd isn't just mostly white -- it is dominated by men. Like by a lot. It's weird to have a political rally that is this skewed.

A lot of the speakers have really extensive and weird looking plastic surgery. And not just the women or the Trumps. Tucker looks pinched and tucked in an uncomfortable way. Elon looks like an alien. It's uncanny valley stuff. If it was 1998 and you saw footage of this you'd be like "what is wrong with their faces -- why would anyone do this."

Regarding the "substance" they just repeat the same easily disproven lies over and over. A key talking point is that "they" tried to kill Trump. The implication is that of course the Democrats did it but he was shot at by a registered Republican with mental health issues.

The racism isn't just dog whistles. It's just open and contemptuous. They are saying that democrats are trying to "replace" Americans with immigrants. The comedian with all the racist lines was egregious but it's in line with the rest of the rally. They use words like "invasion" and "lowlifes" to describe immigrants and people who live in cities (while also praising NYC and claiming Trump "made" the city). It's very creepy.

Anyway Trump is talking now and he has less energy than most of the speakers who preceded him. He speaks in this dull monotone. The only person less convincing was melania who appeared to read her speech without comprehending it.

I just don't understand what is compelling about this unless you've just given up on life. It's offensive yes. But it's also just a bummer and extremely depressing.

I’m an immigrant and I’m not for open boarders. But how any immigrant could vote for Trump, esp. us non Anglo ones, baffles me. The writing is on the wall. He means you too, people. Is it denial? Leopards Ate My Face syndrome incoming for these people…

No one is for open borders. If there were open borders, then interdictions and apprehensions would be down to zero, and there would be no deportations. Instead, all of those are up under Biden.

+1 And a lot of democrats have been calling for a LONG time to fix our immigration system so that instead of having lots of people sneaking into the country for jobs or to escape political unrest we could have processes in place that would allow people in on work visas and keep track of them and also place reasonable limits on how many come in at once.

A huge part of what is broken with our immigration system is that a lot of illegal immigration should actually just be legal and controlled. And if you do that then you can actually take advantage of what is great about immigration while also controlling what can be bad about it.

But whenever we try to address this issue we get locked in a debate with people who just hate immigrants. If the Immigration bill had passed it would have made some strides in this direction but it got shut down by Trumpers in Congress (after they'd supported it!) even though it included tons of provisions for limiting and controlling immigration.

Trump and his party don't actually want to solve the immigration crisis. They want to use it get people to vote for them. They love the crowds of migrants at the border because they can turn them into a bogeyman to scare people with. Once you actually talk about solving the problem they get bored.

Democrats are NOT in favor of "open borders" and all the crap that Republicans claim. Democrats want reforms to fix a lot of the problems. Remember, it was Trump's loyalists in Congress who shut down the Bipartisan Border Bill and then lied about it claiming it was a bad bill when in fact it addressed many things their own House bill didn't.

Democrats want solutions. Republicans just want to grandstand on the problem and hurl blame everywhere without actually fixing it.

Any Republican voting for Republicans because they think they have the answers and will fix it are kidding themselves. That's already been proven.

This is absolute BS. The first thing Biden did in office was open up the border with executive orders. He was open about it at the time. Harris insisted the border was secure. Stop trying to rewrite history because your candidate is tacking to the center to try to garner votes.

https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/vice-president-kamal-harris-under-fire-for-saying-the-border-is-secure-mark-morgan-united-states-customs-order-protection-immigration-migrants-joe-biden

https://www.nilc.org/resources/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/

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These twits really do think no one will call them out on their lies.

Point out the part about open borders.

Well, let's see, the Dems are so desperate to not lose because of this border issue, that they repeatedly point to the recent bill, which ALLOWS 5,000 illegal immigrants a day before measures are taken. Sounds pretty open to me, and also proves at the same time that they can stop the flow when they want to.

This isn't true at all. Do you genuinely just get your news from Trump's Twitter account?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/does-new-immigration-bill-5000-illegal-border-crossings-per-day-rcna136656

From your article, which you may want to read:

"Under the new immigration bill, the Department of Homeland Security could close the border if too many migrants were showing up with asylum claims. After negotiators conferred with the Border Patrol and officials at the Department of Homeland Security, they crafted the legislation to give DHS the authority to close the border if they reached a seven-day average of 4,000 or more border encounters. A seven-day average of 5,000 or more would mandate a border closure. If the number exceeded 8,500 in a single day, there would also be a mandatory border closure."

Ok, go on...next define what a border encounter is.

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I am a proud Puerto Rican woman and this whole rally was a nightmare. They said the quiet part out loud and the video clips are circulating in my community.

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Anonymous wrote:This may be my favorite thread on DCUM, which is saying something. The liberal bubble never ceases to amaze me. The pearl clutching is fantastic entertainment -- Nazi, Nazi, Nazi! (Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!)

Just a bunch of Karens who need to step away from the ledge and touch some grass. Inject this right into my veins!

Gaslighting bullshit.

Trump had a fascist rally. That’s what it was. Stop playing games.

The D.C. bubble is incredibly out of touch with most of the electorate. Trump will win in a landslide, mark my words.

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Anonymous wrote:Folks I am watching this thing live and it's just weird. I don't mean that people are saying things I disagree with -- that's a given. The vibe is off. It doesn't feel good. It doesn't feel like enthusiasm. It feels like blind rage mixed with fake bravado. It just feels aggro. And the crowd isn't just mostly white -- it is dominated by men. Like by a lot. It's weird to have a political rally that is this skewed.

A lot of the speakers have really extensive and weird looking plastic surgery. And not just the women or the Trumps. Tucker looks pinched and tucked in an uncomfortable way. Elon looks like an alien. It's uncanny valley stuff. If it was 1998 and you saw footage of this you'd be like "what is wrong with their faces -- why would anyone do this."

Regarding the "substance" they just repeat the same easily disproven lies over and over. A key talking point is that "they" tried to kill Trump. The implication is that of course the Democrats did it but he was shot at by a registered Republican with mental health issues.

The racism isn't just dog whistles. It's just open and contemptuous. They are saying that democrats are trying to "replace" Americans with immigrants. The comedian with all the racist lines was egregious but it's in line with the rest of the rally. They use words like "invasion" and "lowlifes" to describe immigrants and people who live in cities (while also praising NYC and claiming Trump "made" the city). It's very creepy.

Anyway Trump is talking now and he has less energy than most of the speakers who preceded him. He speaks in this dull monotone. The only person less convincing was melania who appeared to read her speech without comprehending it.

I just don't understand what is compelling about this unless you've just given up on life. It's offensive yes. But it's also just a bummer and extremely depressing.

I’m an immigrant and I’m not for open boarders. But how any immigrant could vote for Trump, esp. us non Anglo ones, baffles me. The writing is on the wall. He means you too, people. Is it denial? Leopards Ate My Face syndrome incoming for these people…

No one is for open borders. If there were open borders, then interdictions and apprehensions would be down to zero, and there would be no deportations. Instead, all of those are up under Biden.

+1 And a lot of democrats have been calling for a LONG time to fix our immigration system so that instead of having lots of people sneaking into the country for jobs or to escape political unrest we could have processes in place that would allow people in on work visas and keep track of them and also place reasonable limits on how many come in at once.

A huge part of what is broken with our immigration system is that a lot of illegal immigration should actually just be legal and controlled. And if you do that then you can actually take advantage of what is great about immigration while also controlling what can be bad about it.

But whenever we try to address this issue we get locked in a debate with people who just hate immigrants. If the Immigration bill had passed it would have made some strides in this direction but it got shut down by Trumpers in Congress (after they'd supported it!) even though it included tons of provisions for limiting and controlling immigration.

Trump and his party don't actually want to solve the immigration crisis. They want to use it get people to vote for them. They love the crowds of migrants at the border because they can turn them into a bogeyman to scare people with. Once you actually talk about solving the problem they get bored.

Democrats are NOT in favor of "open borders" and all the crap that Republicans claim. Democrats want reforms to fix a lot of the problems. Remember, it was Trump's loyalists in Congress who shut down the Bipartisan Border Bill and then lied about it claiming it was a bad bill when in fact it addressed many things their own House bill didn't.

Democrats want solutions. Republicans just want to grandstand on the problem and hurl blame everywhere without actually fixing it.

Any Republican voting for Republicans because they think they have the answers and will fix it are kidding themselves. That's already been proven.

This is absolute BS. The first thing Biden did in office was open up the border with executive orders. He was open about it at the time. Harris insisted the border was secure. Stop trying to rewrite history because your candidate is tacking to the center to try to garner votes.

https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/vice-president-kamal-harris-under-fire-for-saying-the-border-is-secure-mark-morgan-united-states-customs-order-protection-immigration-migrants-joe-biden

https://www.nilc.org/resources/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/

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These twits really do think no one will call them out on their lies.

Point out the part about open borders.

Well, let's see, the Dems are so desperate to not lose because of this border issue, that they repeatedly point to the recent bill, which ALLOWS 5,000 illegal immigrants a day before measures are taken. Sounds pretty open to me, and also proves at the same time that they can stop the flow when they want to.

This isn't true at all. Do you genuinely just get your news from Trump's Twitter account?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/does-new-immigration-bill-5000-illegal-border-crossings-per-day-rcna136656

From your article, which you may want to read:

"Under the new immigration bill, the Department of Homeland Security could close the border if too many migrants were showing up with asylum claims. After negotiators conferred with the Border Patrol and officials at the Department of Homeland Security, they crafted the legislation to give DHS the authority to close the border if they reached a seven-day average of 4,000 or more border encounters. A seven-day average of 5,000 or more would mandate a border closure. If the number exceeded 8,500 in a single day, there would also be a mandatory border closure."

Ok, go on...next define what a border encounter is.

Continue to play coy while we watch you lose this election because of this very issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Melania is speaking!

I really don’t care do U?

Her jacket is still sold in multiple places so she got the last laugh, loser.

Really cuz she's up there trashing New York City because her and her lying cheating husband got run out of town.

She didn’t trash NYC at all. Are you watching the rally? I am. She was very complimentary to NYC.

None of the trolls are watching or attending the rally. They don’t need to. They just make up their own reality.

I…okay.

I’m overall fairly disgusted by the celebrity-worship turn of all politics, including neoliberal (IDGAF at the eye rolls because it’s true) worship of moneyed ex-Presidents and their families. But….this is an embarrassing presentation. It’s Island of Misfit Toys Speakers Bureau. It’s trying to pretend that unknowns are famous in entertainment circles, and that excepting racist Apartheid Clyde up there with his pot belly and his yanked tiiiight face lift, that ‘rich’ people are wiling to be seen openly as Trumpist (and yes of course many rich folk love Trump for the tax break but they are sensible enough to not love him publicly).

This is like an offcuts from the floor Nazi rally. Like people with a variety of neonatal problems, serious criminal histories, and imported sex workers all had an orgy and birthed these miscreants. It’s depressing to behold and its okay for you to admit that secretly to yourself.

19:19 here and yes -- it is really striking how there's just no one of note there.

Ivanka isn't even there. Think about that. It's the biggest stage he's taken in this campaign and his daughter and son-in-law who worked in his last campaign and who has been closest to among his children for most of her life is nowhere to be seen. It's weird.

Normally at something like this you'd see Senators and Governors who aren't currently up for election. Or retired Republicans who still have good reputations. There are none.

It is really notable how many people are NOT there. And you know they were asked. They said no. Think about that.

They weren't just part of the campaign. They were White House senior advisors, and as much as I loathe the Trumps, credit where credit is due - they both had big policy accomplishments (paid parental leave for federal employees and the Abraham accords). It speaks absolute volumes that both of them have turned their back on her father.

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Anonymous wrote:Watch the NY local media coverage. The streets are packed with Trump supporters who are watching on Jumbotrons and the place is packed to the brim.

packed I tell ya

DP. It's kind of sad that you have to post a picture of this evening when the streets were indeed packed today - which is what Eric Trump was referring to.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/27/us/politics/trump-msg-rally-line.html
https://nypost.com/2024/10/27/us-news/trump-takes-stage-at-nycs-madison-square-garden-for-historic-rally/

Of course they would be packed while people were WAITING IN LINE. But when you say that people were packing the streets watching Jumbotrons outside the arena, was that also happening?

Gosh, my Google machine pulled this up just now.

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Anonymous wrote:Folks I am watching this thing live and it's just weird. I don't mean that people are saying things I disagree with -- that's a given. The vibe is off. It doesn't feel good. It doesn't feel like enthusiasm. It feels like blind rage mixed with fake bravado. It just feels aggro. And the crowd isn't just mostly white -- it is dominated by men. Like by a lot. It's weird to have a political rally that is this skewed.

A lot of the speakers have really extensive and weird looking plastic surgery. And not just the women or the Trumps. Tucker looks pinched and tucked in an uncomfortable way. Elon looks like an alien. It's uncanny valley stuff. If it was 1998 and you saw footage of this you'd be like "what is wrong with their faces -- why would anyone do this."

Regarding the "substance" they just repeat the same easily disproven lies over and over. A key talking point is that "they" tried to kill Trump. The implication is that of course the Democrats did it but he was shot at by a registered Republican with mental health issues.

The racism isn't just dog whistles. It's just open and contemptuous. They are saying that democrats are trying to "replace" Americans with immigrants. The comedian with all the racist lines was egregious but it's in line with the rest of the rally. They use words like "invasion" and "lowlifes" to describe immigrants and people who live in cities (while also praising NYC and claiming Trump "made" the city). It's very creepy.

Anyway Trump is talking now and he has less energy than most of the speakers who preceded him. He speaks in this dull monotone. The only person less convincing was melania who appeared to read her speech without comprehending it.

I just don't understand what is compelling about this unless you've just given up on life. It's offensive yes. But it's also just a bummer and extremely depressing.

I’m an immigrant and I’m not for open boarders. But how any immigrant could vote for Trump, esp. us non Anglo ones, baffles me. The writing is on the wall. He means you too, people. Is it denial? Leopards Ate My Face syndrome incoming for these people…

No one is for open borders. If there were open borders, then interdictions and apprehensions would be down to zero, and there would be no deportations. Instead, all of those are up under Biden.

+1 And a lot of democrats have been calling for a LONG time to fix our immigration system so that instead of having lots of people sneaking into the country for jobs or to escape political unrest we could have processes in place that would allow people in on work visas and keep track of them and also place reasonable limits on how many come in at once.

A huge part of what is broken with our immigration system is that a lot of illegal immigration should actually just be legal and controlled. And if you do that then you can actually take advantage of what is great about immigration while also controlling what can be bad about it.

But whenever we try to address this issue we get locked in a debate with people who just hate immigrants. If the Immigration bill had passed it would have made some strides in this direction but it got shut down by Trumpers in Congress (after they'd supported it!) even though it included tons of provisions for limiting and controlling immigration.

Trump and his party don't actually want to solve the immigration crisis. They want to use it get people to vote for them. They love the crowds of migrants at the border because they can turn them into a bogeyman to scare people with. Once you actually talk about solving the problem they get bored.

Democrats are NOT in favor of "open borders" and all the crap that Republicans claim. Democrats want reforms to fix a lot of the problems. Remember, it was Trump's loyalists in Congress who shut down the Bipartisan Border Bill and then lied about it claiming it was a bad bill when in fact it addressed many things their own House bill didn't.

Democrats want solutions. Republicans just want to grandstand on the problem and hurl blame everywhere without actually fixing it.

Any Republican voting for Republicans because they think they have the answers and will fix it are kidding themselves. That's already been proven.

This is absolute BS. The first thing Biden did in office was open up the border with executive orders. He was open about it at the time. Harris insisted the border was secure. Stop trying to rewrite history because your candidate is tacking to the center to try to garner votes.

https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/vice-president-kamal-harris-under-fire-for-saying-the-border-is-secure-mark-morgan-united-states-customs-order-protection-immigration-migrants-joe-biden

https://www.nilc.org/resources/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/

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These twits really do think no one will call them out on their lies.

Point out the part about open borders.

Well, let's see, the Dems are so desperate to not lose because of this border issue, that they repeatedly point to the recent bill, which ALLOWS 5,000 illegal immigrants a day before measures are taken. Sounds pretty open to me, and also proves at the same time that they can stop the flow when they want to.

This isn't true at all. Do you genuinely just get your news from Trump's Twitter account?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/does-new-immigration-bill-5000-illegal-border-crossings-per-day-rcna136656

From your article, which you may want to read:

"Under the new immigration bill, the Department of Homeland Security could close the border if too many migrants were showing up with asylum claims. After negotiators conferred with the Border Patrol and officials at the Department of Homeland Security, they crafted the legislation to give DHS the authority to close the border if they reached a seven-day average of 4,000 or more border encounters. A seven-day average of 5,000 or more would mandate a border closure. If the number exceeded 8,500 in a single day, there would also be a mandatory border closure."

Ok, go on...next define what a border encounter is.

Continue to play coy while we watch you lose this election because of this very issue.

So yeah, you DO just get your news from Trump's Twitter account. Thanks for clarifying the obvious about MAGA.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump sounds rested and confident.

He sounds like the Nazi garbage he is

What’s he said that is nazi? I am listening to him. You tell us what he has said that is “nazi.” We are waiting.

Dude. This dumpster fire is just unspinnable. Give it up.

Nobody os spinning anything. You don’t have to like or agree with Trump.

But what’s he said that is nazi?

There are multiple examples in this thread. Just read it.

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Anonymous wrote:Folks I am watching this thing live and it's just weird. I don't mean that people are saying things I disagree with -- that's a given. The vibe is off. It doesn't feel good. It doesn't feel like enthusiasm. It feels like blind rage mixed with fake bravado. It just feels aggro. And the crowd isn't just mostly white -- it is dominated by men. Like by a lot. It's weird to have a political rally that is this skewed.

A lot of the speakers have really extensive and weird looking plastic surgery. And not just the women or the Trumps. Tucker looks pinched and tucked in an uncomfortable way. Elon looks like an alien. It's uncanny valley stuff. If it was 1998 and you saw footage of this you'd be like "what is wrong with their faces -- why would anyone do this."

Regarding the "substance" they just repeat the same easily disproven lies over and over. A key talking point is that "they" tried to kill Trump. The implication is that of course the Democrats did it but he was shot at by a registered Republican with mental health issues.

The racism isn't just dog whistles. It's just open and contemptuous. They are saying that democrats are trying to "replace" Americans with immigrants. The comedian with all the racist lines was egregious but it's in line with the rest of the rally. They use words like "invasion" and "lowlifes" to describe immigrants and people who live in cities (while also praising NYC and claiming Trump "made" the city). It's very creepy.

Anyway Trump is talking now and he has less energy than most of the speakers who preceded him. He speaks in this dull monotone. The only person less convincing was melania who appeared to read her speech without comprehending it.

I just don't understand what is compelling about this unless you've just given up on life. It's offensive yes. But it's also just a bummer and extremely depressing.

I’m an immigrant and I’m not for open boarders. But how any immigrant could vote for Trump, esp. us non Anglo ones, baffles me. The writing is on the wall. He means you too, people. Is it denial? Leopards Ate My Face syndrome incoming for these people…

No one is for open borders. If there were open borders, then interdictions and apprehensions would be down to zero, and there would be no deportations. Instead, all of those are up under Biden.

+1 And a lot of democrats have been calling for a LONG time to fix our immigration system so that instead of having lots of people sneaking into the country for jobs or to escape political unrest we could have processes in place that would allow people in on work visas and keep track of them and also place reasonable limits on how many come in at once.

A huge part of what is broken with our immigration system is that a lot of illegal immigration should actually just be legal and controlled. And if you do that then you can actually take advantage of what is great about immigration while also controlling what can be bad about it.

But whenever we try to address this issue we get locked in a debate with people who just hate immigrants. If the Immigration bill had passed it would have made some strides in this direction but it got shut down by Trumpers in Congress (after they'd supported it!) even though it included tons of provisions for limiting and controlling immigration.

Trump and his party don't actually want to solve the immigration crisis. They want to use it get people to vote for them. They love the crowds of migrants at the border because they can turn them into a bogeyman to scare people with. Once you actually talk about solving the problem they get bored.

Democrats are NOT in favor of "open borders" and all the crap that Republicans claim. Democrats want reforms to fix a lot of the problems. Remember, it was Trump's loyalists in Congress who shut down the Bipartisan Border Bill and then lied about it claiming it was a bad bill when in fact it addressed many things their own House bill didn't.

Democrats want solutions. Republicans just want to grandstand on the problem and hurl blame everywhere without actually fixing it.

Any Republican voting for Republicans because they think they have the answers and will fix it are kidding themselves. That's already been proven.

This is absolute BS. The first thing Biden did in office was open up the border with executive orders. He was open about it at the time. Harris insisted the border was secure. Stop trying to rewrite history because your candidate is tacking to the center to try to garner votes.

https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/vice-president-kamal-harris-under-fire-for-saying-the-border-is-secure-mark-morgan-united-states-customs-order-protection-immigration-migrants-joe-biden

https://www.nilc.org/resources/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/

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These twits really do think no one will call them out on their lies.

Point out the part about open borders.

Well, let's see, the Dems are so desperate to not lose because of this border issue, that they repeatedly point to the recent bill, which ALLOWS 5,000 illegal immigrants a day before measures are taken. Sounds pretty open to me, and also proves at the same time that they can stop the flow when they want to.

This isn't true at all. Do you genuinely just get your news from Trump's Twitter account?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/does-new-immigration-bill-5000-illegal-border-crossings-per-day-rcna136656

From your article, which you may want to read:

"Under the new immigration bill, the Department of Homeland Security could close the border if too many migrants were showing up with asylum claims. After negotiators conferred with the Border Patrol and officials at the Department of Homeland Security, they crafted the legislation to give DHS the authority to close the border if they reached a seven-day average of 4,000 or more border encounters. A seven-day average of 5,000 or more would mandate a border closure. If the number exceeded 8,500 in a single day, there would also be a mandatory border closure."

Biden/Harris/Mayorkas would not activate that provision. It is just a talking point, along with a restriction not to close prior to that level.

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I remember when Mitt Romney rally was compared to a Nazi rally.

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Anonymous wrote:Folks I am watching this thing live and it's just weird. I don't mean that people are saying things I disagree with -- that's a given. The vibe is off. It doesn't feel good. It doesn't feel like enthusiasm. It feels like blind rage mixed with fake bravado. It just feels aggro. And the crowd isn't just mostly white -- it is dominated by men. Like by a lot. It's weird to have a political rally that is this skewed.

A lot of the speakers have really extensive and weird looking plastic surgery. And not just the women or the Trumps. Tucker looks pinched and tucked in an uncomfortable way. Elon looks like an alien. It's uncanny valley stuff. If it was 1998 and you saw footage of this you'd be like "what is wrong with their faces -- why would anyone do this."

Regarding the "substance" they just repeat the same easily disproven lies over and over. A key talking point is that "they" tried to kill Trump. The implication is that of course the Democrats did it but he was shot at by a registered Republican with mental health issues.

The racism isn't just dog whistles. It's just open and contemptuous. They are saying that democrats are trying to "replace" Americans with immigrants. The comedian with all the racist lines was egregious but it's in line with the rest of the rally. They use words like "invasion" and "lowlifes" to describe immigrants and people who live in cities (while also praising NYC and claiming Trump "made" the city). It's very creepy.

Anyway Trump is talking now and he has less energy than most of the speakers who preceded him. He speaks in this dull monotone. The only person less convincing was melania who appeared to read her speech without comprehending it.

I just don't understand what is compelling about this unless you've just given up on life. It's offensive yes. But it's also just a bummer and extremely depressing.

I’m an immigrant and I’m not for open boarders. But how any immigrant could vote for Trump, esp. us non Anglo ones, baffles me. The writing is on the wall. He means you too, people. Is it denial? Leopards Ate My Face syndrome incoming for these people…

No one is for open borders. If there were open borders, then interdictions and apprehensions would be down to zero, and there would be no deportations. Instead, all of those are up under Biden.

+1 And a lot of democrats have been calling for a LONG time to fix our immigration system so that instead of having lots of people sneaking into the country for jobs or to escape political unrest we could have processes in place that would allow people in on work visas and keep track of them and also place reasonable limits on how many come in at once.

A huge part of what is broken with our immigration system is that a lot of illegal immigration should actually just be legal and controlled. And if you do that then you can actually take advantage of what is great about immigration while also controlling what can be bad about it.

But whenever we try to address this issue we get locked in a debate with people who just hate immigrants. If the Immigration bill had passed it would have made some strides in this direction but it got shut down by Trumpers in Congress (after they'd supported it!) even though it included tons of provisions for limiting and controlling immigration.

Trump and his party don't actually want to solve the immigration crisis. They want to use it get people to vote for them. They love the crowds of migrants at the border because they can turn them into a bogeyman to scare people with. Once you actually talk about solving the problem they get bored.

Democrats are NOT in favor of "open borders" and all the crap that Republicans claim. Democrats want reforms to fix a lot of the problems. Remember, it was Trump's loyalists in Congress who shut down the Bipartisan Border Bill and then lied about it claiming it was a bad bill when in fact it addressed many things their own House bill didn't.

Democrats want solutions. Republicans just want to grandstand on the problem and hurl blame everywhere without actually fixing it.

Any Republican voting for Republicans because they think they have the answers and will fix it are kidding themselves. That's already been proven.

This is absolute BS. The first thing Biden did in office was open up the border with executive orders. He was open about it at the time. Harris insisted the border was secure. Stop trying to rewrite history because your candidate is tacking to the center to try to garner votes.

https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/vice-president-kamal-harris-under-fire-for-saying-the-border-is-secure-mark-morgan-united-states-customs-order-protection-immigration-migrants-joe-biden

https://www.nilc.org/resources/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/

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These twits really do think no one will call them out on their lies.

Point out the part about open borders.

Well, let's see, the Dems are so desperate to not lose because of this border issue, that they repeatedly point to the recent bill, which ALLOWS 5,000 illegal immigrants a day before measures are taken. Sounds pretty open to me, and also proves at the same time that they can stop the flow when they want to.

This isn't true at all. Do you genuinely just get your news from Trump's Twitter account?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/does-new-immigration-bill-5000-illegal-border-crossings-per-day-rcna136656

From your article, which you may want to read:

"Under the new immigration bill, the Department of Homeland Security could close the border if too many migrants were showing up with asylum claims. After negotiators conferred with the Border Patrol and officials at the Department of Homeland Security, they crafted the legislation to give DHS the authority to close the border if they reached a seven-day average of 4,000 or more border encounters. A seven-day average of 5,000 or more would mandate a border closure. If the number exceeded 8,500 in a single day, there would also be a mandatory border closure."

Biden/Harris/Mayorkas would not activate that provision. It is just a talking point, along with a restriction not to close prior to that level.

I'm just looking for information about the US having an open border. Where is that?

[Anonymous]

I am French, and our far-right often talks about returning France to the true French people. Every white supremacist group in every country says that.

Since the French were invaded by the Nazis and lived through a terrible period when some were Resistants and some were Collaborators, we KNOW what that phrase means.

It means that only the white and Aryan are the true French, or Americans, as the case may be. Only the Christians (of the right denomination, possibly).

They don't tell you now, because they want everyone to vote for them. The candidates (Trump, or Marine Le Pen) make sure to have a token Black or Arab or Jew prominently in their entourage. But if they ever get to power... they will start peeling away the people they see as inferior. All the people of color. All the non-heterosexuals. All the non-Christian religions.

Just like the Nazis did. If that's OK with you, then you are a White Supremacist too.

[Anonymous]

Fascism takes many forms, Hitler was just one. This is fascism.