Trump's Madison Square Garden rally

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Folks I am watching this thing live and it's just weird. I don't mean that people are saying things I disagree with -- that's a given. The vibe is off. It doesn't feel good. It doesn't feel like enthusiasm. It feels like blind rage mixed with fake bravado. It just feels aggro. And the crowd isn't just mostly white -- it is dominated by men. Like by a lot. It's weird to have a political rally that is this skewed.

A lot of the speakers have really extensive and weird looking plastic surgery. And not just the women or the Trumps. Tucker looks pinched and tucked in an uncomfortable way. Elon looks like an alien. It's uncanny valley stuff. If it was 1998 and you saw footage of this you'd be like "what is wrong with their faces -- why would anyone do this."

Regarding the "substance" they just repeat the same easily disproven lies over and over. A key talking point is that "they" tried to kill Trump. The implication is that of course the Democrats did it but he was shot at by a registered Republican with mental health issues.

The racism isn't just dog whistles. It's just open and contemptuous. They are saying that democrats are trying to "replace" Americans with immigrants. The comedian with all the racist lines was egregious but it's in line with the rest of the rally. They use words like "invasion" and "lowlifes" to describe immigrants and people who live in cities (while also praising NYC and claiming Trump "made" the city). It's very creepy.

Anyway Trump is talking now and he has less energy than most of the speakers who preceded him. He speaks in this dull monotone. The only person less convincing was melania who appeared to read her speech without comprehending it.

I just don't understand what is compelling about this unless you've just given up on life. It's offensive yes. But it's also just a bummer and extremely depressing.

I’m an immigrant and I’m not for open boarders. But how any immigrant could vote for Trump, esp. us non Anglo ones, baffles me. The writing is on the wall. He means you too, people. Is it denial? Leopards Ate My Face syndrome incoming for these people…

No one is for open borders. If there were open borders, then interdictions and apprehensions would be down to zero, and there would be no deportations. Instead, all of those are up under Biden.

+1 And a lot of democrats have been calling for a LONG time to fix our immigration system so that instead of having lots of people sneaking into the country for jobs or to escape political unrest we could have processes in place that would allow people in on work visas and keep track of them and also place reasonable limits on how many come in at once.

A huge part of what is broken with our immigration system is that a lot of illegal immigration should actually just be legal and controlled. And if you do that then you can actually take advantage of what is great about immigration while also controlling what can be bad about it.

But whenever we try to address this issue we get locked in a debate with people who just hate immigrants. If the Immigration bill had passed it would have made some strides in this direction but it got shut down by Trumpers in Congress (after they'd supported it!) even though it included tons of provisions for limiting and controlling immigration.

Trump and his party don't actually want to solve the immigration crisis. They want to use it get people to vote for them. They love the crowds of migrants at the border because they can turn them into a bogeyman to scare people with. Once you actually talk about solving the problem they get bored.

Democrats are NOT in favor of "open borders" and all the crap that Republicans claim. Democrats want reforms to fix a lot of the problems. Remember, it was Trump's loyalists in Congress who shut down the Bipartisan Border Bill and then lied about it claiming it was a bad bill when in fact it addressed many things their own House bill didn't.

Democrats want solutions. Republicans just want to grandstand on the problem and hurl blame everywhere without actually fixing it.

Any Republican voting for Republicans because they think they have the answers and will fix it are kidding themselves. That's already been proven.

This is absolute BS. The first thing Biden did in office was open up the border with executive orders. He was open about it at the time. Harris insisted the border was secure. Stop trying to rewrite history because your candidate is tacking to the center to try to garner votes.

https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/vice-president-kamal-harris-under-fire-for-saying-the-border-is-secure-mark-morgan-united-states-customs-order-protection-immigration-migrants-joe-biden

https://www.nilc.org/resources/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/

+100
These twits really do think no one will call them out on their lies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MAGA gas lighting is going strong.

They are the reincarnated American Nazi Party and their encore rally 80 years later at MSG is a dog whistle at the volume of a fog horn reminding everyone of this.

The anti-American fascist scum on this board know this. Fascism isn’t an accident of the MAGA movement, it’s the whole point.

When you hear progressives yelling “Nazi”, understand that their real anger is that there is any political debate at all. The nazi line is just an attempt to shut down debate. Sorry, this is America, and there are going to be people with opinions you disagree with. Sometimes they put on huge and awesome rallies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Folks I am watching this thing live and it's just weird. I don't mean that people are saying things I disagree with -- that's a given. The vibe is off. It doesn't feel good. It doesn't feel like enthusiasm. It feels like blind rage mixed with fake bravado. It just feels aggro. And the crowd isn't just mostly white -- it is dominated by men. Like by a lot. It's weird to have a political rally that is this skewed.

A lot of the speakers have really extensive and weird looking plastic surgery. And not just the women or the Trumps. Tucker looks pinched and tucked in an uncomfortable way. Elon looks like an alien. It's uncanny valley stuff. If it was 1998 and you saw footage of this you'd be like "what is wrong with their faces -- why would anyone do this."

Regarding the "substance" they just repeat the same easily disproven lies over and over. A key talking point is that "they" tried to kill Trump. The implication is that of course the Democrats did it but he was shot at by a registered Republican with mental health issues.

The racism isn't just dog whistles. It's just open and contemptuous. They are saying that democrats are trying to "replace" Americans with immigrants. The comedian with all the racist lines was egregious but it's in line with the rest of the rally. They use words like "invasion" and "lowlifes" to describe immigrants and people who live in cities (while also praising NYC and claiming Trump "made" the city). It's very creepy.

Anyway Trump is talking now and he has less energy than most of the speakers who preceded him. He speaks in this dull monotone. The only person less convincing was melania who appeared to read her speech without comprehending it.

I just don't understand what is compelling about this unless you've just given up on life. It's offensive yes. But it's also just a bummer and extremely depressing.

I’m an immigrant and I’m not for open boarders. But how any immigrant could vote for Trump, esp. us non Anglo ones, baffles me. The writing is on the wall. He means you too, people. Is it denial? Leopards Ate My Face syndrome incoming for these people…

No one is for open borders. If there were open borders, then interdictions and apprehensions would be down to zero, and there would be no deportations. Instead, all of those are up under Biden.

+1 And a lot of democrats have been calling for a LONG time to fix our immigration system so that instead of having lots of people sneaking into the country for jobs or to escape political unrest we could have processes in place that would allow people in on work visas and keep track of them and also place reasonable limits on how many come in at once.

A huge part of what is broken with our immigration system is that a lot of illegal immigration should actually just be legal and controlled. And if you do that then you can actually take advantage of what is great about immigration while also controlling what can be bad about it.

But whenever we try to address this issue we get locked in a debate with people who just hate immigrants. If the Immigration bill had passed it would have made some strides in this direction but it got shut down by Trumpers in Congress (after they'd supported it!) even though it included tons of provisions for limiting and controlling immigration.

Trump and his party don't actually want to solve the immigration crisis. They want to use it get people to vote for them. They love the crowds of migrants at the border because they can turn them into a bogeyman to scare people with. Once you actually talk about solving the problem they get bored.

Democrats are NOT in favor of "open borders" and all the crap that Republicans claim. Democrats want reforms to fix a lot of the problems. Remember, it was Trump's loyalists in Congress who shut down the Bipartisan Border Bill and then lied about it claiming it was a bad bill when in fact it addressed many things their own House bill didn't.

Democrats want solutions. Republicans just want to grandstand on the problem and hurl blame everywhere without actually fixing it.

Any Republican voting for Republicans because they think they have the answers and will fix it are kidding themselves. That's already been proven.

This is absolute BS. The first thing Biden did in office was open up the border with executive orders. He was open about it at the time. Harris insisted the border was secure. Stop trying to rewrite history because your candidate is tacking to the center to try to garner votes.

https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/vice-president-kamal-harris-under-fire-for-saying-the-border-is-secure-mark-morgan-united-states-customs-order-protection-immigration-migrants-joe-biden

https://www.nilc.org/resources/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/

+100
These twits really do think no one will call them out on their lies.

Point out the part about open borders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This may be my favorite thread on DCUM, which is saying something. The liberal bubble never ceases to amaze me. The pearl clutching is fantastic entertainment -- Nazi, Nazi, Nazi! (Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!)

Just a bunch of Karens who need to step away from the ledge and touch some grass. Inject this right into my veins!

Gaslighting bullshit.

Trump had a fascist rally. That’s what it was. Stop playing games.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:um,

Maybe puerto rico should become a state to vote

They’ve voted in favor of that several times. Call your Republican Congress members and ask them why they aren’t a state yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA gas lighting is going strong.

They are the reincarnated American Nazi Party and their encore rally 80 years later at MSG is a dog whistle at the volume of a fog horn reminding everyone of this.

The anti-American fascist scum on this board know this. Fascism isn’t an accident of the MAGA movement, it’s the whole point.

When you hear progressives yelling “Nazi”, understand that their real anger is that there is any political debate at all. The nazi line is just an attempt to shut down debate. Sorry, this is America, and there are going to be people with opinions you disagree with. Sometimes they put on huge and awesome rallies.

And sometimes they put on huge rallies to demonstrably showcase their hatred of all others. For example, Trump and team just put on one of those.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This may be my favorite thread on DCUM, which is saying something. The liberal bubble never ceases to amaze me. The pearl clutching is fantastic entertainment -- Nazi, Nazi, Nazi! (Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!)

Just a bunch of Karens who need to step away from the ledge and touch some grass. Inject this right into my veins!

You sound like you may be doomed to repeat history class
Here's a description of the beginning of the actual 1939 Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden:

The rally began at 8 pm[3] with a rendition of "The Star-Spangled Banner", sung by Margarete Rittershaush. Next, James Wheeler-Hill, national secretary of the Bund, opened the night with the statement that "if George Washington were alive today, he would be friends with Adolf Hitler."[9] Calling upon his fellow Americans, Wheller-Hill challenged Bund members to restore America to the 'True Americans' while condemning President Franklin D. Roosevelt's Secretary of the Interior, Harold L. Ickes for attacking Nazi officials.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939_Nazi_rally_at_Madison_Square_Garden

I know this may not register in your echo chamber, but I am not worried about Trump wanting to take over the world and exterminate a race of people. Sorry, I live in reality. It is almost like Trump has already been President, and didn't try to kill anyone or start any wars (quite the opposite). And I thought many liberals believe Israel is committing genoicide, yet Harris supports Israel right now. So, hmm, who is the real Hitler?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA gas lighting is going strong.

They are the reincarnated American Nazi Party and their encore rally 80 years later at MSG is a dog whistle at the volume of a fog horn reminding everyone of this.

The anti-American fascist scum on this board know this. Fascism isn’t an accident of the MAGA movement, it’s the whole point.

When you hear progressives yelling “Nazi”, understand that their real anger is that there is any political debate at all. The nazi line is just an attempt to shut down debate. Sorry, this is America, and there are going to be people with opinions you disagree with. Sometimes they put on huge and awesome rallies.

Nitwit. It’s the fascism that’s the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Folks I am watching this thing live and it's just weird. I don't mean that people are saying things I disagree with -- that's a given. The vibe is off. It doesn't feel good. It doesn't feel like enthusiasm. It feels like blind rage mixed with fake bravado. It just feels aggro. And the crowd isn't just mostly white -- it is dominated by men. Like by a lot. It's weird to have a political rally that is this skewed.

A lot of the speakers have really extensive and weird looking plastic surgery. And not just the women or the Trumps. Tucker looks pinched and tucked in an uncomfortable way. Elon looks like an alien. It's uncanny valley stuff. If it was 1998 and you saw footage of this you'd be like "what is wrong with their faces -- why would anyone do this."

Regarding the "substance" they just repeat the same easily disproven lies over and over. A key talking point is that "they" tried to kill Trump. The implication is that of course the Democrats did it but he was shot at by a registered Republican with mental health issues.

The racism isn't just dog whistles. It's just open and contemptuous. They are saying that democrats are trying to "replace" Americans with immigrants. The comedian with all the racist lines was egregious but it's in line with the rest of the rally. They use words like "invasion" and "lowlifes" to describe immigrants and people who live in cities (while also praising NYC and claiming Trump "made" the city). It's very creepy.

Anyway Trump is talking now and he has less energy than most of the speakers who preceded him. He speaks in this dull monotone. The only person less convincing was melania who appeared to read her speech without comprehending it.

I just don't understand what is compelling about this unless you've just given up on life. It's offensive yes. But it's also just a bummer and extremely depressing.

I’m an immigrant and I’m not for open boarders. But how any immigrant could vote for Trump, esp. us non Anglo ones, baffles me. The writing is on the wall. He means you too, people. Is it denial? Leopards Ate My Face syndrome incoming for these people…

No one is for open borders. If there were open borders, then interdictions and apprehensions would be down to zero, and there would be no deportations. Instead, all of those are up under Biden.

+1 And a lot of democrats have been calling for a LONG time to fix our immigration system so that instead of having lots of people sneaking into the country for jobs or to escape political unrest we could have processes in place that would allow people in on work visas and keep track of them and also place reasonable limits on how many come in at once.

A huge part of what is broken with our immigration system is that a lot of illegal immigration should actually just be legal and controlled. And if you do that then you can actually take advantage of what is great about immigration while also controlling what can be bad about it.

But whenever we try to address this issue we get locked in a debate with people who just hate immigrants. If the Immigration bill had passed it would have made some strides in this direction but it got shut down by Trumpers in Congress (after they'd supported it!) even though it included tons of provisions for limiting and controlling immigration.

Trump and his party don't actually want to solve the immigration crisis. They want to use it get people to vote for them. They love the crowds of migrants at the border because they can turn them into a bogeyman to scare people with. Once you actually talk about solving the problem they get bored.

Democrats are NOT in favor of "open borders" and all the crap that Republicans claim. Democrats want reforms to fix a lot of the problems. Remember, it was Trump's loyalists in Congress who shut down the Bipartisan Border Bill and then lied about it claiming it was a bad bill when in fact it addressed many things their own House bill didn't.

Democrats want solutions. Republicans just want to grandstand on the problem and hurl blame everywhere without actually fixing it.

Any Republican voting for Republicans because they think they have the answers and will fix it are kidding themselves. That's already been proven.

This is absolute BS. The first thing Biden did in office was open up the border with executive orders. He was open about it at the time. Harris insisted the border was secure. Stop trying to rewrite history because your candidate is tacking to the center to try to garner votes.

https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/vice-president-kamal-harris-under-fire-for-saying-the-border-is-secure-mark-morgan-united-states-customs-order-protection-immigration-migrants-joe-biden

https://www.nilc.org/resources/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/

+100
These twits really do think no one will call them out on their lies.

Point out the part about open borders.

Well, let's see, the Dems are so desperate to not lose because of this border issue, that they repeatedly point to the recent bill, which ALLOWS 5,000 illegal immigrants a day before measures are taken. Sounds pretty open to me, and also proves at the same time that they can stop the flow when they want to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MAGA gas lighting is going strong.

They are the reincarnated American Nazi Party and their encore rally 80 years later at MSG is a dog whistle at the volume of a fog horn reminding everyone of this.

The anti-American fascist scum on this board know this. Fascism isn’t an accident of the MAGA movement, it’s the whole point.

When you hear progressives yelling “Nazi”, understand that their real anger is that there is any political debate at all. The nazi line is just an attempt to shut down debate. Sorry, this is America, and there are going to be people with opinions you disagree with. Sometimes they put on huge and awesome rallies.

Nitwit. It’s the fascism that’s the problem.

I agree that it was a problem eighty years ago.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t see swastikas but there were lots of Israeli flags at this “nazi” rally. The left needs better more refined narratives IMO.

the only reason the right likes Israel is for The Rapture, the Evangelical myth about the end of times and the rise of Jesus.

Oh, it's you again. The ignorant liberal who thinks she knows anything at all about Republican support for Israel and Jews. They are our ALLY, dumba$$.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I guess a live painter is better than a dead painter?



But seriously, what’s with the utter lack of House candidates on this list besides Stefanik? Does Trump think they’re all going to lose (many will) or do they not want to associate themselves with Trump (too late)? There’s also a Trumpy Republican running for Senate against Gillibrand who won’t be there.

Here’s one of the Trumpy New York Republican House candidates who wasn’t at the rally

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Folks I am watching this thing live and it's just weird. I don't mean that people are saying things I disagree with -- that's a given. The vibe is off. It doesn't feel good. It doesn't feel like enthusiasm. It feels like blind rage mixed with fake bravado. It just feels aggro. And the crowd isn't just mostly white -- it is dominated by men. Like by a lot. It's weird to have a political rally that is this skewed.

A lot of the speakers have really extensive and weird looking plastic surgery. And not just the women or the Trumps. Tucker looks pinched and tucked in an uncomfortable way. Elon looks like an alien. It's uncanny valley stuff. If it was 1998 and you saw footage of this you'd be like "what is wrong with their faces -- why would anyone do this."

Regarding the "substance" they just repeat the same easily disproven lies over and over. A key talking point is that "they" tried to kill Trump. The implication is that of course the Democrats did it but he was shot at by a registered Republican with mental health issues.

The racism isn't just dog whistles. It's just open and contemptuous. They are saying that democrats are trying to "replace" Americans with immigrants. The comedian with all the racist lines was egregious but it's in line with the rest of the rally. They use words like "invasion" and "lowlifes" to describe immigrants and people who live in cities (while also praising NYC and claiming Trump "made" the city). It's very creepy.

Anyway Trump is talking now and he has less energy than most of the speakers who preceded him. He speaks in this dull monotone. The only person less convincing was melania who appeared to read her speech without comprehending it.

I just don't understand what is compelling about this unless you've just given up on life. It's offensive yes. But it's also just a bummer and extremely depressing.

I’m an immigrant and I’m not for open boarders. But how any immigrant could vote for Trump, esp. us non Anglo ones, baffles me. The writing is on the wall. He means you too, people. Is it denial? Leopards Ate My Face syndrome incoming for these people…

No one is for open borders. If there were open borders, then interdictions and apprehensions would be down to zero, and there would be no deportations. Instead, all of those are up under Biden.

+1 And a lot of democrats have been calling for a LONG time to fix our immigration system so that instead of having lots of people sneaking into the country for jobs or to escape political unrest we could have processes in place that would allow people in on work visas and keep track of them and also place reasonable limits on how many come in at once.

A huge part of what is broken with our immigration system is that a lot of illegal immigration should actually just be legal and controlled. And if you do that then you can actually take advantage of what is great about immigration while also controlling what can be bad about it.

But whenever we try to address this issue we get locked in a debate with people who just hate immigrants. If the Immigration bill had passed it would have made some strides in this direction but it got shut down by Trumpers in Congress (after they'd supported it!) even though it included tons of provisions for limiting and controlling immigration.

Trump and his party don't actually want to solve the immigration crisis. They want to use it get people to vote for them. They love the crowds of migrants at the border because they can turn them into a bogeyman to scare people with. Once you actually talk about solving the problem they get bored.

Democrats are NOT in favor of "open borders" and all the crap that Republicans claim. Democrats want reforms to fix a lot of the problems. Remember, it was Trump's loyalists in Congress who shut down the Bipartisan Border Bill and then lied about it claiming it was a bad bill when in fact it addressed many things their own House bill didn't.

Democrats want solutions. Republicans just want to grandstand on the problem and hurl blame everywhere without actually fixing it.

Any Republican voting for Republicans because they think they have the answers and will fix it are kidding themselves. That's already been proven.

This is absolute BS. The first thing Biden did in office was open up the border with executive orders. He was open about it at the time. Harris insisted the border was secure. Stop trying to rewrite history because your candidate is tacking to the center to try to garner votes.

https://cbsaustin.com/amp/news/nation-world/vice-president-kamal-harris-under-fire-for-saying-the-border-is-secure-mark-morgan-united-states-customs-order-protection-immigration-migrants-joe-biden

https://www.nilc.org/resources/biden-administration-day-one-immigration-actions/

+100
These twits really do think no one will call them out on their lies.

Point out the part about open borders.

Well, let's see, the Dems are so desperate to not lose because of this border issue, that they repeatedly point to the recent bill, which ALLOWS 5,000 illegal immigrants a day before measures are taken. Sounds pretty open to me, and also proves at the same time that they can stop the flow when they want to.

This isn't true at all. Do you genuinely just get your news from Trump's Twitter account?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/does-new-immigration-bill-5000-illegal-border-crossings-per-day-rcna136656

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn’t see swastikas but there were lots of Israeli flags at this “nazi” rally. The left needs better more refined narratives IMO.

the only reason the right likes Israel is for The Rapture, the Evangelical myth about the end of times and the rise of Jesus.

Or maybe there were actual Jewish people attending the rally because they like Trump. Like the Holocaust survivor that was in attendance tonight.

+1
The PP is so obviously low-information. Just plain stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This may be my favorite thread on DCUM, which is saying something. The liberal bubble never ceases to amaze me. The pearl clutching is fantastic entertainment -- Nazi, Nazi, Nazi! (Marsha, Marsha, Marsha!)

Just a bunch of Karens who need to step away from the ledge and touch some grass. Inject this right into my veins!

You sound like you may be doomed to repeat history class
Here's a description of the beginning of the actual 1939 Nazi rally in Madison Square Garden:

The rally began at 8 pm[3] with a rendition of "The Star-Spangled Banner", sung by Margarete Rittershaush. Next, James Wheeler-Hill, national secretary of the Bund, opened the night with the statement that "if George Washington were alive today, he would be friends with Adolf Hitler."[9] Calling upon his fellow Americans, Wheller-Hill challenged Bund members to restore America to the 'True Americans' while condemning President Franklin D. Roosevelt's Secretary of the Interior, Harold L. Ickes for attacking Nazi officials.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939_Nazi_rally_at_Madison_Square_Garden

I know this may not register in your echo chamber, but I am not worried about Trump wanting to take over the world and exterminate a race of people. Sorry, I live in reality. It is almost like Trump has already been President, and didn't try to kill anyone or start any wars (quite the opposite). And I thought many liberals believe Israel is committing genoicide, yet Harris supports Israel right now. So, hmm, who is the real Hitler?

Wait until you find out that Trump supports Israel now too.