We need massively stepped up criminal enforcement and convictions in DC

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with the OP, we need to dig deeper into a lot of these youth to see how we can support them as a society. The recurring same policies and tactics are no longer working and therefore we cannot keep asking why longer-harsher prison sentences are not working. We need to work on a new revolutionary idea in criminal enforcement. Broken children become broken adults when coupled with generational trauma.

There is enough money in DC, but not enough social workers.

No, that’s not it. Harsh sentences absolutely do work, they just have to be consistently enforced. Have you been in Singapore?
Of course, it should be a multi-pronged approach. Consistent enforcement is just one aspect, and that must include the adults around these kids.

I heard a social worker on the radio this morning lamenting that he’s visited the kids’ homes who are repeatedly stealing cars and engaging in criminal activities.
His complaint: There were drugs in the home, and no food in the fridge.

Children are stealing because they are hungry and in need, in order to be removed we need more social workers and we need to pay social workers well. This is truly tragic. I cannot imagine what is like for a starving child to need to commit crime in order to survive. Yes, we need wrap around services, it seems like the parents of these children are on drugs. Hence, why we have kids out in the streets targeting people. Drugged out parents are trying to escape some problem. This is really sad.

The kids typically go for joyrides and dump the car, they are not stealing bread and milk.

[Anonymous]

How horrific. The poor victims.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with the OP, we need to dig deeper into a lot of these youth to see how we can support them as a society. The recurring same policies and tactics are no longer working and therefore we cannot keep asking why longer-harsher prison sentences are not working. We need to work on a new revolutionary idea in criminal enforcement. Broken children become broken adults when coupled with generational trauma.

There is enough money in DC, but not enough social workers.

No, that’s not it. Harsh sentences absolutely do work, they just have to be consistently enforced. Have you been in Singapore?
Of course, it should be a multi-pronged approach. Consistent enforcement is just one aspect, and that must include the adults around these kids.

I heard a social worker on the radio this morning lamenting that he’s visited the kids’ homes who are repeatedly stealing cars and engaging in criminal activities.
His complaint: There were drugs in the home, and no food in the fridge.

Children are stealing because they are hungry and in need, in order to be removed we need more social workers and we need to pay social workers well. This is truly tragic. I cannot imagine what is like for a starving child to need to commit crime in order to survive. Yes, we need wrap around services, it seems like the parents of these children are on drugs. Hence, why we have kids out in the streets targeting people. Drugged out parents are trying to escape some problem. This is really sad.

What is the solution you propose then, PP? Removal of a generation as Canada did with native children? Forced sterilization? The parents of these kids are the grandchildren of the crack babies. Generations of drug exposure, minimal at best parenting in many cases, no one working in a legit job, no one emotionally regulated is the reality for many. Some are being raised by a struggling young grandparent. So, what do you propose now? Having that social worker visit wasn't a magic wand, was it. The kids have housing, EBT, free metro cards, free school, free healthcare. They may not have functional adults in their lives but after providing the basics society doesn't have a lot of appealing cards to play.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chilling details, the man shot near the convention center, in critical condition, was waiting in a car to pick his wife up from work.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/01/30/carjacking-dc-man-killed/

Describing the first shooting scene, near Mount Vernon Square, a woman who walked by moments after the attack, still in daylight, said she saw the victim, in a dress shirt and sweater, sprawled on the pavement with one foot still in the passenger’s side of a car. His right hand was twitching as blood pooled around his head.

The witness, Yolanda Douglas, 39, said a woman ran out of a K Street office building, screaming, “Oh, my God, that’s my husband.” Douglas said the woman ran toward her husband and grabbed his hand. “What happened?” she asked, but he did not respond.

Absolutely horrific.

I couldn’t help but also read the “Carjacking tips by police”, and other than 2-3 obvious and reasonable tips (“be aware of your surroundings”, “park in well lit areas”), they are a bunch of nonsense (“always drive in the center lane”?! “Don’t sit in an idling car” - dont stop at a traffic light will be next! “don’t drive alone” “give up your car”)

[Anonymous]

The shooters in Dupont today and yesterday on K st were not kids. They were grown men. Most likely with a record. This violence is not about poor hungry kids. It’s about mentally ill people and sociopaths emboldened by the lawlessness in this city.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I don't agree with the OP, we need to dig deeper into a lot of these youth to see how we can support them as a society. The recurring same policies and tactics are no longer working and therefore we cannot keep asking why longer-harsher prison sentences are not working. We need to work on a new revolutionary idea in criminal enforcement. Broken children become broken adults when coupled with generational trauma.

There is enough money in DC, but not enough social workers.


No, that’s not it. Harsh sentences absolutely do work, they just have to be consistently enforced. Have you been in Singapore?
Of course, it should be a multi-pronged approach. Consistent enforcement is just one aspect, and that must include the adults around these kids.

I heard a social worker on the radio this morning lamenting that he’s visited the kids’ homes who are repeatedly stealing cars and engaging in criminal activities.
His complaint: There were drugs in the home, and no food in the fridge.

To this I would say that these youths then should be removed from these environments that are not homes.
More social workers are not going to make a difference in these situations. These kids are already eligible for free food, free healthcare, and free education.
Support systems that kids in other countries could only dream of! Yet it does not help at all, it has no positive impact. Why is that?

There are no "wrap around services" that are going to improve the lives of kids who live in the homes described above. That is a lie promoted by current child welfare policies and the progressive left. There are lots of poor people whose kids do NOT commit crimes. Those are the families for whom increased social services can make a difference. But the kids who do commit crimes, and who live in the situations described above, are only going to be helped if they are removed and put in a humane reform school environment that gives equal parts structure AND nurture.

This.

Current policies have resulted in a soaring number of dead black people in DC, many of them children. More of the same is UNACCEPTABLE. Forget doubling down so all the NGOs can feed at the public trough on the backs of dead kids.

[Anonymous]

I’m not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but a mom was with a toddler son in Kalorama Park and noticed a man staring menacingly at the kid. She tried to evade him but he followed them even after they went into a cafe, passing by numerous times. Black male, short, 20s? Probably deranged besides being a bad dude.

And my heart breaks for the young father killed in Woodridge as part of the crime spree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

There is enough money in DC, but not enough social workers.

No, that’s not it. Harsh sentences absolutely do work, they just have to be consistently enforced. Have you been in Singapore?
Of course, it should be a multi-pronged approach. Consistent enforcement is just one aspect, and that must include the adults around these kids.

I heard a social worker on the radio this morning lamenting that he’s visited the kids’ homes who are repeatedly stealing cars and engaging in criminal activities.
His complaint: There were drugs in the home, and no food in the fridge.

Children are stealing because they are hungry and in need, in order to be removed we need more social workers and we need to pay social workers well. This is truly tragic. I cannot imagine what is like for a starving child to need to commit crime in order to survive. Yes, we need wrap around services, it seems like the parents of these children are on drugs. Hence, why we have kids out in the streets targeting people. Drugged out parents are trying to escape some problem. This is really sad.

I think you are misunderstanding.
These kids are not starving.
They are not stealing food, they are stealing guns and cars.

It’s sickening to hear claims or insinuations that the mentioned youths here are starving. They are not. Regardless of an empty fridge during a social worker visit.
(I’ve worked with kids who are actually starving, believe me, they are in no condition to steal cars! We don’t have any starvation in the US - other than due to criminal level of neglect!).

The kids here already have services, social workers, teachers, and are eligible for everything - from free food to free healthcare to free education.
If they are not getting all that they are eligible for, and turning to crime, it’s due to the loser adults around them, and the result of them seeing the adults getting away with everything; from theft to abuse and neglect, to guns and drugs, etc. Yes, it is sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but a mom was with a toddler son in Kalorama Park and noticed a man staring menacingly at the kid. She tried to evade him but he followed them even after they went into a cafe, passing by numerous times. Black male, short, 20s? Probably deranged besides being a bad dude.

That is so scary. Hope they got home ok and that she reported it to MPD. Did you see that on Next Door?

[Anonymous]

This is the man shot yesterday on K Street while picking his wife up from work.

He is in critical condition.

[Anonymous]

Now people are CARRYING BABIES when they STAB someone

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with the OP, we need to dig deeper into a lot of these youth to see how we can support them as a society. The recurring same policies and tactics are no longer working and therefore we cannot keep asking why longer-harsher prison sentences are not working. We need to work on a new revolutionary idea in criminal enforcement. Broken children become broken adults when coupled with generational trauma.

There is enough money in DC, but not enough social workers.

No, that’s not it. Harsh sentences absolutely do work, they just have to be consistently enforced. Have you been in Singapore?
Of course, it should be a multi-pronged approach. Consistent enforcement is just one aspect, and that must include the adults around these kids.

I heard a social worker on the radio this morning lamenting that he’s visited the kids’ homes who are repeatedly stealing cars and engaging in criminal activities.
His complaint: There were drugs in the home, and no food in the fridge.

Children are stealing because they are hungry and in need, in order to be removed we need more social workers and we need to pay social workers well. This is truly tragic. I cannot imagine what is like for a starving child to need to commit crime in order to survive. Yes, we need wrap around services, it seems like the parents of these children are on drugs. Hence, why we have kids out in the streets targeting people. Drugged out parents are trying to escape some problem. This is really sad.

What is the solution you propose then, PP? Removal of a generation as Canada did with native children? Forced sterilization? The parents of these kids are the grandchildren of the crack babies. Generations of drug exposure, minimal at best parenting in many cases, no one working in a legit job, no one emotionally regulated is the reality for many. Some are being raised by a struggling young grandparent. So, what do you propose now? Having that social worker visit wasn't a magic wand, was it. The kids have housing, EBT, free metro cards, free school, free healthcare. They may not have functional adults in their lives but after providing the basics society doesn't have a lot of appealing cards to play.

Maybe we DC liberals shouldn't kick and scream when KIPP charter goes in the "poor neighborhoods" with a longer school day ... To basically bolster or replace parenting for all the reasons you mention above. Maybe we should have more specialized schools ..not "immersion for all" as demanded by the equity patrols. Maybe kids in the system should have to meet conditions like counseling, GED, life skills training to get out. There are quite a few appealing cards that liberals are reluctant to play, or won't play at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not sure if anyone has posted this yet, but a mom was with a toddler son in Kalorama Park and noticed a man staring menacingly at the kid. She tried to evade him but he followed them even after they went into a cafe, passing by numerous times. Black male, short, 20s? Probably deranged besides being a bad dude.

And my heart breaks for the young father killed in Woodridge as part of the crime spree.

MPD won't do anything about deranged people until they attack you. The council needs to pass laws on involuntary holds so the MPD CAN do something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't agree with the OP, we need to dig deeper into a lot of these youth to see how we can support them as a society. The recurring same policies and tactics are no longer working and therefore we cannot keep asking why longer-harsher prison sentences are not working. We need to work on a new revolutionary idea in criminal enforcement. Broken children become broken adults when coupled with generational trauma.

There is enough money in DC, but not enough social workers.

No, that’s not it. Harsh sentences absolutely do work, they just have to be consistently enforced. Have you been in Singapore?
Of course, it should be a multi-pronged approach. Consistent enforcement is just one aspect, and that must include the adults around these kids.

I heard a social worker on the radio this morning lamenting that he’s visited the kids’ homes who are repeatedly stealing cars and engaging in criminal activities.
His complaint: There were drugs in the home, and no food in the fridge.

Children are stealing because they are hungry and in need, in order to be removed we need more social workers and we need to pay social workers well. This is truly tragic. I cannot imagine what is like for a starving child to need to commit crime in order to survive. Yes, we need wrap around services, it seems like the parents of these children are on drugs. Hence, why we have kids out in the streets targeting people. Drugged out parents are trying to escape some problem. This is really sad.

What is the solution you propose then, PP? Removal of a generation as Canada did with native children? Forced sterilization? The parents of these kids are the grandchildren of the crack babies. Generations of drug exposure, minimal at best parenting in many cases, no one working in a legit job, no one emotionally regulated is the reality for many. Some are being raised by a struggling young grandparent. So, what do you propose now? Having that social worker visit wasn't a magic wand, was it. The kids have housing, EBT, free metro cards, free school, free healthcare. They may not have functional adults in their lives but after providing the basics society doesn't have a lot of appealing cards to play.

Maybe we DC liberals shouldn't kick and scream when KIPP charter goes in the "poor neighborhoods" with a longer school day ... To basically bolster or replace parenting for all the reasons you mention above. Maybe we should have more specialized schools ..not "immersion for all" as demanded by the equity patrols. Maybe kids in the system should have to meet conditions like counseling, GED, life skills training to get out. There are quite a few appealing cards that liberals are reluctant to play, or won't play at all.

+1. These decisions made to signal that you think all people need the exact same opportunities at the same time despite having very major differences in needs have actual consequences.

[Anonymous]