ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

[Anonymous]

Breath papa bear, remember its the ride not the destination that ultimately matters for you and your DC.

To answer the last question, D3 soccer opportunities at an academic schoool you might not have gotten in without the soccer hook is ultimately all that ECNL can really deliver on. This is good enough for most sheep in ECNL. Let them eat their grass and be fleeced 2-3 times a year to be "showcased" totally worth it if you alreay have the cash to pay for the hamster wheel

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Breath papa bear, remember its the ride not the destination that ultimately matters for you and your DC.

To answer the last question, D3 soccer opportunities at an academic schoool you might not have gotten in without the soccer hook is ultimately all that ECNL can really deliver on. This is good enough for most sheep in ECNL. Let them eat their grass and be fleeced 2-3 times a year to be "showcased" totally worth it if you alreay have the cash to pay for the hamster wheel

That's definitely the game, isn't it?

Take a look at the D3 Directors' Cup standings for all sports. The top 10 is Johns Hopkins, Williams, Emory, Tufts, NYU, Middlebury, MIT, Washington U, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, and Wisconsin-Whitewater. Not far behind: U. Chicago and Carnegie Mellon.

Those are some legit academic powerhouses that are not at all easy to get into. If I knew my DC would get into one of those schools by being a bench player at an ECNL team, that'd be a pretty strong incentive.

It is, of course, the journey and not the destination. One of the saddest things in youth sports is seeing kids who feel like playing U17 is a job because they're really only in it for the prestige and the college admission.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Breath papa bear, remember its the ride not the destination that ultimately matters for you and your DC.

To answer the last question, D3 soccer opportunities at an academic schoool you might not have gotten in without the soccer hook is ultimately all that ECNL can really deliver on. This is good enough for most sheep in ECNL. Let them eat their grass and be fleeced 2-3 times a year to be "showcased" totally worth it if you alreay have the cash to pay for the hamster wheel

I think that value proposition is better than what a D1 can deliver to be honest. You just made a great case why 99.99999999% of kids should play in for ECNL.

[Anonymous]

Same opportunites exsist in any league if you're going D3 so not exactly. But I agree that this is is the rationale going strong in parents heads and hard to argue with ultimately because what you can tell your friends is just as important so brands will always win out

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Actual FVU parent-- the fact that no one is talking about the club and team meetings indicates this is a giant troll thread. You guys enjoy your seasons, and let our kids enjoy theirs!

oh troll thread for sure. Dont take it to serious. Honestly all the clubs had changes and this season will be a make or break it season for multiple teams. We will pick bk up the trolling next season. For sure - not actual fvu parent

Has FVU actually played a game?

Can I call myself a former FVU parent if my daughter played for Union?

Anyway the teams will be good, but not everyone on the roster will see the field or contribute to the wins.

Only the best players will get recruited/scholarship money.

The lesser starters and players good enough to make the actual FVU bench will go D3.

FVU is basically McLean renamed (yet again).

How many players in this area actually get scholarship money?

I'm not sure people have comprehended this yet -- the DMV underproduces soccer talent relative to its population. We're not California or Texas or Atlanta or Florida.

Check this list of the top 25 ECNL clubs last year. One (1) DMV club made it -- at No. 25.

https://theecnl.com/news/2023/8/25/slammers-fc-hb-k-ge-named-ecnl-girls-2022-23-overall-club-champion-top-25-clubs-revealed.aspx

You'd think from DCUM that the DMV turned out 100 players like Julia Leas each year. We're lucky to turn out one. And maybe every 8-10 years, we turn out an Emily Fox.

If you're really, really serious about playing at the highest level, you're not worried about FVU or VDA or CDC or Virginia Valor Union United Alliance. You're moving to Dallas or LA.

If you're not, then where do you get this "oh, the bench players ONLY go D3" attitude from?

Are you mad at yourself for buying into NM’s latest scheme? Go FU or FVU or VU or whatever. I’m sorry you’re so disappointed in yourself with your bad decisions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actual FVU parent-- the fact that no one is talking about the club and team meetings indicates this is a giant troll thread. You guys enjoy your seasons, and let our kids enjoy theirs!

oh troll thread for sure. Dont take it to serious. Honestly all the clubs had changes and this season will be a make or break it season for multiple teams. We will pick bk up the trolling next season. For sure - not actual fvu parent

Has FVU actually played a game?

Can I call myself a former FVU parent if my daughter played for Union?

Anyway the teams will be good, but not everyone on the roster will see the field or contribute to the wins.

Only the best players will get recruited/scholarship money.

The lesser starters and players good enough to make the actual FVU bench will go D3.

FVU is basically McLean renamed (yet again).

How many players in this area actually get scholarship money?

I'm not sure people have comprehended this yet -- the DMV underproduces soccer talent relative to its population. We're not California or Texas or Atlanta or Florida.

Check this list of the top 25 ECNL clubs last year. One (1) DMV club made it -- at No. 25.

https://theecnl.com/news/2023/8/25/slammers-fc-hb-k-ge-named-ecnl-girls-2022-23-overall-club-champion-top-25-clubs-revealed.aspx

You'd think from DCUM that the DMV turned out 100 players like Julia Leas each year. We're lucky to turn out one. And maybe every 8-10 years, we turn out an Emily Fox.

If you're really, really serious about playing at the highest level, you're not worried about FVU or VDA or CDC or Virginia Valor Union United Alliance. You're moving to Dallas or LA.

If you're not, then where do you get this "oh, the bench players ONLY go D3" attitude from?

Many players get scholarship money.

There are no clubs in the top 25 from Florida either. No clubs from New England either.

VDA being the only DMV club in that article must sting a lot of you DCUM mommies and daddies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actual FVU parent-- the fact that no one is talking about the club and team meetings indicates this is a giant troll thread. You guys enjoy your seasons, and let our kids enjoy theirs!

oh troll thread for sure. Dont take it to serious. Honestly all the clubs had changes and this season will be a make or break it season for multiple teams. We will pick bk up the trolling next season. For sure - not actual fvu parent

Has FVU actually played a game?

Can I call myself a former FVU parent if my daughter played for Union?

Anyway the teams will be good, but not everyone on the roster will see the field or contribute to the wins.

Only the best players will get recruited/scholarship money.

The lesser starters and players good enough to make the actual FVU bench will go D3.

FVU is basically McLean renamed (yet again).

How many players in this area actually get scholarship money?

I'm not sure people have comprehended this yet -- the DMV underproduces soccer talent relative to its population. We're not California or Texas or Atlanta or Florida.

Check this list of the top 25 ECNL clubs last year. One (1) DMV club made it -- at No. 25.

https://theecnl.com/news/2023/8/25/slammers-fc-hb-k-ge-named-ecnl-girls-2022-23-overall-club-champion-top-25-clubs-revealed.aspx

You'd think from DCUM that the DMV turned out 100 players like Julia Leas each year. We're lucky to turn out one. And maybe every 8-10 years, we turn out an Emily Fox.

If you're really, really serious about playing at the highest level, you're not worried about FVU or VDA or CDC or Virginia Valor Union United Alliance. You're moving to Dallas or LA.

If you're not, then where do you get this "oh, the bench players ONLY go D3" attitude from?

Many players get scholarship money.

There are no clubs in the top 25 from Florida either. No clubs from New England either.

VDA being the only DMV club in that article must sting a lot of you DCUM mommies and daddies.

Yep, smells fishy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actual FVU parent-- the fact that no one is talking about the club and team meetings indicates this is a giant troll thread. You guys enjoy your seasons, and let our kids enjoy theirs!

oh troll thread for sure. Dont take it to serious. Honestly all the clubs had changes and this season will be a make or break it season for multiple teams. We will pick bk up the trolling next season. For sure - not actual fvu parent

Has FVU actually played a game?

Can I call myself a former FVU parent if my daughter played for Union?

Anyway the teams will be good, but not everyone on the roster will see the field or contribute to the wins.

Only the best players will get recruited/scholarship money.

The lesser starters and players good enough to make the actual FVU bench will go D3.

FVU is basically McLean renamed (yet again).

How many players in this area actually get scholarship money?

I'm not sure people have comprehended this yet -- the DMV underproduces soccer talent relative to its population. We're not California or Texas or Atlanta or Florida.

Check this list of the top 25 ECNL clubs last year. One (1) DMV club made it -- at No. 25.

https://theecnl.com/news/2023/8/25/slammers-fc-hb-k-ge-named-ecnl-girls-2022-23-overall-club-champion-top-25-clubs-revealed.aspx

You'd think from DCUM that the DMV turned out 100 players like Julia Leas each year. We're lucky to turn out one. And maybe every 8-10 years, we turn out an Emily Fox.

If you're really, really serious about playing at the highest level, you're not worried about FVU or VDA or CDC or Virginia Valor Union United Alliance. You're moving to Dallas or LA.

If you're not, then where do you get this "oh, the bench players ONLY go D3" attitude from?

Are you mad at yourself for buying into NM’s latest scheme? Go FU or FVU or VU or whatever. I’m sorry you’re so disappointed in yourself with your bad decisions.

My kids are too old for this nonsense. Happy with their college choices. Happy they don't play sports there.

[Anonymous]

Still got to hear from you though so thank you for your commitment to 400

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ECNL is not forcing Union to merge, they are telling BRAVE they will not be able to compete in ECNL in years to come unless they get stronger. They’ll lose their ECNL charter otherwise; in steps Union recognizing this and boom, merger.

May not be confirmed yet but it is out there and happening.

And yes the talent is far too diluted but there is also a lot of talent!

ECNL is telling Union and brave boys that they need to do this. Nothing to do with the girls.

For the boys side, ECNL was a great league 5 years ago. Now, MLSNext. This is the way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ECNL is not forcing Union to merge, they are telling BRAVE they will not be able to compete in ECNL in years to come unless they get stronger. They’ll lose their ECNL charter otherwise; in steps Union recognizing this and boom, merger.

May not be confirmed yet but it is out there and happening.

And yes the talent is far too diluted but there is also a lot of talent!

ECNL is telling Union and brave boys that they need to do this. Nothing to do with the girls.

For the boys side, ECNL was a great league 5 years ago. Now, MLSNext. This is the way.

I agree MLSNext dominates boys soccer.

Ok so both the Brave and Union boys teams were not great but the Brave girls teams were also not great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The ECNL is not forcing Union to merge, they are telling BRAVE they will not be able to compete in ECNL in years to come unless they get stronger. They’ll lose their ECNL charter otherwise; in steps Union recognizing this and boom, merger.

May not be confirmed yet but it is out there and happening.

And yes the talent is far too diluted but there is also a lot of talent!

ECNL is telling Union and brave boys that they need to do this. Nothing to do with the girls.

For the boys side, ECNL was a great league 5 years ago. Now, MLSNext. This is the way.

I agree MLSNext dominates boys soccer.

Ok so both the Brave and Union boys teams were not great but the Brave girls teams were also not great.

08s and 10s are in Seattle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Actual FVU parent-- the fact that no one is talking about the club and team meetings indicates this is a giant troll thread. You guys enjoy your seasons, and let our kids enjoy theirs!

oh troll thread for sure. Dont take it to serious. Honestly all the clubs had changes and this season will be a make or break it season for multiple teams. We will pick bk up the trolling next season. For sure - not actual fvu parent

Has FVU actually played a game?

Can I call myself a former FVU parent if my daughter played for Union?

Anyway the teams will be good, but not everyone on the roster will see the field or contribute to the wins.

Only the best players will get recruited/scholarship money.

The lesser starters and players good enough to make the actual FVU bench will go D3.

FVU is basically McLean renamed (yet again).

How many players in this area actually get scholarship money?

I'm not sure people have comprehended this yet -- the DMV underproduces soccer talent relative to its population. We're not California or Texas or Atlanta or Florida.

Check this list of the top 25 ECNL clubs last year. One (1) DMV club made it -- at No. 25.

https://theecnl.com/news/2023/8/25/slammers-fc-hb-k-ge-named-ecnl-girls-2022-23-overall-club-champion-top-25-clubs-revealed.aspx

You'd think from DCUM that the DMV turned out 100 players like Julia Leas each year. We're lucky to turn out one. And maybe every 8-10 years, we turn out an Emily Fox.

If you're really, really serious about playing at the highest level, you're not worried about FVU or VDA or CDC or Virginia Valor Union United Alliance. You're moving to Dallas or LA.

If you're not, then where do you get this "oh, the bench players ONLY go D3" attitude from?

Many players get scholarship money.

There are no clubs in the top 25 from Florida either. No clubs from New England either.

VDA being the only DMV club in that article must sting a lot of you DCUM mommies and daddies.

Where does this scholarship money come from?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Breath papa bear, remember its the ride not the destination that ultimately matters for you and your DC.

To answer the last question, D3 soccer opportunities at an academic schoool you might not have gotten in without the soccer hook is ultimately all that ECNL can really deliver on. This is good enough for most sheep in ECNL. Let them eat their grass and be fleeced 2-3 times a year to be "showcased" totally worth it if you alreay have the cash to pay for the hamster wheel

That's definitely the game, isn't it?

Take a look at the D3 Directors' Cup standings for all sports. The top 10 is Johns Hopkins, Williams, Emory, Tufts, NYU, Middlebury, MIT, Washington U, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, and Wisconsin-Whitewater. Not far behind: U. Chicago and Carnegie Mellon.

Those are some legit academic powerhouses that are not at all easy to get into. If I knew my DC would get into one of those schools by being a bench player at an ECNL team, that'd be a pretty strong incentive.

It is, of course, the journey and not the destination. One of the saddest things in youth sports is seeing kids who feel like playing U17 is a job because they're really only in it for the prestige and the college admission.

You can’t get into those D3 schools by being a bench player. All the schools above recruit starters who likely had D1 offers or at least serious interest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Breath papa bear, remember its the ride not the destination that ultimately matters for you and your DC.

To answer the last question, D3 soccer opportunities at an academic schoool you might not have gotten in without the soccer hook is ultimately all that ECNL can really deliver on. This is good enough for most sheep in ECNL. Let them eat their grass and be fleeced 2-3 times a year to be "showcased" totally worth it if you alreay have the cash to pay for the hamster wheel

That's definitely the game, isn't it?

Take a look at the D3 Directors' Cup standings for all sports. The top 10 is Johns Hopkins, Williams, Emory, Tufts, NYU, Middlebury, MIT, Washington U, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, and Wisconsin-Whitewater. Not far behind: U. Chicago and Carnegie Mellon.

Those are some legit academic powerhouses that are not at all easy to get into. If I knew my DC would get into one of those schools by being a bench player at an ECNL team, that'd be a pretty strong incentive.

It is, of course, the journey and not the destination. One of the saddest things in youth sports is seeing kids who feel like playing U17 is a job because they're really only in it for the prestige and the college admission.

You can’t get into those D3 schools by being a bench player. All the schools above recruit starters who likely had D1 offers or at least serious interest.

In ECNL there are different kinds of bench players: those who spend most of game on the bench but generally play at least some minutes, those who rarely come off the bench, and those who are on the roster but generally don’t even get invited to sit on the bench of an ECNL game.

I agree with the previous poster that it is getting increasingly hard to get recruited for college soccer. There is a lot of competition from the transfer portal.

It is not easy to get a spot on a top D3 roster and very few get actual offers to play at top D1s.

They will all invite you to their camps but that doesn’t mean they will make you an offer.