ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership

[Anonymous]

If you want to get recruited by a top D1 you need to be one of the most impactful players on your team.

Ask yourself is my top team winning because of me? If the answer is no than you are probably not a top recruit.

It also helps to be invited to national team camps.

[Anonymous]

10-0! wtf!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:10-0! wtf!

Where is McLean Dad when you need him?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Breath papa bear, remember its the ride not the destination that ultimately matters for you and your DC.

To answer the last question, D3 soccer opportunities at an academic schoool you might not have gotten in without the soccer hook is ultimately all that ECNL can really deliver on. This is good enough for most sheep in ECNL. Let them eat their grass and be fleeced 2-3 times a year to be "showcased" totally worth it if you alreay have the cash to pay for the hamster wheel

That's definitely the game, isn't it?

Take a look at the D3 Directors' Cup standings for all sports. The top 10 is Johns Hopkins, Williams, Emory, Tufts, NYU, Middlebury, MIT, Washington U, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, and Wisconsin-Whitewater. Not far behind: U. Chicago and Carnegie Mellon.

Those are some legit academic powerhouses that are not at all easy to get into. If I knew my DC would get into one of those schools by being a bench player at an ECNL team, that'd be a pretty strong incentive.

It is, of course, the journey and not the destination. One of the saddest things in youth sports is seeing kids who feel like playing U17 is a job because they're really only in it for the prestige and the college admission.

The D3 thing is hysterical - these dumbass parents have been paying for their kid to play travel sports for 10 or 11 years by the time they're ready for college. Figure somewhere between 5-10k a year depending on how much you've paid to travel all over the place (i.e. how big of a sucker you are).

And for so many after the D1 dreams have faded, the reward is to "commit" to a D3 school - usually NESCAC and the like - with high academics and even higher tuition. Oh, and you won't get any money. So you've spent tens and tens of thousands of dollars and now you get to pay hundreds of thousands more - all to play on a team that would lose to most D1 club teams. But the parents get to tell their friends that their kid goes to Williams or whatever. So, it was all worth it and you win, right? Right?!!?!?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:10-0! wtf!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Breath papa bear, remember its the ride not the destination that ultimately matters for you and your DC.

To answer the last question, D3 soccer opportunities at an academic schoool you might not have gotten in without the soccer hook is ultimately all that ECNL can really deliver on. This is good enough for most sheep in ECNL. Let them eat their grass and be fleeced 2-3 times a year to be "showcased" totally worth it if you alreay have the cash to pay for the hamster wheel

That's definitely the game, isn't it?

Take a look at the D3 Directors' Cup standings for all sports. The top 10 is Johns Hopkins, Williams, Emory, Tufts, NYU, Middlebury, MIT, Washington U, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, and Wisconsin-Whitewater. Not far behind: U. Chicago and Carnegie Mellon.

Those are some legit academic powerhouses that are not at all easy to get into. If I knew my DC would get into one of those schools by being a bench player at an ECNL team, that'd be a pretty strong incentive.

It is, of course, the journey and not the destination. One of the saddest things in youth sports is seeing kids who feel like playing U17 is a job because they're really only in it for the prestige and the college admission.

The D3 thing is hysterical - these dumbass parents have been paying for their kid to play travel sports for 10 or 11 years by the time they're ready for college. Figure somewhere between 5-10k a year depending on how much you've paid to travel all over the place (i.e. how big of a sucker you are).

And for so many after the D1 dreams have faded, the reward is to "commit" to a D3 school - usually NESCAC and the like - with high academics and even higher tuition. Oh, and you won't get any money. So you've spent tens and tens of thousands of dollars and now you get to pay hundreds of thousands more - all to play on a team that would lose to most D1 club teams. But the parents get to tell their friends that their kid goes to Williams or whatever. So, it was all worth it and you win, right? Right?!!?!?!

It's not about the money or the D1 commitment. What about the kids growth, socially/emotionally, physically from playing on a team. The commitment, the effort, the life skills. Win or lose the game they walk away having learned something. Why do you care what everyone else is doing? If you are this bitter and shortsighted or can't afford it, remove your kid and yourself.

[Anonymous]

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Breath papa bear, remember its the ride not the destination that ultimately matters for you and your DC.

To answer the last question, D3 soccer opportunities at an academic schoool you might not have gotten in without the soccer hook is ultimately all that ECNL can really deliver on. This is good enough for most sheep in ECNL. Let them eat their grass and be fleeced 2-3 times a year to be "showcased" totally worth it if you alreay have the cash to pay for the hamster wheel

That's definitely the game, isn't it?

Take a look at the D3 Directors' Cup standings for all sports. The top 10 is Johns Hopkins, Williams, Emory, Tufts, NYU, Middlebury, MIT, Washington U, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, and Wisconsin-Whitewater. Not far behind: U. Chicago and Carnegie Mellon.

Those are some legit academic powerhouses that are not at all easy to get into. If I knew my DC would get into one of those schools by being a bench player at an ECNL team, that'd be a pretty strong incentive.

It is, of course, the journey and not the destination. One of the saddest things in youth sports is seeing kids who feel like playing U17 is a job because they're really only in it for the prestige and the college admission.

The D3 thing is hysterical - these dumbass parents have been paying for their kid to play travel sports for 10 or 11 years by the time they're ready for college. Figure somewhere between 5-10k a year depending on how much you've paid to travel all over the place (i.e. how big of a sucker you are).

And for so many after the D1 dreams have faded, the reward is to "commit" to a D3 school - usually NESCAC and the like - with high academics and even higher tuition. Oh, and you won't get any money. So you've spent tens and tens of thousands of dollars and now you get to pay hundreds of thousands more - all to play on a team that would lose to most D1 club teams. But the parents get to tell their friends that their kid goes to Williams or whatever. So, it was all worth it and you win, right? Right?!!?!?!

It's not about the money or the D1 commitment. What about the kids growth, socially/emotionally, physically from playing on a team. The commitment, the effort, the life skills. Win or lose the game they walk away having learned something. Why do you care what everyone else is doing? If you are this bitter and shortsighted or can't afford it, remove your kid and yourself.

To be honest, we haven’t seen any life skills being built through travel soccer, with the possible exception of kids learning to deal with their overbearing, narcissistic parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Breath papa bear, remember its the ride not the destination that ultimately matters for you and your DC.

To answer the last question, D3 soccer opportunities at an academic schoool you might not have gotten in without the soccer hook is ultimately all that ECNL can really deliver on. This is good enough for most sheep in ECNL. Let them eat their grass and be fleeced 2-3 times a year to be "showcased" totally worth it if you alreay have the cash to pay for the hamster wheel

That's definitely the game, isn't it?

Take a look at the D3 Directors' Cup standings for all sports. The top 10 is Johns Hopkins, Williams, Emory, Tufts, NYU, Middlebury, MIT, Washington U, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, and Wisconsin-Whitewater. Not far behind: U. Chicago and Carnegie Mellon.

Those are some legit academic powerhouses that are not at all easy to get into. If I knew my DC would get into one of those schools by being a bench player at an ECNL team, that'd be a pretty strong incentive.

It is, of course, the journey and not the destination. One of the saddest things in youth sports is seeing kids who feel like playing U17 is a job because they're really only in it for the prestige and the college admission.

The D3 thing is hysterical - these dumbass parents have been paying for their kid to play travel sports for 10 or 11 years by the time they're ready for college. Figure somewhere between 5-10k a year depending on how much you've paid to travel all over the place (i.e. how big of a sucker you are).

And for so many after the D1 dreams have faded, the reward is to "commit" to a D3 school - usually NESCAC and the like - with high academics and even higher tuition. Oh, and you won't get any money. So you've spent tens and tens of thousands of dollars and now you get to pay hundreds of thousands more - all to play on a team that would lose to most D1 club teams. But the parents get to tell their friends that their kid goes to Williams or whatever. So, it was all worth it and you win, right? Right?!!?!?!

For the McMansioned Chad and Becky, yes, they will take that as a win. They have the HHI and 529 to pay those bills and it works out to be a pretty strong brag about their DD, Katie. In their world, in which they give zero real sh—s about the world’s game, their hierarchy of brags for post-HS Katie is something like this:
1) Playing at an ACC/SEC school
2) Attending an Ivy/NESCAC…playing not that important
3) Attending a state flagship school (UVA/UMD/Penn St/Georgia)
4) Playing D1 at a lesser known school (eg Elon, Campbell)
5) Attending a locally known ‘regular’ college (eg VCU, JMU)
6) Playing D2/D3 at a lesser known school out in the sticks (Frostburg, Bridgewater)
7) Getting pregnant by a 24 year old nicknamed ‘Lucky’

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:10-0! wtf!

But there were soooo many scouts there to watch them get blown out.

Go ECNL!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Breath papa bear, remember its the ride not the destination that ultimately matters for you and your DC.

To answer the last question, D3 soccer opportunities at an academic schoool you might not have gotten in without the soccer hook is ultimately all that ECNL can really deliver on. This is good enough for most sheep in ECNL. Let them eat their grass and be fleeced 2-3 times a year to be "showcased" totally worth it if you alreay have the cash to pay for the hamster wheel

That's definitely the game, isn't it?

Take a look at the D3 Directors' Cup standings for all sports. The top 10 is Johns Hopkins, Williams, Emory, Tufts, NYU, Middlebury, MIT, Washington U, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, and Wisconsin-Whitewater. Not far behind: U. Chicago and Carnegie Mellon.

Those are some legit academic powerhouses that are not at all easy to get into. If I knew my DC would get into one of those schools by being a bench player at an ECNL team, that'd be a pretty strong incentive.

It is, of course, the journey and not the destination. One of the saddest things in youth sports is seeing kids who feel like playing U17 is a job because they're really only in it for the prestige and the college admission.

The D3 thing is hysterical - these dumbass parents have been paying for their kid to play travel sports for 10 or 11 years by the time they're ready for college. Figure somewhere between 5-10k a year depending on how much you've paid to travel all over the place (i.e. how big of a sucker you are).

And for so many after the D1 dreams have faded, the reward is to "commit" to a D3 school - usually NESCAC and the like - with high academics and even higher tuition. Oh, and you won't get any money. So you've spent tens and tens of thousands of dollars and now you get to pay hundreds of thousands more - all to play on a team that would lose to most D1 club teams. But the parents get to tell their friends that their kid goes to Williams or whatever. So, it was all worth it and you win, right? Right?!!?!?!

For the McMansioned Chad and Becky, yes, they will take that as a win. They have the HHI and 529 to pay those bills and it works out to be a pretty strong brag about their DD, Katie. In their world, in which they give zero real sh—s about the world’s game, their hierarchy of brags for post-HS Katie is something like this:
1) Playing at an ACC/SEC school
2) Attending an Ivy/NESCAC…playing not that important
3) Attending a state flagship school (UVA/UMD/Penn St/Georgia)
4) Playing D1 at a lesser known school (eg Elon, Campbell)
5) Attending a locally known ‘regular’ college (eg VCU, JMU)
6) Playing D2/D3 at a lesser known school out in the sticks (Frostburg, Bridgewater)
7) Getting pregnant by a 24 year old nicknamed ‘Lucky’

this is the winning post-

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Breath papa bear, remember its the ride not the destination that ultimately matters for you and your DC.

To answer the last question, D3 soccer opportunities at an academic schoool you might not have gotten in without the soccer hook is ultimately all that ECNL can really deliver on. This is good enough for most sheep in ECNL. Let them eat their grass and be fleeced 2-3 times a year to be "showcased" totally worth it if you alreay have the cash to pay for the hamster wheel

That's definitely the game, isn't it?

Take a look at the D3 Directors' Cup standings for all sports. The top 10 is Johns Hopkins, Williams, Emory, Tufts, NYU, Middlebury, MIT, Washington U, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, and Wisconsin-Whitewater. Not far behind: U. Chicago and Carnegie Mellon.

Those are some legit academic powerhouses that are not at all easy to get into. If I knew my DC would get into one of those schools by being a bench player at an ECNL team, that'd be a pretty strong incentive.

It is, of course, the journey and not the destination. One of the saddest things in youth sports is seeing kids who feel like playing U17 is a job because they're really only in it for the prestige and the college admission.

The D3 thing is hysterical - these dumbass parents have been paying for their kid to play travel sports for 10 or 11 years by the time they're ready for college. Figure somewhere between 5-10k a year depending on how much you've paid to travel all over the place (i.e. how big of a sucker you are).

And for so many after the D1 dreams have faded, the reward is to "commit" to a D3 school - usually NESCAC and the like - with high academics and even higher tuition. Oh, and you won't get any money. So you've spent tens and tens of thousands of dollars and now you get to pay hundreds of thousands more - all to play on a team that would lose to most D1 club teams. But the parents get to tell their friends that their kid goes to Williams or whatever. So, it was all worth it and you win, right? Right?!!?!?!

Most parents don't have a realistic view of their own kids ability and they don't really listen to the folks that have experience with the process of kids trying to play in college. There are so many factors and every kid is different. If your daughter for example is not a super athlete, fast and great player that everyone recognizes as such...top D1 schools are our for being recruited and playing. At that point, accept reality and come up with a plan that works. I've seen some people accept the facts and pivot the plan. I've seen some throw big money at the dream and get their kid a roster spot at the top schools only to find that they will never touch a soccer field again. Most kids can't handle never playing and putting all the effort into the sport.

[Anonymous]

Might want to re-read/wrtite this one Poe. lots of syntax errors, not sure what you are trying to say

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Breath papa bear, remember its the ride not the destination that ultimately matters for you and your DC.

To answer the last question, D3 soccer opportunities at an academic schoool you might not have gotten in without the soccer hook is ultimately all that ECNL can really deliver on. This is good enough for most sheep in ECNL. Let them eat their grass and be fleeced 2-3 times a year to be "showcased" totally worth it if you alreay have the cash to pay for the hamster wheel

That's definitely the game, isn't it?

Take a look at the D3 Directors' Cup standings for all sports. The top 10 is Johns Hopkins, Williams, Emory, Tufts, NYU, Middlebury, MIT, Washington U, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, and Wisconsin-Whitewater. Not far behind: U. Chicago and Carnegie Mellon.

Those are some legit academic powerhouses that are not at all easy to get into. If I knew my DC would get into one of those schools by being a bench player at an ECNL team, that'd be a pretty strong incentive.

It is, of course, the journey and not the destination. One of the saddest things in youth sports is seeing kids who feel like playing U17 is a job because they're really only in it for the prestige and the college admission.

The D3 thing is hysterical - these dumbass parents have been paying for their kid to play travel sports for 10 or 11 years by the time they're ready for college. Figure somewhere between 5-10k a year depending on how much you've paid to travel all over the place (i.e. how big of a sucker you are).

And for so many after the D1 dreams have faded, the reward is to "commit" to a D3 school - usually NESCAC and the like - with high academics and even higher tuition. Oh, and you won't get any money. So you've spent tens and tens of thousands of dollars and now you get to pay hundreds of thousands more - all to play on a team that would lose to most D1 club teams. But the parents get to tell their friends that their kid goes to Williams or whatever. So, it was all worth it and you win, right? Right?!!?!?!

For the McMansioned Chad and Becky, yes, they will take that as a win. They have the HHI and 529 to pay those bills and it works out to be a pretty strong brag about their DD, Katie. In their world, in which they give zero real sh—s about the world’s game, their hierarchy of brags for post-HS Katie is something like this:
1) Playing at an ACC/SEC school
2) Attending an Ivy/NESCAC…playing not that important
3) Attending a state flagship school (UVA/UMD/Penn St/Georgia)
4) Playing D1 at a lesser known school (eg Elon, Campbell)
5) Attending a locally known ‘regular’ college (eg VCU, JMU)
6) Playing D2/D3 at a lesser known school out in the sticks (Frostburg, Bridgewater)
7) Getting pregnant by a 24 year old nicknamed ‘Lucky’

I'd quibble with number 2 and placing NESCAC anywhere near Ivy level. There's one NESCAC school there - Williams. The rest of elitist enclaves - Trinity, etc - formerly great schools that now struggle to attract the best students and athletes - Amherst - or just mediocre schools with enough remaining brand-name patina to convince dumb parents to overpay to send their kid there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Breath papa bear, remember its the ride not the destination that ultimately matters for you and your DC.

To answer the last question, D3 soccer opportunities at an academic schoool you might not have gotten in without the soccer hook is ultimately all that ECNL can really deliver on. This is good enough for most sheep in ECNL. Let them eat their grass and be fleeced 2-3 times a year to be "showcased" totally worth it if you alreay have the cash to pay for the hamster wheel

That's definitely the game, isn't it?

Take a look at the D3 Directors' Cup standings for all sports. The top 10 is Johns Hopkins, Williams, Emory, Tufts, NYU, Middlebury, MIT, Washington U, Claremont-Mudd-Scripps, and Wisconsin-Whitewater. Not far behind: U. Chicago and Carnegie Mellon.

Those are some legit academic powerhouses that are not at all easy to get into. If I knew my DC would get into one of those schools by being a bench player at an ECNL team, that'd be a pretty strong incentive.

It is, of course, the journey and not the destination. One of the saddest things in youth sports is seeing kids who feel like playing U17 is a job because they're really only in it for the prestige and the college admission.

The D3 thing is hysterical - these dumbass parents have been paying for their kid to play travel sports for 10 or 11 years by the time they're ready for college. Figure somewhere between 5-10k a year depending on how much you've paid to travel all over the place (i.e. how big of a sucker you are).

And for so many after the D1 dreams have faded, the reward is to "commit" to a D3 school - usually NESCAC and the like - with high academics and even higher tuition. Oh, and you won't get any money. So you've spent tens and tens of thousands of dollars and now you get to pay hundreds of thousands more - all to play on a team that would lose to most D1 club teams. But the parents get to tell their friends that their kid goes to Williams or whatever. So, it was all worth it and you win, right? Right?!!?!?!

What if it gets you into Hopkins or MIT? Or Carnegie Mellon?

Remember Operation Varsity Blues? All the celebrities spending money to fabricate their kids' athletic prowess? There's a reason for that.