Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates Part 3

[Anonymous]

OMG. I think there's a big difference between people on this thread calling out bald-faced lies that Harry and Meghan have made vs. making things up. I also see Meghan fans making a lot of things up, so it goes both ways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s a big space between love and hate. The people in the Refinery article are extreme. There are some posters here who are extreme one way or the other two. What I don’t get is being labeled a hater for pointing out that something is obviously not right with these two. They’re grown adults who went from saying how Meghan couldn’t wait to hit the ground running and Harry’s family would be the family she never had to whining about no one asking how they’re doing on a tour of the most impoverished continent in the world. Then they move into a $15M mansion in the middle of the world’s biggest crisis of our times and whine about how Harry’s dad cut them off. They’ve been caught in numerous lies (the marriage before the wedding, Archie being denied a title he was entitled to, getting the Queen’s permission to use Lilibet), hypocrites (lecturing on environmentalism, then flying private, keeping their titles, accusing the BRF of being mean and racist but naming their child after the head of the institution). Nonetheless, most of us don’t “hate” them. I couldn’t care less what happens to these two. But I don’t have any respect for them and struggle to see how any rational, objective person could have any admiration for these two.

I’m not interested in watching, reading or listening to any of their productions, podcasts or books. I’ve watched Harry grow up and feel sorry for him and sad at how lost he seems. I’m not a “hater” but I’m certainly not a fan. I think this is probably where most people fall on the spectrum.

Agree. There is something seriously wrong with those who have such cult-like blind faith and rabidly defend H&M. It's so odd and so pervasive here on DCUM I question whether these defenders aren't being paid in some way. There is no other celebrity/entertainer who has a "Fans Only" thread. Why?

I just saw this quote by Harry: “I’ve got so much I want to say about the First Amendment as I sort of understand it, but it is bonkers.”

The First Amendment. Bonkers.

The more they speak, especially with statements like this, the more they will be ridiculed. Rightfully so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.refinery29.com/en-gb/2021/06/10518195/megxit-meghan-markle-anti-fandom?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=uktweet

Thank you, PP! I hadn’t seen this article; it mirrors what’s going on in this thread.

No it doesn't. I mean, have you read these threads?

DP. I think it exactly describes the haters in this thread. People are reporting racist posts made by haters on a daily basis to Jeff, who thankfully deletes them quickly. That is exactly what the article is talking about.

Lie down with dogs, get fleas.

Most of the racist posts seem to be from the stans actually. Bashing white woman consistently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s a big space between love and hate. The people in the Refinery article are extreme. There are some posters here who are extreme one way or the other two. What I don’t get is being labeled a hater for pointing out that something is obviously not right with these two. They’re grown adults who went from saying how Meghan couldn’t wait to hit the ground running and Harry’s family would be the family she never had to whining about no one asking how they’re doing on a tour of the most impoverished continent in the world. Then they move into a $15M mansion in the middle of the world’s biggest crisis of our times and whine about how Harry’s dad cut them off. They’ve been caught in numerous lies (the marriage before the wedding, Archie being denied a title he was entitled to, getting the Queen’s permission to use Lilibet), hypocrites (lecturing on environmentalism, then flying private, keeping their titles, accusing the BRF of being mean and racist but naming their child after the head of the institution). Nonetheless, most of us don’t “hate” them. I couldn’t care less what happens to these two. But I don’t have any respect for them and struggle to see how any rational, objective person could have any admiration for these two.

I’m not interested in watching, reading or listening to any of their productions, podcasts or books. I’ve watched Harry grow up and feel sorry for him and sad at how lost he seems. I’m not a “hater” but I’m certainly not a fan. I think this is probably where most people fall on the spectrum.

I think what you write here is sane and logical. I think the reason that people like you are called haters is because of the context of the thread.

Like let’s say there is a very annoying woman at your job. She talks too much and wears very fragrant perfume and you are not a big fan. But you don’t know her that well and she’s not a murderer so you roll your eyes at her but whatever.

Then in the cafeteria a bunch of people start just railing on her, just absolutely vicious stuff. Calling her names, using pejoratives, just really over the line criticism. And they don’t stop, they go on for hours and hours. And then some other people show up and are like, dude guys you are being incredibly over the top man and hateful stop it. And then these bullies get all dramatically hurt about being called out and get into a fight with the new people. And then you walk up and are like, “I mean these jerks have a point she really wears a lot of perfume.”

Your initial dislike is fine and makes sense and is proportional to her offenses. But when you join in a mob that has clearly gone way over the edge, than you appear to co-sign the mob.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s a big space between love and hate. The people in the Refinery article are extreme. There are some posters here who are extreme one way or the other two. What I don’t get is being labeled a hater for pointing out that something is obviously not right with these two. They’re grown adults who went from saying how Meghan couldn’t wait to hit the ground running and Harry’s family would be the family she never had to whining about no one asking how they’re doing on a tour of the most impoverished continent in the world. Then they move into a $15M mansion in the middle of the world’s biggest crisis of our times and whine about how Harry’s dad cut them off. They’ve been caught in numerous lies (the marriage before the wedding, Archie being denied a title he was entitled to, getting the Queen’s permission to use Lilibet), hypocrites (lecturing on environmentalism, then flying private, keeping their titles, accusing the BRF of being mean and racist but naming their child after the head of the institution). Nonetheless, most of us don’t “hate” them. I couldn’t care less what happens to these two. But I don’t have any respect for them and struggle to see how any rational, objective person could have any admiration for these two.

I’m not interested in watching, reading or listening to any of their productions, podcasts or books. I’ve watched Harry grow up and feel sorry for him and sad at how lost he seems. I’m not a “hater” but I’m certainly not a fan. I think this is probably where most people fall on the spectrum.

Agree. There is something seriously wrong with those who have such cult-like blind faith and rabidly defend H&M. It's so odd and so pervasive here on DCUM I question whether these defenders aren't being paid in some way. There is no other celebrity/entertainer who has a "Fans Only" thread. Why?

I just saw this quote by Harry: “I’ve got so much I want to say about the First Amendment as I sort of understand it, but it is bonkers.”

The First Amendment. Bonkers.

The more they speak, especially with statements like this, the more they will be ridiculed. Rightfully so.

Because no other person has had 1000 (literally!) pages of hate filled content dedicated to them. Some people have trouble looking the other way when other people are acting like total mean girls

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s a big space between love and hate. The people in the Refinery article are extreme. There are some posters here who are extreme one way or the other two. What I don’t get is being labeled a hater for pointing out that something is obviously not right with these two. They’re grown adults who went from saying how Meghan couldn’t wait to hit the ground running and Harry’s family would be the family she never had to whining about no one asking how they’re doing on a tour of the most impoverished continent in the world. Then they move into a $15M mansion in the middle of the world’s biggest crisis of our times and whine about how Harry’s dad cut them off. They’ve been caught in numerous lies (the marriage before the wedding, Archie being denied a title he was entitled to, getting the Queen’s permission to use Lilibet), hypocrites (lecturing on environmentalism, then flying private, keeping their titles, accusing the BRF of being mean and racist but naming their child after the head of the institution). Nonetheless, most of us don’t “hate” them. I couldn’t care less what happens to these two. But I don’t have any respect for them and struggle to see how any rational, objective person could have any admiration for these two.

I’m not interested in watching, reading or listening to any of their productions, podcasts or books. I’ve watched Harry grow up and feel sorry for him and sad at how lost he seems. I’m not a “hater” but I’m certainly not a fan. I think this is probably where most people fall on the spectrum.

I think what you write here is sane and logical. I think the reason that people like you are called haters is because of the context of the thread.

Like let’s say there is a very annoying woman at your job. She talks too much and wears very fragrant perfume and you are not a big fan. But you don’t know her that well and she’s not a murderer so you roll your eyes at her but whatever.

Then in the cafeteria a bunch of people start just railing on her, just absolutely vicious stuff. Calling her names, using pejoratives, just really over the line criticism. And they don’t stop, they go on for hours and hours. And then some other people show up and are like, dude guys you are being incredibly over the top man and hateful stop it. And then these bullies get all dramatically hurt about being called out and get into a fight with the new people. And then you walk up and are like, “I mean these jerks have a point she really wears a lot of perfume.”

Your initial dislike is fine and makes sense and is proportional to her offenses. But when you join in a mob that has clearly gone way over the edge, than you appear to co-sign the mob.

Do you go into the hilaria baldwin and gwyneth paltrow threads with the same concerns? If not then you are disingenuous. People here want absolutely no criticism of markle for any reason and consistently try to shut down any discussion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s a big space between love and hate. The people in the Refinery article are extreme. There are some posters here who are extreme one way or the other two. What I don’t get is being labeled a hater for pointing out that something is obviously not right with these two. They’re grown adults who went from saying how Meghan couldn’t wait to hit the ground running and Harry’s family would be the family she never had to whining about no one asking how they’re doing on a tour of the most impoverished continent in the world. Then they move into a $15M mansion in the middle of the world’s biggest crisis of our times and whine about how Harry’s dad cut them off. They’ve been caught in numerous lies (the marriage before the wedding, Archie being denied a title he was entitled to, getting the Queen’s permission to use Lilibet), hypocrites (lecturing on environmentalism, then flying private, keeping their titles, accusing the BRF of being mean and racist but naming their child after the head of the institution). Nonetheless, most of us don’t “hate” them. I couldn’t care less what happens to these two. But I don’t have any respect for them and struggle to see how any rational, objective person could have any admiration for these two.

I’m not interested in watching, reading or listening to any of their productions, podcasts or books. I’ve watched Harry grow up and feel sorry for him and sad at how lost he seems. I’m not a “hater” but I’m certainly not a fan. I think this is probably where most people fall on the spectrum.

Agree. There is something seriously wrong with those who have such cult-like blind faith and rabidly defend H&M. It's so odd and so pervasive here on DCUM I question whether these defenders aren't being paid in some way. There is no other celebrity/entertainer who has a "Fans Only" thread. Why?

I just saw this quote by Harry: “I’ve got so much I want to say about the First Amendment as I sort of understand it, but it is bonkers.”

The First Amendment. Bonkers.

The more they speak, especially with statements like this, the more they will be ridiculed. Rightfully so.

Because no other person has had 1000 (literally!) pages of hate filled content dedicated to them. Some people have trouble looking the other way when other people are acting like total mean girls

Guess you never saw the Trump fashion thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s a big space between love and hate. The people in the Refinery article are extreme. There are some posters here who are extreme one way or the other two. What I don’t get is being labeled a hater for pointing out that something is obviously not right with these two. They’re grown adults who went from saying how Meghan couldn’t wait to hit the ground running and Harry’s family would be the family she never had to whining about no one asking how they’re doing on a tour of the most impoverished continent in the world. Then they move into a $15M mansion in the middle of the world’s biggest crisis of our times and whine about how Harry’s dad cut them off. They’ve been caught in numerous lies (the marriage before the wedding, Archie being denied a title he was entitled to, getting the Queen’s permission to use Lilibet), hypocrites (lecturing on environmentalism, then flying private, keeping their titles, accusing the BRF of being mean and racist but naming their child after the head of the institution). Nonetheless, most of us don’t “hate” them. I couldn’t care less what happens to these two. But I don’t have any respect for them and struggle to see how any rational, objective person could have any admiration for these two.

I’m not interested in watching, reading or listening to any of their productions, podcasts or books. I’ve watched Harry grow up and feel sorry for him and sad at how lost he seems. I’m not a “hater” but I’m certainly not a fan. I think this is probably where most people fall on the spectrum.

I think what you write here is sane and logical. I think the reason that people like you are called haters is because of the context of the thread.

Like let’s say there is a very annoying woman at your job. She talks too much and wears very fragrant perfume and you are not a big fan. But you don’t know her that well and she’s not a murderer so you roll your eyes at her but whatever.

Then in the cafeteria a bunch of people start just railing on her, just absolutely vicious stuff. Calling her names, using pejoratives, just really over the line criticism. And they don’t stop, they go on for hours and hours. And then some other people show up and are like, dude guys you are being incredibly over the top man and hateful stop it. And then these bullies get all dramatically hurt about being called out and get into a fight with the new people. And then you walk up and are like, “I mean these jerks have a point she really wears a lot of perfume.”

Your initial dislike is fine and makes sense and is proportional to her offenses. But when you join in a mob that has clearly gone way over the edge, than you appear to co-sign the mob.

DP. MM is an insanely wealthy and powerful woman who is besties with Oprah and Serena Williams. She’s not that one awkward lady at work.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a big space between love and hate. The people in the Refinery article are extreme. There are some posters here who are extreme one way or the other two. What I don’t get is being labeled a hater for pointing out that something is obviously not right with these two. They’re grown adults who went from saying how Meghan couldn’t wait to hit the ground running and Harry’s family would be the family she never had to whining about no one asking how they’re doing on a tour of the most impoverished continent in the world. Then they move into a $15M mansion in the middle of the world’s biggest crisis of our times and whine about how Harry’s dad cut them off. They’ve been caught in numerous lies (the marriage before the wedding, Archie being denied a title he was entitled to, getting the Queen’s permission to use Lilibet), hypocrites (lecturing on environmentalism, then flying private, keeping their titles, accusing the BRF of being mean and racist but naming their child after the head of the institution). Nonetheless, most of us don’t “hate” them. I couldn’t care less what happens to these two. But I don’t have any respect for them and struggle to see how any rational, objective person could have any admiration for these two.

I’m not interested in watching, reading or listening to any of their productions, podcasts or books. I’ve watched Harry grow up and feel sorry for him and sad at how lost he seems. I’m not a “hater” but I’m certainly not a fan. I think this is probably where most people fall on the spectrum.

Agree. There is something seriously wrong with those who have such cult-like blind faith and rabidly defend H&M. It's so odd and so pervasive here on DCUM I question whether these defenders aren't being paid in some way. There is no other celebrity/entertainer who has a "Fans Only" thread. Why?

I just saw this quote by Harry: “I’ve got so much I want to say about the First Amendment as I sort of understand it, but it is bonkers.”

The First Amendment. Bonkers.

The more they speak, especially with statements like this, the more they will be ridiculed. Rightfully so.

This^ Coordinated effort to do damage control.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s a big space between love and hate. The people in the Refinery article are extreme. There are some posters here who are extreme one way or the other two. What I don’t get is being labeled a hater for pointing out that something is obviously not right with these two. They’re grown adults who went from saying how Meghan couldn’t wait to hit the ground running and Harry’s family would be the family she never had to whining about no one asking how they’re doing on a tour of the most impoverished continent in the world. Then they move into a $15M mansion in the middle of the world’s biggest crisis of our times and whine about how Harry’s dad cut them off. They’ve been caught in numerous lies (the marriage before the wedding, Archie being denied a title he was entitled to, getting the Queen’s permission to use Lilibet), hypocrites (lecturing on environmentalism, then flying private, keeping their titles, accusing the BRF of being mean and racist but naming their child after the head of the institution). Nonetheless, most of us don’t “hate” them. I couldn’t care less what happens to these two. But I don’t have any respect for them and struggle to see how any rational, objective person could have any admiration for these two.

I’m not interested in watching, reading or listening to any of their productions, podcasts or books. I’ve watched Harry grow up and feel sorry for him and sad at how lost he seems. I’m not a “hater” but I’m certainly not a fan. I think this is probably where most people fall on the spectrum.

I think what you write here is sane and logical. I think the reason that people like you are called haters is because of the context of the thread.

Like let’s say there is a very annoying woman at your job. She talks too much and wears very fragrant perfume and you are not a big fan. But you don’t know her that well and she’s not a murderer so you roll your eyes at her but whatever.

Then in the cafeteria a bunch of people start just railing on her, just absolutely vicious stuff. Calling her names, using pejoratives, just really over the line criticism. And they don’t stop, they go on for hours and hours. And then some other people show up and are like, dude guys you are being incredibly over the top man and hateful stop it. And then these bullies get all dramatically hurt about being called out and get into a fight with the new people. And then you walk up and are like, “I mean these jerks have a point she really wears a lot of perfume.”

Your initial dislike is fine and makes sense and is proportional to her offenses. But when you join in a mob that has clearly gone way over the edge, than you appear to co-sign the mob.

Do you go into the hilaria baldwin and gwyneth paltrow threads with the same concerns? If not then you are disingenuous. People here want absolutely no criticism of markle for any reason and consistently try to shut down any discussion.

The gwyneth thread is not remotely comparable in scope.

The Hilaria one is insane, I only have enough emotional bandwidth for so much grossness though so I focus on this and the Kane show . The Hilaria one though has died down at least and was tied to a specific thing, this MM has gone on for years. But I agree that the same phenomenon is happening there and in the Chrissy teigan thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s a big space between love and hate. The people in the Refinery article are extreme. There are some posters here who are extreme one way or the other two. What I don’t get is being labeled a hater for pointing out that something is obviously not right with these two. They’re grown adults who went from saying how Meghan couldn’t wait to hit the ground running and Harry’s family would be the family she never had to whining about no one asking how they’re doing on a tour of the most impoverished continent in the world. Then they move into a $15M mansion in the middle of the world’s biggest crisis of our times and whine about how Harry’s dad cut them off. They’ve been caught in numerous lies (the marriage before the wedding, Archie being denied a title he was entitled to, getting the Queen’s permission to use Lilibet), hypocrites (lecturing on environmentalism, then flying private, keeping their titles, accusing the BRF of being mean and racist but naming their child after the head of the institution). Nonetheless, most of us don’t “hate” them. I couldn’t care less what happens to these two. But I don’t have any respect for them and struggle to see how any rational, objective person could have any admiration for these two.

I’m not interested in watching, reading or listening to any of their productions, podcasts or books. I’ve watched Harry grow up and feel sorry for him and sad at how lost he seems. I’m not a “hater” but I’m certainly not a fan. I think this is probably where most people fall on the spectrum.

I think what you write here is sane and logical. I think the reason that people like you are called haters is because of the context of the thread.

Like let’s say there is a very annoying woman at your job. She talks too much and wears very fragrant perfume and you are not a big fan. But you don’t know her that well and she’s not a murderer so you roll your eyes at her but whatever.

Then in the cafeteria a bunch of people start just railing on her, just absolutely vicious stuff. Calling her names, using pejoratives, just really over the line criticism. And they don’t stop, they go on for hours and hours. And then some other people show up and are like, dude guys you are being incredibly over the top man and hateful stop it. And then these bullies get all dramatically hurt about being called out and get into a fight with the new people. And then you walk up and are like, “I mean these jerks have a point she really wears a lot of perfume.”

Your initial dislike is fine and makes sense and is proportional to her offenses. But when you join in a mob that has clearly gone way over the edge, than you appear to co-sign the mob.

DP. MM is an insanely wealthy and powerful woman who is besties with Oprah and Serena Williams. She’s not that one awkward lady at work.

Right, and she makes Oprah's judgement look pretty bad the more lies are exposed. To the point where Oprah herself backed away saying she had no idea they were taking the interview in THAT direction (regarding Royal family bashing).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s a big space between love and hate. The people in the Refinery article are extreme. There are some posters here who are extreme one way or the other two. What I don’t get is being labeled a hater for pointing out that something is obviously not right with these two. They’re grown adults who went from saying how Meghan couldn’t wait to hit the ground running and Harry’s family would be the family she never had to whining about no one asking how they’re doing on a tour of the most impoverished continent in the world. Then they move into a $15M mansion in the middle of the world’s biggest crisis of our times and whine about how Harry’s dad cut them off. They’ve been caught in numerous lies (the marriage before the wedding, Archie being denied a title he was entitled to, getting the Queen’s permission to use Lilibet), hypocrites (lecturing on environmentalism, then flying private, keeping their titles, accusing the BRF of being mean and racist but naming their child after the head of the institution). Nonetheless, most of us don’t “hate” them. I couldn’t care less what happens to these two. But I don’t have any respect for them and struggle to see how any rational, objective person could have any admiration for these two.

I’m not interested in watching, reading or listening to any of their productions, podcasts or books. I’ve watched Harry grow up and feel sorry for him and sad at how lost he seems. I’m not a “hater” but I’m certainly not a fan. I think this is probably where most people fall on the spectrum.

Agree. There is something seriously wrong with those who have such cult-like blind faith and rabidly defend H&M. It's so odd and so pervasive here on DCUM I question whether these defenders aren't being paid in some way. There is no other celebrity/entertainer who has a "Fans Only" thread. Why?

I just saw this quote by Harry: “I’ve got so much I want to say about the First Amendment as I sort of understand it, but it is bonkers.”

The First Amendment. Bonkers.

The more they speak, especially with statements like this, the more they will be ridiculed. Rightfully so.

Because no other person has had 1000 (literally!) pages of hate filled content dedicated to them. Some people have trouble looking the other way when other people are acting like total mean girls

Guess you never saw the Trump fashion thread.

I hadn’t but just looked it up. 500 pages and about a group of women but agree, same gross phenomenon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s a big space between love and hate. The people in the Refinery article are extreme. There are some posters here who are extreme one way or the other two. What I don’t get is being labeled a hater for pointing out that something is obviously not right with these two. They’re grown adults who went from saying how Meghan couldn’t wait to hit the ground running and Harry’s family would be the family she never had to whining about no one asking how they’re doing on a tour of the most impoverished continent in the world. Then they move into a $15M mansion in the middle of the world’s biggest crisis of our times and whine about how Harry’s dad cut them off. They’ve been caught in numerous lies (the marriage before the wedding, Archie being denied a title he was entitled to, getting the Queen’s permission to use Lilibet), hypocrites (lecturing on environmentalism, then flying private, keeping their titles, accusing the BRF of being mean and racist but naming their child after the head of the institution). Nonetheless, most of us don’t “hate” them. I couldn’t care less what happens to these two. But I don’t have any respect for them and struggle to see how any rational, objective person could have any admiration for these two.

I’m not interested in watching, reading or listening to any of their productions, podcasts or books. I’ve watched Harry grow up and feel sorry for him and sad at how lost he seems. I’m not a “hater” but I’m certainly not a fan. I think this is probably where most people fall on the spectrum.

I think what you write here is sane and logical. I think the reason that people like you are called haters is because of the context of the thread.

Like let’s say there is a very annoying woman at your job. She talks too much and wears very fragrant perfume and you are not a big fan. But you don’t know her that well and she’s not a murderer so you roll your eyes at her but whatever.

Then in the cafeteria a bunch of people start just railing on her, just absolutely vicious stuff. Calling her names, using pejoratives, just really over the line criticism. And they don’t stop, they go on for hours and hours. And then some other people show up and are like, dude guys you are being incredibly over the top man and hateful stop it. And then these bullies get all dramatically hurt about being called out and get into a fight with the new people. And then you walk up and are like, “I mean these jerks have a point she really wears a lot of perfume.”

Your initial dislike is fine and makes sense and is proportional to her offenses. But when you join in a mob that has clearly gone way over the edge, than you appear to co-sign the mob.

Do you go into the hilaria baldwin and gwyneth paltrow threads with the same concerns? If not then you are disingenuous. People here want absolutely no criticism of markle for any reason and consistently try to shut down any discussion.

The gwyneth thread is not remotely comparable in scope.

The Hilaria one is insane, I only have enough emotional bandwidth for so much grossness though so I focus on this and the Kane show . The Hilaria one though has died down at least and was tied to a specific thing, this MM has gone on for years. But I agree that the same phenomenon is happening there and in the Chrissy teigan thread

With Harry and Meghan there is continuous news and happenings its not just people talking about one event for years. Leaving the royal family was a big deal. Royals trying to royal in California is totally new. There is just alwyas some new angle that gets discussed. If this was a pile on about hating her wedding dress years ago that would be bizarre.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There’s a big space between love and hate. The people in the Refinery article are extreme. There are some posters here who are extreme one way or the other two. What I don’t get is being labeled a hater for pointing out that something is obviously not right with these two. They’re grown adults who went from saying how Meghan couldn’t wait to hit the ground running and Harry’s family would be the family she never had to whining about no one asking how they’re doing on a tour of the most impoverished continent in the world. Then they move into a $15M mansion in the middle of the world’s biggest crisis of our times and whine about how Harry’s dad cut them off. They’ve been caught in numerous lies (the marriage before the wedding, Archie being denied a title he was entitled to, getting the Queen’s permission to use Lilibet), hypocrites (lecturing on environmentalism, then flying private, keeping their titles, accusing the BRF of being mean and racist but naming their child after the head of the institution). Nonetheless, most of us don’t “hate” them. I couldn’t care less what happens to these two. But I don’t have any respect for them and struggle to see how any rational, objective person could have any admiration for these two.

I’m not interested in watching, reading or listening to any of their productions, podcasts or books. I’ve watched Harry grow up and feel sorry for him and sad at how lost he seems. I’m not a “hater” but I’m certainly not a fan. I think this is probably where most people fall on the spectrum.

I think what you write here is sane and logical. I think the reason that people like you are called haters is because of the context of the thread.

Like let’s say there is a very annoying woman at your job. She talks too much and wears very fragrant perfume and you are not a big fan. But you don’t know her that well and she’s not a murderer so you roll your eyes at her but whatever.

Then in the cafeteria a bunch of people start just railing on her, just absolutely vicious stuff. Calling her names, using pejoratives, just really over the line criticism. And they don’t stop, they go on for hours and hours. And then some other people show up and are like, dude guys you are being incredibly over the top man and hateful stop it. And then these bullies get all dramatically hurt about being called out and get into a fight with the new people. And then you walk up and are like, “I mean these jerks have a point she really wears a lot of perfume.”

Your initial dislike is fine and makes sense and is proportional to her offenses. But when you join in a mob that has clearly gone way over the edge, than you appear to co-sign the mob.

Do you go into the hilaria baldwin and gwyneth paltrow threads with the same concerns? If not then you are disingenuous. People here want absolutely no criticism of markle for any reason and consistently try to shut down any discussion.

The gwyneth thread is not remotely comparable in scope.

The Hilaria one is insane, I only have enough emotional bandwidth for so much grossness though so I focus on this and the Kane show . The Hilaria one though has died down at least and was tied to a specific thing, this MM has gone on for years. But I agree that the same phenomenon is happening there and in the Chrissy teigan thread

With Harry and Meghan there is continuous news and happenings its not just people talking about one event for years. Leaving the royal family was a big deal. Royals trying to royal in California is totally new. There is just alwyas some new angle that gets discussed. If this was a pile on about hating her wedding dress years ago that would be bizarre.

The obsession with them is not proportional the amount of news they generate. And let’s be real, if you have been participating here you know there are no new angles. Just a rinse/wash/repeat cycle every time they do something about how she’s a horrible gold digger fame ho and how he’s going to eventually divorce her and the BRF is so hurt and then a bunch of people calling those people psycho haters and then something new happens and again.

The amount of interest and fame they have is unique. But of course supposedly no one cares about them and they aren’t important but they’re interesting enough to excoriate for 1000 pages on dcum.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s a big space between love and hate. The people in the Refinery article are extreme. There are some posters here who are extreme one way or the other two. What I don’t get is being labeled a hater for pointing out that something is obviously not right with these two. They’re grown adults who went from saying how Meghan couldn’t wait to hit the ground running and Harry’s family would be the family she never had to whining about no one asking how they’re doing on a tour of the most impoverished continent in the world. Then they move into a $15M mansion in the middle of the world’s biggest crisis of our times and whine about how Harry’s dad cut them off. They’ve been caught in numerous lies (the marriage before the wedding, Archie being denied a title he was entitled to, getting the Queen’s permission to use Lilibet), hypocrites (lecturing on environmentalism, then flying private, keeping their titles, accusing the BRF of being mean and racist but naming their child after the head of the institution). Nonetheless, most of us don’t “hate” them. I couldn’t care less what happens to these two. But I don’t have any respect for them and struggle to see how any rational, objective person could have any admiration for these two.

I’m not interested in watching, reading or listening to any of their productions, podcasts or books. I’ve watched Harry grow up and feel sorry for him and sad at how lost he seems. I’m not a “hater” but I’m certainly not a fan. I think this is probably where most people fall on the spectrum.

So you are only interested in what the gossip columns say about them? I’m just trying to understand what about them interest you.