$100k fee for h1-b visas coming

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So now h1b will be about skills instead of cheap, let’s see which pigs squeal first …

Unpublished but finalized: DHS has quietly rewritten the H-1B lottery.

Before this rule even hits the Federal Register, here’s what actually changes … in plain English … based directly on the final rule text (2025-23853).

1. The H-1B lottery is no longer purely random

USCIS is replacing the random lottery with a wage-weighted selection system.

Registrations are still beneficiary-based, but higher wages now get better odds.

2. Wage level determines lottery odds

Each H-1B registration is entered into the selection pool based on the offered wage:
•Wage Level IV → entered 4 times
•Wage Level III → 3 times
•Wage Level II → 2 times
•Wage Level I → 1 time

Every worker is still counted once toward the cap, but higher wages dramatically increase selection probability.

3. Employers must disclose wage details up front

During registration, employers must now submit:
•The OEWS wage level
•The SOC code
•The area of intended employment

These same details must later match the filed petition exactly.

4. USCIS can deny or revoke petitions for manipulation

USCIS explicitly adds authority to:
•Deny amended or new petitions
•Revoke approvals

If the agency believes changes were made to game the lottery (job title, location, wage level, or entity swapping).

5. Entry-level and lower-wage H-1Bs are heavily disadvantaged

DHS estimates a sharp drop in Wage Level I selections.

The rule openly acknowledges that past abuse centered on:
•Lower-paid roles
•IT staffing and outsourcing firms
•Wage suppression of U.S. workers

This rule is designed to reverse that trend.

6. The cap size does not change
•65,000 regular cap
•20,000 advanced degree cap

What changes is who wins, not how many.

7. Effective timeline
•Final rule
•Effective for FY 2027 registration season
•Applies to all cap-subject registrations after the effective date

Bottom line

This rule:
•Explicitly admits the H-1B program has been abused
•Prioritizes higher wages over volume hiring
•Makes entry-level and low-wage H-1Bs far harder to secure
•Gives USCIS stronger enforcement tools

It does not end H-1Bs, but it fundamentally reshapes who benefits from them.

Curious what people think ….does this go far enough?

public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2025-23853.pdf
'
No, it is not enough. I want H1B gone. I know what I am talking about when I talk about H1Bs, I want most Ls gone too. Plus, talk about forever students? There is a person working at Yale that studied there since 2009! She said this is perfectly normal for a religious studies and she is now a PhD student, who works there. This is just a way to circumvent the system. BS for her to be living and working in the U.S.
Plus, huge companies are now getting their would be H1bs Canadian work visas and they are working "remotely" to bypass paying the 100K.
I am confused as to why did H1B ever have this much protection to start with? You know it is almost impossible to revoke the petition? Sure, they say they revamped it but they did not truly do anything. Plus, kick the tomato picker out, but keep this fraud in? I am not joking, I am literarily seeing "companies" that are actually 1000SF space, putting in petitions for thousands of workers. Now that should be gone, and that is something at least.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now h1b will be about skills instead of cheap, let’s see which pigs squeal first …

Unpublished but finalized: DHS has quietly rewritten the H-1B lottery.

Before this rule even hits the Federal Register, here’s what actually changes … in plain English … based directly on the final rule text (2025-23853).

1. The H-1B lottery is no longer purely random

USCIS is replacing the random lottery with a wage-weighted selection system.

Registrations are still beneficiary-based, but higher wages now get better odds.

2. Wage level determines lottery odds

Each H-1B registration is entered into the selection pool based on the offered wage:
•Wage Level IV → entered 4 times
•Wage Level III → 3 times
•Wage Level II → 2 times
•Wage Level I → 1 time

Every worker is still counted once toward the cap, but higher wages dramatically increase selection probability.

3. Employers must disclose wage details up front

During registration, employers must now submit:
•The OEWS wage level
•The SOC code
•The area of intended employment

These same details must later match the filed petition exactly.

4. USCIS can deny or revoke petitions for manipulation

USCIS explicitly adds authority to:
•Deny amended or new petitions
•Revoke approvals

If the agency believes changes were made to game the lottery (job title, location, wage level, or entity swapping).

5. Entry-level and lower-wage H-1Bs are heavily disadvantaged

DHS estimates a sharp drop in Wage Level I selections.

The rule openly acknowledges that past abuse centered on:
•Lower-paid roles
•IT staffing and outsourcing firms
•Wage suppression of U.S. workers

This rule is designed to reverse that trend.

6. The cap size does not change
•65,000 regular cap
•20,000 advanced degree cap

What changes is who wins, not how many.

7. Effective timeline
•Final rule
•Effective for FY 2027 registration season
•Applies to all cap-subject registrations after the effective date

Bottom line

This rule:
•Explicitly admits the H-1B program has been abused
•Prioritizes higher wages over volume hiring
•Makes entry-level and low-wage H-1Bs far harder to secure
•Gives USCIS stronger enforcement tools

It does not end H-1Bs, but it fundamentally reshapes who benefits from them.

Curious what people think ….does this go far enough?

public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2025-23853.pdf
'
No, it is not enough. I want H1B gone. I know what I am talking about when I talk about H1Bs, I want most Ls gone too.Plus, talk about forever students? There is a person working at Yale that studied there since 2009! She said this is perfectly normal for a religious studies and she is now a PhD student, who works there. This is just a way to circumvent the system. BS for her to be living and working in the U.S.
Plus, huge companies are now getting their would be H1bs Canadian work visas and they are working "remotely" to bypass paying the 100K.
I am confused as to why did H1B ever have this much protection to start with? You know it is almost impossible to revoke the petition? Sure, they say they revamped it but they did not truly do anything. Plus, kick the tomato picker out, but keep this fraud in? I am not joking, I am literarily seeing "companies" that are actually 1000SF space, putting in petitions for thousands of workers. Now that should be gone, and that is something at least.


You write in a very self-important manner. Are you someone important we should know about? Also curious why you think that raging on an anonymous message board is going to advance your mission.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now h1b will be about skills instead of cheap, let’s see which pigs squeal first …

Unpublished but finalized: DHS has quietly rewritten the H-1B lottery.

Before this rule even hits the Federal Register, here’s what actually changes … in plain English … based directly on the final rule text (2025-23853).

1. The H-1B lottery is no longer purely random

USCIS is replacing the random lottery with a wage-weighted selection system.

Registrations are still beneficiary-based, but higher wages now get better odds.

2. Wage level determines lottery odds

Each H-1B registration is entered into the selection pool based on the offered wage:
•Wage Level IV → entered 4 times
•Wage Level III → 3 times
•Wage Level II → 2 times
•Wage Level I → 1 time

Every worker is still counted once toward the cap, but higher wages dramatically increase selection probability.

3. Employers must disclose wage details up front

During registration, employers must now submit:
•The OEWS wage level
•The SOC code
•The area of intended employment

These same details must later match the filed petition exactly.

4. USCIS can deny or revoke petitions for manipulation

USCIS explicitly adds authority to:
•Deny amended or new petitions
•Revoke approvals

If the agency believes changes were made to game the lottery (job title, location, wage level, or entity swapping).

5. Entry-level and lower-wage H-1Bs are heavily disadvantaged

DHS estimates a sharp drop in Wage Level I selections.

The rule openly acknowledges that past abuse centered on:
•Lower-paid roles
•IT staffing and outsourcing firms
•Wage suppression of U.S. workers

This rule is designed to reverse that trend.

6. The cap size does not change
•65,000 regular cap
•20,000 advanced degree cap

What changes is who wins, not how many.

7. Effective timeline
•Final rule
•Effective for FY 2027 registration season
•Applies to all cap-subject registrations after the effective date

Bottom line

This rule:
•Explicitly admits the H-1B program has been abused
•Prioritizes higher wages over volume hiring
•Makes entry-level and low-wage H-1Bs far harder to secure
•Gives USCIS stronger enforcement tools

It does not end H-1Bs, but it fundamentally reshapes who benefits from them.

Curious what people think ….does this go far enough?

public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2025-23853.pdf
'
No, it is not enough. I want H1B gone. I know what I am talking about when I talk about H1Bs, I want most Ls gone too.Plus, talk about forever students? There is a person working at Yale that studied there since 2009! She said this is perfectly normal for a religious studies and she is now a PhD student, who works there. This is just a way to circumvent the system. BS for her to be living and working in the U.S.
Plus, huge companies are now getting their would be H1bs Canadian work visas and they are working "remotely" to bypass paying the 100K.
I am confused as to why did H1B ever have this much protection to start with? You know it is almost impossible to revoke the petition? Sure, they say they revamped it but they did not truly do anything. Plus, kick the tomato picker out, but keep this fraud in? I am not joking, I am literarily seeing "companies" that are actually 1000SF space, putting in petitions for thousands of workers. Now that should be gone, and that is something at least.


You write in a very self-important manner. Are you someone important we should know about? Also curious why you think that raging on an anonymous message board is going to advance your mission.


Remember when we used to be able to post messages in news articles. But then it made the papers look bad because the news articles were quickly debunked. So yeah, we're left with an anonymous weblog.

That's what the corporations and all their spineless foreign minions have reduced the internet to. Just another reason to get rid of these people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So now h1b will be about skills instead of cheap, let’s see which pigs squeal first …

Unpublished but finalized: DHS has quietly rewritten the H-1B lottery.

Before this rule even hits the Federal Register, here’s what actually changes … in plain English … based directly on the final rule text (2025-23853).

1. The H-1B lottery is no longer purely random

USCIS is replacing the random lottery with a wage-weighted selection system.

Registrations are still beneficiary-based, but higher wages now get better odds.

2. Wage level determines lottery odds

Each H-1B registration is entered into the selection pool based on the offered wage:
•Wage Level IV → entered 4 times
•Wage Level III → 3 times
•Wage Level II → 2 times
•Wage Level I → 1 time

Every worker is still counted once toward the cap, but higher wages dramatically increase selection probability.

3. Employers must disclose wage details up front

During registration, employers must now submit:
•The OEWS wage level
•The SOC code
•The area of intended employment

These same details must later match the filed petition exactly.

4. USCIS can deny or revoke petitions for manipulation

USCIS explicitly adds authority to:
•Deny amended or new petitions
•Revoke approvals

If the agency believes changes were made to game the lottery (job title, location, wage level, or entity swapping).

5. Entry-level and lower-wage H-1Bs are heavily disadvantaged

DHS estimates a sharp drop in Wage Level I selections.

The rule openly acknowledges that past abuse centered on:
•Lower-paid roles
•IT staffing and outsourcing firms
•Wage suppression of U.S. workers

This rule is designed to reverse that trend.

6. The cap size does not change
•65,000 regular cap
•20,000 advanced degree cap

What changes is who wins, not how many.

7. Effective timeline
•Final rule
•Effective for FY 2027 registration season
•Applies to all cap-subject registrations after the effective date

Bottom line

This rule:
•Explicitly admits the H-1B program has been abused
•Prioritizes higher wages over volume hiring
•Makes entry-level and low-wage H-1Bs far harder to secure
•Gives USCIS stronger enforcement tools

It does not end H-1Bs, but it fundamentally reshapes who benefits from them.

Curious what people think ….does this go far enough?

public-inspection.federalregister.gov/2025-23853.pdf
'
No, it is not enough. I want H1B gone. I know what I am talking about when I talk about H1Bs, I want most Ls gone too.Plus, talk about forever students? There is a person working at Yale that studied there since 2009! She said this is perfectly normal for a religious studies and she is now a PhD student, who works there. This is just a way to circumvent the system. BS for her to be living and working in the U.S.
Plus, huge companies are now getting their would be H1bs Canadian work visas and they are working "remotely" to bypass paying the 100K.
I am confused as to why did H1B ever have this much protection to start with? You know it is almost impossible to revoke the petition? Sure, they say they revamped it but they did not truly do anything. Plus, kick the tomato picker out, but keep this fraud in? I am not joking, I am literarily seeing "companies" that are actually 1000SF space, putting in petitions for thousands of workers. Now that should be gone, and that is something at least.


You write in a very self-important manner. Are you someone important we should know about? Also curious why you think that raging on an anonymous message board is going to advance your mission.


Remember when we used to be able to post messages in news articles. But then it made the papers look bad because the news articles were quickly debunked. So yeah, we're left with an anonymous weblog.

That's what the corporations and all their spineless foreign minions have reduced the internet to. Just another reason to get rid of these people.


Lots of papers still allow for comments to be posted under news articles so I’m not sure what you’re talking about. But I think at the heart of it, what you are really trying to say is the government isn’t working for you and that you feel powerless to do anything about it. And that’s a sentiment I think all of us share, regardless of our political leanings.
Anonymous
Well done, everyone. We’re winning… and we’ve only just begun.

One year ago on Christmas, Vivek Ramaswami helped wake people up.

At the time, most said this issue did not exist.

Now the data says otherwise.
Two Polls. Months Apart. Larger Audience. Same Result.

The second poll was run after the account more than doubled in size. That alone speaks to the power of the policy.

The outcome did not weaken.
It held, - It expanded.

That means recognition is spreading outward.
Poll Snapshot

• Woke up 20+ years ago: 268
• Woke up in last 8 months: 208
• Woke up in last 4 months: 80

New people are arriving at the same rate older ones once did.

That is outsiders becoming insiders.
What Changed in One Year
Something we couldn't have imagined and while we see it, are still not satisfied.

• Open discussion of ending H-1B
• Bills introduced to restrict or end OPT
• Operation Firewall slowing and blocking job access
• Employers complaining publicly
• H-1B holders afraid to speak without risking applications

None of this was happening a year ago.

Christmas Takeaway

This started with awareness.
It moved to recognition.
Now the system is reacting.

Well done, everyone.
We are winning.

They are on the defense and slowly coming over to a side that only
@GovRonDeSantis
was on prior due to his intense battle with Disney having Americans train their replacements.

And we’ve only just begun. This is not going away.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Well done, everyone. We’re winning… and we’ve only just begun.

One year ago on Christmas, Vivek Ramaswami helped wake people up.

At the time, most said this issue did not exist.

Now the data says otherwise.
Two Polls. Months Apart. Larger Audience. Same Result.

The second poll was run after the account more than doubled in size. That alone speaks to the power of the policy.

The outcome did not weaken.
It held, - It expanded.

That means recognition is spreading outward.
Poll Snapshot

• Woke up 20+ years ago: 268
• Woke up in last 8 months: 208
• Woke up in last 4 months: 80

New people are arriving at the same rate older ones once did.

That is outsiders becoming insiders.
What Changed in One Year
Something we couldn't have imagined and while we see it, are still not satisfied.

• Open discussion of ending H-1B
• Bills introduced to restrict or end OPT
• Operation Firewall slowing and blocking job access
• Employers complaining publicly
• H-1B holders afraid to speak without risking applications

None of this was happening a year ago.

Christmas Takeaway

This started with awareness.
It moved to recognition.
Now the system is reacting.

Well done, everyone.
We are winning.

They are on the defense and slowly coming over to a side that only
@GovRonDeSantis
was on prior due to his intense battle with Disney having Americans train their replacements.

And we’ve only just begun. This is not going away.




Good. We're watching. America is not amused.
Anonymous
How are Indians on H-1B visas, valid for only 3 years, coming here and obtaining 30 year mortgages to buy a home? How are they even qualifying for a mortgage with no credit history and only a short term work visa?

Why are they moving their entire families to the USA with H-4 visas?

80% of H-1B visas are going to entry level or junior level positions. They are the types of jobs that new American college grads used to get.

This entire system seems bizarre and doesn't make any sense for an American politician to support.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How are Indians on H-1B visas, valid for only 3 years, coming here and obtaining 30 year mortgages to buy a home? How are they even qualifying for a mortgage with no credit history and only a short term work visa?

Why are they moving their entire families to the USA with H-4 visas?

80% of H-1B visas are going to entry level or junior level positions. They are the types of jobs that new American college grads used to get.

This entire system seems bizarre and doesn't make any sense for an American politician to support.


Yep, it's got temporary stamped on the front of it. Makes no sense.

Then they try to get a green card, and they get to submit a PERM after years of on-the-job training.

If anything goes awry in the process, they indignantly scream racism and incessantly whine about MAGA lying to them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How are Indians on H-1B visas, valid for only 3 years, coming here and obtaining 30 year mortgages to buy a home? How are they even qualifying for a mortgage with no credit history and only a short term work visa?

Why are they moving their entire families to the USA with H-4 visas?

80% of H-1B visas are going to entry level or junior level positions. They are the types of jobs that new American college grads used to get.

This entire system seems bizarre and doesn't make any sense for an American politician to support.


To answer your first question, it is perfectly legal for foreigners on work visas to get a mortgage--legal but not easy. Specialized immigrant-focused lenders exist that offer mortgages to foreigners on work visas. Global banks like HSBC also provide programs for visa holders and foreign nationals.These focus on alternative credit, visa renewal potential, and higher down payments (often 20-30%).

Why are you focusing on Indians, specifically? Why do they bother you so much?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How are Indians on H-1B visas, valid for only 3 years, coming here and obtaining 30 year mortgages to buy a home? How are they even qualifying for a mortgage with no credit history and only a short term work visa?

Why are they moving their entire families to the USA with H-4 visas?

80% of H-1B visas are going to entry level or junior level positions. They are the types of jobs that new American college grads used to get.

This entire system seems bizarre and doesn't make any sense for an American politician to support.


The H-4 visa is a dependent visa only for the spouse and unmarried children under 21 of an H-1B (or certain other H-category) principal visa holder. If someone is gong to be working here for several years, it makes sense to bring their immediate family--spouse and children under 21. Most countries offer dependent visas similar to the US H-4 for spouses and minor children of foreign workers (including Americans on work visas). These allow family to join the primary visa holder, often with rights to live, study, and in some cases even to legally work. Do you find this unusual?


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How are Indians on H-1B visas, valid for only 3 years, coming here and obtaining 30 year mortgages to buy a home? How are they even qualifying for a mortgage with no credit history and only a short term work visa?

Why are they moving their entire families to the USA with H-4 visas?

80% of H-1B visas are going to entry level or junior level positions. They are the types of jobs that new American college grads used to get.

This entire system seems bizarre and doesn't make any sense for an American politician to support.

the same reason Melania used chain migration to get her entire family over here.
Anonymous
DC works be big tech. Some colleagues are caught up in this mess. They are figuring out ways fur them to work from their home countries. They are not hiring US citizens instead. They are not paying 100k. US is just losing tax dollars and well educated people
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DC works be big tech. Some colleagues are caught up in this mess. They are figuring out ways fur them to work from their home countries. They are not hiring US citizens instead. They are not paying 100k. US is just losing tax dollars and well educated people

Scamming, you mean, companies are scamming. We do not care about losing so few tax dollars; thousands upon thousands of agricultural workers pay taxes, and that adds up more. We need those workers to stay here, not a pampered engineer who hates Delhi.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:DC works be big tech. Some colleagues are caught up in this mess. They are figuring out ways fur them to work from their home countries. They are not hiring US citizens instead. They are not paying 100k. US is just losing tax dollars and well educated people

Scamming, you mean, companies are scamming. We do not care about losing so few tax dollars; thousands upon thousands of agricultural workers pay taxes, and that adds up more. We need those workers to stay here, not a pampered engineer who hates Delhi.


What are you talking about. Which agricultural worker isn't in the lowest tax brackets? They likely don't own property. Sales taxes?
Anonymous
Green card holders are still illegal and face consequences (deportation) if they commit a crime.
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