Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:Not many people recover from the stench of allegations, even if they are found not to be true. Woody Allen, OJ, Duke LaCrosse, Brett Kavanaugh. The public remembers.

I think that's generally true but there is a non zero chance this goes down spectacularly enough with BL and RR basically weaponizing MeToo that it backfires. With the exception of Duke, I think the popular sentiment is these people were all guilty of these allegations even if not proven and I don't think that holds for Baldoni.

People will always remember this controversy when his name comes up. It's unavoidable. She can always just back out of it that it's how she felt at the time.

The whole thing makes both of them sound risky and difficult. They are both toast.

Nope. Her, yes. He’ll be good.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not many people recover from the stench of allegations, even if they are found not to be true. Woody Allen, OJ, Duke LaCrosse, Brett Kavanaugh. The public remembers.

I think that's generally true but there is a non zero chance this goes down spectacularly enough with BL and RR basically weaponizing MeToo that it backfires. With the exception of Duke, I think the popular sentiment is these people were all guilty of these allegations even if not proven and I don't think that holds for Baldoni.

People will always remember this controversy when his name comes up. It's unavoidable. She can always just back out of it that it's how she felt at the time.

The whole thing makes both of them sound risky and difficult. They are both toast.

I think her career is finished, which is just about the time she'd be aging out anyway so she's going out with a bang. This is far more damaging to him in the long run. Who would take a risk on such a controversial actor for a leading role?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This tik tok is a perfect explanation of the annoying Blske Lively and Ryan Reynolds "couple goals" media campaign.

https://www.reddit.com/r/blakelivelysnark/comments/1i9fapa/blake_and_ryans_couple_humor/

https://www.reddit.com/r/blakelivelysnark/s/M4PiXoiVEf

This comment is close to my theory. I don't think she had an affair but I do think she liked his support and energy

I also am of the theory that she was deeply attracted to JB

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Not many people recover from the stench of allegations, even if they are found not to be true. Woody Allen, OJ, Duke LaCrosse, Brett Kavanaugh. The public remembers.

I think that's generally true but there is a non zero chance this goes down spectacularly enough with BL and RR basically weaponizing MeToo that it backfires. With the exception of Duke, I think the popular sentiment is these people were all guilty of these allegations even if not proven and I don't think that holds for Baldoni.

People will always remember this controversy when his name comes up. It's unavoidable. She can always just back out of it that it's how she felt at the time.

The whole thing makes both of them sound risky and difficult. They are both toast.

I think her career is finished, which is just about the time she'd be aging out anyway so she's going out with a bang. This is far more damaging to him in the long run. Who would take a risk on such a controversial actor for a leading role?

Nope. She’s a punchline forever now and a noted liar. He’ll continue to work.

Before the accusations- I believed Heard and Blasey Ford and still do. I don’t believe Lively and Reynolds, and think Baldoni made the best but frankly only choice he had once she went to the NYT. Lively lit a bomb and tucked it into her own overalls - IMO she is so used to lying that it never occurred to her a less-rich and famous performer could ultimately stand up to her.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not many people recover from the stench of allegations, even if they are found not to be true. Woody Allen, OJ, Duke LaCrosse, Brett Kavanaugh. The public remembers.

I think that's generally true but there is a non zero chance this goes down spectacularly enough with BL and RR basically weaponizing MeToo that it backfires. With the exception of Duke, I think the popular sentiment is these people were all guilty of these allegations even if not proven and I don't think that holds for Baldoni.

People will always remember this controversy when his name comes up. It's unavoidable. She can always just back out of it that it's how she felt at the time.

The whole thing makes both of them sound risky and difficult. They are both toast.

I think her career is finished, which is just about the time she'd be aging out anyway so she's going out with a bang. This is far more damaging to him in the long run. Who would take a risk on such a controversial actor for a leading role?

Nope. She’s a punchline forever now and a noted liar. He’ll continue to work.

Before the accusations- I believed Heard and Blasey Ford and still do. I don’t believe Lively and Reynolds, and think Baldoni made the best but frankly only choice he had once she went to the NYT. Lively lit a bomb and tucked it into her own overalls - IMO she is so used to lying that it never occurred to her a less-rich and famous performer could ultimately stand up to her.

Her being a liar doesn't make him a better or more bankable actor.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This tik tok is a perfect explanation of the annoying Blske Lively and Ryan Reynolds "couple goals" media campaign.

https://www.reddit.com/r/blakelivelysnark/comments/1i9fapa/blake_and_ryans_couple_humor/

https://www.reddit.com/r/blakelivelysnark/s/M4PiXoiVEf

This comment is close to my theory. I don't think she had an affair but I do think she liked his support and energy

I also am of the theory that she was deeply attracted to JB

+1. The photo even that RR posted that these Reddit people use shows such contempt for his wife. I think BL is immature and slow, but mean as hell, was attracted to JB, it wasn’t reciprocated - and that separately she wanted to feel like a Big Creator in overalls, but she can’t think nor write, just “edit.” Snatching credits was going to be her consolation prize. And all of this would have suited her but she overshot, made EEO claims and tried to swerve her bullshit and make it fit into MeToo. It’s absolutely gross and it’s career ending in terms of film. Her marble-mouthed emoting will be missed by the psycho defending her here like it’s her job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not many people recover from the stench of allegations, even if they are found not to be true. Woody Allen, OJ, Duke LaCrosse, Brett Kavanaugh. The public remembers.

I think that's generally true but there is a non zero chance this goes down spectacularly enough with BL and RR basically weaponizing MeToo that it backfires. With the exception of Duke, I think the popular sentiment is these people were all guilty of these allegations even if not proven and I don't think that holds for Baldoni.

People will always remember this controversy when his name comes up. It's unavoidable. She can always just back out of it that it's how she felt at the time.

The whole thing makes both of them sound risky and difficult. They are both toast.

I think her career is finished, which is just about the time she'd be aging out anyway so she's going out with a bang. This is far more damaging to him in the long run. Who would take a risk on such a controversial actor for a leading role?

Nope. She’s a punchline forever now and a noted liar. He’ll continue to work.

Before the accusations- I believed Heard and Blasey Ford and still do. I don’t believe Lively and Reynolds, and think Baldoni made the best but frankly only choice he had once she went to the NYT. Lively lit a bomb and tucked it into her own overalls - IMO she is so used to lying that it never occurred to her a less-rich and famous performer could ultimately stand up to her.

Her being a liar doesn't make him a better or more bankable actor.

I see.

Your objection is no longer JB being “controversial”? It’s “bankability”? Did the movie profit, the same one with him as a lead and director after developing the project? Interesting times, these.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not many people recover from the stench of allegations, even if they are found not to be true. Woody Allen, OJ, Duke LaCrosse, Brett Kavanaugh. The public remembers.

I think that's generally true but there is a non zero chance this goes down spectacularly enough with BL and RR basically weaponizing MeToo that it backfires. With the exception of Duke, I think the popular sentiment is these people were all guilty of these allegations even if not proven and I don't think that holds for Baldoni.

People will always remember this controversy when his name comes up. It's unavoidable. She can always just back out of it that it's how she felt at the time.

The whole thing makes both of them sound risky and difficult. They are both toast.

I think her career is finished, which is just about the time she'd be aging out anyway so she's going out with a bang. This is far more damaging to him in the long run. Who would take a risk on such a controversial actor for a leading role?

Nope. She’s a punchline forever now and a noted liar. He’ll continue to work.

Before the accusations- I believed Heard and Blasey Ford and still do. I don’t believe Lively and Reynolds, and think Baldoni made the best but frankly only choice he had once she went to the NYT. Lively lit a bomb and tucked it into her own overalls - IMO she is so used to lying that it never occurred to her a less-rich and famous performer could ultimately stand up to her.

Her being a liar doesn't make him a better or more bankable actor.

I think the bulk of his career is in the production company. I think he’s trying to break out as a director. Don’t know if this will hurt that or not.

Ryan and Blake’s whole thing is laid-back, fun banter. They don’t get to do that now for a long time because they’re in this big mess. Ryan turned his comments off on Instagram. Just the way they engaged with the public has to be different now for a while.

They’ll be fine financially of course, but I do think their reputation is taking a hit.

I just saw today day that Justin’s next movie is with Scarlett Johansson. You cannot make this stuff up.

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Anonymous wrote:"Ryan says an interview that thought he would die for Blake before they had kids but after kids he knew he would use Blake as a human shield to save his kids. People laugh but it is odd to consistently say things like this."

Yikes

IDK. I get this. He's joking but kids change your life and everything you ever thought you cared about.

Where's the "joke"? How did that make you laugh? Why would you say such a thing publicly? It's a pattern of behavior. He can't help but blurt out his contempt for his wife. Probably because it's all a sham.

NP. I think it's funny. You love your spouse, then you have kids and you know that you'd do anything to protect them, even use your spouse (who is still your favorite person!) as a human shield. For me, it's the image it conjures of grabbing the unassuming spouse that makes it funny (and just the fact that I relate to that profound transition from person to protector).

He has that acerbic catty gay humor. He says cruel passive aggressive things and plays them off like he’s being sarcastic. He’s not some wise-cracking 20 year old boy, he’s like 50 years old. I believe he’s a gay man.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not many people recover from the stench of allegations, even if they are found not to be true. Woody Allen, OJ, Duke LaCrosse, Brett Kavanaugh. The public remembers.

I think that's generally true but there is a non zero chance this goes down spectacularly enough with BL and RR basically weaponizing MeToo that it backfires. With the exception of Duke, I think the popular sentiment is these people were all guilty of these allegations even if not proven and I don't think that holds for Baldoni.

People will always remember this controversy when his name comes up. It's unavoidable. She can always just back out of it that it's how she felt at the time.

The whole thing makes both of them sound risky and difficult. They are both toast.

I think her career is finished, which is just about the time she'd be aging out anyway so she's going out with a bang. This is far more damaging to him in the long run. Who would take a risk on such a controversial actor for a leading role?

Nope. She’s a punchline forever now and a noted liar. He’ll continue to work.

Before the accusations- I believed Heard and Blasey Ford and still do. I don’t believe Lively and Reynolds, and think Baldoni made the best but frankly only choice he had once she went to the NYT. Lively lit a bomb and tucked it into her own overalls - IMO she is so used to lying that it never occurred to her a less-rich and famous performer could ultimately stand up to her.

Her being a liar doesn't make him a better or more bankable actor.

I think the bulk of his career is in the production company. I think he’s trying to break out as a director. Don’t know if this will hurt that or not.

Ryan and Blake’s whole thing is laid-back, fun banter. They don’t get to do that now for a long time because they’re in this big mess. Ryan turned his comments off on Instagram. Just the way they engaged with the public has to be different now for a while.

They’ll be fine financially of course, but I do think their reputation is taking a hit.

I just saw today day that Justin’s next movie is with Scarlett Johansson. You cannot make this stuff up.

Their gossip - Scarlett and Justin’s - is going to be for the ages.

[Anonymous]

Scarlett Johansson hosted the Today Show and I found her insanely charming. And this is coming from someone who dislikes her and finds her very tone-deaf. I wonder what prompted her to take on the gig?

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There should be a lot of tangible evidence presented in this case. If anyone is actually telling the truth, I think they’ll be redeemed regardless of how the court cases go.

So far it’s looking like him—but it’s been a ride and it’s only the beginning—so we’ll just have to see.

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Anonymous wrote:Scarlett Johansson hosted the Today Show and I found her insanely charming. And this is coming from someone who dislikes her and finds her very tone-deaf. I wonder what prompted her to take on the gig?

She’s been on the today show for things several times and she always does the weather with Al Roker. She said she always wanted to be a weather person or something. I think she just thought it would be fun.

Keep in mind her husband is head writer on SNL, also filmed at 30 rock, and the today show and SNL are both NBC institutions. She’s also on SNL quite a bit doing little side appearances. It makes total sense.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m tired of the Blake defenders online equating this with domestic violence and using that same language. And the comparisons to Amber heard just need to stop. Not only was that power imbalance totally different, but that was a domestic abuse situation years in the making between a married couple.

This was an eight week shoot. Yes I realize they had some interaction during preproduction, but there was a lot going on other than Blake and Justin. There were a lot of moving parts to this film, and there was a whole other story of young lily and young atlas where Blake wasn’t even on set.

The whole justifying her lying about certain things, like feeling uncomfortable that the finance officer was around for an intimate scene when turns out he wasn’t even on set that day, and people saying well victims memories get distorted!

This was not months and months of interactions and abuse. I just don’t even know when Justin would’ve had time to unleash all this psychological abuse.

But because of the strike it was actually much longer. The started shooting in May of 2023 but didn't wrap until January/February of 2024. They filmed for like a month before the strikes and then picked back up in January. And in between there was a lot of interaction because of the conflicts that arose in the first month both regarding Baldoni's/Heath's behavior and regarding things like Lively's access to dailies, input into the editing process, etc.

I would not describe what happened as "psychological abuse" by Baldoni against Blake, but the impression I get is a terrible working relationship with some weird, perhaps boundary-violating behavior from Baldoni (the stuff with him talking about her dead dad, oversharing on set about is sex life, and then perhaps some genuinely bad behavior regarding shooting the birth sequence), all during that first week of shooting. I think all of this pissed Blake off and made her dread going back to finish filming after the strike, and the more she thought about it the more unhappy she was. I think this gave rise to a lot of the efforts to wrestle control of the movie from Baldoni (perhaps driven at least in part by having felt uncomfortable on set and wanting to exercise control over the footage as a result, but eventually just becoming a power struggle). Then demanding they agree to certain things before returning to the set in an effort to feel more in control (and less miserable) about finishing the shoot with this costar/director with whom, at that point, she had a horrible relationship.

Like I think the strike prolonged what was always going to be an unpleasant experience because I think these two are just oil and water, and in doing so led to everything escalating because it gave Lively (and perhaps Baldoni too, though I don't get this from his complaint) time to ruminate over the bad experience and become very, very reticent to return.

If they'd actually just shot the whole movie over May/June of 2023 as originally planned, I think there would have been no love lost but that most of the worst conflicted would have been avoided, their relationship would not have been so bad that they had to do the separate premiers, and no lawsuits filed.

I agree that if it wasn’t for the strike, they might have just gotten this done and moved on. I wonder if all the months of the strike gave her more time to stew and obsess over the online criticism she was getting for playing Lily.

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His next movie is not "with" Scarlett Johansson.

Wayfarer co-financed (with other studios) a movie Scarlett has already directed in NYC (it wrapped last April). Baldoni and Heath are both listed as executive producers but it looks like Scarlett's own production company (These Pictures), Pinky Promise, and Maven Pictures are doing the more hands on work. Wayfarer was just an investor.

Baldoni has no projects in pre-production or development, according to IMDB. Not as a producer, director, or actor.

Lively has three movies in development or pre-production. One of them is with Richard Gere, Diane Keaton, and Lin-Manuel Miranda and actually sounds pretty cute. It doesn't have a director attached yet that I can tell but I know who probably won't be considered.