Freeloading swim team parents suck

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP is a judgmental b*tch.

It's a TEAM. That means supporting each other.

Maybe 1 mom had something bad come up. You don't know her personal life. What if her parents died from COVID? What if her company is failing due to pandemic. What if pandemic caused her severe anxiety or depression.

Let's help each other get through this year - moms helping moms. ok?

Again, this isn’t the situation OP is complaining about. It’s the parents that go to every meet and mill around socializing but never volunteer. Those parents are freeloaders and they do suck.

Oh, well that is odd then.

It’s extremely frustrating. If Larlo’s mom or dad never come to the meets, no one notices that they don’t volunteer. What people notice and get pissed about is Larla’s mom or dad who are there every week and do not volunteer. If you are able to show up to your kid’s meet there is no excuse for not volunteering. Also, most parents are well aware of who the folks are that do all the behind the scenes work because it’s the same people doing it year after year, so that isn’t an excuse either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is a judgmental b*tch.

It's a TEAM. That means supporting each other.

Maybe 1 mom had something bad come up. You don't know her personal life. What if her parents died from COVID? What if her company is failing due to pandemic. What if pandemic caused her severe anxiety or depression.

Let's help each other get through this year - moms helping moms. ok?

Again, this isn’t the situation OP is complaining about. It’s the parents that go to every meet and mill around socializing but never volunteer. Those parents are freeloaders and they do suck.

A suggestion: why don't you approach these freeloading parents at the next meet and ask what volunteer hours they're doing. Ask conversationally. Shame them into admitting they're not volunteering. Or keep complaining here and being a martyr.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is a judgmental b*tch.

It's a TEAM. That means supporting each other.

Maybe 1 mom had something bad come up. You don't know her personal life. What if her parents died from COVID? What if her company is failing due to pandemic. What if pandemic caused her severe anxiety or depression.

Let's help each other get through this year - moms helping moms. ok?

Again, this isn’t the situation OP is complaining about. It’s the parents that go to every meet and mill around socializing but never volunteer. Those parents are freeloaders and they do suck.

Oh, well that is odd then.

It’s extremely frustrating. If Larlo’s mom or dad never come to the meets, no one notices that they don’t volunteer. What people notice and get pissed about is Larla’s mom or dad who are there every week and do not volunteer. If you are able to show up to your kid’s meet there is no excuse for not volunteering. Also, most parents are well aware of who the folks are that do all the behind the scenes work because it’s the same people doing it year after year, so that isn’t an excuse either.

You know you judgy jerks would notice either way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP is a judgmental b*tch.

It's a TEAM. That means supporting each other.

Maybe 1 mom had something bad come up. You don't know her personal life. What if her parents died from COVID? What if her company is failing due to pandemic. What if pandemic caused her severe anxiety or depression.

Let's help each other get through this year - moms helping moms. ok?

Again, this isn’t the situation OP is complaining about. It’s the parents that go to every meet and mill around socializing but never volunteer. Those parents are freeloaders and they do suck.

Oh, well that is odd then.

It’s extremely frustrating. If Larlo’s mom or dad never come to the meets, no one notices that they don’t volunteer. What people notice and get pissed about is Larla’s mom or dad who are there every week and do not volunteer. If you are able to show up to your kid’s meet there is no excuse for not volunteering. Also, most parents are well aware of who the folks are that do all the behind the scenes work because it’s the same people doing it year after year, so that isn’t an excuse either.

You know you judgy jerks would notice either way.

Nope, have no clue who most of the kids parents are. The ones that stand out are the ones that show up every Saturday morning coffee in hand and chat away. I also don’t find it to be judgy to call someone a freeloader who is in fact freeloading. It’s just the truth. I don’t understand the need to defend the parents who have the ability to show up to each and every meet, do in fact show up, and then fail to volunteer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is incorrect that A meet swimmers get twice the number of meets B meet swimmers do? It is incorrect that A meet swimmers get to attend the extra special relay meets? It is incorrect that A meet swimmers can get more attention from coaches?

This is all true at our pool.

I didn’t realize there were pools where A meet swimmers weren’t allowed to swim in B meets. Our B meets are for everybody. But very few kids get to swim in the A meets.

If you score points in the A meet you are prohibited from swimming the b meet. They aren’t for everyone.

Our B meet rule is that if you placed 1st or 2nd in the A meet, you can swim one event that you didn’t swim on Saturday, but it’s unofficial (you cannot place at the B meet, but a good time would count for the ladder). If you placed 3rd you can swim 2 other events for place. Plenty of our top 2 finishers come to B meets to swim something, especially if IMs are an option.

We have a small pool. You can swim at both no issue.[

our culture is such that the A kids don’t swim a lot of the b meets (they do come to help wrangle little kids and cheer). If you score any points in an event, you can’t swim it at the b meet.

[Anonymous]

I still don't think a case has been made for needing so many volunteers

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It is incorrect that A meet swimmers get twice the number of meets B meet swimmers do? It is incorrect that A meet swimmers get to attend the extra special relay meets? It is incorrect that A meet swimmers can get more attention from coaches?

This is all true at our pool.

I didn’t realize there were pools where A meet swimmers weren’t allowed to swim in B meets. Our B meets are for everybody. But very few kids get to swim in the A meets.

If you score points in the A meet you are prohibited from swimming the b meet. They aren’t for everyone.

Our B meet rule is that if you placed 1st or 2nd in the A meet, you can swim one event that you didn’t swim on Saturday, but it’s unofficial (you cannot place at the B meet, but a good time would count for the ladder). If you placed 3rd you can swim 2 other events for place. Plenty of our top 2 finishers come to B meets to swim something, especially if IMs are an option.

We have a small pool. You can swim at both no issue.[

our culture is such that the A kids don’t swim a lot of the b meets (they do come to help wrangle little kids and cheer). If you score any points in an event, you can’t swim it at the b meet.

I think this rule makes sense and is the fairest. We don’t have that rule, and I’ll admit my DD has benefited from it. She’s the no. 3 swimmer in her age group in a stroke, and she scores points at A meets, but she’s still allowed to swim it at B meets, so she gets the advantage of swimming it in a meet twice a week. This rule would also help shorten the length of the B meets because our team has a number of kids like my DD who do some strokes in both the A and B meets.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Or maybe kids parents work 60 -80 hour weeks. That should not preclude a child from being on team. That is just nasty. Volunteering should not just be tit for tat. It should be about giving of yourself because my goodness you are blessed with something to give.

I worked 70+ hours a week with a husband who was gone 3 weeks a month. I volunteered fully, including timing when I had a 3 year old in tow.

I volunteer with two other organizations.
Sorry, not sorry - won’t be volunteering at swimming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or maybe kids parents work 60 -80 hour weeks. That should not preclude a child from being on team. That is just nasty. Volunteering should not just be tit for tat. It should be about giving of yourself because my goodness you are blessed with something to give.

I worked 70+ hours a week with a husband who was gone 3 weeks a month. I volunteered fully, including timing when I had a 3 year old in tow.

I volunteer with two other organizations.
Sorry, not sorry - won’t be volunteering at swimming.

This response is absurd. What does volunteering for 2 other organizations have anything to do with swim team volunteer obligations? You can feel free to just tell your kid that you don’t have room in the schedule for swim team obligations and not sign them up. It’s not other parents’ responsibility to subsidize your volunteer priorities. Are we supposed to just bow down and pick up your slack because you have deemed other volunteer obligations to be more important? Get over yourself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or maybe kids parents work 60 -80 hour weeks. That should not preclude a child from being on team. That is just nasty. Volunteering should not just be tit for tat. It should be about giving of yourself because my goodness you are blessed with something to give.

I worked 70+ hours a week with a husband who was gone 3 weeks a month. I volunteered fully, including timing when I had a 3 year old in tow.

I volunteer with two other organizations.
Sorry, not sorry - won’t be volunteering at swimming.

This response is absurd. What does volunteering for 2 other organizations have anything to do with swim team volunteer obligations? You can feel free to just tell your kid that you don’t have room in the schedule for swim team obligations and not sign them up. It’s not other parents’ responsibility to subsidize your volunteer priorities. Are we supposed to just bow down and pick up your slack because you have deemed other volunteer obligations to be more important? Get over yourself.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or maybe kids parents work 60 -80 hour weeks. That should not preclude a child from being on team. That is just nasty. Volunteering should not just be tit for tat. It should be about giving of yourself because my goodness you are blessed with something to give.

I worked 70+ hours a week with a husband who was gone 3 weeks a month. I volunteered fully, including timing when I had a 3 year old in tow.

I volunteer with two other organizations.
Sorry, not sorry - won’t be volunteering at swimming.

This response is absurd. What does volunteering for 2 other organizations have anything to do with swim team volunteer obligations? You can feel free to just tell your kid that you don’t have room in the schedule for swim team obligations and not sign them up. It’s not other parents’ responsibility to subsidize your volunteer priorities. Are we supposed to just bow down and pick up your slack because you have deemed other volunteer obligations to be more important? Get over yourself.

You can cut back on the two other organizations to be able to volunteer twice a month for a few hours at swim meets. And, too bad you have a 3 year old in tow. That part of being a parent. If you work 70+ hours a week plus volunteer you either have a lot of hired help for that 3 year old or you are lying.

[Anonymous]

Swim team parents are the worst. So glad my kid is done with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or maybe kids parents work 60 -80 hour weeks. That should not preclude a child from being on team. That is just nasty. Volunteering should not just be tit for tat. It should be about giving of yourself because my goodness you are blessed with something to give.

I worked 70+ hours a week with a husband who was gone 3 weeks a month. I volunteered fully, including timing when I had a 3 year old in tow.

I volunteer with two other organizations.
Sorry, not sorry - won’t be volunteering at swimming.

This response is absurd. What does volunteering for 2 other organizations have anything to do with swim team volunteer obligations? You can feel free to just tell your kid that you don’t have room in the schedule for swim team obligations and not sign them up. It’s not other parents’ responsibility to subsidize your volunteer priorities. Are we supposed to just bow down and pick up your slack because you have deemed other volunteer obligations to be more important? Get over yourself.

It’s because 90% of the parents do ZERO in the other two organizations. Email after email asking for volunteers. Nada. But these same parents want a third timer for 8 year olds. F off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or maybe kids parents work 60 -80 hour weeks. That should not preclude a child from being on team. That is just nasty. Volunteering should not just be tit for tat. It should be about giving of yourself because my goodness you are blessed with something to give.

I worked 70+ hours a week with a husband who was gone 3 weeks a month. I volunteered fully, including timing when I had a 3 year old in tow.

I volunteer with two other organizations.
Sorry, not sorry - won’t be volunteering at swimming.

This response is absurd. What does volunteering for 2 other organizations have anything to do with swim team volunteer obligations? You can feel free to just tell your kid that you don’t have room in the schedule for swim team obligations and not sign them up. It’s not other parents’ responsibility to subsidize your volunteer priorities. Are we supposed to just bow down and pick up your slack because you have deemed other volunteer obligations to be more important? Get over yourself.

It’s because 90% of the parents do ZERO in the other two organizations. Email after email asking for volunteers. Nada. But these same parents want a third timer for 8 year olds. F off.

Wait, so you are telling me that the exact same parents are part of these other organizations and the swim team? Because if not, you realize the swim team parents think of you with the same contempt that you have for the parents in these other organizations, because as a swim team parent you are as awful as the parents in the other organizations that you despise so much?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Or maybe kids parents work 60 -80 hour weeks. That should not preclude a child from being on team. That is just nasty. Volunteering should not just be tit for tat. It should be about giving of yourself because my goodness you are blessed with something to give.

I worked 70+ hours a week with a husband who was gone 3 weeks a month. I volunteered fully, including timing when I had a 3 year old in tow.

I volunteer with two other organizations.
Sorry, not sorry - won’t be volunteering at swimming.

This response is absurd. What does volunteering for 2 other organizations have anything to do with swim team volunteer obligations? You can feel free to just tell your kid that you don’t have room in the schedule for swim team obligations and not sign them up. It’s not other parents’ responsibility to subsidize your volunteer priorities. Are we supposed to just bow down and pick up your slack because you have deemed other volunteer obligations to be more important? Get over yourself.

It’s because 90% of the parents do ZERO in the other two organizations. Email after email asking for volunteers. Nada. But these same parents want a third timer for 8 year olds. F off.

If there are not three timers in each lane the meet cannot happen. If you want your kid swimming you need to step up at least 2-3 meets, not all and help.