Why don’t Americans give a f*** about what they eat?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So…just curious, since you seem pretty informed about what is or isn’t healthy, and you have enough money that you can stay in an upscale hotel and travel, and you clearly have plenty of time on your hands…why are you blaming “America” for your poor dietary choices? Do you bear no responsibility for your pre-diabetic state?

Why don’t you read the last 30 pages? This is not about me.

My question is why do Americans put up with it? Why do they put up with unhealthy school lunches and junk sold at schools? Why do you put up with so much fast food and crappy restaurants? Why do you put up with all the sugar, fillers, coloring, prrservatives, chemicals in your food?

Anyone who us trying to eat healthy and teach good eating habits to kids knows the struggle in America.
People explained how they have to fight tooth and nail in America not to be obese while they effortlessly lose and maintain wait abroad.

+1

Personally I’m with you. But we put up much more than that...mass shootings, systemic racism, workaholic culture, no support for families, toxic positivity, shame based parenting (aka DCUM). Really, the food is the tip of the iceberg and a coping mechanism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread just makes me want to eat a Twinkie.

Just be sure to ham-handedly blame other people and a random hotel for that later and you’ll fit in here nicely 👍

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So…just curious, since you seem pretty informed about what is or isn’t healthy, and you have enough money that you can stay in an upscale hotel and travel, and you clearly have plenty of time on your hands…why are you blaming “America” for your poor dietary choices? Do you bear no responsibility for your pre-diabetic state?

Why don’t you read the last 30 pages? This is not about me.

My question is why do Americans put up with it? Why do they put up with unhealthy school lunches and junk sold at schools? Why do you put up with so much fast food and crappy restaurants? Why do you put up with all the sugar, fillers, coloring, prrservatives, chemicals in your food?

Anyone who us trying to eat healthy and teach good eating habits to kids knows the struggle in America.
People explained how they have to fight tooth and nail in America not to be obese while they effortlessly lose and maintain wait abroad.

Personally I’m with you. But we put up much more than that...mass shootings, systemic racism, workaholic culture, no support for families, toxic positivity, shame based parenting (aka DCUM). Really, the food is the tip of the iceberg and a coping mechanism.

+1 agree

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those of you that think the government should be responsible for the obesity crisis, what do you propose they do? Ban certain foods or ingredients? Outlaw cheese puffs and potato chips, force people to exercise? There’s no possible way to legislate will power. Look how difficult it was even to get people to wear masks or get vaccinated. Look what happened during prohibition when government outlawed booze. They can get rid of subsidies, raise minimum wage, and make healthcare more accessible, and maybe even educate better, but in the end, they can’t just take away junk food or forbid people from dining at Disney.

I’m very thin and athletic and eat healthfully 95% of the time, but once in awhile, I too would like a donut or ice cream or French fry. I’m not addicted to these things but I do enjoy them on occasion.

Not OP but I propose:

Significant, large-scale taxes on junk food and soda, with the taxes going to food education and healthcare (essentially the tobacco tax model).

Removal of corn (syrup) subsidies.

Subsidies to farmers who make vegetables and fruit for consumption.

Lawsuits and settlement agreements with the largest junk food manufacturers (again like tobacco)

Restrictions on sales to under 18-year-olds

This all could be done and would have measurable and likely immediate public health impact. We have tobacco as an example. We know this works. But all the "git yer hands off my junk food it's totally free will" addicts in this thread are emblematic of the resistance this will face.

Individual cities/counties have tried all of the above steps I laid out. They have largely been defeated by malignant corporations who pour money into efforts to defeat the measures. They don't even have to do the dirty work themselves, they get people like the PPs to do it for them.

It’s so incredibly hard to take you seriously when you characterize the thread like this…it makes you seem like you are not well-versed in the English language, or logic, or both.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Take a good look at yourself, OP, and you’ll find your answers.

I cook from scratch at home 90% of the time and send lunches to school. My child didn’t know what a pop tart was or had been to a
fast food restaurant for the first ten years of life. Until someone outside home introduced these. We only drink water, no sodas or juice. We have 3 meals. We eat family dinner every night that I cook fresh from scratch. We walk,swim, play tennis or hike every day.

I’m not on any meds, no chronic conditions, my physical’s tests are normal.

It takes tremendous effort. I find it incredibly difficult in America to guard my family from junk food. It’s everywhere, on every corner, every step of every day. The food culture is awful. When I’m in Europe it’s effortless. There I don’t have to worry about gaining weight or what I’m eating, the quality of food is at another level.

In DH’s extended family of 17, 4 are morbidly obese, another 7 are seriously overweight, 1 has diabetes, 2 have had cancer before age 60, 2 have thyroid disease, 2 have hypertension, 1 twenty five year old has Crohn’s disease. These are middle class people all with college education. None of this is genetic. This a picture of American society and you can’t pin it on individual responsibility. It’s a cultural phenomenon.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Take a good look at yourself, OP, and you’ll find your answers.

I cook from scratch at home 90% of the time and send lunches to school. My child didn’t know what a pop tart was or had been to a
fast food restaurant for the first ten years of life. Until someone outside home introduced these. We only drink water, no sodas or juice. We have 3 meals. We eat family dinner every night that I cook fresh from scratch. We walk,swim, play tennis or hike every day.

I’m not on any meds, no chronic conditions, my physical’s tests are normal.

It takes tremendous effort. I find it incredibly difficult in America to guard my family from junk food. It’s everywhere, on every corner, every step of every day. The food culture is awful. When I’m in Europe it’s effortless. There I don’t have to worry about gaining weight or what I’m eating, the quality of food is at another level.

In DH’s extended family of 17, 4 are morbidly obese, another 7 are seriously overweight, 1 has diabetes, 2 have had cancer before age 60, 2 have thyroid disease, 2 have hypertension, 1 twenty five year old has Crohn’s disease. These are middle class people all with college education. None of this is genetic. This a picture of American society and you can’t pin it on individual responsibility. It’s a cultural phenomenon.

What is your country of origin, if you don’t mind me asking?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those of you that think the government should be responsible for the obesity crisis, what do you propose they do? Ban certain foods or ingredients? Outlaw cheese puffs and potato chips, force people to exercise? There’s no possible way to legislate will power. Look how difficult it was even to get people to wear masks or get vaccinated. Look what happened during prohibition when government outlawed booze. They can get rid of subsidies, raise minimum wage, and make healthcare more accessible, and maybe even educate better, but in the end, they can’t just take away junk food or forbid people from dining at Disney.

I’m very thin and athletic and eat healthfully 95% of the time, but once in awhile, I too would like a donut or ice cream or French fry. I’m not addicted to these things but I do enjoy them on occasion.

Not OP but I propose:

Significant, large-scale taxes on junk food and soda, with the taxes going to food education and healthcare (essentially the tobacco tax model).

Removal of corn (syrup) subsidies.

Subsidies to farmers who make vegetables and fruit for consumption.

Lawsuits and settlement agreements with the largest junk food manufacturers (again like tobacco)

Restrictions on sales to under 18-year-olds

This all could be done and would have measurable and likely immediate public health impact. We have tobacco as an example. We know this works. But all the "git yer hands off my junk food it's totally free will" addicts in this thread are emblematic of the resistance this will face.

Individual cities/counties have tried all of the above steps I laid out. They have largely been defeated by malignant corporations who pour money into efforts to defeat the measures. They don't even have to do the dirty work themselves, they get people like the PPs to do it for them.

It’s so incredibly hard to take you seriously when you characterize the thread like this…it makes you seem like you are not well-versed in the English language, or logic, or both.

Too bad. I'm done coddling you people with your wildly outdated understanding of public health and devotion to the altar of junk food. I call it like it is. You are just like the pro-mass-shooting gun nuts. I don't care if you don't think of yourselves like rabid gun nuts. You are just like them at the core, both devoted to doing the dirty work of overtly bad corporations.

Freak out all you want. I don't care. History will show you are wrong, eventually. Keep siding with Nestle and PepsiCo. You will eventually lose.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Take a good look at yourself, OP, and you’ll find your answers.

I cook from scratch at home 90% of the time and send lunches to school. My child didn’t know what a pop tart was or had been to a
fast food restaurant for the first ten years of life. Until someone outside home introduced these. We only drink water, no sodas or juice. We have 3 meals. We eat family dinner every night that I cook fresh from scratch. We walk,swim, play tennis or hike every day.

I’m not on any meds, no chronic conditions, my physical’s tests are normal.

It takes tremendous effort. I find it incredibly difficult in America to guard my family from junk food. It’s everywhere, on every corner, every step of every day. The food culture is awful. When I’m in Europe it’s effortless. There I don’t have to worry about gaining weight or what I’m eating, the quality of food is at another level.

In DH’s extended family of 17, 4 are morbidly obese, another 7 are seriously overweight, 1 has diabetes, 2 have had cancer before age 60, 2 have thyroid disease, 2 have hypertension, 1 twenty five year old has Crohn’s disease. These are middle class people all with college education. None of this is genetic. This a picture of American society and you can’t pin it on individual responsibility. It’s a cultural phenomenon.

What is your country of origin, if you don’t mind me asking?

She won’t say. At this point the OP is just an obnoxious troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those of you that think the government should be responsible for the obesity crisis, what do you propose they do? Ban certain foods or ingredients? Outlaw cheese puffs and potato chips, force people to exercise? There’s no possible way to legislate will power. Look how difficult it was even to get people to wear masks or get vaccinated. Look what happened during prohibition when government outlawed booze. They can get rid of subsidies, raise minimum wage, and make healthcare more accessible, and maybe even educate better, but in the end, they can’t just take away junk food or forbid people from dining at Disney.

I’m very thin and athletic and eat healthfully 95% of the time, but once in awhile, I too would like a donut or ice cream or French fry. I’m not addicted to these things but I do enjoy them on occasion.

Not OP but I propose:

Significant, large-scale taxes on junk food and soda, with the taxes going to food education and healthcare (essentially the tobacco tax model).

Removal of corn (syrup) subsidies.

Subsidies to farmers who make vegetables and fruit for consumption.

Lawsuits and settlement agreements with the largest junk food manufacturers (again like tobacco)

Restrictions on sales to under 18-year-olds

This all could be done and would have measurable and likely immediate public health impact. We have tobacco as an example. We know this works. But all the "git yer hands off my junk food it's totally free will" addicts in this thread are emblematic of the resistance this will face.

Individual cities/counties have tried all of the above steps I laid out. They have largely been defeated by malignant corporations who pour money into efforts to defeat the measures. They don't even have to do the dirty work themselves, they get people like the PPs to do it for them.

It’s so incredibly hard to take you seriously when you characterize the thread like this…it makes you seem like you are not well-versed in the English language, or logic, or both.

Too bad. I'm done coddling you people with your wildly outdated understanding of public health and devotion to the altar of junk food. I call it like it is. You are just like the pro-mass-shooting gun nuts. I don't care if you don't think of yourselves like rabid gun nuts. You are just like them at the core, both devoted to doing the dirty work of overtly bad corporations.

Freak out all you want. I don't care. History will show you are wrong, eventually. Keep siding with Nestle and PepsiCo. You will eventually lose.

Oh wow I didn’t realize there was no soda in Europe. That’s crazy! No wonder European are so healthy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those of you that think the government should be responsible for the obesity crisis, what do you propose they do? Ban certain foods or ingredients? Outlaw cheese puffs and potato chips, force people to exercise? There’s no possible way to legislate will power. Look how difficult it was even to get people to wear masks or get vaccinated. Look what happened during prohibition when government outlawed booze. They can get rid of subsidies, raise minimum wage, and make healthcare more accessible, and maybe even educate better, but in the end, they can’t just take away junk food or forbid people from dining at Disney.

I’m very thin and athletic and eat healthfully 95% of the time, but once in awhile, I too would like a donut or ice cream or French fry. I’m not addicted to these things but I do enjoy them on occasion.

Not OP but I propose:

Significant, large-scale taxes on junk food and soda, with the taxes going to food education and healthcare (essentially the tobacco tax model).

Removal of corn (syrup) subsidies.

Subsidies to farmers who make vegetables and fruit for consumption.

Lawsuits and settlement agreements with the largest junk food manufacturers (again like tobacco)

Restrictions on sales to under 18-year-olds

This all could be done and would have measurable and likely immediate public health impact. We have tobacco as an example. We know this works. But all the "git yer hands off my junk food it's totally free will" addicts in this thread are emblematic of the resistance this will face.

Individual cities/counties have tried all of the above steps I laid out. They have largely been defeated by malignant corporations who pour money into efforts to defeat the measures. They don't even have to do the dirty work themselves, they get people like the PPs to do it for them.

It’s so incredibly hard to take you seriously when you characterize the thread like this…it makes you seem like you are not well-versed in the English language, or logic, or both.

Too bad. I'm done coddling you people with your wildly outdated understanding of public health and devotion to the altar of junk food. I call it like it is. You are just like the pro-mass-shooting gun nuts. I don't care if you don't think of yourselves like rabid gun nuts. You are just like them at the core, both devoted to doing the dirty work of overtly bad corporations.

Freak out all you want. I don't care. History will show you are wrong, eventually. Keep siding with Nestle and PepsiCo. You will eventually lose.

Right…so, you’re the person who needed the thread explained to her like a five-year-old? Because you weren’t able to keep up with what people were actually talking about? And then even after it was explained to you, you still are not able to tell the difference between the two sides of the argument and who is a proponent for what? Amazing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those of you that think the government should be responsible for the obesity crisis, what do you propose they do? Ban certain foods or ingredients? Outlaw cheese puffs and potato chips, force people to exercise? There’s no possible way to legislate will power. Look how difficult it was even to get people to wear masks or get vaccinated. Look what happened during prohibition when government outlawed booze. They can get rid of subsidies, raise minimum wage, and make healthcare more accessible, and maybe even educate better, but in the end, they can’t just take away junk food or forbid people from dining at Disney.

I’m very thin and athletic and eat healthfully 95% of the time, but once in awhile, I too would like a donut or ice cream or French fry. I’m not addicted to these things but I do enjoy them on occasion.

Not OP but I propose:

Significant, large-scale taxes on junk food and soda, with the taxes going to food education and healthcare (essentially the tobacco tax model).

Removal of corn (syrup) subsidies.

Subsidies to farmers who make vegetables and fruit for consumption.

Lawsuits and settlement agreements with the largest junk food manufacturers (again like tobacco)

Restrictions on sales to under 18-year-olds

This all could be done and would have measurable and likely immediate public health impact. We have tobacco as an example. We know this works. But all the "git yer hands off my junk food it's totally free will" addicts in this thread are emblematic of the resistance this will face.

Individual cities/counties have tried all of the above steps I laid out. They have largely been defeated by malignant corporations who pour money into efforts to defeat the measures. They don't even have to do the dirty work themselves, they get people like the PPs to do it for them.

It’s so incredibly hard to take you seriously when you characterize the thread like this…it makes you seem like you are not well-versed in the English language, or logic, or both.

Too bad. I'm done coddling you people with your wildly outdated understanding of public health and devotion to the altar of junk food. I call it like it is. You are just like the pro-mass-shooting gun nuts. I don't care if you don't think of yourselves like rabid gun nuts. You are just like them at the core, both devoted to doing the dirty work of overtly bad corporations.

Freak out all you want. I don't care. History will show you are wrong, eventually. Keep siding with Nestle and PepsiCo. You will eventually lose.

Right…so, you’re the person who needed the thread explained to her like a five-year-old? Because you weren’t able to keep up with what people were actually talking about? And then even after it was explained to you, you still are not able to tell the difference between the two sides of the argument and who is a proponent for what? Amazing.

Oh, we understand you and this thread just fine. Trust.

[Anonymous]

I haven’t noticed Europeans drinking gallons of Coke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For those of you that think the government should be responsible for the obesity crisis, what do you propose they do? Ban certain foods or ingredients? Outlaw cheese puffs and potato chips, force people to exercise? There’s no possible way to legislate will power. Look how difficult it was even to get people to wear masks or get vaccinated. Look what happened during prohibition when government outlawed booze. They can get rid of subsidies, raise minimum wage, and make healthcare more accessible, and maybe even educate better, but in the end, they can’t just take away junk food or forbid people from dining at Disney.

I’m very thin and athletic and eat healthfully 95% of the time, but once in awhile, I too would like a donut or ice cream or French fry. I’m not addicted to these things but I do enjoy them on occasion.

Not OP but I propose:

Significant, large-scale taxes on junk food and soda, with the taxes going to food education and healthcare (essentially the tobacco tax model).

Removal of corn (syrup) subsidies.

Subsidies to farmers who make vegetables and fruit for consumption.

Lawsuits and settlement agreements with the largest junk food manufacturers (again like tobacco)

Restrictions on sales to under 18-year-olds

This all could be done and would have measurable and likely immediate public health impact. We have tobacco as an example. We know this works. But all the "git yer hands off my junk food it's totally free will" addicts in this thread are emblematic of the resistance this will face.

Individual cities/counties have tried all of the above steps I laid out. They have largely been defeated by malignant corporations who pour money into efforts to defeat the measures. They don't even have to do the dirty work themselves, they get people like the PPs to do it for them.

It’s so incredibly hard to take you seriously when you characterize the thread like this…it makes you seem like you are not well-versed in the English language, or logic, or both.

Too bad. I'm done coddling you people with your wildly outdated understanding of public health and devotion to the altar of junk food. I call it like it is. You are just like the pro-mass-shooting gun nuts. I don't care if you don't think of yourselves like rabid gun nuts. You are just like them at the core, both devoted to doing the dirty work of overtly bad corporations.

Freak out all you want. I don't care. History will show you are wrong, eventually. Keep siding with Nestle and PepsiCo. You will eventually lose.

Right…so, you’re the person who needed the thread explained to her like a five-year-old? Because you weren’t able to keep up with what people were actually talking about? And then even after it was explained to you, you still are not able to tell the difference between the two sides of the argument and who is a proponent for what? Amazing.

Oh, we understand you and this thread just fine. Trust.

Not judging by your weirdly-confused earlier posts, but sure.

[Anonymous]

You would rather lash out at an anonymous stranger than admit you are an enthusiastic backer of Nestle's dirty work, but you go ahead believing I'm the confused one. I mean, that is sort of inline with your whole "mah freedoms", 40-year-old science take on junk food, so it makes sense.

[Anonymous]

I do give a f*** about what I eat. I don't give a f*** about what other people eat.