Stop the FCV (DA) and McLean (ECNL) hate

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Anonymous wrote:The poll back questioning whether or not Bobby was actually posting mentioned his prestigious coaching license that only 14 coaches have.

Well they must have been psychic because he just tweeted out just receiving it. LOL

And this is why FCV gets trashed.

Because people’s know? And he’s received a certification that few in the US have? That’s envy why FCV gets trashed!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The poll back questioning whether or not Bobby was actually posting mentioned his prestigious coaching license that only 14 coaches have.

Well they must have been psychic because he just tweeted out just receiving it. LOL

And this is why FCV gets trashed.

Because people’s know? And he’s received a certification that few in the US have? That’s envy why FCV gets trashed!

He just received it. He just tweeted just receiving it.

Only coaches would know he was being awarded. Bobby doesn’t talk with parents so this would not be common sideline knowledge.

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Anonymous wrote:We are happy at FCV. If DA, coaches rotate so you get a variety, including Bobby. He’s a great coach. Don’t let the board trolls fool you. He’s not a friend though, he’s a coach. He does keep it light sometimes, he does kick it around with the girls including demonstrations. Some like him, some don’t. It varies. He’s not a National Team coach because he can’t coach. MU parents are bitter. I’ve seen many, many that were not offered and begin disrespecting the club and coaches.

Christian, Bobby, Marvin, Emma, Gus are all exceptional coaches with more history of playing and coaching education than ANY club in DMV.

What is the story with him telling a player they were an embarrassment to the DA? I heard Gus yells curse words at his players. Are these stories true or made up by the trolls?

Trolls

LMAO - OMG. Now you are flat out lying to protect FCV. Hundreds of parents have seen this behavior from the FCV coaches. Do not believe anything the FCV cheerleaders tell you.

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Anonymous wrote:What do people think of the Mclean commitment list? Few ECNL/DA clubs across the nation can match or exceed.

Aleigh Gambone University of North Carolina Chapel Hill McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Angela Caloia Harvard University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Cayla White University of Virginia McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Courtney Brown Troy University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Ella Gantman Princeton University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Faith Lee Air Force Academy McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Gabriella Nastasi Morehead State University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Holly Weber Virginia Tech University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Isabella DeLew Cornell University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Jordan Beverina Columbia University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Julia Leas Georgetown University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Kendall Robertson Rice University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Macy Monticello University of Wisconsin McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Mia Pham James Madison University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Nora O'Connor New Jersey Institute of Technology McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Rebekah Myers Elon University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Serena Pham University of Alabama McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Claire Kaplan Hamilton College McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Danielle Soto Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Margaux Ameer Tufts University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Ashley Hong Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Cadyn Westhoff Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Samantha Odeh Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Sophie Tran Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Zoe Tran Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL

Congratulations to those girls. This is an example of a super team formed when there were only 2 club options for top level soccer in the area. The talent used to be very concentrated. For the younger girls the talent is spread across 6-7 DA/ECNL teams.

A factor to consider here is where would these girls have gone to school without soccer? Many of them may have gone to same level school for other reasons (academics or connections of parents or their private high schools). McLean soccer is full of very well connected families and many of these families have many college options for their kids regardless of sports. Point being that lists like these don’t always tell the whole story especially when the application is very strong in other facets than sports.

This is not Varsity Blues. UNC, UVA, Georgetown, Princeton and Wisconsin do not recruit you unless you can help them win an NCAA title. If Obama's daughter couldn't get on Harvard or Princeton's team no matter how strong the Obama connections are. At this level, you need to be a stand out player. Obviously, academic institutions like Harvard, Columbia and Princeton require strong academics but connections only go so far. Playing and standing out on an elite ECNL team is the main driver. This is not about going to school. This is about going to school and playing for an elite NCAA DI team that will compete for the championship.

You need to throttle down a little bit. This isn't football or basketball we're talking about.
While you can use soccer as a hook to get into an Ivy or other top academic institution, you can't get in without being able to do the work (or least seem like you can do the work).
Winning a soccer championship doesn't move the needle much for an institution; therefore, schools (especially those with high academic standards)aren't going to go for a "riskier" athlete to play soccer no matter how elite their ECNL team was.

You are a complete moron. Please move on to other forums and try to educate. As for this forum, you have proven yourself to be inept at understanding college sports. Sorry but college coaches at most DI program are building programs to win titles. Some schools have to do so with other requirements, i.e. academics (Ivies, Stanford), Service (Service academies) or religion (ND and BYU). It is assumed that players can meet the basic qualifications but to get a sport on the team, they need to be able to play. Your comment that this kids would have gotten in without having played soccer at the ECNL level is asinine at best. Princeton, Harvard, Air Force, UNC, UVA and UW are not giving up a lot on the team because some applicant can kick a ball. The caches of these teams are flying out to to the ECNL/DA playoffs to find girls who can play. If the girls can meet the academic or other requirements then they get recruited. To assume that Dorrance at UNC is not recruiting to win another NCAA title just makes you foolish. Please go away.

Let’s try this again. McLean families have other factors that significantly affect these lists. Period. Ivy League and similar academic institutions are not watering down standards by any significance solely for soccer stars. So for the player on this list that is going to Harvard, for example, soccer is not a top factor for her admission. If you don’t recognize this, you have a lot to educate yourself about. We are not talking about the soccer powerhouses here that make soccer ability priority one.

In fact, look at the schools Bethesda boys and girls “commit” to. Same influential parent pool and same level of academic institutions for their commits.

Private school, grades, legacy and network are playing bigger roles here than soccer for many of these commits. I am not advocating for it, I am just stating the reality.

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Hope you realize that McLean will only take players that have the potential to play in college anyway. It's not like they took random players who just happened to kick a ball and molded them from the ground up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are happy at FCV. If DA, coaches rotate so you get a variety, including Bobby. He’s a great coach. Don’t let the board trolls fool you. He’s not a friend though, he’s a coach. He does keep it light sometimes, he does kick it around with the girls including demonstrations. Some like him, some don’t. It varies. He’s not a National Team coach because he can’t coach. MU parents are bitter. I’ve seen many, many that were not offered and begin disrespecting the club and coaches.

Christian, Bobby, Marvin, Emma, Gus are all exceptional coaches with more history of playing and coaching education than ANY club in DMV.

What is the story with him telling a player they were an embarrassment to the DA? I heard Gus yells curse words at his players. Are these stories true or made up by the trolls?

Parents heard the one outburst in game and players on both teams heard him say it to one of his players.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are happy at FCV. If DA, coaches rotate so you get a variety, including Bobby. He’s a great coach. Don’t let the board trolls fool you. He’s not a friend though, he’s a coach. He does keep it light sometimes, he does kick it around with the girls including demonstrations. Some like him, some don’t. It varies. He’s not a National Team coach because he can’t coach. MU parents are bitter. I’ve seen many, many that were not offered and begin disrespecting the club and coaches.

Christian, Bobby, Marvin, Emma, Gus are all exceptional coaches with more history of playing and coaching education than ANY club in DMV.

What is the story with him telling a player they were an embarrassment to the DA? I heard Gus yells curse words at his players. Are these stories true or made up by the trolls?

Trolls

LMAO - OMG. Now you are flat out lying to protect FCV. Hundreds of parents have seen this behavior from the FCV coaches. Do not believe anything the FCV cheerleaders tell you.

100s? If both parents were in attendance, that’s 50 players. Almost 3 teams were at a game where this mystery statement was made? C’mon.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We are happy at FCV. If DA, coaches rotate so you get a variety, including Bobby. He’s a great coach. Don’t let the board trolls fool you. He’s not a friend though, he’s a coach. He does keep it light sometimes, he does kick it around with the girls including demonstrations. Some like him, some don’t. It varies. He’s not a National Team coach because he can’t coach. MU parents are bitter. I’ve seen many, many that were not offered and begin disrespecting the club and coaches.

Christian, Bobby, Marvin, Emma, Gus are all exceptional coaches with more history of playing and coaching education than ANY club in DMV.

What is the story with him telling a player they were an embarrassment to the DA? I heard Gus yells curse words at his players. Are these stories true or made up by the trolls?

Parents heard the one outburst in game and players on both teams heard him say it to one of his players.

What age group? I’ve never heard anything of the sort OR parents talking about it. Odd because parents talk, a lot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are happy at FCV. If DA, coaches rotate so you get a variety, including Bobby. He’s a great coach. Don’t let the board trolls fool you. He’s not a friend though, he’s a coach. He does keep it light sometimes, he does kick it around with the girls including demonstrations. Some like him, some don’t. It varies. He’s not a National Team coach because he can’t coach. MU parents are bitter. I’ve seen many, many that were not offered and begin disrespecting the club and coaches.

Christian, Bobby, Marvin, Emma, Gus are all exceptional coaches with more history of playing and coaching education than ANY club in DMV.

What is the story with him telling a player they were an embarrassment to the DA? I heard Gus yells curse words at his players. Are these stories true or made up by the trolls?

Parents heard the one outburst in game and players on both teams heard him say it to one of his players.

What age group? I’ve never heard anything of the sort OR parents talking about it. Odd because parents talk, a lot.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What do people think of the Mclean commitment list? Few ECNL/DA clubs across the nation can match or exceed.

Aleigh Gambone University of North Carolina Chapel Hill McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Angela Caloia Harvard University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Cayla White University of Virginia McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Courtney Brown Troy University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Ella Gantman Princeton University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Faith Lee Air Force Academy McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Gabriella Nastasi Morehead State University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Holly Weber Virginia Tech University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Isabella DeLew Cornell University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Jordan Beverina Columbia University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Julia Leas Georgetown University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Kendall Robertson Rice University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Macy Monticello University of Wisconsin McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Mia Pham James Madison University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Nora O'Connor New Jersey Institute of Technology McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Rebekah Myers Elon University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Serena Pham University of Alabama McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Claire Kaplan Hamilton College McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Danielle Soto Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Margaux Ameer Tufts University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Ashley Hong Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Cadyn Westhoff Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Samantha Odeh Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Sophie Tran Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Zoe Tran Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL

Congratulations to those girls. This is an example of a super team formed when there were only 2 club options for top level soccer in the area. The talent used to be very concentrated. For the younger girls the talent is spread across 6-7 DA/ECNL teams.

A factor to consider here is where would these girls have gone to school without soccer? Many of them may have gone to same level school for other reasons (academics or connections of parents or their private high schools). McLean soccer is full of very well connected families and many of these families have many college options for their kids regardless of sports. Point being that lists like these don’t always tell the whole story especially when the application is very strong in other facets than sports.

This is not Varsity Blues. UNC, UVA, Georgetown, Princeton and Wisconsin do not recruit you unless you can help them win an NCAA title. If Obama's daughter couldn't get on Harvard or Princeton's team no matter how strong the Obama connections are. At this level, you need to be a stand out player. Obviously, academic institutions like Harvard, Columbia and Princeton require strong academics but connections only go so far. Playing and standing out on an elite ECNL team is the main driver. This is not about going to school. This is about going to school and playing for an elite NCAA DI team that will compete for the championship.

You need to throttle down a little bit. This isn't football or basketball we're talking about.
While you can use soccer as a hook to get into an Ivy or other top academic institution, you can't get in without being able to do the work (or least seem like you can do the work).
Winning a soccer championship doesn't move the needle much for an institution; therefore, schools (especially those with high academic standards)aren't going to go for a "riskier" athlete to play soccer no matter how elite their ECNL team was.

You are a complete moron. Please move on to other forums and try to educate. As for this forum, you have proven yourself to be inept at understanding college sports. Sorry but college coaches at most DI program are building programs to win titles. Some schools have to do so with other requirements, i.e. academics (Ivies, Stanford), Service (Service academies) or religion (ND and BYU). It is assumed that players can meet the basic qualifications but to get a sport on the team, they need to be able to play. Your comment that this kids would have gotten in without having played soccer at the ECNL level is asinine at best. Princeton, Harvard, Air Force, UNC, UVA and UW are not giving up a lot on the team because some applicant can kick a ball. The caches of these teams are flying out to to the ECNL/DA playoffs to find girls who can play. If the girls can meet the academic or other requirements then they get recruited. To assume that Dorrance at UNC is not recruiting to win another NCAA title just makes you foolish. Please go away.

Let’s try this again. McLean families have other factors that significantly affect these lists. Period. Ivy League and similar academic institutions are not watering down standards by any significance solely for soccer stars. So for the player on this list that is going to Harvard, for example, soccer is not a top factor for her admission. If you don’t recognize this, you have a lot to educate yourself about. We are not talking about the soccer powerhouses here that make soccer ability priority one.

In fact, look at the schools Bethesda boys and girls “commit” to. Same influential parent pool and same level of academic institutions for their commits.

Private school, grades, legacy and network are playing bigger roles here than soccer for many of these commits. I am not advocating for it, I am just stating the reality.

Just stop, idiot. You are the only one saying anything about "watering down." Look at the background of any kid playing on Harvard, Stanford, Princeton or Columbia's respective women's soccer teams. Most if not all played elite soccer. They also had strong grades, SAT scores and other intangibles that help them in admissions. The reason these girls are at these schools playing soccer is not because of connections, legacy or a 1600 SAT score. They are on the teams because they can play soccer. Period! Those other things might have helped them gain admission but they are playing soccer because they demonstrated that they could play at a high level. Just read the article ans STFU. All of the US players played ECNL and the foreigners played elite level through national team play or playing for the local club. Harvard's coach will lose his job if the team is not competitive and the team will not be competitive if does not attract great soccer players that can meet the admission requirement. How many times does that have to be said.

https://www.gocrimson.com/sports/wsoc/2019-20/releases/20190502ij2onl

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Did fcv win a second playoff game yet?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did fcv win a second playoff game yet?

Dude, their teams have only played 7 games so far. Be patient, it can still happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What do people think of the Mclean commitment list? Few ECNL/DA clubs across the nation can match or exceed.

Aleigh Gambone University of North Carolina Chapel Hill McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Angela Caloia Harvard University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Cayla White University of Virginia McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Courtney Brown Troy University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Ella Gantman Princeton University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Faith Lee Air Force Academy McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Gabriella Nastasi Morehead State University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Holly Weber Virginia Tech University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Isabella DeLew Cornell University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Jordan Beverina Columbia University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Julia Leas Georgetown University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Kendall Robertson Rice University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Macy Monticello University of Wisconsin McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Mia Pham James Madison University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Nora O'Connor New Jersey Institute of Technology McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Rebekah Myers Elon University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Serena Pham University of Alabama McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Claire Kaplan Hamilton College McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Danielle Soto Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Margaux Ameer Tufts University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Ashley Hong Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Cadyn Westhoff Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Samantha Odeh Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Sophie Tran Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Zoe Tran Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL

Congratulations to those girls. This is an example of a super team formed when there were only 2 club options for top level soccer in the area. The talent used to be very concentrated. For the younger girls the talent is spread across 6-7 DA/ECNL teams.

A factor to consider here is where would these girls have gone to school without soccer? Many of them may have gone to same level school for other reasons (academics or connections of parents or their private high schools). McLean soccer is full of very well connected families and many of these families have many college options for their kids regardless of sports. Point being that lists like these don’t always tell the whole story especially when the application is very strong in other facets than sports.

This is not Varsity Blues. UNC, UVA, Georgetown, Princeton and Wisconsin do not recruit you unless you can help them win an NCAA title. If Obama's daughter couldn't get on Harvard or Princeton's team no matter how strong the Obama connections are. At this level, you need to be a stand out player. Obviously, academic institutions like Harvard, Columbia and Princeton require strong academics but connections only go so far. Playing and standing out on an elite ECNL team is the main driver. This is not about going to school. This is about going to school and playing for an elite NCAA DI team that will compete for the championship.

You need to throttle down a little bit. This isn't football or basketball we're talking about.
While you can use soccer as a hook to get into an Ivy or other top academic institution, you can't get in without being able to do the work (or least seem like you can do the work).
Winning a soccer championship doesn't move the needle much for an institution; therefore, schools (especially those with high academic standards)aren't going to go for a "riskier" athlete to play soccer no matter how elite their ECNL team was.

You are a complete moron. Please move on to other forums and try to educate. As for this forum, you have proven yourself to be inept at understanding college sports. Sorry but college coaches at most DI program are building programs to win titles. Some schools have to do so with other requirements, i.e. academics (Ivies, Stanford), Service (Service academies) or religion (ND and BYU). It is assumed that players can meet the basic qualifications but to get a sport on the team, they need to be able to play. Your comment that this kids would have gotten in without having played soccer at the ECNL level is asinine at best. Princeton, Harvard, Air Force, UNC, UVA and UW are not giving up a lot on the team because some applicant can kick a ball. The caches of these teams are flying out to to the ECNL/DA playoffs to find girls who can play. If the girls can meet the academic or other requirements then they get recruited. To assume that Dorrance at UNC is not recruiting to win another NCAA title just makes you foolish. Please go away.

College coaches want to win titles. Duh!

But here's the thing, if you think the ADs and admission departments are gonna let their women's soccer coaches run wild likes its Southwest Conferfence Football, and let in questionable students because they played on an ECNL team so they can win a soccer title, you're cracked. Moreover, there is a significant difference between being competitive in the Ivy League and competing for a women's national soccer championship --- Princeton clocked in with an RPI of 27, Columbia was the next closet in the 90s --- not exactly on the cusp of a championship, so I'm guessing the players their getting are not that great (relative to other schools).

But, please expert continue to name drop and name call as you educate the rest of us.

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Anonymous wrote:What do people think of the Mclean commitment list? Few ECNL/DA clubs across the nation can match or exceed.

Aleigh Gambone University of North Carolina Chapel Hill McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Angela Caloia Harvard University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Cayla White University of Virginia McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Courtney Brown Troy University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Ella Gantman Princeton University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Faith Lee Air Force Academy McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Gabriella Nastasi Morehead State University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Holly Weber Virginia Tech University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Isabella DeLew Cornell University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Jordan Beverina Columbia University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Julia Leas Georgetown University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Kendall Robertson Rice University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Macy Monticello University of Wisconsin McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Mia Pham James Madison University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Nora O'Connor New Jersey Institute of Technology McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Rebekah Myers Elon University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Serena Pham University of Alabama McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Claire Kaplan Hamilton College McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Danielle Soto Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Margaux Ameer Tufts University McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Ashley Hong Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Cadyn Westhoff Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Samantha Odeh Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Sophie Tran Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL
Zoe Tran Uncommitted McLean YSA U18/19 ECNL

Congratulations to those girls. This is an example of a super team formed when there were only 2 club options for top level soccer in the area. The talent used to be very concentrated. For the younger girls the talent is spread across 6-7 DA/ECNL teams.

A factor to consider here is where would these girls have gone to school without soccer? Many of them may have gone to same level school for other reasons (academics or connections of parents or their private high schools). McLean soccer is full of very well connected families and many of these families have many college options for their kids regardless of sports. Point being that lists like these don’t always tell the whole story especially when the application is very strong in other facets than sports.

This is not Varsity Blues. UNC, UVA, Georgetown, Princeton and Wisconsin do not recruit you unless you can help them win an NCAA title. If Obama's daughter couldn't get on Harvard or Princeton's team no matter how strong the Obama connections are. At this level, you need to be a stand out player. Obviously, academic institutions like Harvard, Columbia and Princeton require strong academics but connections only go so far. Playing and standing out on an elite ECNL team is the main driver. This is not about going to school. This is about going to school and playing for an elite NCAA DI team that will compete for the championship.

You need to throttle down a little bit. This isn't football or basketball we're talking about.
While you can use soccer as a hook to get into an Ivy or other top academic institution, you can't get in without being able to do the work (or least seem like you can do the work).
Winning a soccer championship doesn't move the needle much for an institution; therefore, schools (especially those with high academic standards)aren't going to go for a "riskier" athlete to play soccer no matter how elite their ECNL team was.

You are a complete moron. Please move on to other forums and try to educate. As for this forum, you have proven yourself to be inept at understanding college sports. Sorry but college coaches at most DI program are building programs to win titles. Some schools have to do so with other requirements, i.e. academics (Ivies, Stanford), Service (Service academies) or religion (ND and BYU). It is assumed that players can meet the basic qualifications but to get a sport on the team, they need to be able to play. Your comment that this kids would have gotten in without having played soccer at the ECNL level is asinine at best. Princeton, Harvard, Air Force, UNC, UVA and UW are not giving up a lot on the team because some applicant can kick a ball. The caches of these teams are flying out to to the ECNL/DA playoffs to find girls who can play. If the girls can meet the academic or other requirements then they get recruited. To assume that Dorrance at UNC is not recruiting to win another NCAA title just makes you foolish. Please go away.

College coaches want to win titles. Duh!

But here's the thing, if you think the ADs and admission departments are gonna let their women's soccer coaches run wild likes its Southwest Conferfence Football, and let in questionable students because they played on an ECNL team so they can win a soccer title, you're cracked. Moreover, there is a significant difference between being competitive in the Ivy League and competing for a women's national soccer championship --- Princeton clocked in with an RPI of 27, Columbia was the next closet in the 90s --- not exactly on the cusp of a championship, so I'm guessing the players their getting are not that great (relative to other schools).

But, please expert continue to name drop and name call as you educate the rest of us.

I would check the bios of those players before you start saying “they aren’t that great.” I believe Harvard has the #1 tds recruit in the country for next year. UPenn and Princeton are traditionally competitive nationally.

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Harvard's 2020 recruiting class includes two national team players. I think Ivy league recruits have to be great soccer players and smart kids.

Not to get too far off topic, but it seems like there are a lot more kids these days who can check both boxes (smart and athletic) than when I was in HS.