A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently Democrats feel insane trolling after drawing Trump supporters in will change their minds.

We aren't supporting him because we love his charisma, we are supporting his policies despite his charisma.

Democrats created the foundation of the corruption you are obstructing the federal government from correcting. This will cause a chain reaction causing one group of voters to double down invisible to Coastal Elites.

Meh.

Yeah that’s the problem. You don’t care about any decency, civility, decorum of high office, corruption, fraud, lies and attack on democracy or even being a Russia puppet . Then what morals you have ? The so called party of morals.

But for the unpopular tax cuts for the rich and harassing of brown refugees THERE is nothing he has done. Everything is just a pie in the sky, reality TV marketing. No wall has been built but he lies about it. Chinese trade deficit is at the highest but he lies that its great. I can go on and on.

Have some shame and basic integrity, otherwise you are just whores selling your soul to the conman.

DP: Reported this stupid and hateful post

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Anonymous wrote:No POC will vote for t-Rump in 2020. Same goes for women.

I'm a person of color and I will be voting for Trump in 2020. My wife, who I can assure you is an actual woman as she gave birth to our children, is also voting for Trump in 2020.

Well you are one of the small minority. Vote for the conman, white supremacist all you want but he won't respect you.

DP. You can keep repeating your utter nonsense, but no one is buying it. Well, those of us with any common sense, that is. You just sound like a petulant child who isn’t getting your way. Not a good look.

+1.

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, but the Petulant Children's Party is making that choice easier by the day.

Many I know voted for the conman but the petulant display by the liar in the white house is making the choice easier. Trump's approval has fallen in EVERY SINGLE STATE since 2017. And his overall avg approval never crossed 43%.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/?ex_cid=rrpromo

https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/

You're using a source that had HRC winning in 2016 election. You never learn, do you?

Ha ha, you cultists don’t believe in any poll because all of them shows the loser losing to pretty much anyone in 2020. I bet you would believe in the polls if even one of them shows him winning. I don’t believe in any single poll. I do believe in avg of polls and they were right in 2016 and will be right in 2020. You don’t get stats and polls and odds. Too late to learn. So believe what you what, he is going down as the worst ever in American history.

This may be the case but it doesn't mean he isn't going to win again. If you think he is going to lose to 'pretty much anyone' in 2020 you are kidding yourself. Beto, Kamala, Booker, Warren, Buttieg.....none of these people will ever be president of the united states. It's just not going to happen. Biden, maybe I guess but I feel like his full frontal style will play right into DJT's hands. He is going to use the exact same playbook as last time and unless democrats get it together, he is going to win again. You may think that anyone else is better but I think that is bubble thinking. He won last time without convincing a single person in the DC area that he should be president. Could have lost every vote and it wouldn't have mattered. He is not running a campaign to please you and you may not realize it but he has actually turned into a pretty good campaign manager.

The exact same play book as last time won’t work because Hillary isn’t the candidate and there is no last minute email case being reopened. People are tired of a troll for a president whose FT Job is tweeting. The lazy ass conman has no more “newness” and benefit of the doubt. It is reflected in his approval never climbing above 43% avg. Anyone who could read and care about the country and read the Mueller report are convinced that he is Russian puppet. His taxes are coming out one way or another and that will expose him as the lifelong fraud that he is. Stop deluding and believe in America because we still have a majority that of people who are decent, patriotic, diverse and believe in our democracy and ideals. The cult may be with the traitor but you guys are barely 40% and that’s not enough to even be selected by the EC.

??? Why are you assuming that Trump needs to run the same playbook? If anything the past two years has shown Trump to be incredibly resilient dealing with a variety of people who thought they could go up against Trump and win. Comey thought he could do it, and got fired from the FBI. Peter Strzok and Lisa Page thought they could do it, fired and fired. Andrew McCabe? Fired. Michael Avenatti? In jail. Michael Cohen? In jail. Elizabeth Warren? Made a laughing stock of the country. Pelosi? The Democratic caucus is fracturing under her leadership as she fights to keep control over the progressive wing of the party. Beto? Off somewhere skateboarding and being non-relevant. Bernie? He is too busy looking over his shoulder to make sure the DNC doesn't cheat him out of yet another nomination. That leaves Joe Biden, who has only avoided embarrassment because he has been out of the public eye for the past 2+ years. Consequently, he has the best chance against Trump. But judging by how the others have faired going up against Trump, I'd put the odds on Trump to come up with something effective against Biden in the next 18 months.

That’s a whole another level of delusion. Many quit and most wanted to protect America from the mad man. He is down to a third rate team of poseurs. Which world are you living in?

Pelosi is punching the blowhard between his legs and he doesn’t learn any lesson. With his low approval and an America that wants normalcy back he is not on a garden path to win.

I only hope he doesn’t destroy America before he exits a shamed man.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently Democrats feel insane trolling after drawing Trump supporters in will change their minds.

We aren't supporting him because we love his charisma, we are supporting his policies despite his charisma.

Democrats created the foundation of the corruption you are obstructing the federal government from correcting. This will cause a chain reaction causing one group of voters to double down invisible to Coastal Elites.

Meh.

Yeah that’s the problem. You don’t care about any decency, civility, decorum of high office, corruption, fraud, lies and attack on democracy or even being a Russia puppet . Then what morals you have ? The so called party of morals.

But for the unpopular tax cuts for the rich and harassing of brown refugees THERE is nothing he has done. Everything is just a pie in the sky, reality TV marketing. No wall has been built but he lies about it. Chinese trade deficit is at the highest but he lies that its great. I can go on and on.

Have some shame and basic integrity, otherwise you are just whores selling your soul to the conman.

DP: Reported this stupid and hateful post

There is no hate in that post but just truth. You can’t handle truth. I am sad the country has come down to this. It is sadness at the so much lies, hate and corruption coming from the highest office. Why don’t you be honest for a minute ? Would you be OK if Obama did all that Drumof is doing? If not, then you are the issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Apparently Democrats feel insane trolling after drawing Trump supporters in will change their minds.

We aren't supporting him because we love his charisma, we are supporting his policies despite his charisma.

Democrats created the foundation of the corruption you are obstructing the federal government from correcting. This will cause a chain reaction causing one group of voters to double down invisible to Coastal Elites.

Meh.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/30/politics/trump-trade-analysis/index.html

Americans have turned against Trump on trade

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/22/trumps-trade-war-gets-poor-marks-in-poll-could-threaten-his-support-in-2020.html

Trump’s trade war polls badly in key states like Pennsylvania, threatening his support for 2020

https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-u-s-china-trade-war-drags-on-risk-to-trump-and-gop-grows-11559153740

As U.S.-China Trade War Drags On, Risk to Trump and GOP Grows

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently Democrats feel insane trolling after drawing Trump supporters in will change their minds.

We aren't supporting him because we love his charisma, we are supporting his policies despite his charisma.

Democrats created the foundation of the corruption you are obstructing the federal government from correcting. This will cause a chain reaction causing one group of voters to double down invisible to Coastal Elites.

Meh.

Yeah that’s the problem. You don’t care about any decency, civility, decorum of high office, corruption, fraud, lies and attack on democracy or even being a Russia puppet . Then what morals you have ? The so called party of morals.

But for the unpopular tax cuts for the rich and harassing of brown refugees THERE is nothing he has done. Everything is just a pie in the sky, reality TV marketing. No wall has been built but he lies about it. Chinese trade deficit is at the highest but he lies that its great. I can go on and on.

Have some shame and basic integrity, otherwise you are just whores selling your soul to the conman.

DP: Reported this stupid and hateful post

There is no hate in that post but just truth. You can’t handle truth. I am sad the country has come down to this. It is sadness at the so much lies, hate and corruption coming from the highest office. Why don’t you be honest for a minute ? Would you be OK if Obama did all that Drumof is doing? If not, then you are the issue.

IMO you are, using your own language, the whore selling your soul to the conman. Remember who was the President while the Russian interference took place? Remember who helped create and ignore ISIS? Remember who promoted anti-police rethoric and violence that resulted in dozens of cop deaths and increased murder rates in dozens of cities? Remember who stole health insurance from millions of Americans and imposed heavy fines on millions more for not being able to afford crazy high premiums?

Yup, Obama.

No wonder so many voters didn't want a Dem third term.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On the contrary, I think it's a brilliant move.

Frankly surprised he didn't think of it earlier.

This should have been part of NAFTA since the 90s, when Perot warned us about a certain giant sucking sound...

China is worlds largest economy, largest market(for many American companies too) , largest trader, and largest economy throughout human history (but for the times it was second to India) but for about 150 years.

China is a natural force and we can’t stop them. China was brought down by free slave labor and free plunder from native Americans. Free market will always find the best place to make things for the lowest cost. You try to be protective the cost rises to consumers, the company becomes complacent without global competitions and product quality suffers and the decline starts.

LOL, you are that China shill. Your arguments are so repetitive and idiotic that it's obvious whenever you post. Still trying to draw a connection between the slaves in the US and the economic collapse of insular China in the 19th century? I'm surprised that you have not mentioned that China has 5000 years of history. There is nothing unstoppable about China, nor does the US want to stop China so long as they play fairly on the world stage - the same way we don't try to stop Germany, Australia, or any of our other strong allies in the world. You'll notice that no one outside of Russia and North Korea speaks up in defense of China because China doesn't have any real friends on the world stage. To the extent that the US and the rest of the world trades with China only occur from the standpoint that we are tolerating China's misbehaviors up to a point. Now we come to that point where we can't tolerate them anymore and the rest of the world agrees.

Saying like it is doesn’t make me anyone’s shrill. In the long run, America with 5% of global market needs access to Chinese market and other Asian markets. We can’t be isolated to 5% market and be expected to prosper. That’s the reality we need to face. A smarter way to approach China is form an equally large internal trade zone, like TPP, and then challenge China. Fighting with our allies, neighbors and with China at the same time is stupid and it only harms us. Everyone sees us as the bully and not China because he doesn’t cooperate with anyone. Imagine that. EU, Canada and Mx consider America to be bigger bully thanChina. That’s what the “narcisstic expert of all things” has done successfully.

I'm not going to engage much beyond this one reply because I doubt that you are receptive to new ideas, as illustrated by the fact that you are using the same old tired arguments that you lost arguments with, in previous threads. I'm posting this for the benefit of other readers. You keep saying that American has 5% of the global market, by which I am assuming you are referencing population size. This is incorrect analysis on two levels: first, macro measurements for market size is defined by economic activity, not population. While the US only has less than 5% of the world's population, it represents about 24% of the world's GDP in nominal terms and 15% on PPP terms. Stating that America has only 5% of the global market is therefore plainly wrong and misleading. Secondly, America has access to a far larger market than just it's own domestic market, with fairly open trade access to cooperative trading partners all over the world including key Asian allies such as Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, and Malaysia, availing the US to substantially all major economic entities aside from China. In fact, the US's market access into China as it currently stands represents only 7.2% of all trade that the US does with its global trading partners and China is only the 3rd largest export market for the US, not the largest. For you to state 5% as the size of America's global market access is ignorant at best, and dishonest at worst.

As demonstrated above, the basis of your analysis on what is good or bad international trade policy is founded on a lack of fundamental knowledge, bad faith, or both, so I am not going to dignify it further with a response and just leave it here.

China is the largest market for GM, Boeing and dozens of other countries. GM will be bankrupt taking down the entire Midwest if China kicks ONE company out. China and India alone are 1/3 of global market. As their population is getting richer, any one not having access to them will become also ran.

US share of global GDP is declining from the 30% plus simply because as everyone gets rich then the share of gdp will eventually regress to the population size, even if the overall pie is growing.

But you don’t seem to understand this and come back with the Same old tired trite. next time try to be original and honest. Good luck.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Apparently Democrats feel insane trolling after drawing Trump supporters in will change their minds.

We aren't supporting him because we love his charisma, we are supporting his policies despite his charisma.

Democrats created the foundation of the corruption you are obstructing the federal government from correcting. This will cause a chain reaction causing one group of voters to double down invisible to Coastal Elites.

Meh.

Yeah that’s the problem. You don’t care about any decency, civility, decorum of high office, corruption, fraud, lies and attack on democracy or even being a Russia puppet . Then what morals you have ? The so called party of morals.

But for the unpopular tax cuts for the rich and harassing of brown refugees THERE is nothing he has done. Everything is just a pie in the sky, reality TV marketing. No wall has been built but he lies about it. Chinese trade deficit is at the highest but he lies that its great. I can go on and on.

Have some shame and basic integrity, otherwise you are just whores selling your soul to the conman.

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently Democrats feel insane trolling after drawing Trump supporters in will change their minds.

We aren't supporting him because we love his charisma, we are supporting his policies despite his charisma.

Democrats created the foundation of the corruption you are obstructing the federal government from correcting. This will cause a chain reaction causing one group of voters to double down invisible to Coastal Elites.

Meh.

Yeah that’s the problem. You don’t care about any decency, civility, decorum of high office, corruption, fraud, lies and attack on democracy or even being a Russia puppet . Then what morals you have ? The so called party of morals.

But for the unpopular tax cuts for the rich and harassing of brown refugees THERE is nothing he has done. Everything is just a pie in the sky, reality TV marketing. No wall has been built but he lies about it. Chinese trade deficit is at the highest but he lies that its great. I can go on and on.

Have some shame and basic integrity, otherwise you are just whores selling your soul to the conman.

DP: Reported this stupid and hateful post

There is no hate in that post but just truth. You can’t handle truth. I am sad the country has come down to this. It is sadness at the so much lies, hate and corruption coming from the highest office. Why don’t you be honest for a minute ? Would you be OK if Obama did all that Drumof is doing? If not, then you are the issue.

IMO you are, using your own language, the whore selling your soul to the conman. Remember who was the President while the Russian interference took place? Remember who helped create and ignore ISIS? Remember who promoted anti-police rethoric and violence that resulted in dozens of cop deaths and increased murder rates in dozens of cities? Remember who stole health insurance from millions of Americans and imposed heavy fines on millions more for not being able to afford crazy high premiums?

Yup, Obama.

No wonder so many voters didn't want a Dem third term.

Obama asked FBI to follow the trail and didn’t want to publicly announce that Trump is being investigated, which would have surely negatively influenced the voters, before the details emerge. There is no anti-police rhetoric, that’s just Australian channel talking points. When unarmed blacks are killed by cops for no reason , how is that right? ISIS was created by Bush when he created a vacuum in Iraq. Learn your history well.

You are venting BS about Obamacare. If Obamacare is so bad why couldn’t the fraud party and liar revoke it? Because it is so popular with Americans. So eventually we are gonna have universal healthcare.

Actually 3 million more voters wanted a third term BUT only a sliver in 3 states selected the Twitter troll via EC. Did you know your party has won the popular vote just once ( by one state) in over 30 years. So America isn’t behind the gop and certainly not behind the “precedent” who can’t spell president.

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Anonymous wrote:I mean jeez - Rasmussen (Rasmussen!) has Elizabeth Warren beating Trump in a general election

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html

Well, now if only "I have a plan" Warren can manage to secure the nomination in the Democratic primary race.

I find it hilarious, and a little sad, that democrats would point to current poll numbers as if it is meaningful in any way. What Democrats currently have is the euphoria of hope, thus far unexposed to any of the nasty infighting that will occur between now and the national convention to pick their nominee. What the voters have are not deep understandings of the candidates and their positions on issues, but fantastic idealized images of the perfect candidate that will defeat Trump. Look at this graph:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

Remember when Beto was so rad and awesome? Remember when Kamala Harris was so inspirational, walking out of those hearings in protest, what strength! Maybe Warren is pounding down beer in her kitchen to demonstrate her down-to-earthiness, or maybe she is just trying to forget her embarrassment. What we do see is that the two leading candidates for the Democratic Party is an old socialist, and a guy who has lost every single presidential run he ever attempted, and whose biggest campaign efforts to date amounts to an apology tour.

Now I'm not saying that Democrats can't pull one out of the bag, but as of now, I'm pretty optimistic that Trump will win in 2020.

Almost as pathetic as the loser MAGA who tries to post obscure Trump approval numbers.

At least you agree it is pathetic. Who says we can't get along. I'm optimistic that we can! Just keep your composure when Trump wins in 2020.

Yeah, I don’t push poll numbers around myself. But at least I understand what probability and error rate mean.

Enjoy your delusions while you can!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I mean jeez - Rasmussen (Rasmussen!) has Elizabeth Warren beating Trump in a general election

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html

Well, now if only "I have a plan" Warren can manage to secure the nomination in the Democratic primary race.

I find it hilarious, and a little sad, that democrats would point to current poll numbers as if it is meaningful in any way. What Democrats currently have is the euphoria of hope, thus far unexposed to any of the nasty infighting that will occur between now and the national convention to pick their nominee. What the voters have are not deep understandings of the candidates and their positions on issues, but fantastic idealized images of the perfect candidate that will defeat Trump. Look at this graph:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

Remember when Beto was so rad and awesome? Remember when Kamala Harris was so inspirational, walking out of those hearings in protest, what strength! Maybe Warren is pounding down beer in her kitchen to demonstrate her down-to-earthiness, or maybe she is just trying to forget her embarrassment. What we do see is that the two leading candidates for the Democratic Party is an old socialist, and a guy who has lost every single presidential run he ever attempted, and whose biggest campaign efforts to date amounts to an apology tour.

Now I'm not saying that Democrats can't pull one out of the bag, but as of now, I'm pretty optimistic that Trump will win in 2020.

+1.

Trump has many problems but also two big winds behind pushing him forward:

1) His results are actually pretty good.

Not to the Independents, college educated women and minorities. And they decide the election when he already has a 3 million votes deficit. 2018 showed PA,WI,MI are back in dem column. Az, TX,GA are the new battle grounds. Non cult Americans just want to see him gone. The cult alone can't win him 2020.

2) The Dem primary so far is about who's the craziest.

Maybe thats what the Australian channel and the cultists think.

Not what Americans are saying. A majority of Americans want universal healthcare.
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/08/28/most-americans-now-support-medicare-for-all-and-free-college-tuition.html

A majority of Americans want dreamers legalized and illegals legalized, EVEN IN fox news poll
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-83-percent-support-pathway-to-citizenship-for-illegal-immigrants

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean jeez - Rasmussen (Rasmussen!) has Elizabeth Warren beating Trump in a general election

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html

Well, now if only "I have a plan" Warren can manage to secure the nomination in the Democratic primary race.

I find it hilarious, and a little sad, that democrats would point to current poll numbers as if it is meaningful in any way. What Democrats currently have is the euphoria of hope, thus far unexposed to any of the nasty infighting that will occur between now and the national convention to pick their nominee. What the voters have are not deep understandings of the candidates and their positions on issues, but fantastic idealized images of the perfect candidate that will defeat Trump. Look at this graph:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

Remember when Beto was so rad and awesome? Remember when Kamala Harris was so inspirational, walking out of those hearings in protest, what strength! Maybe Warren is pounding down beer in her kitchen to demonstrate her down-to-earthiness, or maybe she is just trying to forget her embarrassment. What we do see is that the two leading candidates for the Democratic Party is an old socialist, and a guy who has lost every single presidential run he ever attempted, and whose biggest campaign efforts to date amounts to an apology tour.

Now I'm not saying that Democrats can't pull one out of the bag, but as of now, I'm pretty optimistic that Trump will win in 2020.

Almost as pathetic as the loser MAGA who tries to post obscure Trump approval numbers.

At least you agree it is pathetic. Who says we can't get along. I'm optimistic that we can! Just keep your composure when Trump wins in 2020.

Delusion: When someone can not make a case based on numbers, facts, reasons and simply declares that the most hated president (for his constant lies, incompetence, fraud and corruption)will WIN simply because you feel so.

[Anonymous]

Please stop talking about that cult thing...examine yourself first.

1) Funny enough, I am an independent, college-educated, woman and minority ... and the OP of this thread.

And we have heard of multiple similar posters during the thread -- perhaps you should listen a bit more about what results we see and appreciate.

2) Funny enough, I also favor, as a goal, both universal healthcare and comprehensive immigration reform. The problem is HOW. In both areas, what Dems are proposing is crazy -- abolishing the private healthcare that 200 million Americans have? That's a recipe for a major disaster. Promising free Medicare for all with no qualification or pay-in requirement? The country goes bankrupt. Abolish ICE? You must be kidding. Say merit-based systems are "racist"? That's racist itself. And on and on and on

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Apparently Democrats feel insane trolling after drawing Trump supporters in will change their minds.

We aren't supporting him because we love his charisma, we are supporting his policies despite his charisma.

Democrats created the foundation of the corruption you are obstructing the federal government from correcting. This will cause a chain reaction causing one group of voters to double down invisible to Coastal Elites.

Meh.

Yeah that’s the problem. You don’t care about any decency, civility, decorum of high office, corruption, fraud, lies and attack on democracy or even being a Russia puppet . Then what morals you have ? The so called party of morals.

But for the unpopular tax cuts for the rich and harassing of brown refugees THERE is nothing he has done. Everything is just a pie in the sky, reality TV marketing. No wall has been built but he lies about it. Chinese trade deficit is at the highest but he lies that its great. I can go on and on.

Have some shame and basic integrity, otherwise you are just whores selling your soul to the conman.

DP: Reported this stupid and hateful post

There is no hate in that post but just truth. You can’t handle truth. I am sad the country has come down to this. It is sadness at the so much lies, hate and corruption coming from the highest office. Why don’t you be honest for a minute ? Would you be OK if Obama did all that Drumof is doing? If not, then you are the issue.

IMO you are, using your own language, the whore selling your soul to the conman. Remember who was the President while the Russian interference took place? Remember who helped create and ignore ISIS? Remember who promoted anti-police rethoric and violence that resulted in dozens of cop deaths and increased murder rates in dozens of cities? Remember who stole health insurance from millions of Americans and imposed heavy fines on millions more for not being able to afford crazy high premiums?

Yup, Obama.

No wonder so many voters didn't want a Dem third term.

PP, you can't take any moral high ground here. Obama was called racist names and harassed by the supremacists JUST BECAUSE HE IS BLACK. Imagine if Obama is like Trump, you think he could come anywhere close to even be selected by the EC? No chance. But the republicans, so called moral people, didn't care two hoots about a morally depraved man becoming president. People like you lose all credibility as long as you support Trump. No amount of trying to explain away Trump is gonna work simply because he is tweeting crap and destroying any defense you could build for him.

I do not want my America to be represented by such a person, democrat or republican. period. Why do you want us to be represented by a crook? I mean, we have many decent people. Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz, Nikki Haley, any one of them will represent America better. BUT NOT THIS MAN.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please stop talking about that cult thing...examine yourself first.

1) Funny enough, I am an independent, college-educated, woman and minority ... and the OP of this thread.

And we have heard of multiple similar posters during the thread -- perhaps you should listen a bit more about what results we see and appreciate.

2) Funny enough, I also favor, as a goal, both universal healthcare and comprehensive immigration reform. The problem is HOW. In both areas, what Dems are proposing is crazy -- abolishing the private healthcare that 200 million Americans have? That's a recipe for a major disaster. Promising free Medicare for all with no qualification or pay-in requirement? The country goes bankrupt. Abolish ICE? You must be kidding. Say merit-based systems are "racist"? That's racist itself. And on and on and on

About Universal healthcare: No democrat in the top rung(Biden,sanders,warren,harris,Mayor pete) have said they want to abolish private insurance. So get your facts straight. All of them want to expand medicare to include those who aren't covered and want 100% of people covered, counting all means of insurance. There should be a public option for people to fall back on if they lose their job, their jobs don't provide insurance etc. Its a shame that ONLY in America people go bankrupt paying for healthcare. Thats wrong WHEN THE WEALTHY ARE GETTING TAX CUT AFTER TAX CUT.

No one said there shouldn't be border control. THATS JUST A LIE PROPAGATED BY THE AUSTRALIAN CHANNEL. Some of them said ICE as it is Under trump has to be abolished and recreated in a way that serves Americans and still be compassionate to refugees. Know the difference and educate yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please stop talking about that cult thing...examine yourself first.

1) Funny enough, I am an independent, college-educated, woman and minority ... and the OP of this thread.

And we have heard of multiple similar posters during the thread -- perhaps you should listen a bit more about what results we see and appreciate.

2) Funny enough, I also favor, as a goal, both universal healthcare and comprehensive immigration reform. The problem is HOW. In both areas, what Dems are proposing is crazy -- abolishing the private healthcare that 200 million Americans have? That's a recipe for a major disaster. Promising free Medicare for all with no qualification or pay-in requirement? The country goes bankrupt. Abolish ICE? You must be kidding. Say merit-based systems are "racist"? That's racist itself. And on and on and on

About Universal healthcare: No democrat in the top rung(Biden,sanders,warren,harris,Mayor pete) have said they want to abolish private insurance. So get your facts straight. All of them want to expand medicare to include those who aren't covered and want 100% of people covered, counting all means of insurance. There should be a public option for people to fall back on if they lose their job, their jobs don't provide insurance etc. Its a shame that ONLY in America people go bankrupt paying for healthcare. Thats wrong WHEN THE WEALTHY ARE GETTING TAX CUT AFTER TAX CUT.

No one said there shouldn't be border control. THATS JUST A LIE PROPAGATED BY THE AUSTRALIAN CHANNEL. Some of them said ICE as it is Under trump has to be abolished and recreated in a way that serves Americans and still be compassionate to refugees. Know the difference and educate yourself.

Um.... Harris has come right out and said she would abolish private insurance.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/29/politics/harris-private-insurance-medicare/index.html

Sanders has too....

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/436033-sanders-youre-damn-right-health-insurance-companies-should-be-eliminated

Not checking all the others, but since you got two wrong, it is hard to take you seriously.