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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]On the contrary, I think it's a brilliant move.

Frankly surprised he didn't think of it earlier.

This should have been part of NAFTA since the 90s, when Perot warned us about a certain giant sucking sound...[/quote]

China is worlds largest economy, largest market(for many American companies too) , largest trader, and largest economy throughout human history (but for the times it was second to India) but for about 150 years.

China is a natural force and we can’t stop them. China was brought down by free slave labor and free plunder from native Americans. Free market will always find the best place to make things for the lowest cost. You try to be protective the cost rises to consumers, the company becomes complacent without global competitions and product quality suffers and the decline starts. [/quote]

LOL, you are that China shill. Your arguments are so repetitive and idiotic that it's obvious whenever you post. Still trying to draw a connection between the slaves in the US and the economic collapse of insular China in the 19th century? I'm surprised that you have not mentioned that China has 5000 years of history. There is nothing unstoppable about China, nor does the US want to stop China so long as they play fairly on the world stage - the same way we don't try to stop Germany, Australia, or any of our other strong allies in the world. You'll notice that no one outside of Russia and North Korea speaks up in defense of China because China doesn't have any real friends on the world stage. To the extent that the US and the rest of the world trades with China only occur from the standpoint that we are tolerating China's misbehaviors up to a point. Now we come to that point where we can't tolerate them anymore and the rest of the world agrees. [/quote]

Saying like it is doesn’t make me anyone’s shrill. In the long run, America with 5% of global market needs access to Chinese market and other Asian markets. We can’t be isolated to 5% market and be expected to prosper. That’s the reality we need to face. A smarter way to approach China is form an equally large internal trade zone, like TPP, and then challenge China. Fighting with our allies, neighbors and with China at the same time is stupid and it only harms us. Everyone sees us as the bully and not China because he doesn’t cooperate with anyone. Imagine that. EU, Canada and Mx consider America to be bigger bully thanChina. That’s what the “narcisstic expert of all things” has done successfully.

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I'm not going to engage much beyond this one reply because I doubt that you are receptive to new ideas, as illustrated by the fact that you are using the same old tired arguments that you lost arguments with, in previous threads. I'm posting this for the benefit of other readers. You keep saying that American has 5% of the global market, by which I am assuming you are referencing population size. This is incorrect analysis on two levels: first, macro measurements for market size is defined by economic activity, not population. While the US only has less than 5% of the world's population, it represents about 24% of the world's GDP in nominal terms and 15% on PPP terms. Stating that America has only 5% of the global market is therefore plainly wrong and misleading. Secondly, America has access to a far larger market than just it's own domestic market, with fairly open trade access to cooperative trading partners all over the world including key Asian allies such as Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, and Malaysia, availing the US to substantially all major economic entities aside from China. In fact, the US's market access into China as it currently stands represents only 7.2% of all trade that the US does with its global trading partners and China is only the 3rd largest export market for the US, not the largest. For you to state 5% as the size of America's global market access is ignorant at best, and dishonest at worst.

As demonstrated above, the basis of your analysis on what is good or bad international trade policy is founded on a lack of fundamental knowledge, bad faith, or both, so I am not going to dignify it further with a response and just leave it here. [/quote]

China is the largest market for GM, Boeing and dozens of other countries. GM will be bankrupt taking down the entire Midwest if China kicks ONE company out. China and India alone are 1/3 of global market. As their population is getting richer, any one not having access to them will become also ran.

US share of global GDP is declining from the 30% plus simply because as everyone gets rich then the share of gdp will eventually regress to the population size, even if the overall pie is growing.

But you don’t seem to understand this and come back with the Same old tired trite. next time try to be original and honest. Good luck. [/quote]

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