A thread of optimism: why do you think Trump will win in 2020?

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Democrats original claim: Trump is a Russian agent

Democrats current claim: Mueller didn't prove Trump isn't guilty of obstructing an investigation into a crime he didn't commit.

This is how far we've come in two years with these idiots.
The democrats refused to read the Mueller report. Mueller said he had good faith in Barr, Barr stated no obstruction no collusion. Case closed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Democrats original claim: Trump is a Russian agent

Democrats current claim: Mueller didn't prove Trump isn't guilty of obstructing an investigation into a crime he didn't commit.

This is how far we've come in two years with these idiots.
The democrats refused to read the Mueller report. Mueller said he had good faith in Barr, Barr stated no obstruction no collusion. Case closed.

Deluuuuuuuuusional. Truly spectular delusion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Democrats original claim: Trump is a Russian agent

Democrats current claim: Mueller didn't prove Trump isn't guilty of obstructing an investigation into a crime he didn't commit.

This is how far we've come in two years with these idiots.
The democrats refused to read the Mueller report. Mueller said he had good faith in Barr, Barr stated no obstruction no collusion. Case closed.

Good one.

It reminds me of the Kavanaugh hearings.

Dems have become totalitarians in love with mob-rule and with pre-democratic "guilty unless proven innocent" inquisitorial mindset.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:On the contrary, I think it's a brilliant move.

Frankly surprised he didn't think of it earlier.

This should have been part of NAFTA since the 90s, when Perot warned us about a certain giant sucking sound...

China is worlds largest economy, largest market(for many American companies too) , largest trader, and largest economy throughout human history (but for the times it was second to India) but for about 150 years.

China is a natural force and we can’t stop them. China was brought down by free slave labor and free plunder from native Americans. Free market will always find the best place to make things for the lowest cost. You try to be protective the cost rises to consumers, the company becomes complacent without global competitions and product quality suffers and the decline starts.

LOL, you are that China shill. Your arguments are so repetitive and idiotic that it's obvious whenever you post. Still trying to draw a connection between the slaves in the US and the economic collapse of insular China in the 19th century? I'm surprised that you have not mentioned that China has 5000 years of history. There is nothing unstoppable about China, nor does the US want to stop China so long as they play fairly on the world stage - the same way we don't try to stop Germany, Australia, or any of our other strong allies in the world. You'll notice that no one outside of Russia and North Korea speaks up in defense of China because China doesn't have any real friends on the world stage. To the extent that the US and the rest of the world trades with China only occur from the standpoint that we are tolerating China's misbehaviors up to a point. Now we come to that point where we can't tolerate them anymore and the rest of the world agrees.

Saying like it is doesn’t make me anyone’s shrill. In the long run, America with 5% of global market needs access to Chinese market and other Asian markets. We can’t be isolated to 5% market and be expected to prosper. That’s the reality we need to face. A smarter way to approach China is form an equally large internal trade zone, like TPP, and then challenge China. Fighting with our allies, neighbors and with China at the same time is stupid and it only harms us. Everyone sees us as the bully and not China because he doesn’t cooperate with anyone. Imagine that. EU, Canada and Mx consider America to be bigger bully thanChina. That’s what the “narcisstic expert of all things” has done successfully.

I'm not going to engage much beyond this one reply because I doubt that you are receptive to new ideas, as illustrated by the fact that you are using the same old tired arguments that you lost arguments with, in previous threads. I'm posting this for the benefit of other readers. You keep saying that American has 5% of the global market, by which I am assuming you are referencing population size. This is incorrect analysis on two levels: first, macro measurements for market size is defined by economic activity, not population. While the US only has less than 5% of the world's population, it represents about 24% of the world's GDP in nominal terms and 15% on PPP terms. Stating that America has only 5% of the global market is therefore plainly wrong and misleading. Secondly, America has access to a far larger market than just it's own domestic market, with fairly open trade access to cooperative trading partners all over the world including key Asian allies such as Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, and Malaysia, availing the US to substantially all major economic entities aside from China. In fact, the US's market access into China as it currently stands represents only 7.2% of all trade that the US does with its global trading partners and China is only the 3rd largest export market for the US, not the largest. For you to state 5% as the size of America's global market access is ignorant at best, and dishonest at worst.

As demonstrated above, the basis of your analysis on what is good or bad international trade policy is founded on a lack of fundamental knowledge, bad faith, or both, so I am not going to dignify it further with a response and just leave it here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean jeez - Rasmussen (Rasmussen!) has Elizabeth Warren beating Trump in a general election

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html

Well, now if only "I have a plan" Warren can manage to secure the nomination in the Democratic primary race.

I find it hilarious, and a little sad, that democrats would point to current poll numbers as if it is meaningful in any way. What Democrats currently have is the euphoria of hope, thus far unexposed to any of the nasty infighting that will occur between now and the national convention to pick their nominee. What the voters have are not deep understandings of the candidates and their positions on issues, but fantastic idealized images of the perfect candidate that will defeat Trump. Look at this graph:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

Remember when Beto was so rad and awesome? Remember when Kamala Harris was so inspirational, walking out of those hearings in protest, what strength! Maybe Warren is pounding down beer in her kitchen to demonstrate her down-to-earthiness, or maybe she is just trying to forget her embarrassment. What we do see is that the two leading candidates for the Democratic Party is an old socialist, and a guy who has lost every single presidential run he ever attempted, and whose biggest campaign efforts to date amounts to an apology tour.

Now I'm not saying that Democrats can't pull one out of the bag, but as of now, I'm pretty optimistic that Trump will win in 2020.

[Anonymous]

https://www.politico.com/newsletters/morning-money/2019/05/29/trump-losing-public-opinion-battle-on-trade-440855

Trump losing public opinion battle on trade

Trump not winning opinion battle on trade — The latest Monmouth University national poll has more bad news for President Trump on the trade front. Public opinion is somewhat split on whether tariffs on imports are good for the U.S. (32%) or bad (37%). But it’s moving the wrong way for Trump from last year when the public was evenly split. Americans saying free trade deals are good is up to 51% from 24% in 2015.

And 47% say that Trump’s specific tariffs hurt the U.S. while just 25% say they help. And 62% percent say they are either very or somewhat concerned about the impact of a trade war on their local economy. The public also believes (62%) that Americans will bear the cost of the China tariffs, contrary to Trump’s assertions.

[Anonymous]

https://www.inquisitr.com/5457634/donald-trump-losing-joe-biden-pennsylvania-poll/

In the crucial state of Pennsylvania, with its 20 all-important electoral votes, Biden would trounce Trump in an election held today, as ABC News reported. The poll is consistent with most national polls as well, which continue to show Biden maintaining a sizable lead over Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:On the contrary, I think it's a brilliant move.

Frankly surprised he didn't think of it earlier.

This should have been part of NAFTA since the 90s, when Perot warned us about a certain giant sucking sound...

China is worlds largest economy, largest market(for many American companies too) , largest trader, and largest economy throughout human history (but for the times it was second to India) but for about 150 years.

China is a natural force and we can’t stop them. China was brought down by free slave labor and free plunder from native Americans. Free market will always find the best place to make things for the lowest cost. You try to be protective the cost rises to consumers, the company becomes complacent without global competitions and product quality suffers and the decline starts.

LOL, you are that China shill. Your arguments are so repetitive and idiotic that it's obvious whenever you post. Still trying to draw a connection between the slaves in the US and the economic collapse of insular China in the 19th century? I'm surprised that you have not mentioned that China has 5000 years of history. There is nothing unstoppable about China, nor does the US want to stop China so long as they play fairly on the world stage - the same way we don't try to stop Germany, Australia, or any of our other strong allies in the world. You'll notice that no one outside of Russia and North Korea speaks up in defense of China because China doesn't have any real friends on the world stage. To the extent that the US and the rest of the world trades with China only occur from the standpoint that we are tolerating China's misbehaviors up to a point. Now we come to that point where we can't tolerate them anymore and the rest of the world agrees.

Saying like it is doesn’t make me anyone’s shrill. In the long run, America with 5% of global market needs access to Chinese market and other Asian markets. We can’t be isolated to 5% market and be expected to prosper. That’s the reality we need to face. A smarter way to approach China is form an equally large internal trade zone, like TPP, and then challenge China. Fighting with our allies, neighbors and with China at the same time is stupid and it only harms us. Everyone sees us as the bully and not China because he doesn’t cooperate with anyone. Imagine that. EU, Canada and Mx consider America to be bigger bully thanChina. That’s what the “narcisstic expert of all things” has done successfully.

I'm not going to engage much beyond this one reply because I doubt that you are receptive to new ideas, as illustrated by the fact that you are using the same old tired arguments that you lost arguments with, in previous threads. I'm posting this for the benefit of other readers. You keep saying that American has 5% of the global market, by which I am assuming you are referencing population size. This is incorrect analysis on two levels: first, macro measurements for market size is defined by economic activity, not population. While the US only has less than 5% of the world's population, it represents about 24% of the world's GDP in nominal terms and 15% on PPP terms. Stating that America has only 5% of the global market is therefore plainly wrong and misleading. Secondly, America has access to a far larger market than just it's own domestic market, with fairly open trade access to cooperative trading partners all over the world including key Asian allies such as Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore, and Malaysia, availing the US to substantially all major economic entities aside from China. In fact, the US's market access into China as it currently stands represents only 7.2% of all trade that the US does with its global trading partners and China is only the 3rd largest export market for the US, not the largest. For you to state 5% as the size of America's global market access is ignorant at best, and dishonest at worst.

As demonstrated above, the basis of your analysis on what is good or bad international trade policy is founded on a lack of fundamental knowledge, bad faith, or both, so I am not going to dignify it further with a response and just leave it here.

Thank you PP for taking the time.

Great analysis.

[Anonymous]

It's almost like there's no strategy at all

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/31/surprise-mexican-tariffs-hurt-china-agreement-chances.html

Surprise Mexican tariffs hurt China agreement chances: ‘How can you trust Trump to honor a deal?’

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean jeez - Rasmussen (Rasmussen!) has Elizabeth Warren beating Trump in a general election

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html

Well, now if only "I have a plan" Warren can manage to secure the nomination in the Democratic primary race.

I find it hilarious, and a little sad, that democrats would point to current poll numbers as if it is meaningful in any way. What Democrats currently have is the euphoria of hope, thus far unexposed to any of the nasty infighting that will occur between now and the national convention to pick their nominee. What the voters have are not deep understandings of the candidates and their positions on issues, but fantastic idealized images of the perfect candidate that will defeat Trump. Look at this graph:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

Remember when Beto was so rad and awesome? Remember when Kamala Harris was so inspirational, walking out of those hearings in protest, what strength! Maybe Warren is pounding down beer in her kitchen to demonstrate her down-to-earthiness, or maybe she is just trying to forget her embarrassment. What we do see is that the two leading candidates for the Democratic Party is an old socialist, and a guy who has lost every single presidential run he ever attempted, and whose biggest campaign efforts to date amounts to an apology tour.

Now I'm not saying that Democrats can't pull one out of the bag, but as of now, I'm pretty optimistic that Trump will win in 2020.

+1.

Trump has many problems but also two big winds behind pushing him forward:

1) His results are actually pretty good.
2) The Dem primary so far is about who's the craziest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean jeez - Rasmussen (Rasmussen!) has Elizabeth Warren beating Trump in a general election

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html

Well, now if only "I have a plan" Warren can manage to secure the nomination in the Democratic primary race.

I find it hilarious, and a little sad, that democrats would point to current poll numbers as if it is meaningful in any way. What Democrats currently have is the euphoria of hope, thus far unexposed to any of the nasty infighting that will occur between now and the national convention to pick their nominee. What the voters have are not deep understandings of the candidates and their positions on issues, but fantastic idealized images of the perfect candidate that will defeat Trump. Look at this graph:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

Remember when Beto was so rad and awesome? Remember when Kamala Harris was so inspirational, walking out of those hearings in protest, what strength! Maybe Warren is pounding down beer in her kitchen to demonstrate her down-to-earthiness, or maybe she is just trying to forget her embarrassment. What we do see is that the two leading candidates for the Democratic Party is an old socialist, and a guy who has lost every single presidential run he ever attempted, and whose biggest campaign efforts to date amounts to an apology tour.

Now I'm not saying that Democrats can't pull one out of the bag, but as of now, I'm pretty optimistic that Trump will win in 2020.

Almost as pathetic as the loser MAGA who tries to post obscure Trump approval numbers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean jeez - Rasmussen (Rasmussen!) has Elizabeth Warren beating Trump in a general election

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html

Well, now if only "I have a plan" Warren can manage to secure the nomination in the Democratic primary race.

I find it hilarious, and a little sad, that democrats would point to current poll numbers as if it is meaningful in any way. What Democrats currently have is the euphoria of hope, thus far unexposed to any of the nasty infighting that will occur between now and the national convention to pick their nominee. What the voters have are not deep understandings of the candidates and their positions on issues, but fantastic idealized images of the perfect candidate that will defeat Trump. Look at this graph:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

Remember when Beto was so rad and awesome? Remember when Kamala Harris was so inspirational, walking out of those hearings in protest, what strength! Maybe Warren is pounding down beer in her kitchen to demonstrate her down-to-earthiness, or maybe she is just trying to forget her embarrassment. What we do see is that the two leading candidates for the Democratic Party is an old socialist, and a guy who has lost every single presidential run he ever attempted, and whose biggest campaign efforts to date amounts to an apology tour.

Now I'm not saying that Democrats can't pull one out of the bag, but as of now, I'm pretty optimistic that Trump will win in 2020.

Almost as pathetic as the loser MAGA who tries to post obscure Trump approval numbers.

At least you agree it is pathetic. Who says we can't get along. I'm optimistic that we can! Just keep your composure when Trump wins in 2020.

[Anonymous]

Apparently Democrats feel insane trolling after drawing Trump supporters in will change their minds.

We aren't supporting him because we love his charisma, we are supporting his policies despite his charisma.

Democrats created the foundation of the corruption you are obstructing the federal government from correcting. This will cause a chain reaction causing one group of voters to double down invisible to Coastal Elites.

Meh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I mean jeez - Rasmussen (Rasmussen!) has Elizabeth Warren beating Trump in a general election

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html

Well, now if only "I have a plan" Warren can manage to secure the nomination in the Democratic primary race.

I find it hilarious, and a little sad, that democrats would point to current poll numbers as if it is meaningful in any way. What Democrats currently have is the euphoria of hope, thus far unexposed to any of the nasty infighting that will occur between now and the national convention to pick their nominee. What the voters have are not deep understandings of the candidates and their positions on issues, but fantastic idealized images of the perfect candidate that will defeat Trump. Look at this graph:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

Remember when Beto was so rad and awesome? Remember when Kamala Harris was so inspirational, walking out of those hearings in protest, what strength! Maybe Warren is pounding down beer in her kitchen to demonstrate her down-to-earthiness, or maybe she is just trying to forget her embarrassment. What we do see is that the two leading candidates for the Democratic Party is an old socialist, and a guy who has lost every single presidential run he ever attempted, and whose biggest campaign efforts to date amounts to an apology tour.

Now I'm not saying that Democrats can't pull one out of the bag, but as of now, I'm pretty optimistic that Trump will win in 2020.

Almost as pathetic as the loser MAGA who tries to post obscure Trump approval numbers.

At least you agree it is pathetic. Who says we can't get along. I'm optimistic that we can! Just keep your composure when Trump wins in 2020.

+1.

Let's all be optimistic, and just see what happens