Where do you consider MCPS high schools on a scale of good-bad

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is straight BS to make people feel better about their housing choices.

This. If you overpaid, you have to justify it to the grandparents somehow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I tend to agree with Niche, with a twist.

Tier 1
Churchill
Poolesville
Whitman
Wootton

Tier 2
BCC
Blair Magnet *
RM
WJ

Tier 3
Clarksburg
Damascus
QO
Sherwood

Tier 4
Blake
Magruder
Northwest
Rockville

Tier 5
All other schools

I remember reading the post a while back that showed Blair's SAT average was 50 points higher for the largest common cohort to it and any W in order to isolate for demographic differences and gauge the school's actual value. Some people argued but the magnet responsible which was ridiculous because it's a small program in a large school that's also mostly Asian. These silly posts that are based on outdated notions from 30 years ago are mostly laughable.
I believe these were the SAT scores for the largest cohort common to each of these high-schools

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wootton 1262
Churchill 1257

The data was published by the county here.
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I tend to agree with Niche, with a twist.

Tier 1
Churchill
Poolesville
Whitman
Wootton

Tier 2
BCC
Blair Magnet *
RM
WJ

Tier 3
Clarksburg
Damascus
QO
Sherwood

Tier 4
Blake
Magruder
Northwest
Rockville

Tier 5
All other schools

I remember reading the post a while back that showed Blair's SAT average was 50 points higher for the largest common cohort to it and any W in order to isolate for demographic differences and gauge the school's actual value. Some people argued but the magnet responsible which was ridiculous because it's a small program in a large school that's also mostly Asian. These silly posts that are based on outdated notions from 30 years ago are mostly laughable.
I believe these were the SAT scores for the largest cohort common to each of these high-schools

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wootton 1262
Churchill 1257

The data was published by the county here.
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

This data was from 2017.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I tend to agree with Niche, with a twist.

Tier 1
Churchill
Poolesville
Whitman
Wootton

Tier 2
BCC
Blair Magnet *
RM
WJ

Tier 3
Clarksburg
Damascus
QO
Sherwood

Tier 4
Blake
Magruder
Northwest
Rockville

Tier 5
All other schools

I remember reading the post a while back that showed Blair's SAT average was 50 points higher for the largest common cohort to it and any W in order to isolate for demographic differences and gauge the school's actual value. Some people argued but the magnet responsible which was ridiculous because it's a small program in a large school that's also mostly Asian. These silly posts that are based on outdated notions from 30 years ago are mostly laughable.
I believe these were the SAT scores for the largest cohort common to each of these high-schools

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wootton 1262
Churchill 1257

The data was published by the county here.
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

This data was from 2017.

The county rarely releases this level of detail and the speculation was this was intended to be public. Nevertheless, it gives us a deeper insight into how these schools really stack up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, it is a dual-edged sword to have most of the kids come from outside and doing well. Poolesville community has fought for years to get a new school building but because the school does so well it gets bypassed by MCPS, unlike some other low performing schools.

This is not at all how decisions regarding physical structures are made. At all. Yes, Poolesville needs a new physical plant, but so do Eastern and Neelsville MS.

There is more need than there is money. That's the whole story. PHS is not being punish for being high performing, and there are plenty of schools waiting for renovations that have much higher needs student populations.

MCCPTA tried to formalize support for renovating school in poorer neighbirhoods ahead of richer neighborhoods but thankfully it didn't pass. What this means though is that this bizarre thinking is rampant in MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, it is a dual-edged sword to have most of the kids come from outside and doing well. Poolesville community has fought for years to get a new school building but because the school does so well it gets bypassed by MCPS, unlike some other low performing schools.

This is not at all how decisions regarding physical structures are made. At all. Yes, Poolesville needs a new physical plant, but so do Eastern and Neelsville MS.

There is more need than there is money. That's the whole story. PHS is not being punish for being high performing, and there are plenty of schools waiting for renovations that have much higher needs student populations.

MCCPTA tried to formalize support for renovating school in poorer neighbirhoods ahead of richer neighborhoods but thankfully it didn't pass. What this means though is that this bizarre thinking is rampant in MCPS.

so you feel paying the most taxes, entitles you to better schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Yes, it is a dual-edged sword to have most of the kids come from outside and doing well. Poolesville community has fought for years to get a new school building but because the school does so well it gets bypassed by MCPS, unlike some other low performing schools.

This is not at all how decisions regarding physical structures are made. At all. Yes, Poolesville needs a new physical plant, but so do Eastern and Neelsville MS.

There is more need than there is money. That's the whole story. PHS is not being punish for being high performing, and there are plenty of schools waiting for renovations that have much higher needs student populations.

MCCPTA tried to formalize support for renovating school in poorer neighbirhoods ahead of richer neighborhoods but thankfully it didn't pass. What this means though is that this bizarre thinking is rampant in MCPS.

So, someone one time suggested a thing, but other folks on the same council disagreed and it did not pass a democratic vote? And now we're supposed to believe that's some sort of common view?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Blair magnet

RM IB

Whitman
Churchill
Wootten



BCC




Everything else

I would rank BCC lower. You also forgot Poolesviile. But otherwise this is accurate.

[Anonymous]

There are maybe 4 where the communities/ families are so upside down with their lives that the schools themselves are just "safety valves" for their neighborhoods - but the majority of MCPS high schools are uniform and performing the same. Not a single one of our schools has a record or even a reputation for turning poor students into good students.

This disingenuously themed evergreen thread is about real estate.

[Anonymous]

fwiw, I would consider 'bad' the W schools. Too homogenous, not much true creativity or dynamism. Too many kids with a sheep mentality.

The schools that are diverse with high test scores are the ones I'd consider 'good.' Like Blair, QO, RM.

[Anonymous]

I really like Kennedy.

The fact that it flies beneath the radar of posts like this is but one reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really like Kennedy.

The fact that it flies beneath the radar of posts like this is but one reason.

I feel the same about Northwood. DC is in MC2. It has been a positive experience all around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I really like Kennedy.

The fact that it flies beneath the radar of posts like this is but one reason.

I feel the same about Northwood. DC is in MC2. It has been a positive experience all around.

Most high schools offer the exact same courses. There's also almost no high school without a substantial high-performing cohort. Sure, some schools may have 3 sections of AP English while another has only 2, but the same kid will get the same quality education at any of them. This is evident.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I tend to agree with Niche, with a twist.

Tier 1
Churchill
Poolesville
Whitman
Wootton

Tier 2
BCC
Blair Magnet *
RM
WJ

Tier 3
Clarksburg
Damascus
QO
Sherwood

Tier 4
Blake
Magruder
Northwest
Rockville

Tier 5
All other schools

I remember reading the post a while back that showed Blair's SAT average was 50 points higher for the largest common cohort to it and any W in order to isolate for demographic differences and gauge the school's actual value. Some people argued but the magnet responsible which was ridiculous because it's a small program in a large school that's also mostly Asian. These silly posts that are based on outdated notions from 30 years ago are mostly laughable.
I believe these were the SAT scores for the largest cohort common to each of these high-schools

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wootton 1262
Churchill 1257

The data was published by the county here.
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

?Largest common cohort?

I see Blair with an average score of 1142 and that is including magnet students. Which table are you referring to?

Oh, I see that you are using "largest common cohort" as a euphemism for whites. OK. Well, only 164 whites took the SAT at Blair that year. How many of those were in the magnet programs? The percentage starts to be a lot higher when you look at the small racial group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I tend to agree with Niche, with a twist.

Tier 1
Churchill
Poolesville
Whitman
Wootton

Tier 2
BCC
Blair Magnet *
RM
WJ

Tier 3
Clarksburg
Damascus
QO
Sherwood

Tier 4
Blake
Magruder
Northwest
Rockville

Tier 5
All other schools

I remember reading the post a while back that showed Blair's SAT average was 50 points higher for the largest common cohort to it and any W in order to isolate for demographic differences and gauge the school's actual value. Some people argued but the magnet responsible which was ridiculous because it's a small program in a large school that's also mostly Asian. These silly posts that are based on outdated notions from 30 years ago are mostly laughable.
I believe these were the SAT scores for the largest cohort common to each of these high-schools

Blair 1326
Walter Johnson 1275
Wootton 1262
Churchill 1257

The data was published by the county here.
https://ww2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/departments/sharedaccountability/reports/2017/1771102HS%20Princ_SAT%20Partic_Perf%20Class%20of%202017.pdf

This data was from 2017.

The county rarely releases this level of detail and the speculation was this was intended to be public. Nevertheless, it gives us a deeper insight into how these schools really stack up.

This data — (Table A 11) suggests BCC, RM, and WJ all do better at serving a diverse cohort. And WW and Churchill have NO FARMS in their cohort — which really is quite a commentary on housing. Thanks for sharing this PP.