What's going on with FCBEscola NOVA?

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:Their U13 boys team is in EDP's top division -- basically, the equivalent of the old Region I leagues.

My goodness. How were they selected? I couldn't find enough results at youthsoccerrankings.us (where, I feel I need to state for the reading-impaired, the interesting part is the results database, not the ranking itself) to get any info.

Isn't that SDOR and not FCBescola NOVA?

[Anonymous]

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RantingSoccerDad wrote:Their U13 boys team is in EDP's top division -- basically, the equivalent of the old Region I leagues.

My goodness. How were they selected? I couldn't find enough results at youthsoccerrankings.us (where, I feel I need to state for the reading-impaired, the interesting part is the results database, not the ranking itself) to get any info.

This is a question for EDP. I don't know how they evaluate the teams for the initial placement. However, unlike MLS, EDP has promotion/relegation so if a team does not perform well enough, it will be moved to a lower division the next season. If a team performs well, it moves to a higher division. Bethesda South 03 team, for example, moved down from the top division to the 3rd division within a year or so. Other teams moved up.

NCSL also has pro/eel but they totally botched their division structures

If EDP "botched" their divisions and placed this team incorrectly, they will get relegated. The FCB team at issue won their division at both Potomac tournament and Premier Cup. According to got soccer (which is also not perfect), here are their stats:

Games 9
W-D-L 9-0-0
Goals For 31
Goals Against 2
Goal Ratio 15.50
Win % 100.0%

I’m not questioning FCB

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have girls in the program? If so, what ages?

My daughter is on their U11 team.

I love the idea of this program. If you don't mind some questions..

what percentage are 2008s?

How far from around the area do the u11 farther girls come from to participate?

I don't know the percentage of 2008s this year, because they added some new players. Last year, they did not have enough 2008s so 2008s (including my daughter) played up with older girls. I know that some girls live close by the training fields. Others come from father away (e.g., Great Falls, Arlington, etc).

[Anonymous]

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RantingSoccerDad wrote:Their U13 boys team is in EDP's top division -- basically, the equivalent of the old Region I leagues.

My goodness. How were they selected? I couldn't find enough results at youthsoccerrankings.us (where, I feel I need to state for the reading-impaired, the interesting part is the results database, not the ranking itself) to get any info.

This is a question for EDP. I don't know how they evaluate the teams for the initial placement. However, unlike MLS, EDP has promotion/relegation so if a team does not perform well enough, it will be moved to a lower division the next season. If a team performs well, it moves to a higher division. Bethesda South 03 team, for example, moved down from the top division to the 3rd division within a year or so. Other teams moved up.

NCSL also has pro/eel but they totally botched their division structures

If EDP "botched" their divisions and placed this team incorrectly, they will get relegated. The FCB team at issue won their division at both Potomac tournament and Premier Cup. According to got soccer (which is also not perfect), here are their stats:

Games 9
W-D-L 9-0-0
Goals For 31
Goals Against 2
Goal Ratio 15.50
Win % 100.0%

I’m not questioning FCB

That team is really good.

[Anonymous]

^2005s. U14 next year

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:Their U13 boys team is in EDP's top division -- basically, the equivalent of the old Region I leagues.

My goodness. How were they selected? I couldn't find enough results at youthsoccerrankings.us (where, I feel I need to state for the reading-impaired, the interesting part is the results database, not the ranking itself) to get any info.

Isn't that SDOR and not FCBescola NOVA?

I saw FCB separate from SDor.

But now that I look again, I don't see FCB at U13. At all. Not in ANY EDP division. I don't see them at U11, U12 or U14, either.

https://www.edpsoccer.com/fallbrackets

Not sure whether they were removed or whether I've lost my mind. (I suppose both would be technically possible.)

I'd check in with the EDP staff -- I spoke with them for a story a couple of months ago -- but I think that'd be overkill. Can anyone confirm where they're actually playing?

Teams U13 and younger will not compete in EDP until the spring.

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:Their U13 boys team is in EDP's top division -- basically, the equivalent of the old Region I leagues.

My goodness. How were they selected? I couldn't find enough results at youthsoccerrankings.us (where, I feel I need to state for the reading-impaired, the interesting part is the results database, not the ranking itself) to get any info.

Isn't that SDOR and not FCBescola NOVA?

I saw FCB separate from SDor.

But now that I look again, I don't see FCB at U13. At all. Not in ANY EDP division. I don't see them at U11, U12 or U14, either.

https://www.edpsoccer.com/fallbrackets

Not sure whether they were removed or whether I've lost my mind. (I suppose both would be technically possible.)

I'd check in with the EDP staff -- I spoke with them for a story a couple of months ago -- but I think that'd be overkill. Can anyone confirm where they're actually playing?

Teams U13 and younger will not compete in EDP until the spring.

Why are they listed in the fall brackets? (The older ones aren't -- perhaps because they're sitting out HS season?)

EDP has not posted brackets for over U16 and up. My guess is that the league is probably still sorting out the divisions for the older age groups. For younger age groups, FCB teams are listed in U14 and U15 brackets for boys (two for each age group). Their U11 though U13 teams will start EDP in the Spring. The youngest teams will continue to play internal competitions, tournaments and friendly games.

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:Their U13 boys team is in EDP's top division -- basically, the equivalent of the old Region I leagues.

My goodness. How were they selected? I couldn't find enough results at youthsoccerrankings.us (where, I feel I need to state for the reading-impaired, the interesting part is the results database, not the ranking itself) to get any info.

Isn't that SDOR and not FCBescola NOVA?

I saw FCB separate from SDor.

But now that I look again, I don't see FCB at U13. At all. Not in ANY EDP division. I don't see them at U11, U12 or U14, either.

https://www.edpsoccer.com/fallbrackets

Not sure whether they were removed or whether I've lost my mind. (I suppose both would be technically possible.)

I'd check in with the EDP staff -- I spoke with them for a story a couple of months ago -- but I think that'd be overkill. Can anyone confirm where they're actually playing?

Teams U13 and younger will not compete in EDP until the spring.

Why are they listed in the fall brackets? (The older ones aren't -- perhaps because they're sitting out HS season?)

EDP has not posted brackets for over U16 and up. My guess is that the league is probably still sorting out the divisions for the older age groups. For younger age groups, FCB teams are listed in U14 and U15 brackets for boys (two for each age group). Their U11 though U13 teams will start EDP in the Spring. The youngest teams will continue to play internal competitions, tournaments and friendly games.

Oh, the *FCB* U11-U13 teams won't start EDP play until the spring. Not the league as a whole. That makes sense.

I do think high school play will take a large chunk out of EDP's fall brackets for U16 on up. Virginia is the outlier in playing a spring season.

Incidentally, since someone raised a question on NCSL divisions, I did a quick analysis and highlighted the weird ones ...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fawDgyWqHjMDVwNonFVxkk3W4Q0tcJ4abx0vVqbho0E/edit?usp=sharing

There’s a few questionable decisions in the older age groups in NCSL

[Anonymous]

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

RantingSoccerDad wrote:Their U13 boys team is in EDP's top division -- basically, the equivalent of the old Region I leagues.

My goodness. How were they selected? I couldn't find enough results at youthsoccerrankings.us (where, I feel I need to state for the reading-impaired, the interesting part is the results database, not the ranking itself) to get any info.

Isn't that SDOR and not FCBescola NOVA?

I saw FCB separate from SDor.

But now that I look again, I don't see FCB at U13. At all. Not in ANY EDP division. I don't see them at U11, U12 or U14, either.

https://www.edpsoccer.com/fallbrackets

Not sure whether they were removed or whether I've lost my mind. (I suppose both would be technically possible.)

I'd check in with the EDP staff -- I spoke with them for a story a couple of months ago -- but I think that'd be overkill. Can anyone confirm where they're actually playing?

Teams U13 and younger will not compete in EDP until the spring.

Why are they listed in the fall brackets? (The older ones aren't -- perhaps because they're sitting out HS season?)

EDP has not posted brackets for over U16 and up. My guess is that the league is probably still sorting out the divisions for the older age groups. For younger age groups, FCB teams are listed in U14 and U15 brackets for boys (two for each age group). Their U11 though U13 teams will start EDP in the Spring. The youngest teams will continue to play internal competitions, tournaments and friendly games.

Oh, the *FCB* U11-U13 teams won't start EDP play until the spring. Not the league as a whole. That makes sense.

I do think high school play will take a large chunk out of EDP's fall brackets for U16 on up. Virginia is the outlier in playing a spring season.

Incidentally, since someone raised a question on NCSL divisions, I did a quick analysis and highlighted the weird ones ...

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fawDgyWqHjMDVwNonFVxkk3W4Q0tcJ4abx0vVqbho0E/edit?usp=sharing

The U13 team in the top EDP Division next year that a pp was referencing are now U14 (2005) so that is where they are now listed. U14 and up are in leagues in the Fall. The games will serve developmental purposes.

[Anonymous]

^ BTw, FCBescola is now “Barca Academy”. U14 also has a second team in a lower division as well.

[Anonymous]

These are all the Barca teams playing EDP in the fall

http://maps.gotsport.com/clubsite/LeagueDir.aspx?EventID=67069&ClubDirectorID=27917

[Anonymous]

I know they claim they try to balance out each team within an age group but I clearly saw some advanced groups vs others. Is there an unwritten understanding of the color coding team rankings? Similar to other club's Red, Black, white, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know they claim they try to balance out each team within an age group but I clearly saw some advanced groups vs others. Is there an unwritten understanding of the color coding team rankings? Similar to other club's Red, Black, white, etc.

There is no obvious naming convention that conveys team rank. I believe they specifically go out of their way of doing that to avoid the stigma of A, B, C teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know they claim they try to balance out each team within an age group but I clearly saw some advanced groups vs others. Is there an unwritten understanding of the color coding team rankings? Similar to other club's Red, Black, white, etc.

They have competition teams. Those will be ability based for leagues and tournaments.

Training groups and the teams for internal competitions will be mixed ability. Advanced will get branched out or play up if necessary for the challenge certain training nights.

There is no stigma. They are looking at kids individually and what is right for that player at any given time point. They have a huge amount of info on every player in the Academy. Notes nightly. Watch how many different coaches and TDs are watching and workign with the kids any given night (clipboards out taking notes). I had a kid in three different groups (even age) last year. And two different teams. The motivation is there because they know if they work hard they will actually reap the benefits---and not have to wait a year or more like the travel system to get any movement.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know they claim they try to balance out each team within an age group but I clearly saw some advanced groups vs others. Is there an unwritten understanding of the color coding team rankings? Similar to other club's Red, Black, white, etc.

They have competition teams. Those will be ability based for leagues and tournaments.

Training groups and the teams for internal competitions will be mixed ability. Advanced will get branched out or play up if necessary for the challenge certain training nights.

There is no stigma. They are looking at kids individually and what is right for that player at any given time point. They have a huge amount of info on every player in the Academy. Notes nightly. Watch how many different coaches and TDs are watching and workign with the kids any given night (clipboards out taking notes). I had a kid in three different groups (even age) last year. And two different teams. The motivation is there because they know if they work hard they will actually reap the benefits---and not have to wait a year or more like the travel system to get any movement.

Oh, and an email went out saying that until September 1st, they are doing evaluations for initial groups. So the next few weeks kids prob will be moved around. There are new kids that haven't been thoroughly evaluated.