War with Iran Part II

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand why Republicans want this war with Iran. There was a perfectly good deal under Obama that constrained Iran's nuclear program and kept the Strait of Hormuz open for everyone. Every war plan and gaming exercise started with the assumption that Iran would seize control of Hormuz and take control of 20 percent of the world's oil and gas. That's rudimentary geopolitics. So why start a war at all when the US already had everything they wanted under Obama - free passage and no nukes for Iran. And now there is zero change Iran is going to give up control of Hormuz and abstain from pursuing nuclear weapons.

So what was the point? The US - and the world - is the huge strategic loser here. Are Republicans just dumbasses? Are Republicans all servile to Israel, which wants chaos in the Middle East? For America's interests, this may be the dumbest war in modern history.

That you actually think Iran wasn't well on its way to developing nuclear weapons - regardless of any "perfectly good deal under Obama" - just shows how naive you are.

[Anonymous]

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JD Vance: "I think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding. I think the Iranians thought the ceasefire included Lebanon, and it just didn't. We never made that promise, we never indicated that was gonna be the case."

Lebanon was literally in the 10 point plan that the US agreed to. It is hard to understand if they are stupid, if they think we are stupid, if that are just that callous, or all of the above.

The US isn't bombing Lebanon. Israel is. Seems to me that Iran needs to be prosecuting a deal with Israel.

Just so we are clear: you are saying we should leave Israel high and dry?

Israel has repeatedly tried to sabotage any effort at peace. How many times have they assasinated negotiators in the midst of negotiations? 3 or 4?

They knew what the terms were and willfully violated them. Their continued blood lust is harming us. They're more instransigent and expansionist than Iran is. Let that sink in.

Do you have a better idea?

+1 Israel and Netanyahu specifically continue to benefit politically from this war while no one else does. If they can’t agree to stop bombing they are the problem.

Trump and his sons are benefiting Bigly. The way he has manipulated the market and nobody is calling it out is disgraceful. Barron played the polymarkets and reportedly got 11 figures betting and trading on the war. Don Jr and Erik were in the Middle East trying to sell their drones and weapons from their new defense company. While negotiating on behalf of the USA, Jared was as trying to get the Saudi and Emiratis to invest another 6 billion dollars in his firm. So the Trumps are definitely winning in this war, at least financially.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3miz2ahe4es2n

JD Vance: "I think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding. I think the Iranians thought the ceasefire included Lebanon, and it just didn't. We never made that promise, we never indicated that was gonna be the case."

Lebanon was literally in the 10 point plan that the US agreed to. It is hard to understand if they are stupid, if they think we are stupid, if that are just that callous, or all of the above.

The US isn't bombing Lebanon. Israel is. Seems to me that Iran needs to be prosecuting a deal with Israel.

Just so we are clear: you are saying we should leave Israel high and dry?

Israel has repeatedly tried to sabotage any effort at peace. How many times have they assasinated negotiators in the midst of negotiations? 3 or 4?

They knew what the terms were and willfully violated them. Their continued blood lust is harming us. They're more instransigent and expansionist than Iran is. Let that sink in.

Do you have a better idea?

+1 Israel and Netanyahu specifically continue to benefit politically from this war while no one else does. If they can’t agree to stop bombing they are the problem.

Trump and his sons are benefiting Bigly. The way he has manipulated the market and nobody is calling it out is disgraceful. Barron played the polymarkets and reportedly got 11 figures betting and trading on the war. Don Jr and Erik were in the Middle East trying to sell their drones and weapons from their new defense company. While negotiating on behalf of the USA, Jared was as trying to get the Saudi and Emiratis to invest another 6 billion dollars in his firm. So the Trumps are definitely winning in this war, at least financially.

You really need to stop spreading unverified rumors you pick up from your social media.

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Anonymous wrote:https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3miz2ahe4es2n

JD Vance: "I think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding. I think the Iranians thought the ceasefire included Lebanon, and it just didn't. We never made that promise, we never indicated that was gonna be the case."

Lebanon was literally in the 10 point plan that the US agreed to. It is hard to understand if they are stupid, if they think we are stupid, if that are just that callous, or all of the above.

The US isn't bombing Lebanon. Israel is. Seems to me that Iran needs to be prosecuting a deal with Israel.

Just so we are clear: you are saying we should leave Israel high and dry?

Israel has repeatedly tried to sabotage any effort at peace. How many times have they assasinated negotiators in the midst of negotiations? 3 or 4?

They knew what the terms were and willfully violated them. Their continued blood lust is harming us. They're more instransigent and expansionist than Iran is. Let that sink in.

Do you have a better idea?

+1 Israel and Netanyahu specifically continue to benefit politically from this war while no one else does. If they can’t agree to stop bombing they are the problem.

Trump and his sons are benefiting Bigly. The way he has manipulated the market and nobody is calling it out is disgraceful. Barron played the polymarkets and reportedly got 11 figures betting and trading on the war. Don Jr and Erik were in the Middle East trying to sell their drones and weapons from their new defense company. While negotiating on behalf of the USA, Jared was as trying to get the Saudi and Emiratis to invest another 6 billion dollars in his firm. So the Trumps are definitely winning in this war, at least financially.

You really need to stop spreading unverified rumors you pick up from your social media.

Sure Shirley. Keep your head in the sand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So it looks like USA has to put pressure on Israel to stop bombing in order to open the Strait. This should be interesting.
I’m all for it. As long as Bibi is in control, we have to cut off Israel.

If you look at today's war footage from Beirut, it is very clear Israel is continuing with their mayhem. A lot of innocent people died today. But markets are up, so whatever. Maybe I was a little innocent before, but it is shocking how much power Israel has over the US. It's a midget county with no strategic relevance whatsoever, and we are spending billions and billions being their hired help and fighting their dumb wars. But I think Israel has sensed that both Democrats and Republicans have had enough of their crap, so they are going all in while a boomer tool like Trump is still in power. There will be no peace until a new administration cuts them off from all the weapons we send them. Israelis will continue to send it until that happens.

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Anonymous wrote:https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3miz2ahe4es2n

JD Vance: "I think this comes from a legitimate misunderstanding. I think the Iranians thought the ceasefire included Lebanon, and it just didn't. We never made that promise, we never indicated that was gonna be the case."

Lebanon was literally in the 10 point plan that the US agreed to. It is hard to understand if they are stupid, if they think we are stupid, if that are just that callous, or all of the above.

The US isn't bombing Lebanon. Israel is. Seems to me that Iran needs to be prosecuting a deal with Israel.

Just so we are clear: you are saying we should leave Israel high and dry?

Israel has repeatedly tried to sabotage any effort at peace. How many times have they assasinated negotiators in the midst of negotiations? 3 or 4?

They knew what the terms were and willfully violated them. Their continued blood lust is harming us. They're more instransigent and expansionist than Iran is. Let that sink in.

Do you have a better idea?

+1 Israel and Netanyahu specifically continue to benefit politically from this war while no one else does. If they can’t agree to stop bombing they are the problem.

Trump and his sons are benefiting Bigly. The way he has manipulated the market and nobody is calling it out is disgraceful. Barron played the polymarkets and reportedly got 11 figures betting and trading on the war. Don Jr and Erik were in the Middle East trying to sell their drones and weapons from their new defense company. While negotiating on behalf of the USA, Jared was as trying to get the Saudi and Emiratis to invest another 6 billion dollars in his firm. So the Trumps are definitely winning in this war, at least financially.

You really need to stop spreading unverified rumors you pick up from your social media.

Sure Shirley. Keep your head in the sand.

Idiot.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2026/03/09/barron-trump-buy-oil/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand why Republicans want this war with Iran. There was a perfectly good deal under Obama that constrained Iran's nuclear program and kept the Strait of Hormuz open for everyone. Every war plan and gaming exercise started with the assumption that Iran would seize control of Hormuz and take control of 20 percent of the world's oil and gas. That's rudimentary geopolitics. So why start a war at all when the US already had everything they wanted under Obama - free passage and no nukes for Iran. And now there is zero change Iran is going to give up control of Hormuz and abstain from pursuing nuclear weapons.

So what was the point? The US - and the world - is the huge strategic loser here. Are Republicans just dumbasses? Are Republicans all servile to Israel, which wants chaos in the Middle East? For America's interests, this may be the dumbest war in modern history.

That you actually think Iran wasn't well on its way to developing nuclear weapons - regardless of any "perfectly good deal under Obama" - just shows how naive you are.

Trump and the GOP ran on a promise of "no expensive war" and "Harris will.send your sons to war" and that's partially why MAGAs voted for him.

Who is naive now?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So it looks like USA has to put pressure on Israel to stop bombing in order to open the Strait. This should be interesting.
I’m all for it. As long as Bibi is in control, we have to cut off Israel.

If you look at today's war footage from Beirut, it is very clear Israel is continuing with their mayhem. A lot of innocent people died today. But markets are up, so whatever. Maybe I was a little innocent before, but it is shocking how much power Israel has over the US. It's a midget county with no strategic relevance whatsoever, and we are spending billions and billions being their hired help and fighting their dumb wars. But I think Israel has sensed that both Democrats and Republicans have had enough of their crap, so they are going all in while a boomer tool like Trump is still in power. There will be no peace until a new administration cuts them off from all the weapons we send them. Israelis will continue to send it until that happens.

That "midget" country punches *way* above its weight and provides the U.S. with crucial intelligence and power in a complicated region. You can dislike its current government, and even Jews in general if you lean that way, but let's not pretend that nation is irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand why Republicans want this war with Iran. There was a perfectly good deal under Obama that constrained Iran's nuclear program and kept the Strait of Hormuz open for everyone. Every war plan and gaming exercise started with the assumption that Iran would seize control of Hormuz and take control of 20 percent of the world's oil and gas. That's rudimentary geopolitics. So why start a war at all when the US already had everything they wanted under Obama - free passage and no nukes for Iran. And now there is zero change Iran is going to give up control of Hormuz and abstain from pursuing nuclear weapons.

So what was the point? The US - and the world - is the huge strategic loser here. Are Republicans just dumbasses? Are Republicans all servile to Israel, which wants chaos in the Middle East? For America's interests, this may be the dumbest war in modern history.

That you actually think Iran wasn't well on its way to developing nuclear weapons - regardless of any "perfectly good deal under Obama" - just shows how naive you are.

Why the hell should Americans care if Iran has a nuclear program? They're not going to launch missiles at Des Moines. And Republicans are perfectly fine with North Korea and Pakistan having nuclear weapons - and importantly the missiles - that can actually do some damage. The Obama agreement would have delayed Iran's capabilities for decades. What Republicans have done has ensured Iran will control the Strait of Hormuz and fast-track their nuclear program. It is the naivete and delusions of Republicans that have made everything much more dangerous. And again, we did this at Israel's behest. Maybe Republicans should spend a minute thinking about America's best interests.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand why Republicans want this war with Iran. There was a perfectly good deal under Obama that constrained Iran's nuclear program and kept the Strait of Hormuz open for everyone. Every war plan and gaming exercise started with the assumption that Iran would seize control of Hormuz and take control of 20 percent of the world's oil and gas. That's rudimentary geopolitics. So why start a war at all when the US already had everything they wanted under Obama - free passage and no nukes for Iran. And now there is zero change Iran is going to give up control of Hormuz and abstain from pursuing nuclear weapons.

So what was the point? The US - and the world - is the huge strategic loser here. Are Republicans just dumbasses? Are Republicans all servile to Israel, which wants chaos in the Middle East? For America's interests, this may be the dumbest war in modern history.

The point is backing Trump. If they don't, they're attacked. There is no reason that makes sense. It's their show of loyalty.

FFS - attacked? Are they babies or men who have agency? Such a pussy defense. They are spineless cowards who will prostrate themselves for a crumb.

Yeah, we agree. They are spineless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I still don't understand why Republicans want this war with Iran. There was a perfectly good deal under Obama that constrained Iran's nuclear program and kept the Strait of Hormuz open for everyone. Every war plan and gaming exercise started with the assumption that Iran would seize control of Hormuz and take control of 20 percent of the world's oil and gas. That's rudimentary geopolitics. So why start a war at all when the US already had everything they wanted under Obama - free passage and no nukes for Iran. And now there is zero change Iran is going to give up control of Hormuz and abstain from pursuing nuclear weapons.

So what was the point? The US - and the world - is the huge strategic loser here. Are Republicans just dumbasses? Are Republicans all servile to Israel, which wants chaos in the Middle East? For America's interests, this may be the dumbest war in modern history.

That you actually think Iran wasn't well on its way to developing nuclear weapons - regardless of any "perfectly good deal under Obama" - just shows how naive you are.

Show us the proof that under the JCPOA, Iran was violating the agreement and was developing nuclear weapons grade material.

(narrator: that didn't happen until after Trump pulled the US out of it)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So it looks like USA has to put pressure on Israel to stop bombing in order to open the Strait. This should be interesting.
I’m all for it. As long as Bibi is in control, we have to cut off Israel.

If you look at today's war footage from Beirut, it is very clear Israel is continuing with their mayhem. A lot of innocent people died today. But markets are up, so whatever. Maybe I was a little innocent before, but it is shocking how much power Israel has over the US. It's a midget county with no strategic relevance whatsoever, and we are spending billions and billions being their hired help and fighting their dumb wars. But I think Israel has sensed that both Democrats and Republicans have had enough of their crap, so they are going all in while a boomer tool like Trump is still in power. There will be no peace until a new administration cuts them off from all the weapons we send them. Israelis will continue to send it until that happens.

That "midget" country punches *way* above its weight and provides the U.S. with crucial intelligence and power in a complicated region. You can dislike its current government, and even Jews in general if you lean that way, but let's not pretend that nation is irrelevant.

Israel is not strategically relevant. It's not the Cold War era. Israel has an advanced economy and are useful in tech. But so is Romania and a lot of other countries. Israel has no oil. No Rare Earths. It's not a source of grain like Ukraine is. It doesn't control any shipping routes like Iran, and Panama and Egypt and Malaysia. It doesn't have an important semi-conductor facility like Taiwan does. Israel is completely irrelevant in 2026. And so asking why are we spending billions and billions and supporting Israel's belligerence is a very relevant question.

[Anonymous]

Trump and Vance trying to strong arm the Pope right now because they’re thinking 8-10 years out and the Pope can disrupt it all.

[Anonymous]

Each paragraph of this is worse than the next

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/04/08/us-not-won-iran-war-00864337


Fact is, we have a paradox. Trump wants out, but Iran has the upper hand and Israel won't listen to the US to stop their aggression.

Trump has taken a regional issue with mild US interests and turned it into a global catastrophe for the US.

[Anonymous]

Iran had admitted they enrich uranium and wants to continue to do so which is against the ageeement. This is a good agreement in that ic Iran doesn't follow the rules all countries are allowed and encouraged to bomb them until they do .

Furthermore Israel can do whatever they want to the terrorists in Lebanon or syria thats a separate matter.