Taylor Meeting at Wootton

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Anonymous wrote:The Wootten community finds itself defending certain actions and attitudes that to much of the county appear indefensible. Sometimes we are unsure just how to frame our response in terms of reason. We are not arguing against the Gaithersburg community as persons, but for the preservation of the neighborhood school and the geographic integrity of our communities, which are the only sure safeguards of our academic and neighborhood heritage.

That last sentence negates your argument. You want a bubble around your community to preserve the heritage. Again displaying the underlying classist attitudes coming from Wootton pkwy.

As a Wootten parent, this captures the sentiment of many. We just want what is best for our kids

The problem is that you think what is best is making sure they only go to school with certain kids because you fear certain other groups of kids. Thousands of wealthy White and Asian families in the county send our kids to school with the kids you fear and guess what, our kids are fine, going to college, and many will be your kids' bosses.

And, the best part is we aren't financially stretched.

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Anonymous wrote:The Wootten community finds itself defending certain actions and attitudes that to much of the county appear indefensible. Sometimes we are unsure just how to frame our response in terms of reason. We are not arguing against the Gaithersburg community as persons, but for the preservation of the neighborhood school and the geographic integrity of our communities, which are the only sure safeguards of our academic and neighborhood heritage.

That last sentence negates your argument. You want a bubble around your community to preserve the heritage. Again displaying the underlying classist attitudes coming from Wootton pkwy.

Not being from this area but moving here to have my kids go to Wootton, what’s the “heritage” people speak of? I actually don’t get it. The academic excellence? OAR? That Bush 1 visited? What is it?

Shootings, rapes, drugs, alcohol, maybe that?

You know. Brown people activities

Nope, these are happening at the mostly white and Asian schools the most lately. Keep up.

By the brown kids according to Wootten parents. If you can’t follow current please refrain from speaking. It’s better to stay silent and appear dumb, than type a response and confirming it for rest of us.

It's one or two parents... stop the nastiness. Why are you being like them?

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Anonymous wrote:First day at Crown in 2027, according to Wootton folks:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DV84-s5DBcp/?igsh=MTBwOGhxa214aXgwMg==

With all the reports about Wootton behavior, seems like it’s already going on there. Oh and thanks for sharing your ig handle

Oh my god! How hilarious.

Hi, James "Jimmy" Woo! Way to out yourself on DCUM.

Nooooo JimmyDubbs! We talked about links on the super secret whatsapp chat

oh my...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Wootten community finds itself defending certain actions and attitudes that to much of the county appear indefensible. Sometimes we are unsure just how to frame our response in terms of reason. We are not arguing against the Gaithersburg community as persons, but for the preservation of the neighborhood school and the geographic integrity of our communities, which are the only sure safeguards of our academic and neighborhood heritage.

That last sentence negates your argument. You want a bubble around your community to preserve the heritage. Again displaying the underlying classist attitudes coming from Wootton pkwy.

And Silver Spring and Damascus and Olney and go ahead and name all the communities in Montgomery County that are exactly the same.

Public school policy and governance are not based on the feelings of one supreme leader. They are based on laws, policies and procedures. If you don't understand that then MCPS really failed you in your education.

The nature of public school means no boundaries are forever and nothing is guaranteed. You want certainties then go private.

Duh. That's why there are laws and policies in place for how to make these changes. You want a king? Go live at the White House.

Process has been followed. Sorry you don't like the outcome.

Not even close. Sorry you can’t read.

DP- I've read this whole thread and there are a lot of assertions of improper process and violations of COMAR, etc. But not one person has identified a single process step that is required that has not been met, or a COMAR language that has been violated.

COMAR is probably not the place to find an issue; it defers a lot to the local school board. They'd have to assert that there was a breach in MCPS not following its own policies.

That said, there's two different arguments at play: whether the process followed the legal requirements vs. whether the process was done in a way that felt like a good, transparent process.

Even as a Pro-H person, the process has felt immensely chaotic. We looked over the initial 4 options, which were wildly different, because they were emphasizing different parts of the Policy FAA criteria. After freaking out about some of the options (option 3 was sheer lunacy), options A-D were presented which looked mostly fine in October.

Then the superintendent threw a bomb into the whole process by suggesting Crown as a holding school. Then Option H was included among the other options of Crown being a holding school, making Wootton the holding school and moving Wootton to Crown in December.

So, we started this process in July and the entire premise was upended more than half way through. Never mind that concurrently, they're also pushing through the biggest changes to the criteria programs in generations at the same time and arguing that the regional programs and boundary study are interlinked.

The process has generally been bad at setting expectations and getting community buy-in. We still have a lot of unanswered questions about the criteria program, but the Wootton issue is sucking so much oxygen that it's getting left behind.

For the Wootton move, I don't think a delay would make a huge difference; there's been plenty of vocal feedback and I'm not sure what new information can be surfaced with holding more hearings. The situation is the situation, MCPS has the data that they have, and the decision needs to be made soon so that the school is ready to open on-time.

I think the end result given the situation as it stands makes the most sense. Enrollment is declining, Wootton's current building is in bad shape, Wootton is close to the Crown building and its school boundaries are adjacent to the new building. It sucks that it's come to this point, because they neglected the Wootton building enough that it's in such poor shape and they stuck to poor projections that showed a new high school was needed. It's not great, but MCPS needs to think county and system wide.

Personally, it was Dr. Taylor's rationale - that he wanted to fill Crown right away since it's a new building. He could have considered temporary holding school for Magruder, and that would have more community and stakeholder buy-in. But right now, I think only City of Gaithersburg likes the reco. Everyone else is in opposition.

Not a good look for Supt or BOE. Poor governance.

It would be much better to reduce transitions.

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Anonymous wrote:The Wootten community finds itself defending certain actions and attitudes that to much of the county appear indefensible. Sometimes we are unsure just how to frame our response in terms of reason. We are not arguing against the Gaithersburg community as persons, but for the preservation of the neighborhood school and the geographic integrity of our communities, which are the only sure safeguards of our academic and neighborhood heritage.

That last sentence negates your argument. You want a bubble around your community to preserve the heritage. Again displaying the underlying classist attitudes coming from Wootton pkwy.

And Silver Spring and Damascus and Olney and go ahead and name all the communities in Montgomery County that are exactly the same.

Public school policy and governance are not based on the feelings of one supreme leader. They are based on laws, policies and procedures. If you don't understand that then MCPS really failed you in your education.

The nature of public school means no boundaries are forever and nothing is guaranteed. You want certainties then go private.

Duh. That's why there are laws and policies in place for how to make these changes. You want a king? Go live at the White House.

Process has been followed. Sorry you don't like the outcome.

Not even close. Sorry you can’t read.

DP- I've read this whole thread and there are a lot of assertions of improper process and violations of COMAR, etc. But not one person has identified a single process step that is required that has not been met, or a COMAR language that has been violated.

COMAR is probably not the place to find an issue; it defers a lot to the local school board. They'd have to assert that there was a breach in MCPS not following its own policies.

That said, there's two different arguments at play: whether the process followed the legal requirements vs. whether the process was done in a way that felt like a good, transparent process.

Even as a Pro-H person, the process has felt immensely chaotic. We looked over the initial 4 options, which were wildly different, because they were emphasizing different parts of the Policy FAA criteria. After freaking out about some of the options (option 3 was sheer lunacy), options A-D were presented which looked mostly fine in October.

Then the superintendent threw a bomb into the whole process by suggesting Crown as a holding school. Then Option H was included among the other options of Crown being a holding school, making Wootton the holding school and moving Wootton to Crown in December.

So, we started this process in July and the entire premise was upended more than half way through. Never mind that concurrently, they're also pushing through the biggest changes to the criteria programs in generations at the same time and arguing that the regional programs and boundary study are interlinked.

The process has generally been bad at setting expectations and getting community buy-in. We still have a lot of unanswered questions about the criteria program, but the Wootton issue is sucking so much oxygen that it's getting left behind.

For the Wootton move, I don't think a delay would make a huge difference; there's been plenty of vocal feedback and I'm not sure what new information can be surfaced with holding more hearings. The situation is the situation, MCPS has the data that they have, and the decision needs to be made soon so that the school is ready to open on-time.

I think the end result given the situation as it stands makes the most sense. Enrollment is declining, Wootton's current building is in bad shape, Wootton is close to the Crown building and its school boundaries are adjacent to the new building. It sucks that it's come to this point, because they neglected the Wootton building enough that it's in such poor shape and they stuck to poor projections that showed a new high school was needed. It's not great, but MCPS needs to think county and system wide.

They why aren't they thinking system wide? They are letting lots of schools rot with mold and defective HVAC systems.
If Taylor was thinking he would actually be studying each option instead of making decisions via post-it notes.

According to Wooton parents it now isn't that bad and can be fixed over a summer or two (which is basically six weeks). If the mold is that bad, they need to gut the building at a minimum, best to fully replace it.

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Anonymous wrote:The Wootten community finds itself defending certain actions and attitudes that to much of the county appear indefensible. Sometimes we are unsure just how to frame our response in terms of reason. We are not arguing against the Gaithersburg community as persons, but for the preservation of the neighborhood school and the geographic integrity of our communities, which are the only sure safeguards of our academic and neighborhood heritage.

That last sentence negates your argument. You want a bubble around your community to preserve the heritage. Again displaying the underlying classist attitudes coming from Wootton pkwy.

And Silver Spring and Damascus and Olney and go ahead and name all the communities in Montgomery County that are exactly the same.

Public school policy and governance are not based on the feelings of one supreme leader. They are based on laws, policies and procedures. If you don't understand that then MCPS really failed you in your education.

The nature of public school means no boundaries are forever and nothing is guaranteed. You want certainties then go private.

Duh. That's why there are laws and policies in place for how to make these changes. You want a king? Go live at the White House.

Process has been followed. Sorry you don't like the outcome.

Not even close. Sorry you can’t read.

DP- I've read this whole thread and there are a lot of assertions of improper process and violations of COMAR, etc. But not one person has identified a single process step that is required that has not been met, or a COMAR language that has been violated.

COMAR is probably not the place to find an issue; it defers a lot to the local school board. They'd have to assert that there was a breach in MCPS not following its own policies.

That said, there's two different arguments at play: whether the process followed the legal requirements vs. whether the process was done in a way that felt like a good, transparent process.

Even as a Pro-H person, the process has felt immensely chaotic. We looked over the initial 4 options, which were wildly different, because they were emphasizing different parts of the Policy FAA criteria. After freaking out about some of the options (option 3 was sheer lunacy), options A-D were presented which looked mostly fine in October.

Then the superintendent threw a bomb into the whole process by suggesting Crown as a holding school. Then Option H was included among the other options of Crown being a holding school, making Wootton the holding school and moving Wootton to Crown in December.

So, we started this process in July and the entire premise was upended more than half way through. Never mind that concurrently, they're also pushing through the biggest changes to the criteria programs in generations at the same time and arguing that the regional programs and boundary study are interlinked.

The process has generally been bad at setting expectations and getting community buy-in. We still have a lot of unanswered questions about the criteria program, but the Wootton issue is sucking so much oxygen that it's getting left behind.

For the Wootton move, I don't think a delay would make a huge difference; there's been plenty of vocal feedback and I'm not sure what new information can be surfaced with holding more hearings. The situation is the situation, MCPS has the data that they have, and the decision needs to be made soon so that the school is ready to open on-time.

I think the end result given the situation as it stands makes the most sense. Enrollment is declining, Wootton's current building is in bad shape, Wootton is close to the Crown building and its school boundaries are adjacent to the new building. It sucks that it's come to this point, because they neglected the Wootton building enough that it's in such poor shape and they stuck to poor projections that showed a new high school was needed. It's not great, but MCPS needs to think county and system wide.

They why aren't they thinking system wide? They are letting lots of schools rot with mold and defective HVAC systems.
If Taylor was thinking he would actually be studying each option instead of making decisions via post-it notes.

According to Wooton parents it now isn't that bad and can be fixed over a summer or two (which is basically six weeks). If the mold is that bad, they need to gut the building at a minimum, best to fully replace it.

There is money to do this. Taylor can’t buy his EV buses.

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Anonymous wrote:The Wootten community finds itself defending certain actions and attitudes that to much of the county appear indefensible. Sometimes we are unsure just how to frame our response in terms of reason. We are not arguing against the Gaithersburg community as persons, but for the preservation of the neighborhood school and the geographic integrity of our communities, which are the only sure safeguards of our academic and neighborhood heritage.

That last sentence negates your argument. You want a bubble around your community to preserve the heritage. Again displaying the underlying classist attitudes coming from Wootton pkwy.

And Silver Spring and Damascus and Olney and go ahead and name all the communities in Montgomery County that are exactly the same.

Public school policy and governance are not based on the feelings of one supreme leader. They are based on laws, policies and procedures. If you don't understand that then MCPS really failed you in your education.

The nature of public school means no boundaries are forever and nothing is guaranteed. You want certainties then go private.

Duh. That's why there are laws and policies in place for how to make these changes. You want a king? Go live at the White House.

Process has been followed. Sorry you don't like the outcome.

Not even close. Sorry you can’t read.

DP- I've read this whole thread and there are a lot of assertions of improper process and violations of COMAR, etc. But not one person has identified a single process step that is required that has not been met, or a COMAR language that has been violated.

COMAR is probably not the place to find an issue; it defers a lot to the local school board. They'd have to assert that there was a breach in MCPS not following its own policies.

That said, there's two different arguments at play: whether the process followed the legal requirements vs. whether the process was done in a way that felt like a good, transparent process.

Even as a Pro-H person, the process has felt immensely chaotic. We looked over the initial 4 options, which were wildly different, because they were emphasizing different parts of the Policy FAA criteria. After freaking out about some of the options (option 3 was sheer lunacy), options A-D were presented which looked mostly fine in October.

Then the superintendent threw a bomb into the whole process by suggesting Crown as a holding school. Then Option H was included among the other options of Crown being a holding school, making Wootton the holding school and moving Wootton to Crown in December.

So, we started this process in July and the entire premise was upended more than half way through. Never mind that concurrently, they're also pushing through the biggest changes to the criteria programs in generations at the same time and arguing that the regional programs and boundary study are interlinked.

The process has generally been bad at setting expectations and getting community buy-in. We still have a lot of unanswered questions about the criteria program, but the Wootton issue is sucking so much oxygen that it's getting left behind.

For the Wootton move, I don't think a delay would make a huge difference; there's been plenty of vocal feedback and I'm not sure what new information can be surfaced with holding more hearings. The situation is the situation, MCPS has the data that they have, and the decision needs to be made soon so that the school is ready to open on-time.

I think the end result given the situation as it stands makes the most sense. Enrollment is declining, Wootton's current building is in bad shape, Wootton is close to the Crown building and its school boundaries are adjacent to the new building. It sucks that it's come to this point, because they neglected the Wootton building enough that it's in such poor shape and they stuck to poor projections that showed a new high school was needed. It's not great, but MCPS needs to think county and system wide.

They why aren't they thinking system wide? They are letting lots of schools rot with mold and defective HVAC systems.
If Taylor was thinking he would actually be studying each option instead of making decisions via post-it notes.

According to Wooton parents it now isn't that bad and can be fixed over a summer or two (which is basically six weeks). If the mold is that bad, they need to gut the building at a minimum, best to fully replace it.

There is money to do this. Taylor can’t buy his EV buses.

The EV bus contract isn't even enough to pay for the Magruder renovation, which I have heard Wootton parents repeatedly and generously insistent MUST got first.

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Anonymous wrote:First day at Crown in 2027, according to Wootton folks:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DV84-s5DBcp/?igsh=MTBwOGhxa214aXgwMg==

With all the reports about Wootton behavior, seems like it’s already going on there. Oh and thanks for sharing your ig handle

Oh my god! How hilarious.

Hi, James "Jimmy" Woo! Way to out yourself on DCUM.

Nooooo JimmyDubbs! We talked about links on the super secret whatsapp chat

oh my...

Get ya popcorn ready

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:First day at Crown in 2027, according to Wootton folks:
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DV84-s5DBcp/?igsh=MTBwOGhxa214aXgwMg==

With all the reports about Wootton behavior, seems like it’s already going on there. Oh and thanks for sharing your ig handle

Oh my god! How hilarious.

Hi, James "Jimmy" Woo! Way to out yourself on DCUM.

Nooooo JimmyDubbs! We talked about links on the super secret whatsapp chat

oh my...

Has JDubbs showed up yet to clear his name? Where ya at? In the other Crown thread, those being spoken of have showed up to say their piece & give context. I rather liked it. JDubbs, we wanna hear from ya.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I asked the original question about what violation- COMAR or other use occurred. Appreciate the earlier rational response and agree with most of it.

There is a HUGE difference between a process that could have been a lot smoother, and a process that is legally insufficient. Haven’t seen a coherent argument that it is legally insufficient.

That’s for a judge to decide.

This is a silly response.

I haven’t even seen an allegation of any actual process violation. Sure judges decide the merits of lawsuits. But normally people who threaten to file lawsuits are able to articulate an actual basis.

And it not normal to assert that the basis is some super secret inappropriate for discussion on a forum that is literally about that issue.

The asserted basis of lawsuits gets dismissed all the time. Extremely odd that there isn’t one here.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Wootten community finds itself defending certain actions and attitudes that to much of the county appear indefensible. Sometimes we are unsure just how to frame our response in terms of reason. We are not arguing against the Gaithersburg community as persons, but for the preservation of the neighborhood school and the geographic integrity of our communities, which are the only sure safeguards of our academic and neighborhood heritage.

That last sentence negates your argument. You want a bubble around your community to preserve the heritage. Again displaying the underlying classist attitudes coming from Wootton pkwy.

And Silver Spring and Damascus and Olney and go ahead and name all the communities in Montgomery County that are exactly the same.

Public school policy and governance are not based on the feelings of one supreme leader. They are based on laws, policies and procedures. If you don't understand that then MCPS really failed you in your education.

The nature of public school means no boundaries are forever and nothing is guaranteed. You want certainties then go private.

Duh. That's why there are laws and policies in place for how to make these changes. You want a king? Go live at the White House.

Process has been followed. Sorry you don't like the outcome.

Not even close. Sorry you can’t read.

DP- I've read this whole thread and there are a lot of assertions of improper process and violations of COMAR, etc. But not one person has identified a single process step that is required that has not been met, or a COMAR language that has been violated.

COMAR is probably not the place to find an issue; it defers a lot to the local school board. They'd have to assert that there was a breach in MCPS not following its own policies.

That said, there's two different arguments at play: whether the process followed the legal requirements vs. whether the process was done in a way that felt like a good, transparent process.

Even as a Pro-H person, the process has felt immensely chaotic. We looked over the initial 4 options, which were wildly different, because they were emphasizing different parts of the Policy FAA criteria. After freaking out about some of the options (option 3 was sheer lunacy), options A-D were presented which looked mostly fine in October.

Then the superintendent threw a bomb into the whole process by suggesting Crown as a holding school. Then Option H was included among the other options of Crown being a holding school, making Wootton the holding school and moving Wootton to Crown in December.

So, we started this process in July and the entire premise was upended more than half way through. Never mind that concurrently, they're also pushing through the biggest changes to the criteria programs in generations at the same time and arguing that the regional programs and boundary study are interlinked.

The process has generally been bad at setting expectations and getting community buy-in. We still have a lot of unanswered questions about the criteria program, but the Wootton issue is sucking so much oxygen that it's getting left behind.

For the Wootton move, I don't think a delay would make a huge difference; there's been plenty of vocal feedback and I'm not sure what new information can be surfaced with holding more hearings. The situation is the situation, MCPS has the data that they have, and the decision needs to be made soon so that the school is ready to open on-time.

I think the end result given the situation as it stands makes the most sense. Enrollment is declining, Wootton's current building is in bad shape, Wootton is close to the Crown building and its school boundaries are adjacent to the new building. It sucks that it's come to this point, because they neglected the Wootton building enough that it's in such poor shape and they stuck to poor projections that showed a new high school was needed. It's not great, but MCPS needs to think county and system wide.

They why aren't they thinking system wide? They are letting lots of schools rot with mold and defective HVAC systems.
If Taylor was thinking he would actually be studying each option instead of making decisions via post-it notes.

According to Wooton parents it now isn't that bad and can be fixed over a summer or two (which is basically six weeks). If the mold is that bad, they need to gut the building at a minimum, best to fully replace it.

There is money to do this. Taylor can’t buy his EV buses.

Even if they had the money, it would easily take a year or two to gut it to deal with the mold. It’s not a simple fix. Changing the hvac is only one step.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Wootten community finds itself defending certain actions and attitudes that to much of the county appear indefensible. Sometimes we are unsure just how to frame our response in terms of reason. We are not arguing against the Gaithersburg community as persons, but for the preservation of the neighborhood school and the geographic integrity of our communities, which are the only sure safeguards of our academic and neighborhood heritage.

That last sentence negates your argument. You want a bubble around your community to preserve the heritage. Again displaying the underlying classist attitudes coming from Wootton pkwy.

And Silver Spring and Damascus and Olney and go ahead and name all the communities in Montgomery County that are exactly the same.

Public school policy and governance are not based on the feelings of one supreme leader. They are based on laws, policies and procedures. If you don't understand that then MCPS really failed you in your education.

The nature of public school means no boundaries are forever and nothing is guaranteed. You want certainties then go private.

Duh. That's why there are laws and policies in place for how to make these changes. You want a king? Go live at the White House.

Process has been followed. Sorry you don't like the outcome.

Not even close. Sorry you can’t read.

DP- I've read this whole thread and there are a lot of assertions of improper process and violations of COMAR, etc. But not one person has identified a single process step that is required that has not been met, or a COMAR language that has been violated.

COMAR is probably not the place to find an issue; it defers a lot to the local school board. They'd have to assert that there was a breach in MCPS not following its own policies.

That said, there's two different arguments at play: whether the process followed the legal requirements vs. whether the process was done in a way that felt like a good, transparent process.

Even as a Pro-H person, the process has felt immensely chaotic. We looked over the initial 4 options, which were wildly different, because they were emphasizing different parts of the Policy FAA criteria. After freaking out about some of the options (option 3 was sheer lunacy), options A-D were presented which looked mostly fine in October.

Then the superintendent threw a bomb into the whole process by suggesting Crown as a holding school. Then Option H was included among the other options of Crown being a holding school, making Wootton the holding school and moving Wootton to Crown in December.

So, we started this process in July and the entire premise was upended more than half way through. Never mind that concurrently, they're also pushing through the biggest changes to the criteria programs in generations at the same time and arguing that the regional programs and boundary study are interlinked.

The process has generally been bad at setting expectations and getting community buy-in. We still have a lot of unanswered questions about the criteria program, but the Wootton issue is sucking so much oxygen that it's getting left behind.

For the Wootton move, I don't think a delay would make a huge difference; there's been plenty of vocal feedback and I'm not sure what new information can be surfaced with holding more hearings. The situation is the situation, MCPS has the data that they have, and the decision needs to be made soon so that the school is ready to open on-time.

I think the end result given the situation as it stands makes the most sense. Enrollment is declining, Wootton's current building is in bad shape, Wootton is close to the Crown building and its school boundaries are adjacent to the new building. It sucks that it's come to this point, because they neglected the Wootton building enough that it's in such poor shape and they stuck to poor projections that showed a new high school was needed. It's not great, but MCPS needs to think county and system wide.

They why aren't they thinking system wide? They are letting lots of schools rot with mold and defective HVAC systems.
If Taylor was thinking he would actually be studying each option instead of making decisions via post-it notes.

Only Wootton and Magruder are complaining. Mcps doesn’t care about the schools nor do you.

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Anonymous wrote:I asked the original question about what violation- COMAR or other use occurred. Appreciate the earlier rational response and agree with most of it.

There is a HUGE difference between a process that could have been a lot smoother, and a process that is legally insufficient. Haven’t seen a coherent argument that it is legally insufficient.

That’s for a judge to decide.

This is a silly response.

I haven’t even seen an allegation of any actual process violation. Sure judges decide the merits of lawsuits. But normally people who threaten to file lawsuits are able to articulate an actual basis.

And it not normal to assert that the basis is some super secret inappropriate for discussion on a forum that is literally about that issue.

The asserted basis of lawsuits gets dismissed all the time. Extremely odd that there isn’t one here.

They have to file first….

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I asked the original question about what violation- COMAR or other use occurred. Appreciate the earlier rational response and agree with most of it.

There is a HUGE difference between a process that could have been a lot smoother, and a process that is legally insufficient. Haven’t seen a coherent argument that it is legally insufficient.

That’s for a judge to decide.

This is a silly response.

I haven’t even seen an allegation of any actual process violation. Sure judges decide the merits of lawsuits. But normally people who threaten to file lawsuits are able to articulate an actual basis.

And it not normal to assert that the basis is some super secret inappropriate for discussion on a forum that is literally about that issue.

The asserted basis of lawsuits gets dismissed all the time. Extremely odd that there isn’t one here.

Not odd at all. The people threatening to sue don't care about the process at all and certainly don't know if or how MCPS failed to adhere to it. This is a weak attempt to scare the BOE into rejecting Taylor's recommendation. Really at its heart, it is a temper tantrum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I asked the original question about what violation- COMAR or other use occurred. Appreciate the earlier rational response and agree with most of it.

There is a HUGE difference between a process that could have been a lot smoother, and a process that is legally insufficient. Haven’t seen a coherent argument that it is legally insufficient.

That’s for a judge to decide.

This is a silly response.

I haven’t even seen an allegation of any actual process violation. Sure judges decide the merits of lawsuits. But normally people who threaten to file lawsuits are able to articulate an actual basis.

And it not normal to assert that the basis is some super secret inappropriate for discussion on a forum that is literally about that issue.

The asserted basis of lawsuits gets dismissed all the time. Extremely odd that there isn’t one here.

Not odd at all. The people threatening to sue don't care about the process at all and certainly don't know if or how MCPS failed to adhere to it. This is a weak attempt to scare the BOE into rejecting Taylor's recommendation. Really at its heart, it is a temper tantrum.

Check the mirror.

Whenever the BOE fails to follow Policy they get sued.

If you want to talk about temper tantrums, go follow your man in the white house. He's a pro.