Do you think feminism has been a net positive or net negative for relationships?

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Anonymous wrote:Feminism brought women choices, so they didn't have to stay in abusive marriages, could own property, have any job (not just nurses and teachers), and the ability to choose to have a baby or not: the same rights white men have always had.

100% positive

all that happened before feminism.

Female children were sometimes killed at birth, not get inheritance, not get right to divorce, alimony or child support. In Arab, Islam changed that.

But man was allowed to have 4 wives?? Islam is a barbaric and backward religion.

I think we can all agree that any religion that provides for the subservience of women to men is barbaric and backward.

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Anonymous wrote:True feminism has been a positive.
The " feminism" of the last decade is a negative.

What do you mean by "the feminism of the last decade"?

The everything is mens fault brand of feminism,

Come back when your gripes make into policy or law.

Like men getting longer sentences for committing the same crimes?

You should do some research. Men often get substantially lighter sentences for assaulting and killing women than women get for killing their abusers.

DP and the one he initially responded to. It's also not a matter of law or policy, so his argument is moot even though it's very inaccurate.

Just like the gender pay disparity right?

Well luckily, we have data on that as well. And agian, you're full of shit.

IT is telling, though that when you're called out on your BS you just pivot to a different subject. Why is that?

As a matter of law and policy? Let's see it. Woosh, the point went right over your head. You want different standards on what constitutes "law and policy" for different disparities. A literal sentencing disparity does not count as "law and policy" in your world. Why? Because you're a biased hypocrite.

Oh FFS. One, you can't stay on the subject. Two, MEN created the pay disparity. They simply didn't feel that women needed to earn as much since their husbands were the main providers for their family. Nothing imagined or made up about it. We have decades of data. Men like you still moan about the fact that women now demand to be paid the same as their male counterparts. But sure, minimum wage is the same for both genders as a matter of law. Thank a fellow Democrat for that.

Secondly, you keep harping on sentencing disparities, but you're just wrong. It DOES NOT HAPPEN. It's not hypocritical to tell you your statement is not supported by facts. SOOOOO if it's not TRUE in either law or policy OR practice, it's time for you to drop your ignorant argument.

You can't just declare things, goofy. I posted a source, you posted your fee fees.

Oh I see your source now....bahahahahahahhaa

You posted one working paper and think you've uncovered the holy grail. Silly really.

Ah right, let's go with your fee fees.

No idea what fees fees are. Perhaps more made-up stuff from you.

I means you hand wave away things that are inconvenient for whatever little biased narrative you've built in your head.

if you were succesful in proving your point, it wouldn't be an issue. but you latched on to that one working paper like it's some kind of authority and mock decades of data that prove you wrong. But like any good misogynist, you're not swayed by facts.

More hand waving. Show the “data”.

It's like having to prove to a monkey that the Earth is not flat.

Translation: my frantic google searching came up empty .

This isn't even disputed. https://www.google.com/search?q=pay+disparity+between+men+and+women&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1179US1179&oq=pay+dispa&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgFEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgBEAAYgAQyBggCEEUYOTIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABNIBCDUxNjJqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Hopefully, you'll be able to read the big words in the links provided.

This is about the sentencing disparity, doofus. Holy crap, you are slow.

Oh so you didn't claim that the pay gap doesn't exist? So you agree on that?????

Also, when you make the claim, YOU are the one who needs to support it. I'm not doing your work for you.

But hey, when you're losing an argument, the best strategy is to call the other person slow. That makes you look super credible.

Goodness, you are slow and dishonest. Rebutting claims that have not been made and making yourself look like a fool. Enjoy trolling, clown.

It's literally in this thread. This is what you said, "Just like the gender pay disparity right?"

I see now that you're incapable of actually debating and the only thing you have going for you are childish personal insults. Bye now!

Wooosh lol. Slow down, follow the thread and read better. There is no claim that the gender pay disparity does not exist. You just like fighting straw men and deflecting.

Trying to weasel your way out of handwaving away evidence for the sentencing disparity and then provides google search results as "authority" but poo poos anything else. Truly clown behavior lol.

So you didn't make the claim that pay disparity doesn't exist? What did you mean by that post then?

I'm dying to know.

Again, it's your job to provide proof for the claims you're making. Not mine. Come back when you can do that.

FYI, coming back with more personal insults instead of facts just makes you look unintelligent and doesn't bolster your argument.

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Anonymous wrote:True feminism has been a positive.
The " feminism" of the last decade is a negative.

What do you mean by "the feminism of the last decade"?

The everything is mens fault brand of feminism,

Come back when your gripes make into policy or law.

Like men getting longer sentences for committing the same crimes?

You should do some research. Men often get substantially lighter sentences for assaulting and killing women than women get for killing their abusers.

DP and the one he initially responded to. It's also not a matter of law or policy, so his argument is moot even though it's very inaccurate.

Just like the gender pay disparity right?

Well luckily, we have data on that as well. And agian, you're full of shit.

IT is telling, though that when you're called out on your BS you just pivot to a different subject. Why is that?

As a matter of law and policy? Let's see it. Woosh, the point went right over your head. You want different standards on what constitutes "law and policy" for different disparities. A literal sentencing disparity does not count as "law and policy" in your world. Why? Because you're a biased hypocrite.

Oh FFS. One, you can't stay on the subject. Two, MEN created the pay disparity. They simply didn't feel that women needed to earn as much since their husbands were the main providers for their family. Nothing imagined or made up about it. We have decades of data. Men like you still moan about the fact that women now demand to be paid the same as their male counterparts. But sure, minimum wage is the same for both genders as a matter of law. Thank a fellow Democrat for that.

Secondly, you keep harping on sentencing disparities, but you're just wrong. It DOES NOT HAPPEN. It's not hypocritical to tell you your statement is not supported by facts. SOOOOO if it's not TRUE in either law or policy OR practice, it's time for you to drop your ignorant argument.

You can't just declare things, goofy. I posted a source, you posted your fee fees.

Oh I see your source now....bahahahahahahhaa

You posted one working paper and think you've uncovered the holy grail. Silly really.

Ah right, let's go with your fee fees.

No idea what fees fees are. Perhaps more made-up stuff from you.

I means you hand wave away things that are inconvenient for whatever little biased narrative you've built in your head.

if you were succesful in proving your point, it wouldn't be an issue. but you latched on to that one working paper like it's some kind of authority and mock decades of data that prove you wrong. But like any good misogynist, you're not swayed by facts.

More hand waving. Show the “data”.

It's like having to prove to a monkey that the Earth is not flat.

Translation: my frantic google searching came up empty .

This isn't even disputed. https://www.google.com/search?q=pay+disparity+between+men+and+women&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1179US1179&oq=pay+dispa&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgFEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgBEAAYgAQyBggCEEUYOTIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABNIBCDUxNjJqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Hopefully, you'll be able to read the big words in the links provided.

This is about the sentencing disparity, doofus. Holy crap, you are slow.

Oh so you didn't claim that the pay gap doesn't exist? So you agree on that?????

Also, when you make the claim, YOU are the one who needs to support it. I'm not doing your work for you.

But hey, when you're losing an argument, the best strategy is to call the other person slow. That makes you look super credible.

Goodness, you are slow and dishonest. Rebutting claims that have not been made and making yourself look like a fool. Enjoy trolling, clown.

It's literally in this thread. This is what you said, "Just like the gender pay disparity right?"

I see now that you're incapable of actually debating and the only thing you have going for you are childish personal insults. Bye now!

Wooosh lol. Slow down, follow the thread and read better. There is no claim that the gender pay disparity does not exist. You just like fighting straw men and deflecting.

Trying to weasel your way out of handwaving away evidence for the sentencing disparity and then provides google search results as "authority" but poo poos anything else. Truly clown behavior lol.

So you didn't make the claim that pay disparity doesn't exist? What did you mean by that post then?

I'm dying to know.

Again, it's your job to provide proof for the claims you're making. Not mine. Come back when you can do that.

FYI, coming back with more personal insults instead of facts just makes you look unintelligent and doesn't bolster your argument.

It's in the thread. Go back and read. I provided evidence, and you hand waived it away (without even bothering to counter anything presented in it) and then provided google search as sufficient evidence for whatever you thought I was arguing lol. You're a hypocrite and apply different standards as you see fit to suit your agenda. You are not a good faith interlocutor. You are a deflector.

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Anonymous wrote:True feminism has been a positive.
The " feminism" of the last decade is a negative.

What do you mean by "the feminism of the last decade"?

The everything is mens fault brand of feminism,

Come back when your gripes make into policy or law.

Like men getting longer sentences for committing the same crimes?

You should do some research. Men often get substantially lighter sentences for assaulting and killing women than women get for killing their abusers.

DP and the one he initially responded to. It's also not a matter of law or policy, so his argument is moot even though it's very inaccurate.

Just like the gender pay disparity right?

Well luckily, we have data on that as well. And agian, you're full of shit.

IT is telling, though that when you're called out on your BS you just pivot to a different subject. Why is that?

As a matter of law and policy? Let's see it. Woosh, the point went right over your head. You want different standards on what constitutes "law and policy" for different disparities. A literal sentencing disparity does not count as "law and policy" in your world. Why? Because you're a biased hypocrite.

Oh FFS. One, you can't stay on the subject. Two, MEN created the pay disparity. They simply didn't feel that women needed to earn as much since their husbands were the main providers for their family. Nothing imagined or made up about it. We have decades of data. Men like you still moan about the fact that women now demand to be paid the same as their male counterparts. But sure, minimum wage is the same for both genders as a matter of law. Thank a fellow Democrat for that.

Secondly, you keep harping on sentencing disparities, but you're just wrong. It DOES NOT HAPPEN. It's not hypocritical to tell you your statement is not supported by facts. SOOOOO if it's not TRUE in either law or policy OR practice, it's time for you to drop your ignorant argument.

You can't just declare things, goofy. I posted a source, you posted your fee fees.

Oh I see your source now....bahahahahahahhaa

You posted one working paper and think you've uncovered the holy grail. Silly really.

Ah right, let's go with your fee fees.

No idea what fees fees are. Perhaps more made-up stuff from you.

I means you hand wave away things that are inconvenient for whatever little biased narrative you've built in your head.

if you were succesful in proving your point, it wouldn't be an issue. but you latched on to that one working paper like it's some kind of authority and mock decades of data that prove you wrong. But like any good misogynist, you're not swayed by facts.

More hand waving. Show the “data”.

It's like having to prove to a monkey that the Earth is not flat.

Translation: my frantic google searching came up empty .

This isn't even disputed. https://www.google.com/search?q=pay+disparity+between+men+and+women&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1179US1179&oq=pay+dispa&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgFEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgBEAAYgAQyBggCEEUYOTIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABNIBCDUxNjJqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Hopefully, you'll be able to read the big words in the links provided.

This is about the sentencing disparity, doofus. Holy crap, you are slow.

Oh so you didn't claim that the pay gap doesn't exist? So you agree on that?????

Also, when you make the claim, YOU are the one who needs to support it. I'm not doing your work for you.

But hey, when you're losing an argument, the best strategy is to call the other person slow. That makes you look super credible.

Goodness, you are slow and dishonest. Rebutting claims that have not been made and making yourself look like a fool. Enjoy trolling, clown.

It's literally in this thread. This is what you said, "Just like the gender pay disparity right?"

I see now that you're incapable of actually debating and the only thing you have going for you are childish personal insults. Bye now!

Wooosh lol. Slow down, follow the thread and read better. There is no claim that the gender pay disparity does not exist. You just like fighting straw men and deflecting.

Trying to weasel your way out of handwaving away evidence for the sentencing disparity and then provides google search results as "authority" but poo poos anything else. Truly clown behavior lol.

So you didn't make the claim that pay disparity doesn't exist? What did you mean by that post then?

I'm dying to know.

Again, it's your job to provide proof for the claims you're making. Not mine. Come back when you can do that.

FYI, coming back with more personal insults instead of facts just makes you look unintelligent and doesn't bolster your argument.

It's in the thread. Go back and read. I provided evidence, and you hand waived it away (without even bothering to counter anything presented in it) and then provided google search as sufficient evidence for whatever you thought I was arguing lol. You're a hypocrite and apply different standards as you see fit to suit your agenda. You are not a good faith interlocutor. You are a deflector.

I did look at that one link you provided to a working paper (not a study with conclusive evidence BTW). Is that all you got? A singular working paper?

A Google search provided a half a dozen credible sources (such as the Bureau of Labor and Statistics), which you didn't bother reading, but that's on you.

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Anonymous wrote:True feminism has been a positive.
The " feminism" of the last decade is a negative.

What do you mean by "the feminism of the last decade"?

The everything is mens fault brand of feminism,

Come back when your gripes make into policy or law.

Like men getting longer sentences for committing the same crimes?

You should do some research. Men often get substantially lighter sentences for assaulting and killing women than women get for killing their abusers.

DP and the one he initially responded to. It's also not a matter of law or policy, so his argument is moot even though it's very inaccurate.

Just like the gender pay disparity right?

Well luckily, we have data on that as well. And agian, you're full of shit.

IT is telling, though that when you're called out on your BS you just pivot to a different subject. Why is that?

As a matter of law and policy? Let's see it. Woosh, the point went right over your head. You want different standards on what constitutes "law and policy" for different disparities. A literal sentencing disparity does not count as "law and policy" in your world. Why? Because you're a biased hypocrite.

Oh FFS. One, you can't stay on the subject. Two, MEN created the pay disparity. They simply didn't feel that women needed to earn as much since their husbands were the main providers for their family. Nothing imagined or made up about it. We have decades of data. Men like you still moan about the fact that women now demand to be paid the same as their male counterparts. But sure, minimum wage is the same for both genders as a matter of law. Thank a fellow Democrat for that.

Secondly, you keep harping on sentencing disparities, but you're just wrong. It DOES NOT HAPPEN. It's not hypocritical to tell you your statement is not supported by facts. SOOOOO if it's not TRUE in either law or policy OR practice, it's time for you to drop your ignorant argument.

You can't just declare things, goofy. I posted a source, you posted your fee fees.

Oh I see your source now....bahahahahahahhaa

You posted one working paper and think you've uncovered the holy grail. Silly really.

Ah right, let's go with your fee fees.

No idea what fees fees are. Perhaps more made-up stuff from you.

I means you hand wave away things that are inconvenient for whatever little biased narrative you've built in your head.

if you were succesful in proving your point, it wouldn't be an issue. but you latched on to that one working paper like it's some kind of authority and mock decades of data that prove you wrong. But like any good misogynist, you're not swayed by facts.

More hand waving. Show the “data”.

It's like having to prove to a monkey that the Earth is not flat.

Translation: my frantic google searching came up empty .

This isn't even disputed. https://www.google.com/search?q=pay+disparity+between+men+and+women&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1179US1179&oq=pay+dispa&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgFEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgBEAAYgAQyBggCEEUYOTIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABNIBCDUxNjJqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Hopefully, you'll be able to read the big words in the links provided.

This is about the sentencing disparity, doofus. Holy crap, you are slow.

Oh so you didn't claim that the pay gap doesn't exist? So you agree on that?????

Also, when you make the claim, YOU are the one who needs to support it. I'm not doing your work for you.

But hey, when you're losing an argument, the best strategy is to call the other person slow. That makes you look super credible.

Goodness, you are slow and dishonest. Rebutting claims that have not been made and making yourself look like a fool. Enjoy trolling, clown.

It's literally in this thread. This is what you said, "Just like the gender pay disparity right?"

I see now that you're incapable of actually debating and the only thing you have going for you are childish personal insults. Bye now!

Wooosh lol. Slow down, follow the thread and read better. There is no claim that the gender pay disparity does not exist. You just like fighting straw men and deflecting.

Trying to weasel your way out of handwaving away evidence for the sentencing disparity and then provides google search results as "authority" but poo poos anything else. Truly clown behavior lol.

So you didn't make the claim that pay disparity doesn't exist? What did you mean by that post then?

I'm dying to know.

Again, it's your job to provide proof for the claims you're making. Not mine. Come back when you can do that.

FYI, coming back with more personal insults instead of facts just makes you look unintelligent and doesn't bolster your argument.

It's in the thread. Go back and read. I provided evidence, and you hand waived it away (without even bothering to counter anything presented in it) and then provided google search as sufficient evidence for whatever you thought I was arguing lol. You're a hypocrite and apply different standards as you see fit to suit your agenda. You are not a good faith interlocutor. You are a deflector.

I did look at that one link you provided to a working paper (not a study with conclusive evidence BTW). Is that all you got? A singular working paper?

A Google search provided a half a dozen credible sources (such as the Bureau of Labor and Statistics), which you didn't bother reading, but that's on you.

You're deflecting again. And handwaving. And arguing against strawmen. It's all you do.

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Anonymous wrote:True feminism has been a positive.
The " feminism" of the last decade is a negative.

What do you mean by "the feminism of the last decade"?

The everything is mens fault brand of feminism,

Come back when your gripes make into policy or law.

Like men getting longer sentences for committing the same crimes?

You should do some research. Men often get substantially lighter sentences for assaulting and killing women than women get for killing their abusers.

DP and the one he initially responded to. It's also not a matter of law or policy, so his argument is moot even though it's very inaccurate.

Just like the gender pay disparity right?

Well luckily, we have data on that as well. And agian, you're full of shit.

IT is telling, though that when you're called out on your BS you just pivot to a different subject. Why is that?

As a matter of law and policy? Let's see it. Woosh, the point went right over your head. You want different standards on what constitutes "law and policy" for different disparities. A literal sentencing disparity does not count as "law and policy" in your world. Why? Because you're a biased hypocrite.

Oh FFS. One, you can't stay on the subject. Two, MEN created the pay disparity. They simply didn't feel that women needed to earn as much since their husbands were the main providers for their family. Nothing imagined or made up about it. We have decades of data. Men like you still moan about the fact that women now demand to be paid the same as their male counterparts. But sure, minimum wage is the same for both genders as a matter of law. Thank a fellow Democrat for that.

Secondly, you keep harping on sentencing disparities, but you're just wrong. It DOES NOT HAPPEN. It's not hypocritical to tell you your statement is not supported by facts. SOOOOO if it's not TRUE in either law or policy OR practice, it's time for you to drop your ignorant argument.

You can't just declare things, goofy. I posted a source, you posted your fee fees.

Oh I see your source now....bahahahahahahhaa

You posted one working paper and think you've uncovered the holy grail. Silly really.

Ah right, let's go with your fee fees.

No idea what fees fees are. Perhaps more made-up stuff from you.

I means you hand wave away things that are inconvenient for whatever little biased narrative you've built in your head.

if you were succesful in proving your point, it wouldn't be an issue. but you latched on to that one working paper like it's some kind of authority and mock decades of data that prove you wrong. But like any good misogynist, you're not swayed by facts.

More hand waving. Show the “data”.

It's like having to prove to a monkey that the Earth is not flat.

Translation: my frantic google searching came up empty .

This isn't even disputed. https://www.google.com/search?q=pay+disparity+between+men+and+women&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1179US1179&oq=pay+dispa&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgFEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgBEAAYgAQyBggCEEUYOTIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABNIBCDUxNjJqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Hopefully, you'll be able to read the big words in the links provided.

This is about the sentencing disparity, doofus. Holy crap, you are slow.

Oh so you didn't claim that the pay gap doesn't exist? So you agree on that?????

Also, when you make the claim, YOU are the one who needs to support it. I'm not doing your work for you.

But hey, when you're losing an argument, the best strategy is to call the other person slow. That makes you look super credible.

Goodness, you are slow and dishonest. Rebutting claims that have not been made and making yourself look like a fool. Enjoy trolling, clown.

It's literally in this thread. This is what you said, "Just like the gender pay disparity right?"

I see now that you're incapable of actually debating and the only thing you have going for you are childish personal insults. Bye now!

Wooosh lol. Slow down, follow the thread and read better. There is no claim that the gender pay disparity does not exist. You just like fighting straw men and deflecting.

Trying to weasel your way out of handwaving away evidence for the sentencing disparity and then provides google search results as "authority" but poo poos anything else. Truly clown behavior lol.

So you didn't make the claim that pay disparity doesn't exist? What did you mean by that post then?

I'm dying to know.

Again, it's your job to provide proof for the claims you're making. Not mine. Come back when you can do that.

FYI, coming back with more personal insults instead of facts just makes you look unintelligent and doesn't bolster your argument.

NP. I don't really see how you're missing this, but it was very clear to me, reading this, that no one was claiming that gender pay disparity didn't exist.

A poster says brought up sentencing disparity, and another poster says "It's also not a matter of law or policy, so his argument is moot even though it's very inaccurate." It's to that comment that the response is "Just like the gender pay disparity right?" The statement is if the sentencing disparity is "not a matter of law or policy" then neither is the gender pay disparity. If accepts that the gender pay disparity exists, just points out that it's not a matter of law or policy. The exchange doesn't make any sense if the poster doesn't believe in the gender pay disparity.

I think you're probably too dug in at this point to admit that you misread, but you did.

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Anonymous wrote:True feminism has been a positive.
The " feminism" of the last decade is a negative.

What do you mean by "the feminism of the last decade"?

The everything is mens fault brand of feminism,

Come back when your gripes make into policy or law.

Like men getting longer sentences for committing the same crimes?

You should do some research. Men often get substantially lighter sentences for assaulting and killing women than women get for killing their abusers.

DP and the one he initially responded to. It's also not a matter of law or policy, so his argument is moot even though it's very inaccurate.

Just like the gender pay disparity right?

Well luckily, we have data on that as well. And agian, you're full of shit.

IT is telling, though that when you're called out on your BS you just pivot to a different subject. Why is that?

As a matter of law and policy? Let's see it. Woosh, the point went right over your head. You want different standards on what constitutes "law and policy" for different disparities. A literal sentencing disparity does not count as "law and policy" in your world. Why? Because you're a biased hypocrite.

Oh FFS. One, you can't stay on the subject. Two, MEN created the pay disparity. They simply didn't feel that women needed to earn as much since their husbands were the main providers for their family. Nothing imagined or made up about it. We have decades of data. Men like you still moan about the fact that women now demand to be paid the same as their male counterparts. But sure, minimum wage is the same for both genders as a matter of law. Thank a fellow Democrat for that.

Secondly, you keep harping on sentencing disparities, but you're just wrong. It DOES NOT HAPPEN. It's not hypocritical to tell you your statement is not supported by facts. SOOOOO if it's not TRUE in either law or policy OR practice, it's time for you to drop your ignorant argument.

You can't just declare things, goofy. I posted a source, you posted your fee fees.

Oh I see your source now....bahahahahahahhaa

You posted one working paper and think you've uncovered the holy grail. Silly really.

Ah right, let's go with your fee fees.

No idea what fees fees are. Perhaps more made-up stuff from you.

I means you hand wave away things that are inconvenient for whatever little biased narrative you've built in your head.

if you were succesful in proving your point, it wouldn't be an issue. but you latched on to that one working paper like it's some kind of authority and mock decades of data that prove you wrong. But like any good misogynist, you're not swayed by facts.

More hand waving. Show the “data”.

It's like having to prove to a monkey that the Earth is not flat.

Translation: my frantic google searching came up empty .

This isn't even disputed. https://www.google.com/search?q=pay+disparity+between+men+and+women&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1179US1179&oq=pay+dispa&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgFEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgBEAAYgAQyBggCEEUYOTIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABNIBCDUxNjJqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Hopefully, you'll be able to read the big words in the links provided.

This is about the sentencing disparity, doofus. Holy crap, you are slow.

Oh so you didn't claim that the pay gap doesn't exist? So you agree on that?????

Also, when you make the claim, YOU are the one who needs to support it. I'm not doing your work for you.

But hey, when you're losing an argument, the best strategy is to call the other person slow. That makes you look super credible.

Goodness, you are slow and dishonest. Rebutting claims that have not been made and making yourself look like a fool. Enjoy trolling, clown.

It's literally in this thread. This is what you said, "Just like the gender pay disparity right?"

I see now that you're incapable of actually debating and the only thing you have going for you are childish personal insults. Bye now!

Wooosh lol. Slow down, follow the thread and read better. There is no claim that the gender pay disparity does not exist. You just like fighting straw men and deflecting.

Trying to weasel your way out of handwaving away evidence for the sentencing disparity and then provides google search results as "authority" but poo poos anything else. Truly clown behavior lol.

So you didn't make the claim that pay disparity doesn't exist? What did you mean by that post then?

I'm dying to know.

Again, it's your job to provide proof for the claims you're making. Not mine. Come back when you can do that.

FYI, coming back with more personal insults instead of facts just makes you look unintelligent and doesn't bolster your argument.

It's in the thread. Go back and read. I provided evidence, and you hand waived it away (without even bothering to counter anything presented in it) and then provided google search as sufficient evidence for whatever you thought I was arguing lol. You're a hypocrite and apply different standards as you see fit to suit your agenda. You are not a good faith interlocutor. You are a deflector.

I did look at that one link you provided to a working paper (not a study with conclusive evidence BTW). Is that all you got? A singular working paper?

A Google search provided a half a dozen credible sources (such as the Bureau of Labor and Statistics), which you didn't bother reading, but that's on you.

You're deflecting again. And handwaving. And arguing against strawmen. It's all you do.

So provide the sources then? That's all you have to do.

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Anonymous wrote:True feminism has been a positive.
The " feminism" of the last decade is a negative.

What do you mean by "the feminism of the last decade"?

The everything is mens fault brand of feminism,

Come back when your gripes make into policy or law.

Like men getting longer sentences for committing the same crimes?

You should do some research. Men often get substantially lighter sentences for assaulting and killing women than women get for killing their abusers.

DP and the one he initially responded to. It's also not a matter of law or policy, so his argument is moot even though it's very inaccurate.

Just like the gender pay disparity right?

Well luckily, we have data on that as well. And agian, you're full of shit.

IT is telling, though that when you're called out on your BS you just pivot to a different subject. Why is that?

As a matter of law and policy? Let's see it. Woosh, the point went right over your head. You want different standards on what constitutes "law and policy" for different disparities. A literal sentencing disparity does not count as "law and policy" in your world. Why? Because you're a biased hypocrite.

Oh FFS. One, you can't stay on the subject. Two, MEN created the pay disparity. They simply didn't feel that women needed to earn as much since their husbands were the main providers for their family. Nothing imagined or made up about it. We have decades of data. Men like you still moan about the fact that women now demand to be paid the same as their male counterparts. But sure, minimum wage is the same for both genders as a matter of law. Thank a fellow Democrat for that.

Secondly, you keep harping on sentencing disparities, but you're just wrong. It DOES NOT HAPPEN. It's not hypocritical to tell you your statement is not supported by facts. SOOOOO if it's not TRUE in either law or policy OR practice, it's time for you to drop your ignorant argument.

You can't just declare things, goofy. I posted a source, you posted your fee fees.

Oh I see your source now....bahahahahahahhaa

You posted one working paper and think you've uncovered the holy grail. Silly really.

Ah right, let's go with your fee fees.

No idea what fees fees are. Perhaps more made-up stuff from you.

I means you hand wave away things that are inconvenient for whatever little biased narrative you've built in your head.

if you were succesful in proving your point, it wouldn't be an issue. but you latched on to that one working paper like it's some kind of authority and mock decades of data that prove you wrong. But like any good misogynist, you're not swayed by facts.

More hand waving. Show the “data”.

It's like having to prove to a monkey that the Earth is not flat.

Translation: my frantic google searching came up empty .

This isn't even disputed. https://www.google.com/search?q=pay+disparity+between+men+and+women&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1179US1179&oq=pay+dispa&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgFEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgBEAAYgAQyBggCEEUYOTIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABNIBCDUxNjJqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Hopefully, you'll be able to read the big words in the links provided.

This is about the sentencing disparity, doofus. Holy crap, you are slow.

Oh so you didn't claim that the pay gap doesn't exist? So you agree on that?????

Also, when you make the claim, YOU are the one who needs to support it. I'm not doing your work for you.

But hey, when you're losing an argument, the best strategy is to call the other person slow. That makes you look super credible.

Goodness, you are slow and dishonest. Rebutting claims that have not been made and making yourself look like a fool. Enjoy trolling, clown.

It's literally in this thread. This is what you said, "Just like the gender pay disparity right?"

I see now that you're incapable of actually debating and the only thing you have going for you are childish personal insults. Bye now!

Wooosh lol. Slow down, follow the thread and read better. There is no claim that the gender pay disparity does not exist. You just like fighting straw men and deflecting.

Trying to weasel your way out of handwaving away evidence for the sentencing disparity and then provides google search results as "authority" but poo poos anything else. Truly clown behavior lol.

So you didn't make the claim that pay disparity doesn't exist? What did you mean by that post then?

I'm dying to know.

Again, it's your job to provide proof for the claims you're making. Not mine. Come back when you can do that.

FYI, coming back with more personal insults instead of facts just makes you look unintelligent and doesn't bolster your argument.

NP. I don't really see how you're missing this, but it was very clear to me, reading this, that no one was claiming that gender pay disparity didn't exist.

A poster says brought up sentencing disparity, and another poster says "It's also not a matter of law or policy, so his argument is moot even though it's very inaccurate." It's to that comment that the response is "Just like the gender pay disparity right?" The statement is if the sentencing disparity is "not a matter of law or policy" then neither is the gender pay disparity. If accepts that the gender pay disparity exists, just points out that it's not a matter of law or policy. The exchange doesn't make any sense if the poster doesn't believe in the gender pay disparity.

I think you're probably too dug in at this point to admit that you misread, but you did.

Well you'd be very wrong then. If he had pointed that out instead of JUST calling me names, it would be a different conversation. I did misread that and I'm happy to admit it. However, he just keeps coming back with more insults instead of further explaining his position.

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Anonymous wrote:True feminism has been a positive.
The " feminism" of the last decade is a negative.

What do you mean by "the feminism of the last decade"?

The everything is mens fault brand of feminism,

Come back when your gripes make into policy or law.

Like men getting longer sentences for committing the same crimes?

You should do some research. Men often get substantially lighter sentences for assaulting and killing women than women get for killing their abusers.

DP and the one he initially responded to. It's also not a matter of law or policy, so his argument is moot even though it's very inaccurate.

Just like the gender pay disparity right?

Well luckily, we have data on that as well. And agian, you're full of shit.

IT is telling, though that when you're called out on your BS you just pivot to a different subject. Why is that?

As a matter of law and policy? Let's see it. Woosh, the point went right over your head. You want different standards on what constitutes "law and policy" for different disparities. A literal sentencing disparity does not count as "law and policy" in your world. Why? Because you're a biased hypocrite.

Oh FFS. One, you can't stay on the subject. Two, MEN created the pay disparity. They simply didn't feel that women needed to earn as much since their husbands were the main providers for their family. Nothing imagined or made up about it. We have decades of data. Men like you still moan about the fact that women now demand to be paid the same as their male counterparts. But sure, minimum wage is the same for both genders as a matter of law. Thank a fellow Democrat for that.

Secondly, you keep harping on sentencing disparities, but you're just wrong. It DOES NOT HAPPEN. It's not hypocritical to tell you your statement is not supported by facts. SOOOOO if it's not TRUE in either law or policy OR practice, it's time for you to drop your ignorant argument.

You can't just declare things, goofy. I posted a source, you posted your fee fees.

Oh I see your source now....bahahahahahahhaa

You posted one working paper and think you've uncovered the holy grail. Silly really.

Ah right, let's go with your fee fees.

No idea what fees fees are. Perhaps more made-up stuff from you.

I means you hand wave away things that are inconvenient for whatever little biased narrative you've built in your head.

if you were succesful in proving your point, it wouldn't be an issue. but you latched on to that one working paper like it's some kind of authority and mock decades of data that prove you wrong. But like any good misogynist, you're not swayed by facts.

More hand waving. Show the “data”.

It's like having to prove to a monkey that the Earth is not flat.

Translation: my frantic google searching came up empty .

This isn't even disputed. https://www.google.com/search?q=pay+disparity+between+men+and+women&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1179US1179&oq=pay+dispa&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgFEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgBEAAYgAQyBggCEEUYOTIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABNIBCDUxNjJqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Hopefully, you'll be able to read the big words in the links provided.

This is about the sentencing disparity, doofus. Holy crap, you are slow.

Oh so you didn't claim that the pay gap doesn't exist? So you agree on that?????

Also, when you make the claim, YOU are the one who needs to support it. I'm not doing your work for you.

But hey, when you're losing an argument, the best strategy is to call the other person slow. That makes you look super credible.

Goodness, you are slow and dishonest. Rebutting claims that have not been made and making yourself look like a fool. Enjoy trolling, clown.

It's literally in this thread. This is what you said, "Just like the gender pay disparity right?"

I see now that you're incapable of actually debating and the only thing you have going for you are childish personal insults. Bye now!

Wooosh lol. Slow down, follow the thread and read better. There is no claim that the gender pay disparity does not exist. You just like fighting straw men and deflecting.

Trying to weasel your way out of handwaving away evidence for the sentencing disparity and then provides google search results as "authority" but poo poos anything else. Truly clown behavior lol.

So you didn't make the claim that pay disparity doesn't exist? What did you mean by that post then?

I'm dying to know.

Again, it's your job to provide proof for the claims you're making. Not mine. Come back when you can do that.

FYI, coming back with more personal insults instead of facts just makes you look unintelligent and doesn't bolster your argument.

It's in the thread. Go back and read. I provided evidence, and you hand waived it away (without even bothering to counter anything presented in it) and then provided google search as sufficient evidence for whatever you thought I was arguing lol. You're a hypocrite and apply different standards as you see fit to suit your agenda. You are not a good faith interlocutor. You are a deflector.

I did look at that one link you provided to a working paper (not a study with conclusive evidence BTW). Is that all you got? A singular working paper?

A Google search provided a half a dozen credible sources (such as the Bureau of Labor and Statistics), which you didn't bother reading, but that's on you.

You're deflecting again. And handwaving. And arguing against strawmen. It's all you do.

So provide the sources then? That's all you have to do.

Just google it; since that is what suffices as sufficient for you.

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Anonymous wrote:True feminism has been a positive.
The " feminism" of the last decade is a negative.

What do you mean by "the feminism of the last decade"?

The everything is mens fault brand of feminism,

Come back when your gripes make into policy or law.

Like men getting longer sentences for committing the same crimes?

You should do some research. Men often get substantially lighter sentences for assaulting and killing women than women get for killing their abusers.

DP and the one he initially responded to. It's also not a matter of law or policy, so his argument is moot even though it's very inaccurate.

Just like the gender pay disparity right?

Well luckily, we have data on that as well. And agian, you're full of shit.

IT is telling, though that when you're called out on your BS you just pivot to a different subject. Why is that?

As a matter of law and policy? Let's see it. Woosh, the point went right over your head. You want different standards on what constitutes "law and policy" for different disparities. A literal sentencing disparity does not count as "law and policy" in your world. Why? Because you're a biased hypocrite.

Oh FFS. One, you can't stay on the subject. Two, MEN created the pay disparity. They simply didn't feel that women needed to earn as much since their husbands were the main providers for their family. Nothing imagined or made up about it. We have decades of data. Men like you still moan about the fact that women now demand to be paid the same as their male counterparts. But sure, minimum wage is the same for both genders as a matter of law. Thank a fellow Democrat for that.

Secondly, you keep harping on sentencing disparities, but you're just wrong. It DOES NOT HAPPEN. It's not hypocritical to tell you your statement is not supported by facts. SOOOOO if it's not TRUE in either law or policy OR practice, it's time for you to drop your ignorant argument.

You can't just declare things, goofy. I posted a source, you posted your fee fees.

Oh I see your source now....bahahahahahahhaa

You posted one working paper and think you've uncovered the holy grail. Silly really.

Ah right, let's go with your fee fees.

No idea what fees fees are. Perhaps more made-up stuff from you.

I means you hand wave away things that are inconvenient for whatever little biased narrative you've built in your head.

if you were succesful in proving your point, it wouldn't be an issue. but you latched on to that one working paper like it's some kind of authority and mock decades of data that prove you wrong. But like any good misogynist, you're not swayed by facts.

More hand waving. Show the “data”.

It's like having to prove to a monkey that the Earth is not flat.

Translation: my frantic google searching came up empty .

This isn't even disputed. https://www.google.com/search?q=pay+disparity+between+men+and+women&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1179US1179&oq=pay+dispa&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgFEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgBEAAYgAQyBggCEEUYOTIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABNIBCDUxNjJqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Hopefully, you'll be able to read the big words in the links provided.

This is about the sentencing disparity, doofus. Holy crap, you are slow.

Oh so you didn't claim that the pay gap doesn't exist? So you agree on that?????

Also, when you make the claim, YOU are the one who needs to support it. I'm not doing your work for you.

But hey, when you're losing an argument, the best strategy is to call the other person slow. That makes you look super credible.

Goodness, you are slow and dishonest. Rebutting claims that have not been made and making yourself look like a fool. Enjoy trolling, clown.

It's literally in this thread. This is what you said, "Just like the gender pay disparity right?"

I see now that you're incapable of actually debating and the only thing you have going for you are childish personal insults. Bye now!

Wooosh lol. Slow down, follow the thread and read better. There is no claim that the gender pay disparity does not exist. You just like fighting straw men and deflecting.

Trying to weasel your way out of handwaving away evidence for the sentencing disparity and then provides google search results as "authority" but poo poos anything else. Truly clown behavior lol.

So you didn't make the claim that pay disparity doesn't exist? What did you mean by that post then?

I'm dying to know.

Again, it's your job to provide proof for the claims you're making. Not mine. Come back when you can do that.

FYI, coming back with more personal insults instead of facts just makes you look unintelligent and doesn't bolster your argument.

It's in the thread. Go back and read. I provided evidence, and you hand waived it away (without even bothering to counter anything presented in it) and then provided google search as sufficient evidence for whatever you thought I was arguing lol. You're a hypocrite and apply different standards as you see fit to suit your agenda. You are not a good faith interlocutor. You are a deflector.

I did look at that one link you provided to a working paper (not a study with conclusive evidence BTW). Is that all you got? A singular working paper?

A Google search provided a half a dozen credible sources (such as the Bureau of Labor and Statistics), which you didn't bother reading, but that's on you.

You're deflecting again. And handwaving. And arguing against strawmen. It's all you do.

So provide the sources then? That's all you have to do.

Just google it; since that is what suffices as sufficient for you.

How about you google it and prove the point you're making? Why should i do your work for you? I'd be happy with a google search result link like I provided, if you can come up with one.

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Anonymous wrote:True feminism has been a positive.
The " feminism" of the last decade is a negative.

What do you mean by "the feminism of the last decade"?

The everything is mens fault brand of feminism,

Come back when your gripes make into policy or law.

Like men getting longer sentences for committing the same crimes?

You should do some research. Men often get substantially lighter sentences for assaulting and killing women than women get for killing their abusers.

DP and the one he initially responded to. It's also not a matter of law or policy, so his argument is moot even though it's very inaccurate.

Just like the gender pay disparity right?

Well luckily, we have data on that as well. And agian, you're full of shit.

IT is telling, though that when you're called out on your BS you just pivot to a different subject. Why is that?

As a matter of law and policy? Let's see it. Woosh, the point went right over your head. You want different standards on what constitutes "law and policy" for different disparities. A literal sentencing disparity does not count as "law and policy" in your world. Why? Because you're a biased hypocrite.

Oh FFS. One, you can't stay on the subject. Two, MEN created the pay disparity. They simply didn't feel that women needed to earn as much since their husbands were the main providers for their family. Nothing imagined or made up about it. We have decades of data. Men like you still moan about the fact that women now demand to be paid the same as their male counterparts. But sure, minimum wage is the same for both genders as a matter of law. Thank a fellow Democrat for that.

Secondly, you keep harping on sentencing disparities, but you're just wrong. It DOES NOT HAPPEN. It's not hypocritical to tell you your statement is not supported by facts. SOOOOO if it's not TRUE in either law or policy OR practice, it's time for you to drop your ignorant argument.

You can't just declare things, goofy. I posted a source, you posted your fee fees.

Oh I see your source now....bahahahahahahhaa

You posted one working paper and think you've uncovered the holy grail. Silly really.

Ah right, let's go with your fee fees.

No idea what fees fees are. Perhaps more made-up stuff from you.

I means you hand wave away things that are inconvenient for whatever little biased narrative you've built in your head.

if you were succesful in proving your point, it wouldn't be an issue. but you latched on to that one working paper like it's some kind of authority and mock decades of data that prove you wrong. But like any good misogynist, you're not swayed by facts.

More hand waving. Show the “data”.

It's like having to prove to a monkey that the Earth is not flat.

Translation: my frantic google searching came up empty .

This isn't even disputed. https://www.google.com/search?q=pay+disparity+between+men+and+women&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1179US1179&oq=pay+dispa&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgFEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgBEAAYgAQyBggCEEUYOTIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABNIBCDUxNjJqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Hopefully, you'll be able to read the big words in the links provided.

This is about the sentencing disparity, doofus. Holy crap, you are slow.

Oh so you didn't claim that the pay gap doesn't exist? So you agree on that?????

Also, when you make the claim, YOU are the one who needs to support it. I'm not doing your work for you.

But hey, when you're losing an argument, the best strategy is to call the other person slow. That makes you look super credible.

Goodness, you are slow and dishonest. Rebutting claims that have not been made and making yourself look like a fool. Enjoy trolling, clown.

It's literally in this thread. This is what you said, "Just like the gender pay disparity right?"

I see now that you're incapable of actually debating and the only thing you have going for you are childish personal insults. Bye now!

Wooosh lol. Slow down, follow the thread and read better. There is no claim that the gender pay disparity does not exist. You just like fighting straw men and deflecting.

Trying to weasel your way out of handwaving away evidence for the sentencing disparity and then provides google search results as "authority" but poo poos anything else. Truly clown behavior lol.

So you didn't make the claim that pay disparity doesn't exist? What did you mean by that post then?

I'm dying to know.

Again, it's your job to provide proof for the claims you're making. Not mine. Come back when you can do that.

FYI, coming back with more personal insults instead of facts just makes you look unintelligent and doesn't bolster your argument.

It's in the thread. Go back and read. I provided evidence, and you hand waived it away (without even bothering to counter anything presented in it) and then provided google search as sufficient evidence for whatever you thought I was arguing lol. You're a hypocrite and apply different standards as you see fit to suit your agenda. You are not a good faith interlocutor. You are a deflector.

I did look at that one link you provided to a working paper (not a study with conclusive evidence BTW). Is that all you got? A singular working paper?

A Google search provided a half a dozen credible sources (such as the Bureau of Labor and Statistics), which you didn't bother reading, but that's on you.

You're deflecting again. And handwaving. And arguing against strawmen. It's all you do.

So provide the sources then? That's all you have to do.

Just google it; since that is what suffices as sufficient for you.

How about you google it and prove the point you're making? Why should i do your work for you? I'd be happy with a google search result link like I provided, if you can come up with one.

I've done more than enough for you. You still haven't addressed any actual data btw. If you can't manage to type gender sentencing disparity into google, you have more problems than I thought.

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Anonymous wrote:True feminism has been a positive.
The " feminism" of the last decade is a negative.

What do you mean by "the feminism of the last decade"?

The everything is mens fault brand of feminism,

Come back when your gripes make into policy or law.

Like men getting longer sentences for committing the same crimes?

You should do some research. Men often get substantially lighter sentences for assaulting and killing women than women get for killing their abusers.

DP and the one he initially responded to. It's also not a matter of law or policy, so his argument is moot even though it's very inaccurate.

Just like the gender pay disparity right?

Well luckily, we have data on that as well. And agian, you're full of shit.

IT is telling, though that when you're called out on your BS you just pivot to a different subject. Why is that?

As a matter of law and policy? Let's see it. Woosh, the point went right over your head. You want different standards on what constitutes "law and policy" for different disparities. A literal sentencing disparity does not count as "law and policy" in your world. Why? Because you're a biased hypocrite.

Oh FFS. One, you can't stay on the subject. Two, MEN created the pay disparity. They simply didn't feel that women needed to earn as much since their husbands were the main providers for their family. Nothing imagined or made up about it. We have decades of data. Men like you still moan about the fact that women now demand to be paid the same as their male counterparts. But sure, minimum wage is the same for both genders as a matter of law. Thank a fellow Democrat for that.

Secondly, you keep harping on sentencing disparities, but you're just wrong. It DOES NOT HAPPEN. It's not hypocritical to tell you your statement is not supported by facts. SOOOOO if it's not TRUE in either law or policy OR practice, it's time for you to drop your ignorant argument.

You can't just declare things, goofy. I posted a source, you posted your fee fees.

Oh I see your source now....bahahahahahahhaa

You posted one working paper and think you've uncovered the holy grail. Silly really.

Ah right, let's go with your fee fees.

No idea what fees fees are. Perhaps more made-up stuff from you.

I means you hand wave away things that are inconvenient for whatever little biased narrative you've built in your head.

if you were succesful in proving your point, it wouldn't be an issue. but you latched on to that one working paper like it's some kind of authority and mock decades of data that prove you wrong. But like any good misogynist, you're not swayed by facts.

More hand waving. Show the “data”.

It's like having to prove to a monkey that the Earth is not flat.

Translation: my frantic google searching came up empty .

This isn't even disputed. https://www.google.com/search?q=pay+disparity+between+men+and+women&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1179US1179&oq=pay+dispa&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgFEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgBEAAYgAQyBggCEEUYOTIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABNIBCDUxNjJqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Hopefully, you'll be able to read the big words in the links provided.

This is about the sentencing disparity, doofus. Holy crap, you are slow.

Oh so you didn't claim that the pay gap doesn't exist? So you agree on that?????

Also, when you make the claim, YOU are the one who needs to support it. I'm not doing your work for you.

But hey, when you're losing an argument, the best strategy is to call the other person slow. That makes you look super credible.

Goodness, you are slow and dishonest. Rebutting claims that have not been made and making yourself look like a fool. Enjoy trolling, clown.

It's literally in this thread. This is what you said, "Just like the gender pay disparity right?"

I see now that you're incapable of actually debating and the only thing you have going for you are childish personal insults. Bye now!

Wooosh lol. Slow down, follow the thread and read better. There is no claim that the gender pay disparity does not exist. You just like fighting straw men and deflecting.

Trying to weasel your way out of handwaving away evidence for the sentencing disparity and then provides google search results as "authority" but poo poos anything else. Truly clown behavior lol.

So you didn't make the claim that pay disparity doesn't exist? What did you mean by that post then?

I'm dying to know.

Again, it's your job to provide proof for the claims you're making. Not mine. Come back when you can do that.

FYI, coming back with more personal insults instead of facts just makes you look unintelligent and doesn't bolster your argument.

It's in the thread. Go back and read. I provided evidence, and you hand waived it away (without even bothering to counter anything presented in it) and then provided google search as sufficient evidence for whatever you thought I was arguing lol. You're a hypocrite and apply different standards as you see fit to suit your agenda. You are not a good faith interlocutor. You are a deflector.

I did look at that one link you provided to a working paper (not a study with conclusive evidence BTW). Is that all you got? A singular working paper?

A Google search provided a half a dozen credible sources (such as the Bureau of Labor and Statistics), which you didn't bother reading, but that's on you.

You're deflecting again. And handwaving. And arguing against strawmen. It's all you do.

So provide the sources then? That's all you have to do.

Just google it; since that is what suffices as sufficient for you.

How about you google it and prove the point you're making? Why should i do your work for you? I'd be happy with a google search result link like I provided, if you can come up with one.

I've done more than enough for you. You still haven't addressed any actual data btw. If you can't manage to type gender sentencing disparity into google, you have more problems than I thought.

OK I see that you can't/won't provide any actual proof for the point you attempted to make, so I'm done responding. Plus you're just boring me at this point.

A person who doesn't understand that he is in charge of providing evidence for the claim he made is not a person who can understand the evidence if there is any.

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What do you mean by "the feminism of the last decade"?

The everything is mens fault brand of feminism,

Come back when your gripes make into policy or law.

Like men getting longer sentences for committing the same crimes?

You should do some research. Men often get substantially lighter sentences for assaulting and killing women than women get for killing their abusers.

DP and the one he initially responded to. It's also not a matter of law or policy, so his argument is moot even though it's very inaccurate.

Just like the gender pay disparity right?

Well luckily, we have data on that as well. And agian, you're full of shit.

IT is telling, though that when you're called out on your BS you just pivot to a different subject. Why is that?

As a matter of law and policy? Let's see it. Woosh, the point went right over your head. You want different standards on what constitutes "law and policy" for different disparities. A literal sentencing disparity does not count as "law and policy" in your world. Why? Because you're a biased hypocrite.

Oh FFS. One, you can't stay on the subject. Two, MEN created the pay disparity. They simply didn't feel that women needed to earn as much since their husbands were the main providers for their family. Nothing imagined or made up about it. We have decades of data. Men like you still moan about the fact that women now demand to be paid the same as their male counterparts. But sure, minimum wage is the same for both genders as a matter of law. Thank a fellow Democrat for that.

Secondly, you keep harping on sentencing disparities, but you're just wrong. It DOES NOT HAPPEN. It's not hypocritical to tell you your statement is not supported by facts. SOOOOO if it's not TRUE in either law or policy OR practice, it's time for you to drop your ignorant argument.

You can't just declare things, goofy. I posted a source, you posted your fee fees.

Oh I see your source now....bahahahahahahhaa

You posted one working paper and think you've uncovered the holy grail. Silly really.

Ah right, let's go with your fee fees.

No idea what fees fees are. Perhaps more made-up stuff from you.

I means you hand wave away things that are inconvenient for whatever little biased narrative you've built in your head.

if you were succesful in proving your point, it wouldn't be an issue. but you latched on to that one working paper like it's some kind of authority and mock decades of data that prove you wrong. But like any good misogynist, you're not swayed by facts.

More hand waving. Show the “data”.

It's like having to prove to a monkey that the Earth is not flat.

Translation: my frantic google searching came up empty .

This isn't even disputed. https://www.google.com/search?q=pay+disparity+between+men+and+women&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS1179US1179&oq=pay+dispa&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqBwgFEAAYgAQyBwgAEAAYgAQyBwgBEAAYgAQyBggCEEUYOTIHCAMQABiABDIHCAQQABiABDIHCAUQABiABDIHCAYQABiABDIHCAcQABiABDIHCAgQABiABDIHCAkQABiABNIBCDUxNjJqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Hopefully, you'll be able to read the big words in the links provided.

This is about the sentencing disparity, doofus. Holy crap, you are slow.

Oh so you didn't claim that the pay gap doesn't exist? So you agree on that?????

Also, when you make the claim, YOU are the one who needs to support it. I'm not doing your work for you.

But hey, when you're losing an argument, the best strategy is to call the other person slow. That makes you look super credible.

Goodness, you are slow and dishonest. Rebutting claims that have not been made and making yourself look like a fool. Enjoy trolling, clown.

It's literally in this thread. This is what you said, "Just like the gender pay disparity right?"

I see now that you're incapable of actually debating and the only thing you have going for you are childish personal insults. Bye now!

Wooosh lol. Slow down, follow the thread and read better. There is no claim that the gender pay disparity does not exist. You just like fighting straw men and deflecting.

Trying to weasel your way out of handwaving away evidence for the sentencing disparity and then provides google search results as "authority" but poo poos anything else. Truly clown behavior lol.

So you didn't make the claim that pay disparity doesn't exist? What did you mean by that post then?

I'm dying to know.

Again, it's your job to provide proof for the claims you're making. Not mine. Come back when you can do that.

FYI, coming back with more personal insults instead of facts just makes you look unintelligent and doesn't bolster your argument.

It's in the thread. Go back and read. I provided evidence, and you hand waived it away (without even bothering to counter anything presented in it) and then provided google search as sufficient evidence for whatever you thought I was arguing lol. You're a hypocrite and apply different standards as you see fit to suit your agenda. You are not a good faith interlocutor. You are a deflector.

I did look at that one link you provided to a working paper (not a study with conclusive evidence BTW). Is that all you got? A singular working paper?

A Google search provided a half a dozen credible sources (such as the Bureau of Labor and Statistics), which you didn't bother reading, but that's on you.

You're deflecting again. And handwaving. And arguing against strawmen. It's all you do.

So provide the sources then? That's all you have to do.

Just google it; since that is what suffices as sufficient for you.

How about you google it and prove the point you're making? Why should i do your work for you? I'd be happy with a google search result link like I provided, if you can come up with one.

I've done more than enough for you. You still haven't addressed any actual data btw. If you can't manage to type gender sentencing disparity into google, you have more problems than I thought.

OK I see that you can't/won't provide any actual proof for the point you attempted to make, so I'm done responding. Plus you're just boring me at this point.

A person who doesn't understand that he is in charge of providing evidence for the claim he made is not a person who can understand the evidence if there is any.

Read more carefully next time before spouting off. Have a great day!

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Anonymous wrote:"Does treating women with the same respect we give men provide a benefit to society?"

Anyone who says no is lacking *quite* a few brain cells.

I've been saying that for pages and pages. I can't believe this nonsense is still being "discussed."

But the question wasn't about society or in general it was specific to relationships.

"Does treating women with the same respect we give to men benefit relationships?"

How can you say no? How can you actually say that respecting women LESS is better in relationships?

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Anonymous wrote:"Does treating women with the same respect we give men provide a benefit to society?"

Anyone who says no is lacking *quite* a few brain cells.

I've been saying that for pages and pages. I can't believe this nonsense is still being "discussed."

But the question wasn't about society or in general it was specific to relationships.

"Does treating women with the same respect we give to men benefit relationships?"

How can you say no? How can you actually say that respecting women LESS is better in relationships?

If fewer people engage in relationships such as marriage would we say that's better? Do we want more of them or fewer? How can something be good for relationships if people are rejecting relationships more often?