Are you offended when someone says they “didnt want someone else to raise my kids”?

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Anonymous wrote:It's an insensitive thing to say because as women we are all supposed to be empathetic to the fact that no matter what women do regarding work and motherhood someone is going to judge us and we're going to feel guilty.

But also I think people say this sometimes because they are just being honest and it's how they feel. Just like I think women who go back to work actually sometimes do it because they are bored out of their minds at home with babies and want to "use their brains." I also know women who have said that they went back to work because they believe their kids are better off being raised by nannies or caregivers who are "experts" as opposed to a sahm.

All of these things will be hurtful to hear to someone who made a different choice and they are also things people actually think and feel. Women are presented with this impossible choice (if they are fortunate to even have a choice at all which most are not) and there is no answer that will ever be right for everyone so we all do this dance with each other about our choices and we offend each other constantly because there's no way for us to all validate each other and ourselves at the same time unless we all make the same choice.

But we cannot all make the same choice because we are different people with different kids and different professions and different finances and different partners and different resources.

I just try to remember all that whenever I talk to other women about this stuff and when they say things that can be viewed as an insult to my choices. They aren't really talking about me. It's just about them. And that's fine.


But why do we need to be validating our own choices to other people? DH and I made the decisions right for our family (career choices, number of kids, where to live, what schools to send them to, etc.) based on our own personal life circumstances and priorities. I am under no illusion that our choices are the “best ever” or even “better” than what other families have chosen. But I am secure we’ve made decisions that make our family happy.

I can have a conversation with another parent who made different choices than me without needing to justify/explain things in a way that belittle their choices. For instance I have a friend who is a SAHM with a big law DH. When talking to her I 100% understand why it would be logistically a nightmare for her to try to be the primary parent for 3 kids and work since he is gone long hours. Whereas I work FT but my DH also has a super flexible remote job and can help with a lot of the morning routine, shuttling kids around, etc. We can both discuss our lives and the situational decisions we’ve made without making generalized conclusions that our choice is better than the other.

I feel sorry for those who lack the ability to understand their life choices are not necessarily the best choices for others and that we do not need validate ourselves at the expense of putting down others.

This is how most well adjusted people function. The rest don't see how classless they come off putting others down and getting snippy about the decisions of others. I do think there are also genuinely unaware people who are hyper focused on their own reasons (use my brain, raise my kids) that they say it out loud without meaning to imply insult or even that someone else isn't doing that. Honestly, most of us aren't so blatant but likely don't realize all the ways we've insulted others day to day. Still, some people do mean offense and it usually doesn't sting unless you are hearing a chorus of it. Funny enough, I've been hearing one resounding sentiment but from experience on this site, other women get the flip side advised to them by their family so I can understand their defensiveness.



You're almost there. When people talk about their own decisions, they are not putting others down. Others are interpreting other people's statements as if they are reflections upon themselves when other people are just talking about themselves. It is people's insecurity and self-absorption that causes people to be offended by other people's statements about their own situations. People are not classless when they talk about their own situation. People are insecure when they are offended when other people talk about their situation.

It isn't about you.


Huh? That is absolutely not true.

My kids go to private school. I can either state that as a fact, or I can say that we sent them to private school because we wouldn't have sent them to the public schools for which we are zoned. Do you really think both statements are the same? In one I am simply stating what we chose. In another I am not only stating what we chose but also denigrating those who made a different choice.

Saying you don't work because you don't want someone else to raise your kids is clearly saying that you think people who use nannies or daycares don't raise their children.


So the problem isn’t thinking it, it’s just saying it, right? Because the truth is you sent your kids to private for a reason, it’s not like you and your husband did rock paper scissors to decide.

So you won’t SAY that the public schools aren’t good enough for your kids and you feel they’d get a subpar education there (because of course it’s rude to say to the public school parents) but that doesn’t change the fact that you believe it to be true.

[/b] There is far too much thought policing and putting words in others’ mouths going on in this thread, though.


JFC. [b]Sharing your unfiltered thoughts
does not make you mature. It makes you socially incompetent.

I have all sorts of beliefs about things I think are better than others, but I don’t need to share these beliefs with the people who made different choices because a) I realize my opinion is not the gospel, b) I understand people are making decisions based upon different opportunities and priorities than me, and c) there is zero benefit to anyone in insulting others’ choices.

I’m convinced some of you on this board don’t actually know how to interact with other people in real life.


That’s what discussing things *honestly* entails. “Filtering” your thoughts during a discussion to ensure you don’t say anything that the other person might not like or not agree with is NOT an honest conversation.

So I repeat, either one is mature enough and secure enough to discuss things like private school and childcare honestly, or not.
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Anonymous wrote:nothing offends me. it is easier that way.


This thread is full of people who are choosing to be offended. Life is so much better once you realize that to take offense is a choice:
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The only time that phrase has really annoyed me was when a SAHM who got scammed by an MLM was using it to try to grow their "business". They would write these posts trying to recruit other moms by saying things like "I love being my own boss and being able to raise my own kids!" then follow up with personal recruiting messages. You really think I want to join whatever it is you're doing after you just implied I don't raise my own kids? I know they were just sending messages to everyone in their network, not even thinking about different moms' situations... but that's not exactly a winning strategy. So glad the MLM era seems to be ending, for many reasons.
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Anonymous wrote:I only say that in response to people who constantly think they’re the only ones who are busy and imply my life is so relaxing compared to theirs because they work.

But also, it’s the truth. I don’t work because I wanted to raise my kids. PhD scientist here so don’t worry about my brain, it’s doing just fine.


Bum
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Anonymous wrote:nothing offends me. it is easier that way.


This thread is full of people who are choosing to be offended. Life is so much better once you realize that to take offense is a choice:


A few people responded that they were "offended" but the vast majority just said it was rude and showed the speaker as ignorant.
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No, I’m not offended. I work and have childcare and I still feel this way. I’d prefer to be the one at home raising ’my kids but a) I’m not comfortable with the financial trade offs (including a significant reduction in the quality of education we’d be able to access if I didn’t work) and b) most careers, including mine, are difficult to return to after a gap at home caring for children.

Unless you have a very high earning spouse and can stay home without financial sacrifice, the decision about whether to stay home with kids or work and find childcare is a very difficult one.
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You know what I'm going to start saying, "I married rich so that I could stay home with my kids. You could have too. So stop complaining."

It's the truth.
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Anonymous wrote:No, I’m not offended. I work and have childcare and I still feel this way. I’d prefer to be the one at home raising ’my kids but a) I’m not comfortable with the financial trade offs (including a significant reduction in the quality of education we’d be able to access if I didn’t work) and b) most careers, including mine, are difficult to return to after a gap at home caring for children.

Unless you have a very high earning spouse and can stay home without financial sacrifice, the decision about whether to stay home with kids or work and find childcare is a very difficult one.


Same. The choice to stay home full time would have meant giving up my career completely. I didn't get a PhD just to walk away from all of it. I did "mommy track" myself so I have a lot less on my plate than if I had aimed for the stars. But it is not an option in my field to just take off a few years and expect to get any kind of full time job upon return. There are too many highly qualified candidates who kept their foot on the gas pedal.
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Anonymous wrote:You know what I'm going to start saying, "I married rich so that I could stay home with my kids. You could have too. So stop complaining."

It's the truth.


I have a very high earning husband and used to be a SAHM. I work because I like to work. What’s wrong with that?
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Anonymous wrote:You know what I'm going to start saying, "I married rich so that I could stay home with my kids. You could have too. So stop complaining."

It's the truth.


the truth is that I would interpret that statement as profoundly pathetic.
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Anonymous wrote:You know what I'm going to start saying, "I married rich so that I could stay home with my kids. You could have too. So stop complaining."

It's the truth.


I have a very high earning husband and used to be a SAHM. I work because I like to work. What’s wrong with that?


Absolutely nothing, but I bet you don't go around complaining that you wish you could stay home with your kids. Cause, you could if you wanted to. But you don't want to, so you don't complain : )
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Anonymous wrote:You know what I'm going to start saying, "I married rich so that I could stay home with my kids. You could have too. So stop complaining."

It's the truth.


the truth is that I would interpret that statement as profoundly pathetic.


I spend my time exactly as I please and I'm very happy with the choices I've made.

Why do you feel the need to belittle people who have made choice that fulfill them, make them happy, and work for their family?
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So sad that this conversation is still happening in 2024. I raise my kids. My husband raises our kids. I work part time so they had some daycare. If someone thinks that means that I only partially raised my kids that’s on them and I can’t control that. If someone thinks it means I’m lazy that’s on them and I can’t control that. I was privileged to have a lot of options - I could have worked a bigger job, stayed home or the middle road I picked. Now my kids are getting older and I have more influence and seniority. I might be your son or daughter’s boss one day and I’ll do my best to make sure they have options to do what they think is best for their families. That’s my goal for my own kids- giving them options and the knowledge I’ll respect however they decide to handle this.

Also, I have some regrets. In retrospect I wish I pushed for a full year off with each kid. I was too scared to. I can live with the fact that I didn’t do everything perfectly, even for my own family. Pretending we all figured it out perfectly doesn’t help anyone.
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Anonymous wrote:You know what I'm going to start saying, "I married rich so that I could stay home with my kids. You could have too. So stop complaining."

It's the truth.


the truth is that I would interpret that statement as profoundly pathetic.


I spend my time exactly as I please and I'm very happy with the choices I've made.

Why do you feel the need to belittle people who have made choice that fulfill them, make them happy, and work for their family?


Nobody’s belittling someone for the way they spend their time.

People are just commenting on how insecurity must be to make the comment in the subject line or your comment.
Anonymous
"Are you offended when someone says they “didnt want someone else to raise my kids”?"

No. I get offended if I have to take care of your kid, if your kid is disruptive, if your kid needs help from my tax dollars.
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