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Anonymous wrote:Training is important, but playing time is just as important so you can practice what you trained in real game setting. You can’t sacrifice one for the other.

It is very difficult to find a club to provide both good training and adequate playing time for all players to develop though.


Valid points, but as you note finding a club/team that checks all those boxes is challenging. Obviously, we all want our kids to get good training and to play and improve as much as possible, but what that looks like can vary drastically depending on the level of team, cost, and the abilities of the player. If your DD isn't athletically gifted (or really tall), and club volleyball is for fun, fitness, recreation, etc., your expectations should be different than someone who's DD is expecting to be recruited to play D1 volleyball.

As to how to what CHRVA might be able to do to elevate the level of play within the region, that's a tough question. In regions like North Texas there are multiple clubs that are qualifying teams for nationals in the open division every year (clubs like TAV, Drive Nation, Excel, Mad Frog, Skyline, etc). A talented player has multiple choices of clubs that are competing at highest level so they don't need to settle for being the the 14th or 15th girl on the bench to be on a high level team. In CHRVA on the other hand, outside of Metro and Paramount, there are no clubs with a realistic shot of getting an open bid in most years, so a high level player has to choose between possibly not playing as much on a team from one of these clubs or playing on a lower level team. It's not clear right now whether there are any other CHRVA clubs ready to step up to that next level as the number of players increases. There are of course great individual teams at other CHRVA clubs, but there isn't a club that is consistently fielding strong teams at most age groups year after year. Building a club to compete at that level requires assembling the right coaches and facilities and aggressively going after the best players in the off season. Paramount in particular actively recruits high potential players which is one of the reasons they've been able to have success in a relatively short time since the club was started.

The strategy that many clubs seem to be taking right now is to just go to more qualifiers and other travel tournaments and market themselves as being a club that competes against high level teams from across the country. Unfortunately, in many cases that is just costing families a lot of money to travel all over the country to not do particularly well in these tournaments.


I could see MVSA having a chance to become a club that competes at a higher level. Since Paramount is in Virginia and Metro is in DC, MVSA could use the geography to their advantage. Unfortunately, they tend to give preference to their returning players, even those who are not particularly gifted. In these conditions, the top MVSA players get frustrated and try to find a better home (which means Metro in many cases).

Clubs like MVSA and MOCO lose players to Metro and Paramount every year. Blue Ridge is great partly because they are farther away.

Does CHRVA have enough good players for a third open-level team? The region can select all-stars from clubs other than Metro Travel and Paramount, regional first, second, or third teams for example, and see if they can beat Metro Travel or Paramount.
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Wouldn’t having multiple levels per club take care of this? For example, Maryland Juniors has three club levels (Elite, Open, and Regional) with two teams per club. That’s SIX clubs. Can’t Metro create more Travel level teams instead of just one Travel and multiple Regional teams?
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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t having multiple levels per club take care of this? For example, Maryland Juniors has three club levels (Elite, Open, and Regional) with two teams per club. That’s SIX clubs. Can’t Metro create more Travel level teams instead of just one Travel and multiple Regional teams?


Paramount has been the only club that has had regional success with their "2nd" teams. Paramount qualified their 14-2 team last year and their 15-2 team this year. Metro's 2nd teams are local teams that aren't even competitive within the region. Their only focus is their travel teams. There isn't enough talent in the area for their to be three true open level clubs, and to have multiple teams in an age group that have a chance to earn bids takes a lot of work (and a lot of great coaches)
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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t having multiple levels per club take care of this? For example, Maryland Juniors has three club levels (Elite, Open, and Regional) with two teams per club. That’s SIX clubs. Can’t Metro create more Travel level teams instead of just one Travel and multiple Regional teams?

Sure Metro could add another top level team at all (or maybe selected age groups) but I assume they would still run into the same situation as MDJRs. Even though there are two MDJRs "Elite" teams, it's not really a secret that the Black teams are the stronger teams. I have heard unsubstantiated rumblings over the years that Metro might consider adding a second travel teams at some age groups - despite the large roster size of some of their teams, they turn away a lot of good players every year. Ultimately, finding qualified coaches, practice space, and all the rest is a pretty big burden and Metro is already managing over 30 teams (Travel and regional teams), so I suspect logistics might be a limiting factor.
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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t having multiple levels per club take care of this? For example, Maryland Juniors has three club levels (Elite, Open, and Regional) with two teams per club. That’s SIX clubs. Can’t Metro create more Travel level teams instead of just one Travel and multiple Regional teams?


Paramount has been the only club that has had regional success with their "2nd" teams. Paramount qualified their 14-2 team last year and their 15-2 team this year. Metro's 2nd teams are local teams that aren't even competitive within the region. Their only focus is their travel teams. There isn't enough talent in the area for their to be three true open level clubs, and to have multiple teams in an age group that have a chance to earn bids takes a lot of work (and a lot of great coaches)

Isn't the 15-2 from this year mostly the 14-2 team from last year? I don't expect Paramount to bleed a lot of players, so have the players shuffled between the two 15 teams? I am not familiar with their roster and I don't want to do research - I am hoping that someone is familiar with their rosters.
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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t having multiple levels per club take care of this? For example, Maryland Juniors has three club levels (Elite, Open, and Regional) with two teams per club. That’s SIX clubs. Can’t Metro create more Travel level teams instead of just one Travel and multiple Regional teams?


Paramount has been the only club that has had regional success with their "2nd" teams. Paramount qualified their 14-2 team last year and their 15-2 team this year. Metro's 2nd teams are local teams that aren't even competitive within the region. Their only focus is their travel teams. There isn't enough talent in the area for their to be three true open level clubs, and to have multiple teams in an age group that have a chance to earn bids takes a lot of work (and a lot of great coaches)

Isn't the 15-2 from this year mostly the 14-2 team from last year? I don't expect Paramount to bleed a lot of players, so have the players shuffled between the two 15 teams? I am not familiar with their roster and I don't want to do research - I am hoping that someone is familiar with their rosters.


I dont think I saw any player move up from paramount 2’s team to 1’s. Paramount 1’s team seems to recruit players outside of their club. Same as metro- I don’t see metro regional players moving to travel.
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Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t having multiple levels per club take care of this? For example, Maryland Juniors has three club levels (Elite, Open, and Regional) with two teams per club. That’s SIX clubs. Can’t Metro create more Travel level teams instead of just one Travel and multiple Regional teams?


Paramount has been the only club that has had regional success with their "2nd" teams. Paramount qualified their 14-2 team last year and their 15-2 team this year. Metro's 2nd teams are local teams that aren't even competitive within the region. Their only focus is their travel teams. There isn't enough talent in the area for their to be three true open level clubs, and to have multiple teams in an age group that have a chance to earn bids takes a lot of work (and a lot of great coaches)

Isn't the 15-2 from this year mostly the 14-2 team from last year? I don't expect Paramount to bleed a lot of players, so have the players shuffled between the two 15 teams? I am not familiar with their roster and I don't want to do research - I am hoping that someone is familiar with their rosters.


I dont think I saw any player move up from paramount 2’s team to 1’s. Paramount 1’s team seems to recruit players outside of their club. Same as metro- I don’t see metro regional players moving to travel.


Paramount claims that both of their teams are travel teams, so they don't really have a 1s team and a 2s team.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t having multiple levels per club take care of this? For example, Maryland Juniors has three club levels (Elite, Open, and Regional) with two teams per club. That’s SIX clubs. Can’t Metro create more Travel level teams instead of just one Travel and multiple Regional teams?


Paramount has been the only club that has had regional success with their "2nd" teams. Paramount qualified their 14-2 team last year and their 15-2 team this year. Metro's 2nd teams are local teams that aren't even competitive within the region. Their only focus is their travel teams. There isn't enough talent in the area for their to be three true open level clubs, and to have multiple teams in an age group that have a chance to earn bids takes a lot of work (and a lot of great coaches)

Isn't the 15-2 from this year mostly the 14-2 team from last year? I don't expect Paramount to bleed a lot of players, so have the players shuffled between the two 15 teams? I am not familiar with their roster and I don't want to do research - I am hoping that someone is familiar with their rosters.

Paramount is notorious for bleeding players. This year’s Paramount 18s only had 3 players return from last year’s 17s. Some of their coaches have reputations as being rather intense which maybe isn’t for everyone.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t having multiple levels per club take care of this? For example, Maryland Juniors has three club levels (Elite, Open, and Regional) with two teams per club. That’s SIX clubs. Can’t Metro create more Travel level teams instead of just one Travel and multiple Regional teams?


Paramount has been the only club that has had regional success with their "2nd" teams. Paramount qualified their 14-2 team last year and their 15-2 team this year. Metro's 2nd teams are local teams that aren't even competitive within the region. Their only focus is their travel teams. There isn't enough talent in the area for their to be three true open level clubs, and to have multiple teams in an age group that have a chance to earn bids takes a lot of work (and a lot of great coaches)

Isn't the 15-2 from this year mostly the 14-2 team from last year? I don't expect Paramount to bleed a lot of players, so have the players shuffled between the two 15 teams? I am not familiar with their roster and I don't want to do research - I am hoping that someone is familiar with their rosters.

Paramount is notorious for bleeding players. This year’s Paramount 18s only had 3 players return from last year’s 17s. Some of their coaches have reputations as being rather intense which maybe isn’t for everyone.


I heard 2 players from Paramount 15-1 quit mid season (not sure when, but they weren’t present at CHRVA regional) - 2 new players they picked up but never got playing time. It’s brutal!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wouldn’t having multiple levels per club take care of this? For example, Maryland Juniors has three club levels (Elite, Open, and Regional) with two teams per club. That’s SIX clubs. Can’t Metro create more Travel level teams instead of just one Travel and multiple Regional teams?


Paramount has been the only club that has had regional success with their "2nd" teams. Paramount qualified their 14-2 team last year and their 15-2 team this year. Metro's 2nd teams are local teams that aren't even competitive within the region. Their only focus is their travel teams. There isn't enough talent in the area for their to be three true open level clubs, and to have multiple teams in an age group that have a chance to earn bids takes a lot of work (and a lot of great coaches)

Isn't the 15-2 from this year mostly the 14-2 team from last year? I don't expect Paramount to bleed a lot of players, so have the players shuffled between the two 15 teams? I am not familiar with their roster and I don't want to do research - I am hoping that someone is familiar with their rosters.


I dont think I saw any player move up from paramount 2’s team to 1’s. Paramount 1’s team seems to recruit players outside of their club. Same as metro- I don’t see metro regional players moving to travel.


Paramount claims that both of their teams are travel teams, so they don't really have a 1s team and a 2s team.

I don’t doubt that is what the club says, but there is very clearly a 1s and a 2s team. Whichever team went to Triple Crown and more qualifiers is the 1s team.
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Updated the USAV bids earned by CHRVA teams: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/435/1219014.page#29732231

VA Elite 17s now have a Freedom bid after the Metro 17s got an Open bid at Big South. I think the Metro 17s "double-qualified" for 17 Open after today's results at Show Me. It also looks like the Paramount 16s may have earned an Open bid by placing the the Gold bracket in Kansas City. If I am correct, another 16s CHRVA team should now get a Freedom bid as the bids flow up to fill Paramount's previously earned American bid.

Looking at the NEQ results, it is possible that the Metro 14s may have earned an Open bid with a top 6 finish in the Gold bracket there (three teams in the top 6 already had Open bids). The Blue Ridge 13s also earned an Open bid ... and it is not being reported as "Declined Bid." The Blue Ridge 12s also earned a USA bid, but declined it.
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FPYCparent wrote:Updated the USAV bids earned by CHRVA teams: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/435/1219014.page#29732231

VA Elite 17s now have a Freedom bid after the Metro 17s got an Open bid at Big South. I think the Metro 17s "double-qualified" for 17 Open after today's results at Show Me. It also looks like the Paramount 16s may have earned an Open bid by placing the the Gold bracket in Kansas City. If I am correct, another 16s CHRVA team should now get a Freedom bid as the bids flow up to fill Paramount's previously earned American bid.

Looking at the NEQ results, it is possible that the Metro 14s may have earned an Open bid with a top 6 finish in the Gold bracket there (three teams in the top 6 already had Open bids). The Blue Ridge 13s also earned an Open bid ... and it is not being reported as "Declined Bid." The Blue Ridge 12s also earned a USA bid, but declined it.

Metro 14 Travel earned an Open bid at NEQ, and the Freedom bid went to MVSA 14.
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FPYCparent wrote:Updated the USAV bids earned by CHRVA teams: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/435/1219014.page#29732231

VA Elite 17s now have a Freedom bid after the Metro 17s got an Open bid at Big South. I think the Metro 17s "double-qualified" for 17 Open after today's results at Show Me. It also looks like the Paramount 16s may have earned an Open bid by placing the the Gold bracket in Kansas City. If I am correct, another 16s CHRVA team should now get a Freedom bid as the bids flow up to fill Paramount's previously earned American bid.

Looking at the NEQ results, it is possible that the Metro 14s may have earned an Open bid with a top 6 finish in the Gold bracket there (three teams in the top 6 already had Open bids). The Blue Ridge 13s also earned an Open bid ... and it is not being reported as "Declined Bid." The Blue Ridge 12s also earned a USA bid, but declined it.

MVSA 16 Sparks won the 16 American division at NEQ - doesn't change the CHRVA bid landscape since they already had a USA bid from Big South, but a notable qualifier performance nevertheless.
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FPYCparent wrote:Updated the USAV bids earned by CHRVA teams: https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/435/1219014.page#29732231

VA Elite 17s now have a Freedom bid after the Metro 17s got an Open bid at Big South. I think the Metro 17s "double-qualified" for 17 Open after today's results at Show Me. It also looks like the Paramount 16s may have earned an Open bid by placing the the Gold bracket in Kansas City. If I am correct, another 16s CHRVA team should now get a Freedom bid as the bids flow up to fill Paramount's previously earned American bid.

Looking at the NEQ results, it is possible that the Metro 14s may have earned an Open bid with a top 6 finish in the Gold bracket there (three teams in the top 6 already had Open bids). The Blue Ridge 13s also earned an Open bid ... and it is not being reported as "Declined Bid." The Blue Ridge 12s also earned a USA bid, but declined it.

Metro 14 Travel earned an Open bid at NEQ, and the Freedom bid went to MVSA 14.



How do you know that it went to MVSA? I didn’t see anything on their IG.
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