Anyone following this Candice Miller/Mama & Tata nightmare?

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Anonymous wrote:Miami is a good move for her children. Her kids attended Riverdale which is a pretty cut throat environment in terms of social status and wealth. Miami is less intense. By no means that much cheaper though.

Cut throat in terms of social status? What does even mean?

Middle school everywhere is a challenging social time for kids for the most part. I know her eldest especially was considered popular and her parents always threw her the most lavish parties.
Her coming year is bar mitzvah season so it will be a big adjustment for her to not have a socially-acceptable party. There is a ton of wealth at Riverdale.

And there's no money in Miami?! It'll be even worse! She would have been better off moving to some small town in CT or MA and rebranding as understated tasteful wealth in some historical small house.

People like this aren’t living in some tastefully done 4 bed 2.5 bath in Weston CT. No. Sorry. Even if there is no money left they aren’t doing that. Their whole life, drive, and religion is mega over the top wealth and they will not be able to adjust. The kids could potentially but they are in the tween age and have been taught to value stuff, luxury, over the top experiences. You don’t go from wearing designer clothes at 11 and spending whatever you want on sushi with other rich peers, dropping by love shack fancy and having no spending limit to being fine with J crew and living in a normal home. As others mentioned, it’s her bat mitzvah year and not having a socially acceptable one will traumatize this child. Even if she did have one I bet half her “friends” would not be permitted to attend. My bet is she will save herself the embarrassment and have a “family only” one in Israel. Most families who aren’t as rich as they want to appear or are going through a scandal do this.

. Sorry I shouldn’t have said religion then follow up with the bat mitzvah. The religion mentioned above had to do with Instagram obsession as the religion and drive in their lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Let's not be too quick to villify. My family and I used to be very close to the Millers. Mike and Barbara were wonderful generous people, and Mike had some very loyal investors - meaning he came through for them. Mike actually invested in my deals, shared his investors, offered up office space to my young company on favorable terms, and even offered to host my wedding. My basis for what I am writing includes sharing office space with Mike for almost a decade. Mike could be a difficult businessman in a way that appears to be representative of the the NYC real estate world, where few pay their bills or fail to negotatiate. In that uber competitive niche, not every deal works out and not every bill gets paid, but from what I saw with Michael Miller many did, which is probably why he flourished for decades. Mike and Barbara were incredible parents to Brandon and his sister. Brandon was a sweet and personable boy, shy and respectful. At Collegiate and then Brown, he survived academically challenging environments, so he must be smart. The Brandon we knew was not a shark. The last time we saw Brandon was at his wedding, and the last time I saw Mike and Barbara was at our son's bar mitzvah, fifteen years ago.

Real estate investing relies heavily on debt and timing. If the market is floating all boats, leverage through borrowing is wonderful and everyone wins. When the cycle isn't good, then leverage is a death knell. Mike survived a harsh period in his real estate investing and re-established himself, I can see how Brandon might have followed his father's legacy, investing and borrowing into the headwinds of a challenging COVID impacted real estate market where it becomes impossible to refinance properties or sell them for what you paid/invested. From my personal perspective - and that of my family - the Miller's were wonderful people. We are sincerely heartbroken.

How brave you, anonymous. You got sucked into the web of deceit.

Is it any different than Trump’s real estate dealings?

JFC, please get some mental health care. All roads do not lead to Trump, you are a joke.

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Anonymous wrote:Her looks are fine. Not 10/10 but not ugly either. She’s in great shape and she’s been well-maintained. The problem is her age and her baggage. Debt might be following her too, who knows. I think she’ll eventually land some twice-divorced older man, but I bet his kids won’t like it!

Women supporting women, this is so much fun to see! You have no idea what she is truly inside or if she was actually lied to by her husband, do you? Financial infidelity is a real thing and I have personally experienced it with my partner, it's amazing how blind we can be when we love someone, I know that firsthand. I give her some grace and time for the truth to come out and sadly, my bet is she will have a book/movie deal in the not too distant future as a means of surviving. Seen this story before, she will survive but not without damage in the "trust" department. That's hard to get back, and from my personal experience, all but impossible to escape the emotional damage.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why anyone would “rent” furniture for over 100k a year?

I can see this honestly, if you’re really rich and you need to move into a rental apartment for a year-ish while you’re renovating or buying or whatever? It would be cheaper and easier than fully furnishing the whole place I would think?

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why anyone would “rent” furniture for over 100k a year?

To flex on the ‘Gram.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why anyone would “rent” furniture for over 100k a year?

I can see this honestly, if you’re really rich and you need to move into a rental apartment for a year-ish while you’re renovating or buying or whatever? It would be cheaper and easier than fully furnishing the whole place I would think?

Her cousins I believe use the same staging company. They have tagged them in their instagram posts before

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This thread is making me long for the days when understated WASPs were the ideal.

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Anonymous wrote:Miami is a good move for her children. Her kids attended Riverdale which is a pretty cut throat environment in terms of social status and wealth. Miami is less intense. By no means that much cheaper though.

Cut throat in terms of social status? What does even mean?

Middle school everywhere is a challenging social time for kids for the most part. I know her eldest especially was considered popular and her parents always threw her the most lavish parties.
Her coming year is bar mitzvah season so it will be a big adjustment for her to not have a socially-acceptable party. There is a ton of wealth at Riverdale.

And there's no money in Miami?! It'll be even worse! She would have been better off moving to some small town in CT or MA and rebranding as understated tasteful wealth in some historical small house.

People like this aren’t living in some tastefully done 4 bed 2.5 bath in Weston CT. No. Sorry. Even if there is no money left they aren’t doing that. Their whole life, drive, and religion is mega over the top wealth and they will not be able to adjust. The kids could potentially but they are in the tween age and have been taught to value stuff, luxury, over the top experiences. You don’t go from wearing designer clothes at 11 and spending whatever you want on sushi with other rich peers, dropping by love shack fancy and having no spending limit to being fine with J crew and living in a normal home. As others mentioned, it’s her bat mitzvah year and not having a socially acceptable one will traumatize this child. Even if she did have one I bet half her “friends” would not be permitted to attend. My bet is she will save herself the embarrassment and have a “family only” one in Israel. Most families who aren’t as rich as they want to appear or are going through a scandal do this.

The furniture provided by the rental company included lots of mid-market pieces (Restoration Hardware, Westelm, CB2, Crate and Barrel).

So yes, they can live in a non-Uber rich decorated house, and yes, renting that kind of furniture, she would have known that they were in serious trouble.

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She’s gorgeous and I need her workout and style secrets

You can see her flaws in pics 2 and 3 here. Her face is a little smushed.

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Anonymous wrote:He only had 18 million in debt due to his real estate dealings. Losing projects and money is a normal part of that business. No reason for him to commit suicide.

His business failure has nothing to do with his wife’s spending.

Did her PR machine find this board- page after page of she's gorgeous, he had mental illness, he was a bad business person, but she's perfect!!! Definitely reads as PR.

Someone with a failed business should be able to talk to their spouse about it and say "hey honey, reel back the spending, no more $800/week facials, stop buying new clothes, we don't need all this furniture and this many houses, etc...", but he clearly didn't feel like he could do that, so he killed himself instead to keep her happy. Yeah, definitely nothing to do with her.

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This is OG Candice

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What in the cultural appropriation tarnation is this getup?

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain why anyone would “rent” furniture for over 100k a year?

They were not planning on living in that rented apt long term...

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She’s gorgeous and I need her workout and style secrets

You can see her flaws in pics 2 and 3 here. Her face is a little smushed.

How do these women stay so thin? Envious!

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Anonymous wrote:Miami is a good move for her children. Her kids attended Riverdale which is a pretty cut throat environment in terms of social status and wealth. Miami is less intense. By no means that much cheaper though.

Cut throat in terms of social status? What does even mean?

Middle school everywhere is a challenging social time for kids for the most part. I know her eldest especially was considered popular and her parents always threw her the most lavish parties.
Her coming year is bar mitzvah season so it will be a big adjustment for her to not have a socially-acceptable party. There is a ton of wealth at Riverdale.

And there's no money in Miami?! It'll be even worse! She would have been better off moving to some small town in CT or MA and rebranding as understated tasteful wealth in some historical small house.

People like this aren’t living in some tastefully done 4 bed 2.5 bath in Weston CT. No. Sorry. Even if there is no money left they aren’t doing that. Their whole life, drive, and religion is mega over the top wealth and they will not be able to adjust. The kids could potentially but they are in the tween age and have been taught to value stuff, luxury, over the top experiences. You don’t go from wearing designer clothes at 11 and spending whatever you want on sushi with other rich peers, dropping by love shack fancy and having no spending limit to being fine with J crew and living in a normal home. As others mentioned, it’s her bat mitzvah year and not having a socially acceptable one will traumatize this child. Even if she did have one I bet half her “friends” would not be permitted to attend. My bet is she will save herself the embarrassment and have a “family only” one in Israel. Most families who aren’t as rich as they want to appear or are going through a scandal do this.

I agree. Her daughters will unfortunately be outcasts for their lives. It sounds old fashion but it still stands today: no family of good standing wants to be associated with them.