COVID Lockdowns Were a Giant Experiment. It Was a Failure.

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Anonymous wrote:If you all could not be flexible during a major health crisis and only cared about yourselves, it speaks volumes. Normal childhood? Years ago, normal was being educated at home? Sounds like you all are ridged, inflexible and refuse to parent. What is going on at home that makes you so unhappy you cannot be at home. There are people with real health issues and you making fun of them screaming anxiety makes you a bully and this is probably why your kids struggled so much. It was not Covid but you. You have the mental health issues. It was really no big deal. If anything the slowed down life, dinner as a family and spending more time together brought us closer.

I hope you're not a teacher and wrote ^ that mess. Yikes. So much going on.

Stop blaming teachers for your issues. Teachers were working.

They were? Then explain the learning loss. How did that happen?

My kids had zero learning loss. We helped them, made sure they logged on and did their work, used the free tutors and more. Why did you not do that? Most kids who struggled always struggled but were ignored. If a middle schooler was struggling it was because the school and parents failed them before all this. Many kids have lots of unidentified needs and parents like you expect the schools to 100 percent fix them which will never happen. My best explanation is the dumbed down curriculum because of complaining parents like you, and those who did not monitor their kids. Mine were fine. So, how was your house structured where your kids were not and what did you do about it vs complain?

Look honey. If you embrace such an individualist approach, you can hardly then blame everyone else who does the same. Why would I “stay home to stop the spread” or whatever goofy mortalistic slogan, when per you everyone is completely on their own when it comes to education? If that’s the case then f teachers, open the school for *my* kid.

But anyway, this has been my thought since people first started to argue that teachers were just logically asserting their own interests. OK then, teachers unions just lost a whole lot of supporters …

I stayed home as I did not want Covid or to spread it. Your kids were provided with an education. You list your free child care. That was the issue. You overspend on your housing, travel and other things and want to scream poverty when it comes to paying for child care.

What child care was available to take on that capacity exactly? Per your crazy POV, isn't that just spreading "the risk" to child care providers? Are you just a hypocrite (and/or a clown)?

MCPS offered child care. It was primarily for low income.

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Anonymous wrote:If you all could not be flexible during a major health crisis and only cared about yourselves, it speaks volumes. Normal childhood? Years ago, normal was being educated at home? Sounds like you all are ridged, inflexible and refuse to parent. What is going on at home that makes you so unhappy you cannot be at home. There are people with real health issues and you making fun of them screaming anxiety makes you a bully and this is probably why your kids struggled so much. It was not Covid but you. You have the mental health issues. It was really no big deal. If anything the slowed down life, dinner as a family and spending more time together brought us closer.

I hope you're not a teacher and wrote ^ that mess. Yikes. So much going on.

Stop blaming teachers for your issues. Teachers were working.

No, y’all gave yourselves Wednesdays off … what a joke

Do you have any idea how much additional planning and preparation is required to deliver instruction virtually even 4 days a week when the entire structure was never set up for anything that was not in person?

If you really want to avoid disruption like it again, you should be advocating for more of that planning and preparation when it’s not a crisis—not carping more about how it happened when it was a crisis.

cry me a freakin’ river, complaining about how hard virtual was for teachers! My kid had instruction from 9-1 with a 1 hr lunch, and often times they just ended at 11. 4 days/week.

DP, and not a teacher. PP, you are not being fair. You can question the decisions, talk about harm, or propose different ideas for the future, but individual teachers did their best to deliver virtual instruction. Seriously, you are out of line.

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Anonymous wrote:If you all could not be flexible during a major health crisis and only cared about yourselves, it speaks volumes. Normal childhood? Years ago, normal was being educated at home? Sounds like you all are ridged, inflexible and refuse to parent. What is going on at home that makes you so unhappy you cannot be at home. There are people with real health issues and you making fun of them screaming anxiety makes you a bully and this is probably why your kids struggled so much. It was not Covid but you. You have the mental health issues. It was really no big deal. If anything the slowed down life, dinner as a family and spending more time together brought us closer.

I hope you're not a teacher and wrote ^ that mess. Yikes. So much going on.

Stop blaming teachers for your issues. Teachers were working.

No, y’all gave yourselves Wednesdays off … what a joke

Do you have any idea how much additional planning and preparation is required to deliver instruction virtually even 4 days a week when the entire structure was never set up for anything that was not in person?

If you really want to avoid disruption like it again, you should be advocating for more of that planning and preparation when it’s not a crisis—not carping more about how it happened when it was a crisis.

cry me a freakin’ river, complaining about how hard virtual was for teachers! My kid had instruction from 9-1 with a 1 hr lunch, and often times they just ended at 11. 4 days/week.

DP, and not a teacher. PP, you are not being fair. You can question the decisions, talk about harm, or propose different ideas for the future, but individual teachers did their best to deliver virtual instruction. Seriously, you are out of line.

Sure, they did their best…while definitively making the case this mistake won’t be repeated.

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Anonymous wrote:If you all could not be flexible during a major health crisis and only cared about yourselves, it speaks volumes. Normal childhood? Years ago, normal was being educated at home? Sounds like you all are ridged, inflexible and refuse to parent. What is going on at home that makes you so unhappy you cannot be at home. There are people with real health issues and you making fun of them screaming anxiety makes you a bully and this is probably why your kids struggled so much. It was not Covid but you. You have the mental health issues. It was really no big deal. If anything the slowed down life, dinner as a family and spending more time together brought us closer.

I hope you're not a teacher and wrote ^ that mess. Yikes. So much going on.

Stop blaming teachers for your issues. Teachers were working.

No, y’all gave yourselves Wednesdays off … what a joke

Do you have any idea how much additional planning and preparation is required to deliver instruction virtually even 4 days a week when the entire structure was never set up for anything that was not in person?

If you really want to avoid disruption like it again, you should be advocating for more of that planning and preparation when it’s not a crisis—not carping more about how it happened when it was a crisis.

cry me a freakin’ river, complaining about how hard virtual was for teachers! My kid had instruction from 9-1 with a 1 hr lunch, and often times they just ended at 11. 4 days/week.

DP, and not a teacher. PP, you are not being fair. You can question the decisions, talk about harm, or propose different ideas for the future, but individual teachers did their best to deliver virtual instruction. Seriously, you are out of line.

The people out of line are the ones who think they deserve sympathy for how hard virtual was ON TEACHERS

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Anonymous wrote:If you all could not be flexible during a major health crisis and only cared about yourselves, it speaks volumes. Normal childhood? Years ago, normal was being educated at home? Sounds like you all are ridged, inflexible and refuse to parent. What is going on at home that makes you so unhappy you cannot be at home. There are people with real health issues and you making fun of them screaming anxiety makes you a bully and this is probably why your kids struggled so much. It was not Covid but you. You have the mental health issues. It was really no big deal. If anything the slowed down life, dinner as a family and spending more time together brought us closer.

A job. Do you have one?

Ok, so, why are you posting here when you should be working. Clearly you have flexibility. How do you make it work summers? Everyone else made it work, why could you not?

Sensitive that you don't have a job where you're contributing to society?

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Anonymous wrote:If you all could not be flexible during a major health crisis and only cared about yourselves, it speaks volumes. Normal childhood? Years ago, normal was being educated at home? Sounds like you all are ridged, inflexible and refuse to parent. What is going on at home that makes you so unhappy you cannot be at home. There are people with real health issues and you making fun of them screaming anxiety makes you a bully and this is probably why your kids struggled so much. It was not Covid but you. You have the mental health issues. It was really no big deal. If anything the slowed down life, dinner as a family and spending more time together brought us closer.

I hope you're not a teacher and wrote ^ that mess. Yikes. So much going on.

Stop blaming teachers for your issues. Teachers were working.

No, y’all gave yourselves Wednesdays off … what a joke

Do you have any idea how much additional planning and preparation is required to deliver instruction virtually even 4 days a week when the entire structure was never set up for anything that was not in person?

If you really want to avoid disruption like it again, you should be advocating for more of that planning and preparation when it’s not a crisis—not carping more about how it happened when it was a crisis.

cry me a freakin’ river, complaining about how hard virtual was for teachers! My kid had instruction from 9-1 with a 1 hr lunch, and often times they just ended at 11. 4 days/week.

DP, and not a teacher. PP, you are not being fair. You can question the decisions, talk about harm, or propose different ideas for the future, but individual teachers did their best to deliver virtual instruction. Seriously, you are out of line.

Some individual teachers did, yes. Others did not. But the main point is that their unions fought to keep classrooms closed, which limited how effective they could ever be even with serious effort.

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Anonymous wrote:If you all could not be flexible during a major health crisis and only cared about yourselves, it speaks volumes. Normal childhood? Years ago, normal was being educated at home? Sounds like you all are ridged, inflexible and refuse to parent. What is going on at home that makes you so unhappy you cannot be at home. There are people with real health issues and you making fun of them screaming anxiety makes you a bully and this is probably why your kids struggled so much. It was not Covid but you. You have the mental health issues. It was really no big deal. If anything the slowed down life, dinner as a family and spending more time together brought us closer.

A job. Do you have one?

Ok, so, why are you posting here when you should be working. Clearly you have flexibility. How do you make it work summers? Everyone else made it work, why could you not?

Sensitive that you don't have a job where you're contributing to society?

I think PP runs a household. That’s serious business. It also provides a soapbox to look down on the rest of us.

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Anonymous wrote:Keeping public schools closed for an extra year - while private schools and restaurants and retail and etc were open - was a giant mistake.

And I will never forgive progressives and teachers unions for throwing kids under the bus like that

You are right, they should have kept them all closed/virtual. Imagine if they did how many lives could have been saved. So, some of us did our part while the rest of you lived life as normal, spreading it to the rest of us and killing our family members. Thank you. Really appreciate your kindness and empathy.

I bet you really believe this and there are so many like you.

See I still wonder why no one ever talks about why so many people with no health conditions they knew of died. That’s what is scary. It shows how lacking diagnostics for health really are.

And then I wonder if the “cure” was worse than the disease. I do know one person who died bc the massive amounts of steroids used led to a heart attack. I think if we were to really look into the covid deaths this would not be an unusual case.

What I learned from the pandemic was how easily overwhelmed and frightened even the smartest people can be and no amount of reason can help them overcome this. And the next time around maybe anti anxiety pills need to be given out more freely. I am not kidding either. I think it would have helped a lot.

I don’t blame the govt or either president bc none had experienced a pandemic. Yes the govt had plans but they were always based on the idea that modern medicine would be do good as to overcome it in a short duration think like less than 1 yr. Now they know better so they will do better. The basis for planning was 1918 so they thought look how far we have come surely modern medicine will be able to get it sorted out in months.

And then throw in media and people bring home with nothing to do but consume it …

We will never really know what did and didn't work. The response to the pandemic was all over the place. You can find "facts" out there to support any position you want if you look hard enough or twist the narrative.

Americans don't like being told what to do. Everything gets politicized and corrupted by the awfulness that comes with that. We will never unify in the face of any virus or enemy like we did back in WW2. We are a different nation now and everyone is out for themselves. No one wants to sacrifice. And say what you want about the CDC and public officials, but the lack of trust has been degraded long before the pandemic. We got lucky with COVID. If anything truly scary ever hits, we are totally F-d. All the COVID-trauma queens will ignore any and all public health recommendations and mandates, because they think they are pandemic-response experts now.

It would be great if we could learn from the pandemic and do better next time. But we won't.

This isn’t about Americans not liking being told what to do, it’s about policy and scientific effectiveness. We masked toddlers. The Western Europeans weren’t doing that, and their schools were open when blue districts here in the US were still locked down a year later. We can compare what worked and what didn’t by comparing health outcomes across multiple population groups - it’s not like the pandemic only affected the US.

+1. I'm still mad that my 2yo had to mask, and no I'm not going to let it go, because health officials never admitted they were wrong and what's to say they wouldn't throw young children under the bus again.

Are you five years old? You are still having a tantrum about this? You want an apology from whom exactly?

Good Lord.

I guess you're going to have to find a way to cope that people aren't just going to sweep this all under the rug and never mention it again.

Or y’all are going to have to find a way to cope with sounding more and more like people who deny that the moon landing occurred.

Maybe both!

Bless your heart. You probably still think kids wearing masks under their noses saved lives.

Bless your heart. You’re just throwing out any insult you can think of at this point. Help is available.

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Anonymous wrote:Keeping public schools closed for an extra year - while private schools and restaurants and retail and etc were open - was a giant mistake.

And I will never forgive progressives and teachers unions for throwing kids under the bus like that

You are right, they should have kept them all closed/virtual. Imagine if they did how many lives could have been saved. So, some of us did our part while the rest of you lived life as normal, spreading it to the rest of us and killing our family members. Thank you. Really appreciate your kindness and empathy.

I bet you really believe this and there are so many like you.

See I still wonder why no one ever talks about why so many people with no health conditions they knew of died. That’s what is scary. It shows how lacking diagnostics for health really are.

And then I wonder if the “cure” was worse than the disease. I do know one person who died bc the massive amounts of steroids used led to a heart attack. I think if we were to really look into the covid deaths this would not be an unusual case.

What I learned from the pandemic was how easily overwhelmed and frightened even the smartest people can be and no amount of reason can help them overcome this. And the next time around maybe anti anxiety pills need to be given out more freely. I am not kidding either. I think it would have helped a lot.

I don’t blame the govt or either president bc none had experienced a pandemic. Yes the govt had plans but they were always based on the idea that modern medicine would be do good as to overcome it in a short duration think like less than 1 yr. Now they know better so they will do better. The basis for planning was 1918 so they thought look how far we have come surely modern medicine will be able to get it sorted out in months.

And then throw in media and people bring home with nothing to do but consume it …

We will never really know what did and didn't work. The response to the pandemic was all over the place. You can find "facts" out there to support any position you want if you look hard enough or twist the narrative.

Americans don't like being told what to do. Everything gets politicized and corrupted by the awfulness that comes with that. We will never unify in the face of any virus or enemy like we did back in WW2. We are a different nation now and everyone is out for themselves. No one wants to sacrifice. And say what you want about the CDC and public officials, but the lack of trust has been degraded long before the pandemic. We got lucky with COVID. If anything truly scary ever hits, we are totally F-d. All the COVID-trauma queens will ignore any and all public health recommendations and mandates, because they think they are pandemic-response experts now.

It would be great if we could learn from the pandemic and do better next time. But we won't.

This isn’t about Americans not liking being told what to do, it’s about policy and scientific effectiveness. We masked toddlers. The Western Europeans weren’t doing that, and their schools were open when blue districts here in the US were still locked down a year later. We can compare what worked and what didn’t by comparing health outcomes across multiple population groups - it’s not like the pandemic only affected the US.

+1. I'm still mad that my 2yo had to mask, and no I'm not going to let it go, because health officials never admitted they were wrong and what's to say they wouldn't throw young children under the bus again.

Are you five years old? You are still having a tantrum about this? You want an apology from whom exactly?

Good Lord.

I guess you're going to have to find a way to cope that people aren't just going to sweep this all under the rug and never mention it again.

Or y’all are going to have to find a way to cope with sounding more and more like people who deny that the moon landing occurred.

Maybe both!

Bless your heart. You probably still think kids wearing masks under their noses saved lives.

Bless your heart. You’re just throwing out any insult you can think of at this point. Help is available.

We wouldn't be in this situation but for the out of control health anxiety you and so many others have. I know you think you're being cute but we know this. Get help.

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close your eyes and imagine that Biden had said masks were not needed and neither were lockdowns and school lock downs should not happen. But Trump supported all those things. Would you still have said or say today that you absolutely would have still wanted all those things? Because I believe the majority would not.

Learn from your mistakes.

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I'm a liberal voter but trying to argue that virtual school wasn't a mistake is ridiculous. And I am a teacher!

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a liberal voter but trying to argue that virtual school wasn't a mistake is ridiculous. And I am a teacher!

This. I don't teach but my parents, sister, and SIL are all teachers (in a blue state that isn't on a coast). They all taught virtually in spring 2020 and then went back in person in August 2020 (hybrid in the fall and then full time in person by February when vaccines were available.

They all hate Trump and believe in science, and every one of them think how we handled it in the DMV is insane. My mom still advocates for us to move there because she worries for my youngest who did kindergarten remotely, and worries they'll close the schools again here. They hated teaching virtually and embraced hybrid (which also sucked but at least allowed for social distancing in person), masking, testing, etc., to be able to teach in person. My dad is a HS science teacher with a heart condition, and he would have retired if they stayed virtual any longer because he hated being out of the lab and trying to engage HS kids on Zoom.

DC is a huge outlier on this, but I think many people here don't have enough experience with other places to understand how much.

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Anonymous wrote:I still have no clue why all the playgrounds got fenced off and closed. WHY?!

We tried very hard to keep things normal for our small kids, but as parents we paid a heavy price. I changed a lot as a parent and also as a person. I had a great life beforehand filled with friends and relatives. It made me realize that you can't rely on anyone. Grandparents just huddled in their houses by themselves while kids had mental breakdown and parents nearly lost their jobs.

Yes I was changed as a person too. Became pretty jaded. My kid, surprisingly, did better - but I would never dream of denying that some kids were deeply affected.
As for the playgrounds - those in power had to “do something” and it was the easiest thing to do.

People were dying and your biggest worry was playgrounds. You can get a $100-200 swing set for your backyard. No backyard, go to a friends house.

Literally no one was dying of covid from open playgrounds. Don't be ridiculous.

Of course a kid could get Covid and bring it home to a parent or grandparents.

But that same kid would not bring it home if they attended a protest against racism. Because that was different.

It’s barely transmitted outdoors. If you were that distraught about the discrepancy you could have helped arrange school outside instead of making fun of people here who took steps to do that. It was a lot harder work, though.

Unless it was an outdoor playground. Because then it would definitely transmit. Same goes for joggers on the sidewalk.

Playgrounds were closed for how long? Joggers were asked to mask for how long?

It’s been years. At this point you sound like the ones with the harder time moving on.

I really don't understand why you're so opposed to identifying and learning from the mistakes made in our pandemic response. It's quite odd. Are you fundamentally opposed to learning history, too?

+1 the unions have been screeching "get over it!" since 2021 because they don't want anyone to learn from the experience, as that learning would highlight the harms that extended virtual schooling created.

But now they're big on touting the learning loss (see Randi's tweets), to get even more money. Create a problem and then extort money from taxpayers.

Instead of the military industrial complex, it's the educational industrial complex.

I wouldn't put it the same way, but I do think when making drastic decisions about something important as public education, all costs (financial, educational, health, etc.) need to be considered as part of those decisions. That definitely wasn't done. Learning gaps are only being acknowledged now by education leaders because they need more money. When closures were being debated in the fall of 2020, no one was saying that we needed to keep schools closed in the name of public health, but we also needed to recognize that there would be setbacks that would require intensive effort and significant funding to address. Instead, the cost were minimized or ignored entirely. That's a fact

+1 the discourse on the left was not honest. It was gaslighting and bullying.

You are perfectly describing the right/conservative modus operandi here. So politicizing this was the worst thing we could have done. Intractable BS on both sides.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a liberal voter but trying to argue that virtual school wasn't a mistake is ridiculous. And I am a teacher!

This. I don't teach but my parents, sister, and SIL are all teachers (in a blue state that isn't on a coast). They all taught virtually in spring 2020 and then went back in person in August 2020 (hybrid in the fall and then full time in person by February when vaccines were available.

They all hate Trump and believe in science, and every one of them think how we handled it in the DMV is insane. My mom still advocates for us to move there because she worries for my youngest who did kindergarten remotely, and worries they'll close the schools again here. They hated teaching virtually and embraced hybrid (which also sucked but at least allowed for social distancing in person), masking, testing, etc., to be able to teach in person. My dad is a HS science teacher with a heart condition, and he would have retired if they stayed virtual any longer because he hated being out of the lab and trying to engage HS kids on Zoom.

DC is a huge outlier on this, but I think many people here don't have enough experience with other places to understand how much.

Why does she think they would close schools again? WTF. I wouldn't want to listen to someone thinking like that, either.

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Anonymous wrote:Keeping public schools closed for an extra year - while private schools and restaurants and retail and etc were open - was a giant mistake.

And I will never forgive progressives and teachers unions for throwing kids under the bus like that

You are right, they should have kept them all closed/virtual. Imagine if they did how many lives could have been saved. So, some of us did our part while the rest of you lived life as normal, spreading it to the rest of us and killing our family members. Thank you. Really appreciate your kindness and empathy.

I bet you really believe this and there are so many like you.

See I still wonder why no one ever talks about why so many people with no health conditions they knew of died. That’s what is scary. It shows how lacking diagnostics for health really are.

And then I wonder if the “cure” was worse than the disease. I do know one person who died bc the massive amounts of steroids used led to a heart attack. I think if we were to really look into the covid deaths this would not be an unusual case.

What I learned from the pandemic was how easily overwhelmed and frightened even the smartest people can be and no amount of reason can help them overcome this. And the next time around maybe anti anxiety pills need to be given out more freely. I am not kidding either. I think it would have helped a lot.

I don’t blame the govt or either president bc none had experienced a pandemic. Yes the govt had plans but they were always based on the idea that modern medicine would be do good as to overcome it in a short duration think like less than 1 yr. Now they know better so they will do better. The basis for planning was 1918 so they thought look how far we have come surely modern medicine will be able to get it sorted out in months.

And then throw in media and people bring home with nothing to do but consume it …

We will never really know what did and didn't work. The response to the pandemic was all over the place. You can find "facts" out there to support any position you want if you look hard enough or twist the narrative.

Americans don't like being told what to do. Everything gets politicized and corrupted by the awfulness that comes with that. We will never unify in the face of any virus or enemy like we did back in WW2. We are a different nation now and everyone is out for themselves. No one wants to sacrifice. And say what you want about the CDC and public officials, but the lack of trust has been degraded long before the pandemic. We got lucky with COVID. If anything truly scary ever hits, we are totally F-d. All the COVID-trauma queens will ignore any and all public health recommendations and mandates, because they think they are pandemic-response experts now.

It would be great if we could learn from the pandemic and do better next time. But we won't.

This isn’t about Americans not liking being told what to do, it’s about policy and scientific effectiveness. We masked toddlers. The Western Europeans weren’t doing that, and their schools were open when blue districts here in the US were still locked down a year later. We can compare what worked and what didn’t by comparing health outcomes across multiple population groups - it’s not like the pandemic only affected the US.

+1. I'm still mad that my 2yo had to mask, and no I'm not going to let it go, because health officials never admitted they were wrong and what's to say they wouldn't throw young children under the bus again.

Are you five years old? You are still having a tantrum about this? You want an apology from whom exactly?

Good Lord.

I guess you're going to have to find a way to cope that people aren't just going to sweep this all under the rug and never mention it again.

Or y’all are going to have to find a way to cope with sounding more and more like people who deny that the moon landing occurred.

Maybe both!

Bless your heart. You probably still think kids wearing masks under their noses saved lives.

Bless your heart. You’re just throwing out any insult you can think of at this point. Help is available.

We wouldn't be in this situation but for the out of control health anxiety you and so many others have. I know you think you're being cute but we know this. Get help.

DP and the covid trauma queens raving on this thread about "WE'LL NEVER FORGET" and "fire everyone who was working in education during the pandemic" take the cake for mental health effects of the pandemic. AND they insult and belittle the people with health anxiety.

Talk about out of control. And this kind of nonsense will not lead to constructive changes in education.