When the Dems Lose 2024...

[Anonymous]

How will Trump win exactly? He is not a mystery and was a total disaster before. Usually the opponent running against the incumbent is an unknown and that can be an advantage. Not this time!

How is he going to win the groups needed to win the presidency? It makes no sense at all.

[Anonymous]

The best chance the Ds have of winning. Is to get Biden to bow out. It’s that’s simple. The debate was not just a bad night. It was a BIG DEAL. If you want Trump in office keep encouraging Biden. If you believe Trump is horrible for the country, start loving Harris.

Personally I would be 100% more excited about her, put my money and my time behind her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How will Trump win exactly? He is not a mystery and was a total disaster before. Usually the opponent running against the incumbent is an unknown and that can be an advantage. Not this time!

How is he going to win the groups needed to win the presidency? It makes no sense at all.

Start reading the polls. Trumps is doing better across all of groups needed to win this time against Biden.

Harris is the better horse to bet on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How will Trump win exactly? He is not a mystery and was a total disaster before. Usually the opponent running against the incumbent is an unknown and that can be an advantage. Not this time!

How is he going to win the groups needed to win the presidency? It makes no sense at all.

Start reading the polls. Trumps is doing better across all of groups needed to win this time against Biden.

Harris is the better horse to bet on.

Women?? in the suburbs in swing states?? I find that hard to believe. We know what Trump is like. We have been here before.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How will Trump win exactly? He is not a mystery and was a total disaster before. Usually the opponent running against the incumbent is an unknown and that can be an advantage. Not this time!

How is he going to win the groups needed to win the presidency? It makes no sense at all.

Start reading the polls. Trumps is doing better across all of groups needed to win this time against Biden.

Harris is the better horse to bet on.

Women?? in the suburbs in swing states?? I find that hard to believe. We know what Trump is like. We have been here before.

This is all true, but this time Democrats are different and America is different. The choice is different: authoritarianism vs anarchy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hi. OP here. Remember when y'all were making fun of my prediction when I first posted this? Saying it would never happen? Then when I posted the exact moment the polls turned south on Biden, you poo-pooed that and said it was a non-issue?

Now that you've received your last-chance wake-up call, you better get your act together and take what I'm saying seriously. You can keep trying to deny it, or you can do something about it.

Most Americans are seeing two candidates that they don't want. You're losing the center by catering to the extremes.

By now you should realize that Biden needs to step down? Make sure it's a strong candidate known as an advocate for strong Border Security and immigration.
Better yet, a Republican (or former Republican) willing to work with Democrats known as honest and a centrist

Fire the coo-coo Democrats who are too far Left. Stay centrist as the party of Unity, but make it known that the few shall not impose their will on the many.

Stay strong on Ukraine, vague on Israel/Palestine and Taiwan/China for now and you'll be fine.

If not, my crystal ball says November will lose more than an election - you'll lose the Country.

I’m a moderate who fully agreed with you throughout this thread and for context, I remember saying something similar in June 2016 and received the same responses you are now back then. I was reliably told by fellow Democrats that I was an idiot for thinking Trump even had a chance.

Look, I think you are going to be unfortunately but absolutely right. If things continue the way they are, there is going to be a massive win for the Republicans. Here is what I think the Democrats need to do, and quickly:

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- Get rid of every progressive campaign advisor. They are toxic and destructive.
- Don’t engage with the morons camping out and rooting for Hamas. Just ignore. Nobody likes them.
- Back out the ridiculous Title IX changes and take a strong stance on protecting the safety of biological women and girls in sports.
- Come up with a solid border plan. Don’t apologize for calling the killer of Laken Riley an illegal. Ignore the screaming progressives, the border is a major issue for a lot of voters. Don’t pretend it’s not an issue.
- Continue with student loan relief but take it down a notch because it angers a lot of voters. It’s not wrong but no need to highlight it so much, it’s not winning voters anyhow.
- Stay strong on Ukraine, highlight stuff like the CHIPS Act with respect to China.
- Hammer home abortion rights but don’t be crazy about it.

Basically get a reasoned moderate in place who isn’t a progressive loon, let Biden gracefully exit, and maybe there is a chance. Otherwise, no. It will be Trump again and by a landslide.

Oh great-the future of the Democratic party is...a worse version of the Republican Party. Get rid of the progressives cause f*ck the people who actually stir up a little youth vote, we hate anyone under 60 in this party. Then, do a little of the anti-trans things, hell get rid of Gay marriage who really needs it! And even better, BUILD A WALL! Then, be quiet about any actual progressive work because shh, people can't know that you are trying to improve the country silly. And then be LOUD about being a warhawk. Wow, the Democrats have really shat themselves at having any audacity or power, instead we are just following the Republicans 5 years late, so we can barely keep in touch with moderates who are lukewarm voters, supports, donors, etc. Abandon those idiot young people who are progressive, what do they know those "bad Palestinians"? What a joke.

NP. I’m an independent, and agree wholeheartedly with the person you’ve responded to. Their post was outstanding. You, PP, are a radical and will be the downfall of the Democratic Party.

Of course you do. You're an independent lmao. You are naturally more conservative leaning, and I don't see why your interests should be the basis of my political party options.

Because your political party options are losing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How will Trump win exactly? He is not a mystery and was a total disaster before. Usually the opponent running against the incumbent is an unknown and that can be an advantage. Not this time!

How is he going to win the groups needed to win the presidency? It makes no sense at all.

Start reading the polls. Trumps is doing better across all of groups needed to win this time against Biden.

Harris is the better horse to bet on.

Women?? in the suburbs in swing states?? I find that hard to believe. We know what Trump is like. We have been here before.

This is all true, but this time Democrats are different and America is different. The choice is different: authoritarianism vs anarchy.

Nope. No anarchy with a Democratic administration. A Trump administration is flashing red lights. Not what I want for my kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How will Trump win exactly? He is not a mystery and was a total disaster before. Usually the opponent running against the incumbent is an unknown and that can be an advantage. Not this time!

How is he going to win the groups needed to win the presidency? It makes no sense at all.

Start reading the polls. Trumps is doing better across all of groups needed to win this time against Biden.

Harris is the better horse to bet on.

Women?? in the suburbs in swing states?? I find that hard to believe. We know what Trump is like. We have been here before.

This is all true, but this time Democrats are different and America is different. The choice is different: authoritarianism vs anarchy.

Nope. No anarchy with a Democratic administration. A Trump administration is flashing red lights. Not what I want for my kids.

We have anarchy now. What the hell are you talking about?

[Anonymous]

This makes me so happy, Biden is a disgrace , and the longer this coverup continues, the more damage it causes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How will Trump win exactly? He is not a mystery and was a total disaster before. Usually the opponent running against the incumbent is an unknown and that can be an advantage. Not this time!

How is he going to win the groups needed to win the presidency? It makes no sense at all.

Start reading the polls. Trumps is doing better across all of groups needed to win this time against Biden.

Harris is the better horse to bet on.

Women?? in the suburbs in swing states?? I find that hard to believe. We know what Trump is like. We have been here before.

This is all true, but this time Democrats are different and America is different. The choice is different: authoritarianism vs anarchy.

Nope. No anarchy with a Democratic administration. A Trump administration is flashing red lights. Not what I want for my kids.

We have anarchy now. What the hell are you talking about?

We have… anarchy now?

How do people say this nonsense? Have you never been anywhere outside of the US?

I woke up this morning, the stock market was up, I had a great job, I was able to drink the water from the tap, the air was clean, the birds were singing, the president wasn’t declaring a bunch of nonsense about military tribunals for enemies, and crime is going down in my majority-black hometown as it has been for more than a decade.

Where are you seeing “anarchy” please?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How will Trump win exactly? He is not a mystery and was a total disaster before. Usually the opponent running against the incumbent is an unknown and that can be an advantage. Not this time!

How is he going to win the groups needed to win the presidency? It makes no sense at all.

Start reading the polls. Trumps is doing better across all of groups needed to win this time against Biden.

Harris is the better horse to bet on.

Women?? in the suburbs in swing states?? I find that hard to believe. We know what Trump is like. We have been here before.

This is all true, but this time Democrats are different and America is different. The choice is different: authoritarianism vs anarchy.

Nope. No anarchy with a Democratic administration. A Trump administration is flashing red lights. Not what I want for my kids.

We have anarchy now. What the hell are you talking about?

Anarchy the Rs are creating yes. But I have zero interest in going back to Trump as president. No mystery. We know what he is like and will be 1000x worse if he wins based on ALL the things he says and does.

[Anonymous]

When Trump is elected and fires thousands of government workers, how will they pay mortgages, credit cards and car loans? Social Security payments will stop; no one to administer. Foreclosures will ensue and real estate across the country will rapidly be devalued. Millions more homeless. Crime will shoot up because laws don’t matter and hungry people lose their values. It sounds like anarchy to me.

[Anonymous]

The Proxy WW3 Joe bumbled into could get everybody killed.

Total disgrace

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When Trump is elected and fires thousands of government workers, how will they pay mortgages, credit cards and car loans? Social Security payments will stop; no one to administer. Foreclosures will ensue and real estate across the country will rapidly be devalued. Millions more homeless. Crime will shoot up because laws don’t matter and hungry people lose their values. It sounds like anarchy to me.

Yes.

And if he doesn’t plan to follow through…why mention it at all? Why scare people like that. Because he is a sociopath, that is why. And that is just one thing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Proxy WW3 Joe bumbled into could get everybody killed.

Total disgrace

That is your response? What about the free fall this country will be in because of what Trump is SAYING he will do? And who knows what else he plans for that he isn’t mentioning.