Another gunman, another elementary school

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe it’s time for one of these families to take the path of Mamie Elizabeth Till-Mobley, and authorize the publication of a photo of what their 4th grader looked like after being shredded to pieces by high velocity semi automatic gunfire leaving the kid unrecognizable for family visual identification. When this country saw what was done to Emmit Till by white supremacist terrorists, it was a turning point. We really need a turning point on gun violence.

Painfully. Agree.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing is going to change. Because this is America going backwards, slowly but surely. It IS happening.

A half naked man is going to tell me what’s what?

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Anonymous wrote:Texas Tribune update: it’s now 18 children and 3 adults dead in Uvalde elementary school shooting

And in two days Abbott is going to speak at the NRA conference just a few hundred miles from where this happened. Apparently 18 dead children and 3 dead adults is an acceptable sacrifice for some extra campaign $$.

Where’s the conference?

Houston

So Trump, Cruz, Abbott and 55,000 NRA supporters will be at the George R. Brown Convention Center this weekend?

Yep, and anyone off the street can attend the event (if they join).

I assume firearms of all types are allowed throughout the event?

And I’m sure guns will be banned from the event.

During the 151st NRA Annual Meetings & Exhibits, personal firearms may be carried in the George R. Brown Convention Center (GRBCC) in accordance with Texas law. When carrying your firearm, always adhere to all federal, state, and local laws.

Abbot, Cruz & trump are scheduled to speak. I’ve read that at least for trump’s spot, no guns allowed.

"One place you won't find guns in the wake of the Texas school massacre? The NRA's upcoming leadership conference in Houston this week"

Such hypocrites!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So I'm sure this has been asked and answered in this thread but I can't comb through 30 pages.

Obviously gun control is the answer here. But in lieu of actual sensible reform, why can we not secure these school buildings? I work in a hospital. It's badge in, badge out. No exceptions. There's three big-@ss security guards at every door (and only two entrances). No sketchy teen with a backpack full of anything is getting past these guys.

I'm trying to figure out how an 18 yo blows into an elementary school in body armor with a backpack. Why wouldn't we start with a simple security fix??

I worry for your patients if you are this naïve. You think a gun can’t get past three “big @ss” security guards? My dear, that is the entire point of a gun- to give the weakest, flabbiest man the power to kill anyone or anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So I'm sure this has been asked and answered in this thread but I can't comb through 30 pages.

Obviously gun control is the answer here. But in lieu of actual sensible reform, why can we not secure these school buildings? I work in a hospital. It's badge in, badge out. No exceptions. There's three big-@ss security guards at every door (and only two entrances). No sketchy teen with a backpack full of anything is getting past these guys.

I'm trying to figure out how an 18 yo blows into an elementary school in body armor with a backpack. Why wouldn't we start with a simple security fix??

They had security at the the school. They were unable to stop him. They shot him but had to wait for more heavily armed police to show up. The shooter wore body armor and had assaults rifle. If this guy had shown up at your hospital the big-a$$ security guard would be blown away and so would you. Then we can blame you for not being armed. You really think the security at your hospital will stop a suicidal shooter armed with assault rifles and wearing body armor? You are sadly mistaken.

Do you remember the Afghanistan airport? Those were marines fully armed and on high alert. So no increasing security at ever school will not work.

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Anonymous wrote:So I'm sure this has been asked and answered in this thread but I can't comb through 30 pages.

Obviously gun control is the answer here. But in lieu of actual sensible reform, why can we not secure these school buildings? I work in a hospital. It's badge in, badge out. No exceptions. There's three big-@ss security guards at every door (and only two entrances). No sketchy teen with a backpack full of anything is getting past these guys.

I'm trying to figure out how an 18 yo blows into an elementary school in body armor with a backpack. Why wouldn't we start with a simple security fix??

I worry for your patients if you are this naïve. You think a gun can’t get past three “big @ss” security guards? My dear, that is the entire point of a gun- to give the weakest, flabbiest man the power to kill anyone or anything.

Ignoring your rude comment towards my patients, security guards are *but one* measure of establishing safeguards around a vulnerable population. Others include ID requirements, badge access, check in/out, etc etc. The county courthouse should not be safer than the elementary school. My point is that building security is low-hanging fruit and should be addressed while we work towards safer gun laws.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So I'm sure this has been asked and answered in this thread but I can't comb through 30 pages.

Obviously gun control is the answer here. But in lieu of actual sensible reform, why can we not secure these school buildings? I work in a hospital. It's badge in, badge out. No exceptions. There's three big-@ss security guards at every door (and only two entrances). No sketchy teen with a backpack full of anything is getting past these guys.

I'm trying to figure out how an 18 yo blows into an elementary school in body armor with a backpack. Why wouldn't we start with a simple security fix??

I’m sorry, but how stupid are you? Do you really not pay attention at all to know that these shootings keep happening even with security in place? Do you know how a gun works and why simply being a big guy does nothing to stop it?

I believe your post was well intentioned, but all you did was give more fuel to the right to avoid gun reform by claiming that you can just add more security to make schools safe from shootings.

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Anonymous wrote:So I'm sure this has been asked and answered in this thread but I can't comb through 30 pages.

Obviously gun control is the answer here. But in lieu of actual sensible reform, why can we not secure these school buildings? I work in a hospital. It's badge in, badge out. No exceptions. There's three big-@ss security guards at every door (and only two entrances). No sketchy teen with a backpack full of anything is getting past these guys.

I'm trying to figure out how an 18 yo blows into an elementary school in body armor with a backpack. Why wouldn't we start with a simple security fix??

I worry for your patients if you are this naïve. You think a gun can’t get past three “big @ss” security guards? My dear, that is the entire point of a gun- to give the weakest, flabbiest man the power to kill anyone or anything.

Ignoring your rude comment towards my patients, security guards are *but one* measure of establishing safeguards around a vulnerable population. Others include ID requirements, badge access, check in/out, etc etc. The county courthouse should not be safer than the elementary school. My point is that building security is low-hanging fruit and should be addressed while we work towards safer gun laws.

Any community that cared about protecting kids in schools did that after Sandy Hook.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So I'm sure this has been asked and answered in this thread but I can't comb through 30 pages.

Obviously gun control is the answer here. But in lieu of actual sensible reform, why can we not secure these school buildings? I work in a hospital. It's badge in, badge out. No exceptions. There's three big-@ss security guards at every door (and only two entrances). No sketchy teen with a backpack full of anything is getting past these guys.

I'm trying to figure out how an 18 yo blows into an elementary school in body armor with a backpack. Why wouldn't we start with a simple security fix??

I worry for your patients if you are this naïve. You think a gun can’t get past three “big @ss” security guards? My dear, that is the entire point of a gun- to give the weakest, flabbiest man the power to kill anyone or anything.

Ignoring your rude comment towards my patients, security guards are *but one* measure of establishing safeguards around a vulnerable population. Others include ID requirements, badge access, check in/out, etc etc. The county courthouse should not be safer than the elementary school. My point is that building security is low-hanging fruit and should be addressed while we work towards safer gun laws.

Doubling down on the stupid, I see.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing is going to change. Because this is America going backwards, slowly but surely. It IS happening.

A half naked man is going to tell me what’s what?

DP. He knows far more about what’s what than you apparently do.

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Anonymous wrote:So I'm sure this has been asked and answered in this thread but I can't comb through 30 pages.

Obviously gun control is the answer here. But in lieu of actual sensible reform, why can we not secure these school buildings? I work in a hospital. It's badge in, badge out. No exceptions. There's three big-@ss security guards at every door (and only two entrances). No sketchy teen with a backpack full of anything is getting past these guys.

I'm trying to figure out how an 18 yo blows into an elementary school in body armor with a backpack. Why wouldn't we start with a simple security fix??

I worry for your patients if you are this naïve. You think a gun can’t get past three “big @ss” security guards? My dear, that is the entire point of a gun- to give the weakest, flabbiest man the power to kill anyone or anything.

Ignoring your rude comment towards my patients, security guards are *but one* measure of establishing safeguards around a vulnerable population. Others include ID requirements, badge access, check in/out, etc etc. The county courthouse should not be safer than the elementary school. My point is that building security is low-hanging fruit and should be addressed while we work towards safer gun laws.

Any community that cared about protecting kids in schools did that after Sandy Hook.

And it didn't work. We need to address the gun problem.

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Anonymous wrote:So I'm sure this has been asked and answered in this thread but I can't comb through 30 pages.

Obviously gun control is the answer here. But in lieu of actual sensible reform, why can we not secure these school buildings? I work in a hospital. It's badge in, badge out. No exceptions. There's three big-@ss security guards at every door (and only two entrances). No sketchy teen with a backpack full of anything is getting past these guys.

I'm trying to figure out how an 18 yo blows into an elementary school in body armor with a backpack. Why wouldn't we start with a simple security fix??

I worry for your patients if you are this naïve. You think a gun can’t get past three “big @ss” security guards? My dear, that is the entire point of a gun- to give the weakest, flabbiest man the power to kill anyone or anything.

Ignoring your rude comment towards my patients, security guards are *but one* measure of establishing safeguards around a vulnerable population. Others include ID requirements, badge access, check in/out, etc etc. The county courthouse should not be safer than the elementary school. My point is that building security is low-hanging fruit and should be addressed while we work towards safer gun laws.

Really. So asking for a badge will stop this guy? The rounds from these weapons will go through walls. You can easily shoot your way in to a building. Your hospital is not secure. I noticed you ignored the post saying there was security most likely better vs your hospital but stay on this theme. Better arm yourself with something that can penetrate Kevlar vest.

So how much do you think that security guard gets paid. Do you think it is enough to protect you? What would you do in the place of the security guard?

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing is going to change. Because this is America going backwards, slowly but surely. It IS happening.

A half naked man is going to tell me what’s what?

Wasn’t Jesus just wearing a robe and no shoes?

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing is going to change. Because this is America going backwards, slowly but surely. It IS happening.

A half naked man is going to tell me what’s what?

Wasn’t Jesus just wearing a robe and no shoes?

Remember Jesus was a lib so republicans have to own him. I can see Tucker going off on him.

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Anonymous wrote:So I'm sure this has been asked and answered in this thread but I can't comb through 30 pages.

Obviously gun control is the answer here. But in lieu of actual sensible reform, why can we not secure these school buildings? I work in a hospital. It's badge in, badge out. No exceptions. There's three big-@ss security guards at every door (and only two entrances). No sketchy teen with a backpack full of anything is getting past these guys.

I'm trying to figure out how an 18 yo blows into an elementary school in body armor with a backpack. Why wouldn't we start with a simple security fix??

I worry for your patients if you are this naïve. You think a gun can’t get past three “big @ss” security guards? My dear, that is the entire point of a gun- to give the weakest, flabbiest man the power to kill anyone or anything.

Ignoring your rude comment towards my patients, security guards are *but one* measure of establishing safeguards around a vulnerable population. Others include ID requirements, badge access, check in/out, etc etc. The county courthouse should not be safer than the elementary school. My point is that building security is low-hanging fruit and should be addressed while we work towards safer gun laws.

I take it you don’t follow politics in America. If you did, then you would know that every single politician on the right seizes on comments like yours to shift focus to everything but gun reform as a solution. Comments like you make it easy for the right to say we shouldn’t even be hinting about gun reform until every teacher in every school is armed to the hilt in the name of security.

Congratulations on enabling opponents of gun reform. You must be so proud of yourself.