Another gunman, another elementary school

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was interesting to listen to The Daily's republish of their 2018 interview with a CA psychiatrist who talked about how most violence and specifically mass violence is perpetrated by men who are not diagnostically mentally ill. She caveated this by explaining that it gets into the semantics of the issue, but that the profile is usually an angry young man who has been socially isolated, bullied, has revenge fantasies and access to guns and unless we expand our definition of 'mental illness' to include those characteristics we are not going to prevent mass shootings. It made me think about how so much of the discussion is how the shooters are crazy monsters should rot in hell (it's my reaction too). Yes, my priority is keeping my children safe and I'm sick and horrified and want all the gun control changes too. But there is so little focus on the most difficult part to look in the eye: how do you prevent an innocent child - which all of these perpetrators were at one point - from turning into a school shooter in the first place? If you have a psychiatrist saying it is NOT diagnosable mental illness but rather the result of years of social isolation, bullying, anger, entitlement...how do we even begin to fix that?


One way to start is to prevent them from easy access to weapons of mass killing.

You seem to have no clue how many guns are on American streets.


It's just crazy what is allowed in this country in the name of freedom.
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I’m bumping this up because we need to keep this thread alive for those who died. Not sure if this video has already been linked up thread, but this is Angelie Gomez, the mom who was cuffed and detained. Eventually she sprinted to get her kids and helped her son’s teacher get an entire class out. She is riveting. Watch until the end. Horrifying that she was threatened if she told her story. May she and those she saved find peace.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_q7olC1LteE&pp=QAFIAw%3D%3D
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought it was interesting to listen to The Daily's republish of their 2018 interview with a CA psychiatrist who talked about how most violence and specifically mass violence is perpetrated by men who are not diagnostically mentally ill. She caveated this by explaining that it gets into the semantics of the issue, but that the profile is usually an angry young man who has been socially isolated, bullied, has revenge fantasies and access to guns and unless we expand our definition of 'mental illness' to include those characteristics we are not going to prevent mass shootings. It made me think about how so much of the discussion is how the shooters are crazy monsters should rot in hell (it's my reaction too). Yes, my priority is keeping my children safe and I'm sick and horrified and want all the gun control changes too. But there is so little focus on the most difficult part to look in the eye: how do you prevent an innocent child - which all of these perpetrators were at one point - from turning into a school shooter in the first place? If you have a psychiatrist saying it is NOT diagnosable mental illness but rather the result of years of social isolation, bullying, anger, entitlement...how do we even begin to fix that?


One way to start is to prevent them from easy access to weapons of mass killing.


Teach your children to be kind and inclusive.
Anonymous
So many Marchers yesterday!!! We need common sense gun laws!!
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought it was interesting to listen to The Daily's republish of their 2018 interview with a CA psychiatrist who talked about how most violence and specifically mass violence is perpetrated by men who are not diagnostically mentally ill. She caveated this by explaining that it gets into the semantics of the issue, but that the profile is usually an angry young man who has been socially isolated, bullied, has revenge fantasies and access to guns and unless we expand our definition of 'mental illness' to include those characteristics we are not going to prevent mass shootings. It made me think about how so much of the discussion is how the shooters are crazy monsters should rot in hell (it's my reaction too). Yes, my priority is keeping my children safe and I'm sick and horrified and want all the gun control changes too. But there is so little focus on the most difficult part to look in the eye: how do you prevent an innocent child - which all of these perpetrators were at one point - from turning into a school shooter in the first place? If you have a psychiatrist saying it is NOT diagnosable mental illness but rather the result of years of social isolation, bullying, anger, entitlement...how do we even begin to fix that?


One way to start is to prevent them from easy access to weapons of mass killing.

You seem to have no clue how many guns are on American streets.


It's just crazy what is allowed in this country in the name of freedom.[/quote ]

+1

Sure fix the angry young men. But at least start with making it illegal for them to buy AR-15; style weapons. I'm not sympathetic in the least towards responsible gun owners who might lose their rights to these things. Put on your grownup pants and get over it.
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Anonymous wrote:I am on a full blown campaign to convince DH to leave this country and move to Dubai purely for safety reasons. At least I don’t have to be afraid to go see a movie when I’m there.


Good, go away.
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Anonymous wrote:I am on a full blown campaign to convince DH to leave this country and move to Dubai purely for safety reasons. At least I don’t have to be afraid to go see a movie when I’m there.


Good, go away.

I moved overseas in 2019. There are many things I miss about America but having my kids do active shooter drills is not one of them. People from other countries look at America and shake their head at the dysfunction on this issue of gun violence.
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Anonymous wrote:I am on a full blown campaign to convince DH to leave this country and move to Dubai purely for safety reasons. At least I don’t have to be afraid to go see a movie when I’m there.


Good, go away.

I moved overseas in 2019. There are many things I miss about America but having my kids do active shooter drills is not one of them. People from other countries look at America and shake their head at the dysfunction on this issue of gun violence.


No country is perfect.
Are you aware how relatively recent it is that boys and men are expressing their emotions with guns? Just a couple of generations ago, any random public high school had range shooting training. The kids brought their own weapon to school every day.

So it obviously ain’t the guns, people. It’s HOW parents are now raising their children. It truly can’t be outsourced to people who have zero connection nor concern for your child. Many children hardly even see their parents. Maybe a rushed breakfast, dinner on-the-go, plus pandemonium weekends trying to get everything done. The notion of safeguarding the family unit is mostly gone. Our choices are having disastrous consequences. Many, if not most teens are struggling with significant depression and anxiety. Sharing this with their parents is not the norm.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So many Marchers yesterday!!! We need common sense gun laws!!

News flash!
Criminals don’t much care about your “common sense”. Just ask them, and they’ll tell you. High time to get out of your bubble.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I am on a full blown campaign to convince DH to leave this country and move to Dubai purely for safety reasons. At least I don’t have to be afraid to go see a movie when I’m there.


Good, go away.

I moved overseas in 2019. There are many things I miss about America but having my kids do active shooter drills is not one of them. People from other countries look at America and shake their head at the dysfunction on this issue of gun violence.

What did they think about open borders?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought it was interesting to listen to The Daily's republish of their 2018 interview with a CA psychiatrist who talked about how most violence and specifically mass violence is perpetrated by men who are not diagnostically mentally ill. She caveated this by explaining that it gets into the semantics of the issue, but that the profile is usually an angry young man who has been socially isolated, bullied, has revenge fantasies and access to guns and unless we expand our definition of 'mental illness' to include those characteristics we are not going to prevent mass shootings. It made me think about how so much of the discussion is how the shooters are crazy monsters should rot in hell (it's my reaction too). Yes, my priority is keeping my children safe and I'm sick and horrified and want all the gun control changes too. But there is so little focus on the most difficult part to look in the eye: how do you prevent an innocent child - which all of these perpetrators were at one point - from turning into a school shooter in the first place? If you have a psychiatrist saying it is NOT diagnosable mental illness but rather the result of years of social isolation, bullying, anger, entitlement...how do we even begin to fix that?


One way to start is to prevent them from easy access to weapons of mass killing.


Teach your children to be kind and inclusive.


Of course everyone should be kind but it is not my daughter’s responsibility to manage the feelings of the boy who acts scary or is disrespectful to her. Kids should not be made to feel responsible for the mental health of other kids.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I thought it was interesting to listen to The Daily's republish of their 2018 interview with a CA psychiatrist who talked about how most violence and specifically mass violence is perpetrated by men who are not diagnostically mentally ill. She caveated this by explaining that it gets into the semantics of the issue, but that the profile is usually an angry young man who has been socially isolated, bullied, has revenge fantasies and access to guns and unless we expand our definition of 'mental illness' to include those characteristics we are not going to prevent mass shootings. It made me think about how so much of the discussion is how the shooters are crazy monsters should rot in hell (it's my reaction too). Yes, my priority is keeping my children safe and I'm sick and horrified and want all the gun control changes too. But there is so little focus on the most difficult part to look in the eye: how do you prevent an innocent child - which all of these perpetrators were at one point - from turning into a school shooter in the first place? If you have a psychiatrist saying it is NOT diagnosable mental illness but rather the result of years of social isolation, bullying, anger, entitlement...how do we even begin to fix that?


One way to start is to prevent them from easy access to weapons of mass killing.


Teach your children to be kind and inclusive.


Of course everyone should be kind but it is not my daughter’s responsibility to manage the feelings of the boy who acts scary or is disrespectful to her. Kids should not be made to feel responsible for the mental health of other kids.

Exactly.
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Anonymous wrote:Why are libs so against armed security in a government school building?


We don’t need more useless jobs programs that suck away money from education, health care, etc. when we can just ban AR-15s.


PP before - THE ARMED SECURITY DID NOTHING.


OMG, there was no armed security.

Why did they lie and say there was?


I’d like to get facts from a neutral source. FBI?


Investigation press conference today confirmed no guard, armed or otherwise.


Who confirmed?


TX DPS Director Steve McCraw. Press conference is happening now.

I just found out today that TX DPS Director Steve McCraw had previously worked for the FBI for 20 years.

Let that sink in.

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