Another gunman, another elementary school

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Every day there are fewer and fewer reasons to want to live in America.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe it’s time for one of these families to take the path of Mamie Elizabeth Till-Mobley, and authorize the publication of a photo of what their 4th grader looked like after being shredded to pieces by high velocity semi automatic gunfire leaving the kid unrecognizable for family visual identification. When this country saw what was done to Emmit Till by white supremacist terrorists, it was a turning point. We really need a turning point on gun violence.

I agree. The media and search engines trying to over-censor everything related to these shootings (ie you have to actually search to find a photo of the shooter) doesn't help at all. This is a public event and the results of it, as tragic as they are, should be publicly available. People need to see how truly horrific these events are. It's a fact of reality that needs to be confronted instead of avoided. It's the only way forward.

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Anonymous wrote:Texas Tribune update: it’s now 18 children and 3 adults dead in Uvalde elementary school shooting

And in two days Abbott is going to speak at the NRA conference just a few hundred miles from where this happened. Apparently 18 dead children and 3 dead adults is an acceptable sacrifice for some extra campaign $$.

Where’s the conference?

Houston

So Trump, Cruz, Abbott and 55,000 NRA supporters will be at the George R. Brown Convention Center this weekend?

Yep, and anyone off the street can attend the event (if they join).

I assume firearms of all types are allowed throughout the event?

And I’m sure guns will be banned from the event.

During the 151st NRA Annual Meetings & Exhibits, personal firearms may be carried in the George R. Brown Convention Center (GRBCC) in accordance with Texas law. When carrying your firearm, always adhere to all federal, state, and local laws.

Abbot, Cruz & trump are scheduled to speak. I’ve read that at least for trump’s spot, no guns allowed.

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Anonymous wrote:Every day there are fewer and fewer reasons to want to live in America.

Hard reality - children as young as 5 work on the streets in other countries. Little girls are less favored and given up by whatever means necessary in other countries.

This is a tragedy which shouldn't happen in a developped country. But as a non-American I have to tell you, you live in a wonderful country and you have - at the moment - a wonderful president. I don't want to know what would have happened to Europe in the last few months with another American president in power.

Agreed. But America is facing death by a thousand cuts. I am grateful we have a President who tries to unite us all as Americans.

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Anonymous wrote:Texas Tribune update: it’s now 18 children and 3 adults dead in Uvalde elementary school shooting

And in two days Abbott is going to speak at the NRA conference just a few hundred miles from where this happened. Apparently 18 dead children and 3 dead adults is an acceptable sacrifice for some extra campaign $$.

Where’s the conference?

Houston

So Trump, Cruz, Abbott and 55,000 NRA supporters will be at the George R. Brown Convention Center this weekend?

Yep, and anyone off the street can attend the event (if they join).

I assume firearms of all types are allowed throughout the event?

And I’m sure guns will be banned from the event.

During the 151st NRA Annual Meetings & Exhibits, personal firearms may be carried in the George R. Brown Convention Center (GRBCC) in accordance with Texas law. When carrying your firearm, always adhere to all federal, state, and local laws.

Abbot, Cruz & trump are scheduled to speak. I’ve read that at least for trump’s spot, no guns allowed.

Source?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Maybe it’s time for one of these families to take the path of Mamie Elizabeth Till-Mobley, and authorize the publication of a photo of what their 4th grader looked like after being shredded to pieces by high velocity semi automatic gunfire leaving the kid unrecognizable for family visual identification. When this country saw what was done to Emmit Till by white supremacist terrorists, it was a turning point. We really need a turning point on gun violence.

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Anonymous wrote:Texas Tribune update: it’s now 18 children and 3 adults dead in Uvalde elementary school shooting

And in two days Abbott is going to speak at the NRA conference just a few hundred miles from where this happened. Apparently 18 dead children and 3 dead adults is an acceptable sacrifice for some extra campaign $$.

Where’s the conference?

Houston

So Trump, Cruz, Abbott and 55,000 NRA supporters will be at the George R. Brown Convention Center this weekend?

Yep, and anyone off the street can attend the event (if they join).

I assume firearms of all types are allowed throughout the event?

And I’m sure guns will be banned from the event.

During the 151st NRA Annual Meetings & Exhibits, personal firearms may be carried in the George R. Brown Convention Center (GRBCC) in accordance with Texas law. When carrying your firearm, always adhere to all federal, state, and local laws.

Abbot, Cruz & trump are scheduled to speak. I’ve read that at least for trump’s spot, no guns allowed.

Source?

use your google -- this is the first hit:
"One place you won't find guns in the wake of the Texas school massacre? The NRA's upcoming leadership conference in Houston this week"

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Anonymous wrote:Texas Tribune update: it’s now 18 children and 3 adults dead in Uvalde elementary school shooting

And in two days Abbott is going to speak at the NRA conference just a few hundred miles from where this happened. Apparently 18 dead children and 3 dead adults is an acceptable sacrifice for some extra campaign $$.

Where’s the conference?

Houston

So Trump, Cruz, Abbott and 55,000 NRA supporters will be at the George R. Brown Convention Center this weekend?

Yep, and anyone off the street can attend the event (if they join).

I assume firearms of all types are allowed throughout the event?

No they’ve announced no guns because Trump is there. What hypocrites.

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Anonymous wrote:We're at the point where school shootings don't aren't even mentioned on washingtonpsot.com or nytimes.com. I guess we've just accepted them as normal

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/24/us/shooting-robb-elementary-uvalde.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/texas-school-district-locked-down-on-reports-of-shooter/2022/05/24/3593dd02-db88-11ec-bc35-a91d0a94923b_story.html

I actually believe this is part of the strategy to no glorify the shooters.

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Anonymous wrote:After Sandy Hook, nothing surprises me anymore. Nothing. Just another day in ‘merica

Same here. It’s so awful. How many more of these can we just accept?

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Anonymous wrote:Texas Tribune update: it’s now 18 children and 3 adults dead in Uvalde elementary school shooting

And in two days Abbott is going to speak at the NRA conference just a few hundred miles from where this happened. Apparently 18 dead children and 3 dead adults is an acceptable sacrifice for some extra campaign $$.

Where’s the conference?

Houston

So Trump, Cruz, Abbott and 55,000 NRA supporters will be at the George R. Brown Convention Center this weekend?

Yep, and anyone off the street can attend the event (if they join).

I assume firearms of all types are allowed throughout the event?

And I’m sure guns will be banned from the event.

During the 151st NRA Annual Meetings & Exhibits, personal firearms may be carried in the George R. Brown Convention Center (GRBCC) in accordance with Texas law. When carrying your firearm, always adhere to all federal, state, and local laws.

Abbot, Cruz & trump are scheduled to speak. I’ve read that at least for trump’s spot, no guns allowed.

Source?

use your google -- this is the first hit:
"One place you won't find guns in the wake of the Texas school massacre? The NRA's upcoming leadership conference in Houston this week"

Funny that.

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So I'm sure this has been asked and answered in this thread but I can't comb through 30 pages.

Obviously gun control is the answer here. But in lieu of actual sensible reform, why can we not secure these school buildings? I work in a hospital. It's badge in, badge out. No exceptions. There's three big-@ss security guards at every door (and only two entrances). No sketchy teen with a backpack full of anything is getting past these guys.

I'm trying to figure out how an 18 yo blows into an elementary school in body armor with a backpack. Why wouldn't we start with a simple security fix??

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Anonymous wrote:After Sandy Hook, nothing surprises me anymore. Nothing. Just another day in ‘merica

Same here. It’s so awful. How many more of these can we just accept?

I blame McConnell, one of the most horrible human beings ever born. He could do something about it but doesn't have a pair.

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Anonymous wrote:So I'm sure this has been asked and answered in this thread but I can't comb through 30 pages.

Obviously gun control is the answer here. But in lieu of actual sensible reform, why can we not secure these school buildings? I work in a hospital. It's badge in, badge out. No exceptions. There's three big-@ss security guards at every door (and only two entrances). No sketchy teen with a backpack full of anything is getting past these guys.

I'm trying to figure out how an 18 yo blows into an elementary school in body armor with a backpack. Why wouldn't we start with a simple security fix??

All that security won’t do much when a shooter guns down the security officers with an AR-15 at the entrance.

[Anonymous]

Oh, good, they are starting in on the poor bullied boy narrative.

Listen, young men in this country are done no favors because we have few pathways for them to tame their bullshit (ahem, excuse me, their masculinity) and become productive humans worthy of being included in the community. Yes, I said it--some are simply not worthy right out of the gate and must be shaped into submission. Some cultures send adolescent males up into a mountain to kill a tiger and prove they are worth it. We let ours play video games and complain endlessly.

And spare me about the bullying over the speech impediment. People who are different get bullied because deep down even the young know that "different" people are a threat to social cohesion and the safety of the community. This is a deep, innate human feeling. We are all lucky that we have medical science to help with ailments that otherwise would have gotten you left somewhere to die.

We need to get real about this stuff. Kids like Ramos should have been sent away and whipped into shape by family and community elders by the time he was 13. And of course this kid had no father. OF COURSE.

No one will like what I am saying, but it's the truth. Spare me the BS about how he should have gone to therapy. Get real.