Jen Hatmaker
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Anonymous
| Has anyone listened to the podcast episode? |
Anonymous
Yes, it’s quite good! I actually cried when she spoke about Michelle Obama. Jen speaks about Tyler throughout the entire podcast. Her love for him seems real. |
Anonymous
| I don't think anyone one on here cares one bit that Tyler is black and Jen is white. Despite the constant shilling and the big 180 shift from a lot of her previous teaching, I think a lot of us would still like to see her straighten out and land on her feet, especially in the relationship department. Ideally with someone slightly older and more stable, more wise, and more secure than Tyler portrays himself to be. |
Anonymous
I fully agree. Most people don’t know they’re in a rebound relationship when it’s happening. It’s after the breakup and some reflection that you figure out the nature the relationship. She hasn’t dated since her teens! She was in a horrible relationship for several years before her marriage imploded. This new relationship looks strange/lopsided from the outside, but she’s energized with new feelings and happiness! Someone in her circle should have helped her tap the breaks on the book dedication. Even if this is the realest real most authentic relationship ever, she deserved to give herself one accomplishment not dedicated to a man. She went from sharing accomplishments with Brandon to sharing with Tyler. |
Anonymous
| I would love to see Jen happy with herself for a while. It’s sad that as a society we equal happiness with having a partner. Sure long term it’s nice to share your life with someone, but this woman has never been alone! |
Anonymous
and she talked about that in the podcast but her revelation was that 15 months alone taught her everything. She has no foresight. |
Anonymous
When they announced their relationship on the Glennon Doyle podcast, there were a lot of red flags. They described how they met in New York through their publicist in November 2021, followed by ~ 2 months of phone calls and texts. Remarked Tyler, "it was completely platonic." He talked about how she was reading his book and he wanted feedback on it. Then Tyler went on to say, "Jen and I, we have two very different lifestyles, that's the whole other thing. One day just casually, she drops the, 'What is this?' She went, 'Hi so what's going on? I want to be very clear. Do you talk to everyone like this?' " Tyler's response: "What I said was give it some time. I'm for real you all, I was like, 'Can I have a minute?' " Yikes. So she clearly was feeling attraction to him during those two months of long phone calls, yet he seemed completely caught off guard by her question and asked "for a minute" to respond. RED FLAG. He had just remarked that it was "completely platonic" to him. This isn't a story of two people falling hard for each other. Then Tyler quickly added, "Out of respect to Jen, it was only about 24 hours" before he responded. He then added, "I came back to her and it got real technical. Listen, it got real clinical. I came to her and I was like, "Okay, I feel like I may have some feelings for you. All right, there's a couple of things you're going to need to understand. My best friend is a girl, the person who I spend 98% of my time I'm with is another single woman who is my ride or die, and so you just need to know this, and coming into this that's not going to change because that's my best friend. I'm surrounded by a ton of women." ^^ Red Flags again! Bright RED. But no, she gushed how this was the best thing ever. It just came across so desperate and one-sided, and there are continued examples of this dynamic in their public interactions since. It seems like a lopsided relationship in which she is more invested emotionally than he is. He probably benefits by piggy-backing on all her social media followers. Of course, none of us really know the truth of their relationship. But we know the truth of his words during the "big reveal" that felt very lukewarm, clinical and contractual, not like a man in love. She was driving it, not him. We also know that he is a 45 year old never-married man who told her that his best friend and women friends come ahead of her, and he wants her to know she's not going to get in the way of that. That doesn't bode well for their relationship. During the podcast he also said, "I am so okay with anybody thinking I'm gay and she knows I'm super gay on paper." The whole thing just felt incredibly contrived and full of warning signs. Sometimes he has a snarky, dismissive tone with her while she gushes in return. I'm not sure she understands what a healthy relationship is. |
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So you're in the early days of a relationship, giddy feelings of infatuation and excitement. And then you tell the guy you've got feelings for him and ask where he stands, if the feeling is mutual...
His response? "Let me get back to you." And then when he responds, one of the most important points he wants to make to you is that another woman, his "ride or die" best friend is way more important and you'd better know that. I'd be so out of there. |
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https://momastery.com/blog/we-can-do-hard-things-ep-87/ Tyler Merritt: I text my publicist and said, “Hey, I know you’re leaving New York, but I’m coming in.” She said, “Jen Hatmaker is here.” I was like, “Cool. I don’t really know Jen, but I’m there by myself, if she wants to kick it while the night she’s there.” I had my friend Sarah, who’s on my team basically give me a quick update of all things, Jen Hatmaker. Then we met at our little bar thing and it was so platonic. Glennon Doyle:It was platonic in your intention when you went, but how, that first night when you sat and talked for a little bit, did you feel the sparky butterflies? What was your experience of Jen, that night when you were sitting at that table? Tyler Merritt: I walked into this bar thing and she was there in all of her hotness. I think you had a black leather jacket or something, she was just dope. I went in from like, “I’m trying to get to go see the show.” Into suddenly, I put on a little swag. I was like, “What’s up though? What’s up Jen Hatmaker.” Real talk though, listen, I’m a 45 year old bachelor, I wasn’t even thinking anything about that. Tyler Merritt: Right. This is what happened y’all, I was there for three more days. I was going to go see Hamilton, a show she loves that I wasn’t aware at the time and loves and I’m like, “Yo, I’m going to go see Hamilton tomorrow with great seats. I’m going to go do all these things.” I was like, “Look, if you don’t have anything to do, I’m by myself, stick around.” And she was like, “No.” I was- 1. He had his publicist do intel but he's also admitted that he had reached out to her in the past via instagram so he was familiar with her and I'm sure their publicist talked about her. But in the intro, he emphasizes how platonic (perhaps business-related his intentions were?) 2. He disrespects her choice to leave NYC on schedule--she had kids at home but since he's a selfish manbaby, he wanted her to stay and play. Jen Hatmaker: We hadn’t been seated for two minutes and a mom and a daughter come walking past this, and he’s like, “Whoa! You look good. I like this outfit.” I was like, “That’s sweet.” It was just a mom in her 50s. Tyler Merritt:What had happened is she had on some red leather pants or something.I dressed women for a while. She walked up and I was like, “Yo, those pants are fire.” Then what you did Jen, is you didn’t just sit back and go, “Well, let me just watch Tyler do this.” You jumped into and were like, “Those are amazing. What are you guys doing tonight?” And that was again, I looked over at you like, “Are we seeing people together right now? Is this what we’re doing?” -This was also probably her needing to insert herself in the compliment and take over the convo fro the attention Tyler Merritt: Because if there was a definitive question of who started what with who, I would probably say it was the phone call is what started the whole thing, and the phone call was Jen’s idea.We had been texting and it was completely platonic, it was all good. She got to chapter seven in my book and I wanted some intel on her about that chapter. I’m thinking she’s a writer, she’ll text and she texts me and she goes, “Hey, can you talk?” I text her back and I said, “On the phone?” I only talk to my mom on the phone. --So embarrassing how he goes out of his way for people to know that she pursued him, that he didn't reciprocate and even mentions he just wanted help on his book but she NEEDED a call. And he emphasized how he didn't want to talk Jen Hatmaker: Tyler texts me, he’s like, “I sent you something.” It should be there tomorrow or whatever.” I was out of town and I’m like, “Okay, I’ll see it when I get back.” I get back and he has sent me this… I do not know how to describe this, but it’s a big box of gold preserved roses. This is a thing I didn’t know. He’s like, “This is for your bougie Christmas.” They were gorgeous. They’re over the top gorgeous. I’m like, “These are so pretty.” Tyler Merritt:Okay. I’m 45, single with no kids, which it means… this is what this means, and I do pretty okay for myself. It’s just me, I have no kid. I don’t have anything else except just stuff, and so she posts this thing and she has this tree that basically matches these flowers. I know because I had sent my mom some, I see this thing and I think to myself, “Yo, I’m going to send these over to, Jen.” I send them to her, I was just like, “This post is cool. And how fun is it going to be for her to have this bougie Christmas that she wrote a whole thing about and open up these roses and be like, “I’m going to put these over here.” I’ll be honest with you in my mind, I’m keeping… this is 100. In my mind I’m thinking, “Jen has 12 dudes that send her things and people send her things all the time.” At that period of time, I already had friends in my life then who were being like, “You talk about Jen a lot. Are you guys something?” And I said, “No, she’s just my homie. She’s cool is all, get out.” But I’m- --He just cannot admit or own his own mixed signals. He's trying to deny that sending someone $500 flowers (without a relationship status defined at the time) is normal? Or he's trying to posture that he's so rich and has so much disposable income since he's not a parent that he can just mail someone $500 flowers. Tyler Merritt:She’s right though. We had had a lot of communication. I slowly started to fall for Jen, and then she sped it up immediately. Because I didn’t even really know I was really falling for her, I just knew we talked a lot, we were joking a lot. What should have given me the clue is I don’t text that much with anybody except people in my immediate circle, but here she is over in Texas and we just got along so well, it just seemed so natural. We started getting a little flirty, but even then it was like, as a single dude, flirty is not weird. Then one day she just made shit real, Glennon. She made it real. Tyler Merritt: One day just casually, she drops the, “What is this?” She put it in the form of a text. She went, “Hi, so what’s going on? I want to be very clear. Do you talk to everybody like this? I need to go down line and define this exactly.” Tyler Merritt: What I said was give some time. I’m for real you all, I was like, “Can I have a minute?” “Can I have a minute, because this just got real immediately.” 20 minutes ago you were like, “How’s your day?” And now you’re like, “Can you define this please?” Abby Wambach: How long did the minute last? Tyler Merritt: Out of respect for Jen, it was only about 24 hours. I came back to her and it got real technical. Listen, it got real clinical. I came to her and I was like, “Okay. I feel like I may have some feelings for you.” “Here’s the situation, my life is very complicated. I have been a bachelor for a very long time so I need to figure out what it would even look like for me to be in a relationship with somebody. And if you have patience with me to see what that would look like, then we can investigate.” I was just so transparent with her. I wasn’t trying to- Jen Hatmaker: Yeah, it’s like a business meeting. It’s true because the two of us each have a whole life- --This is so embarrassing to discuss. More red flags Tyler Merritt: I was very clear on being like, “I have a history of not trusting women. I have a history of dogging people so that I could protect myself.” I knew I was stepping into something with somebody who was whole and I needed her to know that she was safe. That piece, that’s where the negotiations began where I was like, “All right, there’s a couple things you’re going to understand. My best friend is a girl. The person who I spend 98% of my time I’m with is another single woman who is my ride or die, and so you just need to know this and coming into this that that’s not going to change because that’s my best friend. I’m surrounded by a ton of women.” There’s a song in the musical called Take Me Or Leave Me where there’s a character saying like, “This is just who I am. I’m going to always have these people around me. If you can roll with that, then we’re going to be okay, but you’re just going to have to know it.” I came to Jen and was like, “Yo, I just got to keep it 100 with you. Give me a little bit to get my situation straight. Let me talk to the people that are in my life, and if we’re going to do it, let’s do it. But before you step into this, I need you to know that this is a safe place.” Then we started to walk from there, and it switched. |
Anonymous
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Thank you for that reminder. I think this podcast was the first time that Tyler acknowledged Jen on his instagram. Funnily enough, when I first listened to the podcast, I thought they were way too over the top lovey dovey for people who had just started dating but reading them now, Tyler’s words seem pretty cold and detached.
I’ll admit that I’m slightly culturally backwards and biased in that I don’t even feel completely comfortable with my boyfriends having close female friends period. But there’s no way in hell that I’d date a man who spent 98% of his time with another woman, refuses to change that for me AND needs that other women’s permission to even date me. Again, I know I’m not the most progressive person but that’s gotta be multiple red flags right there. Interestingly, in Jen’s latest podcast, she says that their lives are completely intertwined including friends and family. I don’t believe it at all. Maybe she’s met Tyler’s people once or twice but I doubt there’s much connection beyond that. |
Anonymous
| Why is the sound quality in her podcast so terrible? It doesn’t even sound remotely professional. |
Anonymous
| Man today is rough. It’s her wedding anniversary AND coincidentally it’s Tina’s birthday with a gushing post from Brandon. |
Anonymous
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What’s up w Tyler’s tributes to old white ppl
Queen Elizabeth Betty white Barbara Walters Angela Lansbury Leslie Jordan Loretta Lynne Taylor Hawkins Steven Sondheim His posts about heather locklear, Adele and Megan Espinosa For an anti racist activist, he features way more white ppl than black. It’s all so odd |
Anonymous
Rough for whom? Not Jen! She is healed and whole. She did all the hard work. This is her 3rd post-split anniversary date. Her second in a “new relationship” situation. She probably didn’t even notice the date. She’s too busy getting ready to podcast about sex. So moved on. In love. Thriving. Did I mention whole? And allllll the hard work, done? 😜🙄 For real though…birthday/anniversary coincidence is unfortunate. Does anyone know if Jen/Tina have ever met in person and how that went, if so? What about Brandon/Tyler? If Tyler/Jen are indeed intertwined, then surely he knows her baby-daddy…if not, WHY not? |
Anonymous
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Why does Tyler think people want his commentary on.every.single.thing? “OMG! Someone famous died! I get to wax poetically even though this person didn’t impact my life in any way! I didn’t even know she broke glass ceilings! But I’m gonna post about it!”
Just cool your social media thirst for middle aged white ladies liking your posts. |