Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Blake totally is the dominant person in interviews, which is why her interviews with Anna Kendrick fascinated me because it’s like she’s brought to heel by an even more dominant personality and ends up ceding control of the conversation to her.

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Anonymous wrote:If I was her and feeling uncomfortable and harassed and in conflict with the director or I was him feeling like someone was unfairly accusing me of things and trying to take over my movie, there is no way I could act out intimate love scenes with someone.

Obviously I am not an actor but I just couldn’t do it. I couldn’t put all my real life feelings aside and act out a love story or be physically affectionate.

Agree with this. A major takeaway for me here is that being a Hollywood actor and working on movies like this is actually kind of a crap job. You probably have so little control over who you wind up working with and it's crazy how these two clearly just never saw eye to eye or liked each other but still had to spend months faking a love affair on camera.

Never been more grateful for my boring white collar job where I never, ever have to kiss anyone for work, much less a colleague I find incredibly annoying. #blessed

It seems like not getting along on set is not all that uncommon. I think a lot of actresses could just buckle down and do it and it’s not that big of a deal. Blake seems to not takes acting all that seriously so maybe it was harder. She’s got five other businesses or whatever. She seemed more interested in the costumes and the premier and her hair stuff.

That said, it is rumored that 2 actresses on The Good Wife - the lead actress and the woman who played the investigator - couldn’t stand to be in the same room. So it happens.

The Good Wife drama between the Wife and the Investigator - they hated each other so much that the Wife insisted they should film their last scene together — where they sit side by side in a bar together and talk — separately and CGI it together. Good times.

I will say that if I had to deal with what I considered to be intrusively overfamiliar and sexual behavior from a director/actor (he unexpectedly turned a slow dancing scene into a kissing assault, hired his bro friend to play catcher at the foot of my spread open vagina during the delivery scene, and showed up in my trailer against my wishes when I was indisposed), I would think the person who advised me that I “just needed to buckle down” didn’t really understand my situation and didn’t really care.

Well that he was shot at the beginning of the movie so I don’t think even all those things had happened yet. It was May 2023 and that’s when they had started shooting. I’m sure a few of those things that happen but not the whole list.

But you’re right, I don’t have a lot of sympathy because I think she didn’t get along with her coaster and then tried to take the movie from him. We wouldn’t even be seeing that scene if our team had known that there was audio. She thought she could lie about a few things or exaggerate. The whole it smells good was so absolutely ridiculous I can’t even believe we’re still talking about it.

One thing we haven’t talked about in the scene is when he tells her she and Ryan are cute and she says we’re more than cute. What the hell does that even mean? I think she feels condescended to by him, which is fair, but it’s just such a smug, power move. We get it, you have a lot of power, you’re eventually going take this movie from this guy. It’s clear of their intent from the start.

I don’t think you are understanding the conversation. “That’s cute” in the tone he used is kind of a smarmy insult. He doesn’t say “oh that’s lovely” or “fun!” or even “that’s too much work for me!” Or whatever, but “That’s cute” in THAT tone. It’s an insult and a power move in itself. Urban dictionary agrees. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=That%27s%20Cute

Have you never been told “that’s cute” by someone, in a tone, who clearly means the opposite?

Look at your overreactive judginess of her follow up when you seem to think “that’s cute” in this context is a compliment and don’t even understand wtf is going on. smdh

“Fun!” would get me way more than “that’s cute.” I can’t think of any response that wouldn’t sound patronizing here—because he clearly thinks she needs to be treated with kid gloves and he probably is humoring her. He tries a curt “it’s cute” first, and then when that’s not enough, he has to fully kiss her a** by upgrading to “that’s amazing!”

It’s the same reason why “it smells nice” wasn’t creepy. He doesn’t even like her. He is trying to do his job and then get out of there.

+1 he’s just trying to appease her and get the scene done. She sounds difficult.

He can’t win. If he’s more acting the tough director then it’s a hostile work environment and if he’s trying to tamp it down and placate her he is being condescending and running a bad set.

This scene was shot in May 2023. They had not been working together that long. Unless we’re going to find out in the first few days of the shoot he groped her or ogled her or screamed at her, I’m just not sure why the relationship would be that bad. There just wasn’t time for a lot of the incidents that she laid out to even happen yet. She seemed like she was laying the stakes down from the start and making it clear who was calling the shots.

And in her defense, it is likely to get her to do this movie they promised her some creative control. I’m sure he told her he was collaborative and wanted her input. I mean from the start they let her do the wardrobe. She was a producer from the start, even though she was not an executive producer. I’m sure that caused issues but but it seemed like a reasonable thing to do.

They did not have a clear delineation of power. I think that’s why we’re here.

I’m sure she was promised creative input, but then she took that further than he wanted her to. In the end, he rolled over and let her win (he was probably pretty freaked out about her list of demands and their implications), but she was already mad (for all the times she felt condescended to). And I’m sure she believed RR got more creative control of DP3 because he’s a man.

Then, of course, she blamed him for the bad publicity, and she was like, it’s on.

I noted her previous interviews earlier. One thing that stood out to me is that she’s not necessarily mean or anything (only sometimes), but she is really controlling; she likes to turn into the interviewer. She almost always starts asking the interviewer questions and they struggle to regain control. She’s a ball buster, like she said.

All of this AND he is responsible for the bad publicity. He had his PR team go nuclear and they did a great job of it. He’s not an angel here.

No, BL started the bad publicity when she undermined him as the movie was being released. She’s very lucky the movie earned more money than it deserved, because her actions were extremely irresponsible and unprofessional.

They probably both acted terrible. She took control of the movie, banned him from the premier and embarrassed him. He fought back.

But then it was pretty much over. This thread had died down. Nobody was talking about it ends with with us. Ryan Blake we’re back to their pap walks. She had gotten a lot of bad publicity, but she also had one of the most successful movies of the summer and certainly her career. You win some lose some. This was all dying down in the public would have moved on.

The New York Times article was scorched earth. It was a total me too moment that would’ve obliterated his career, there’s just no question. I just don’t know why they weren’t better prepared for it or what they were expecting to happen after that.

Because they’re literally imbeciles. They have no education, no degrees. They’re just arrogant power drunk narcissistic nitwits.

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Anonymous wrote:Blake totally is the dominant person in interviews, which is why her interviews with Anna Kendrick fascinated me because it’s like she’s brought to heel by an even more dominant personality and ends up ceding control of the conversation to her.

I don't know if dominance is the word for interviews with Anna Kenderick. Anna it's quicker witted and comes off as more intelligent. It's like Blake can't keep up

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This tik tok is a perfect explanation of the annoying Blske Lively and Ryan Reynolds "couple goals" media campaign.

https://www.reddit.com/r/blakelivelysnark/comments/1i9fapa/blake_and_ryans_couple_humor/

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Anonymous wrote:Blake totally is the dominant person in interviews, which is why her interviews with Anna Kendrick fascinated me because it’s like she’s brought to heel by an even more dominant personality and ends up ceding control of the conversation to her.

I don't know if dominance is the word for interviews with Anna Kenderick. Anna it's quicker witted and comes off as more intelligent. It's like Blake can't keep up

I agree with this. I don't like Anna or Blake, but Anna has the edge in interviews because she's smarter. Blake is aggressive but falls apart if challenged, she can't roll with it in a way that Anna is capable of.

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Anonymous wrote:What gets me is something else Blake lied about in her complaint that I don’t see being discussed: the fact that she tries to bolster her point by saying Justin was being creepy because he was not supposed to be talking at all. She’s the one who says they should be talking.

I understand victims’ recollections are imperfect but the inaccuracy is so odd. I feel like if she were talking to get him to stop being physical she would have remembered the psychology behind her actions at the time.

We see the footage from the takes but not what happens before or in between.

According to Baldoni, Lively wanted the characters to be talking to each other in the scene, which she thought would be more reflective of what it would look like for the characters to fall in love. The footage he's released shows three long takes. In the first, Lively is talking a lot and you hear her talking specifically about this, how she thinks it makes sense for the characters and will help the audience understand how her character winds up with a guy who has a lot of red flags, if they are seen connecting via talking.

However in the subsequent two takes shown in the footage, Lively is talking significantly less, and is doing more of what Baldoni seems to have wanted, which is to look at each other and be affectionate. She still talks some, but not nearly as much as in the first take.

The moment in question, where he says "it smells good", happens in the third and last take, which is also the one where Lively is speaking the least. In fact Baldoni is the one who initiates the conversation where it happens, saying "I'm probably getting my beard all over you," prompting Lively to say, "I'm probably getting spray tan all over you," which is when Baldoni says, "it smells good."

Based on Baldoni's own account, it seems highly likely that Lively was given the direction NOT to talk during filming so that they could get shots of the two not talking. So for him to then initiate a not-in-character conversation after telling her not to talk, and not only that but to say something that would be inappropriate for him to say while not in character, would be extra frustrating. Lively's not allowed to talk but he is? I think the conflict here is very much related to what was obviously a power struggle between the two of them and this is an instance where Livley lost the power struggle and felt he took advantage of that.

Except Blake was given a chance to respond to the footage’s release and didn’t say any of this which would have bolstered what she initially said. She goes with the contradictory psychological argument.

They issued a statement, it's not like we saw Lively speak at length about the shoot. And I'm not saying this is exactly what happened, just nothing that footage does not actually show us everything that happened and we don't know what was said between takes. At the point in the footage where Baldoni says the thing that Lively took issue with, she is really not talking much at all.

But this is why it makes more sense to look at evidence via normal discovery instead of releasing it in dribs and drabs to the press. In discovery you could depose Lively or get a statement from her on the footage Baldoni has released. You could also depose Baldoni or, usefully, one of the other people on the set who might have a less biased account of what happened. You could get to the truth of what happened. But releasing footage that shows us some but not all of what happened on the set that day does not help us get to the truth. It forces us to guess. There is no reason to guess -- people actually do know what happened and this footage is one piece, though incomplete, of the picture.

“Normal discovery”? are you under the impression that DCUM is a court of law? lol.

PPs comments make sense in the context of Lively's request to the court that Baldoni stop releasing prejudicial info from the set in bits in ways that benefit him. Aren't you guys supporting Baldoni all attorneys who would know this lol, what's going on?

yeah her frivolous protective motion. The idea that there’s some kind of “normal discovery” that Baldoni is violating is just silly and uninformed. it takes a lot to get a gag order imposed, and there is no default “normal” discovery that gags litigants. For very good reasons!

You sound crazy.

This is a high profile case where both sides are claiming that the PR activities of the other side has damaged their public reputations, and both work in a field where public perception of them is worth a lot of $$$. So it's actually a good candidate for a protective order that limits what they can release to the press until discovery proceedings, at least, are finished. It likely wouldn't restrict their ability to talk to the press, but could limit their ability to release evidence to the press prior to disclosing it to all parties in litigation.

This is not typical litigation because of the high profile of the litigants and the unusually high interest in proceedings even in this early evidentiary stage. I'd put it at 50/50 odds they get a protective order, maybe even a bit higher. Whereas in a regular case with non-famous litigants I would view the gag order motion as frivolous. In this case it makes sense and would be surprised if Lively's team didn't file for one given how Baldoni's team is approaching the situation with this website and constantly teasing the press that he has more evidence to share.

A protective order and a gag order are not the same thing. A typical protective order would not prohibit a party from releasing their own documents or film, it would limit how they could use discovery produced by the other party. She wants a gag order, which would require a different show uc,

+1. protective order is standard and applies to confidential info provided in discovery. I don’t think it applies to docs the litigants have on their own. Gag order is much more unusual and I don’t see the justification here - although that doesn’t mean she won’t get it.

Again. Lively has specifically requested a protective order. It is being referred to as a "gag order" in the media.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2025/01/22/blake-lively-ryan-reynolds-gag-order-justin-baldoni/77888098007/

Seriously there are some serious reading comprehension problems here. I thought all of these Baldoni supporters were experienced attorneys, even in harassment cases, yet somehow the concept of asking the court to impose a protective order limiting what materials Ps can release is flummoxing them.

The term “protective order” is used differently in various courts. This isn’t some gotcha. Some of you are acting like a bunch of first year students showing off your newly learned legal jargon.

But it’s you guys (the Baldoni Bros) who are the ones saying “gotcha” to the Po who is just patiently explaining to you WTF IS GOING ON and you keep telling her she is so dumb because … oh wait turns out it was your own failure to comprehend what is up. So yeah this is a gotcha. Consider yourself got. Read harder next time.

The fact that you called me a “Baldoni Bro” for correcting the lawyers who are being pedantic says a lot about you. And it is not good.

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Anonymous wrote:This tik tok is a perfect explanation of the annoying Blske Lively and Ryan Reynolds "couple goals" media campaign.

https://www.reddit.com/r/blakelivelysnark/comments/1i9fapa/blake_and_ryans_couple_humor/

https://www.reddit.com/r/blakelivelysnark/s/M4PiXoiVEf

This comment is close to my theory. I don't think she had an affair but I do think she liked his support and energy

[Anonymous]

"Ryan says an interview that thought he would die for Blake before they had kids but after kids he knew he would use Blake as a human shield to save his kids. People laugh but it is odd to consistently say things like this."

Yikes

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Ryan says an interview that thought he would die for Blake before they had kids but after kids he knew he would use Blake as a human shield to save his kids. People laugh but it is odd to consistently say things like this."

Yikes

First thing he’s said I relate to

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Anonymous wrote:"Ryan says an interview that thought he would die for Blake before they had kids but after kids he knew he would use Blake as a human shield to save his kids. People laugh but it is odd to consistently say things like this."

Yikes

Ryan and Blake both share a sense of "humor" that is often pretty mean and funny only to them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This tik tok is a perfect explanation of the annoying Blske Lively and Ryan Reynolds "couple goals" media campaign.

https://www.reddit.com/r/blakelivelysnark/comments/1i9fapa/blake_and_ryans_couple_humor/

The simplest explanation: He's a stereotypical snarky gay man and their marriage was arranged by Hollywood talent managers.

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Anonymous wrote:"Ryan says an interview that thought he would die for Blake before they had kids but after kids he knew he would use Blake as a human shield to save his kids. People laugh but it is odd to consistently say things like this."

Yikes

IDK. I get this. He's joking but kids change your life and everything you ever thought you cared about.

[Anonymous]

The whole Ryan took over because he was jealous theory is gaining traction.

I have harped on this a few times in this thread but I can’t let it go - the detail that Justin was in their apartment at least twice to talk about this film at the same time they weren’t getting along? It just made no sense.

Now I’m thinking it was a power move by Ryan. Summoning Justin to his tribeca penthouse.

I feel sorry for Blake. Not that’s she free of culpability but I don’t wish RR on any woman. Ugh. Poor Justin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Ryan says an interview that thought he would die for Blake before they had kids but after kids he knew he would use Blake as a human shield to save his kids. People laugh but it is odd to consistently say things like this."

Yikes

What do you think gay men like Anderson Cooper and Andy Cohen would say about the women who birthed their kids? They don't love those women, they don't care if they disappear. And hypothetically, if during labor their were complications, they wouldn't hesitate to choose to sacrifice the woman to save the baby. Now you can better understand Ryan's POV and "joke."

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Anonymous wrote:This tik tok is a perfect explanation of the annoying Blske Lively and Ryan Reynolds "couple goals" media campaign.

https://www.reddit.com/r/blakelivelysnark/comments/1i9fapa/blake_and_ryans_couple_humor/

https://www.reddit.com/r/blakelivelysnark/s/M4PiXoiVEf

This comment is close to my theory. I don't think she had an affair but I do think she liked his support and energy

I'm not sure that's quite my own theory but I do think the constant, friendly banter through what looks like constant text messaging plus all the other texts between Baldoni and the other cast members makes this theory more compelling to me than that ahe was targeted and harassed.