Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote:If I was her and feeling uncomfortable and harassed and in conflict with the director or I was him feeling like someone was unfairly accusing me of things and trying to take over my movie, there is no way I could act out intimate love scenes with someone.

Obviously I am not an actor but I just couldn’t do it. I couldn’t put all my real life feelings aside and act out a love story or be physically affectionate.

Agree with this. A major takeaway for me here is that being a Hollywood actor and working on movies like this is actually kind of a crap job. You probably have so little control over who you wind up working with and it's crazy how these two clearly just never saw eye to eye or liked each other but still had to spend months faking a love affair on camera.

Never been more grateful for my boring white collar job where I never, ever have to kiss anyone for work, much less a colleague I find incredibly annoying. #blessed

It seems like not getting along on set is not all that uncommon. I think a lot of actresses could just buckle down and do it and it’s not that big of a deal. Blake seems to not takes acting all that seriously so maybe it was harder. She’s got five other businesses or whatever. She seemed more interested in the costumes and the premier and her hair stuff.

That said, it is rumored that 2 actresses on The Good Wife - the lead actress and the woman who played the investigator - couldn’t stand to be in the same room. So it happens.

The Good Wife drama between the Wife and the Investigator - they hated each other so much that the Wife insisted they should film their last scene together — where they sit side by side in a bar together and talk — separately and CGI it together. Good times.

I will say that if I had to deal with what I considered to be intrusively overfamiliar and sexual behavior from a director/actor (he unexpectedly turned a slow dancing scene into a kissing assault, hired his bro friend to play catcher at the foot of my spread open vagina during the delivery scene, and showed up in my trailer against my wishes when I was indisposed), I would think the person who advised me that I “just needed to buckle down” didn’t really understand my situation and didn’t really care.

Well that he was shot at the beginning of the movie so I don’t think even all those things had happened yet. It was May 2023 and that’s when they had started shooting. I’m sure a few of those things that happen but not the whole list.

But you’re right, I don’t have a lot of sympathy because I think she didn’t get along with her coaster and then tried to take the movie from him. We wouldn’t even be seeing that scene if our team had known that there was audio. She thought she could lie about a few things or exaggerate. The whole it smells good was so absolutely ridiculous I can’t even believe we’re still talking about it.

One thing we haven’t talked about in the scene is when he tells her she and Ryan are cute and she says we’re more than cute. What the hell does that even mean? I think she feels condescended to by him, which is fair, but it’s just such a smug, power move. We get it, you have a lot of power, you’re eventually going take this movie from this guy. It’s clear of their intent from the start.

I don’t think you are understanding the conversation. “That’s cute” in the tone he used is kind of a smarmy insult. He doesn’t say “oh that’s lovely” or “fun!” or even “that’s too much work for me!” Or whatever, but “That’s cute” in THAT tone. It’s an insult and a power move in itself. Urban dictionary agrees. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=That%27s%20Cute

Have you never been told “that’s cute” by someone, in a tone, who clearly means the opposite?

Look at your overreactive judginess of her follow up when you seem to think “that’s cute” in this context is a compliment and don’t even understand wtf is going on. smdh

“Fun!” would get me way more than “that’s cute.” I can’t think of any response that wouldn’t sound patronizing here—because he clearly thinks she needs to be treated with kid gloves and he probably is humoring her. He tries a curt “it’s cute” first, and then when that’s not enough, he has to fully kiss her a** by upgrading to “that’s amazing!”

It’s the same reason why “it smells nice” wasn’t creepy. He doesn’t even like her. He is trying to do his job and then get out of there.

+1 he’s just trying to appease her and get the scene done. She sounds difficult.

He can’t win. If he’s more acting the tough director then it’s a hostile work environment and if he’s trying to tamp it down and placate her he is being condescending and running a bad set.

This scene was shot in May 2023. They had not been working together that long. Unless we’re going to find out in the first few days of the shoot he groped her or ogled her or screamed at her, I’m just not sure why the relationship would be that bad. There just wasn’t time for a lot of the incidents that she laid out to even happen yet. She seemed like she was laying the stakes down from the start and making it clear who was calling the shots.

And in her defense, it is likely to get her to do this movie they promised her some creative control. I’m sure he told her he was collaborative and wanted her input. I mean from the start they let her do the wardrobe. She was a producer from the start, even though she was not an executive producer. I’m sure that caused issues but but it seemed like a reasonable thing to do.

They did not have a clear delineation of power. I think that’s why we’re here.

I’m sure she was promised creative input, but then she took that further than he wanted her to. In the end, he rolled over and let her win (he was probably pretty freaked out about her list of demands and their implications), but she was already mad (for all the times she felt condescended to). And I’m sure she believed RR got more creative control of DP3 because he’s a man.

Then, of course, she blamed him for the bad publicity, and she was like, it’s on.

I noted her previous interviews earlier. One thing that stood out to me is that she’s not necessarily mean or anything (only sometimes), but she is really controlling; she likes to turn into the interviewer. She almost always starts asking the interviewer questions and they struggle to regain control. She’s a ball buster, like she said.

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I think Blake and Ryan are narcissists who are shocked and unable to believe the public does not like them. So they blame justin. They may actually believe this is all his fault. They aren’t used to not getting their way and don’t have the capability of seeing that they are the a-holes.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone seen this “tea” that Justin baldoni’s rights to the sequel came with a morality clause, so Colleen Hoover can get the rights back if he violates it by doing something like sexual harassment? It sounds very conspiracy theory-ish but while we’re here…

Oooh this is interesting.

Maybe BL wants the rights to the sequel of the film she took over. And this is the way to 1) destroy Baldoni and 2) buy
the rights. Also makes the legal action make more sense.

Will be interested in seeing how this plays out in court.

The question is who wants to see a sequel. This has been more than enough of the Lilly Blossom Bloom character for a lifetime and Hoover's writing sucks.

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If I’m trying to be sympathetic to Blake, I think it’s clear she is insecure. Maybe that’s not in general but this was a period in her life when she was feeling insecure….about doing a movie postpartum, which I think we all get in and sympathize with, and then there’s a history where she’s been dismissed and I think she really pushed back when he was going on about how passionate she was but wasn’t taking her input. I totally get that. I think it would be hard to be close with Ryan Reynolds and Taylor who have had ridiculous success in creative pursuit. I hope she’s not comparing, she’s a mom of 4 and she’s been focused on other things.

But anyway, I think it’s pretty clear that was her mindset. I also think this was a really big opportunity for her, in her eyes. This was the first time she was a producer, and they let her have control over wardrobe, which would’ve been exciting. I’m sure Justin even is a fake feminist he said all the things about warning her input as a female blah blah blah.

So this was tough she was going through a really insecure time. On another hand. She was probably feeling like this was a great opportunity. Then, through no one‘s control, the fans picked up on early shots of the movie and were very cruel. I’m sure a lot of actors wish we could go back to 10 years ago when social media was not nearly as present and they could shoot a film in peace. I think people were pissed that they aged Lily up, even though it was the right thing to do for the movie.

That’s really not Blake or Justin‘s fault. I but it caused tension. People keep saying he didn’t handle it well, but in what world would Blake handle that well with all that she had going on her head? I don’t buy for a minute that she handled that maturely. I think things went really dark at that time and it spun out of control.

I feel very uncomfortable saying that she made up sexual harassment, or that she was oversensitive, but just given everything that I’ve seen, I just can’t believe it wasn’t some of that. It’s possible that she wanted all the dailies because she was just obsessed with how she looked or how she was coming off.

I imagine as a director and producers that’s really hard to deal with. I mean, how do you talk someone down from that. I don’t think she had a lot of trust or support, but I think someone from her team could’ve said, Blake everyone wants this movie to win. Everyone wants you to look good in this movie.

Maybe Ryan got in her head. I don’t know.

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Anonymous wrote:Has anyone seen this “tea” that Justin baldoni’s rights to the sequel came with a morality clause, so Colleen Hoover can get the rights back if he violates it by doing something like sexual harassment? It sounds very conspiracy theory-ish but while we’re here…

Oooh this is interesting.

Maybe BL wants the rights to the sequel of the film she took over. And this is the way to 1) destroy Baldoni and 2) buy
the rights. Also makes the legal action make more sense.

Will be interested in seeing how this plays out in court.

The question is who wants to see a sequel. This has been more than enough of the Lilly Blossom Bloom character for a lifetime and Hoover's writing sucks.

Is one of Justin's complaints tortious interference with his rights to TEWU and is sequels? Blake and Rysn definitely did some damage / intentional interference with contract by making everyone sick of the film and now there's zero interest in a sequel

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Anonymous wrote:If I was her and feeling uncomfortable and harassed and in conflict with the director or I was him feeling like someone was unfairly accusing me of things and trying to take over my movie, there is no way I could act out intimate love scenes with someone.

Obviously I am not an actor but I just couldn’t do it. I couldn’t put all my real life feelings aside and act out a love story or be physically affectionate.

Agree with this. A major takeaway for me here is that being a Hollywood actor and working on movies like this is actually kind of a crap job. You probably have so little control over who you wind up working with and it's crazy how these two clearly just never saw eye to eye or liked each other but still had to spend months faking a love affair on camera.

Never been more grateful for my boring white collar job where I never, ever have to kiss anyone for work, much less a colleague I find incredibly annoying. #blessed

It seems like not getting along on set is not all that uncommon. I think a lot of actresses could just buckle down and do it and it’s not that big of a deal. Blake seems to not takes acting all that seriously so maybe it was harder. She’s got five other businesses or whatever. She seemed more interested in the costumes and the premier and her hair stuff.

That said, it is rumored that 2 actresses on The Good Wife - the lead actress and the woman who played the investigator - couldn’t stand to be in the same room. So it happens.

The Good Wife drama between the Wife and the Investigator - they hated each other so much that the Wife insisted they should film their last scene together — where they sit side by side in a bar together and talk — separately and CGI it together. Good times.

I will say that if I had to deal with what I considered to be intrusively overfamiliar and sexual behavior from a director/actor (he unexpectedly turned a slow dancing scene into a kissing assault, hired his bro friend to play catcher at the foot of my spread open vagina during the delivery scene, and showed up in my trailer against my wishes when I was indisposed), I would think the person who advised me that I “just needed to buckle down” didn’t really understand my situation and didn’t really care.

Well that he was shot at the beginning of the movie so I don’t think even all those things had happened yet. It was May 2023 and that’s when they had started shooting. I’m sure a few of those things that happen but not the whole list.

But you’re right, I don’t have a lot of sympathy because I think she didn’t get along with her coaster and then tried to take the movie from him. We wouldn’t even be seeing that scene if our team had known that there was audio. She thought she could lie about a few things or exaggerate. The whole it smells good was so absolutely ridiculous I can’t even believe we’re still talking about it.

One thing we haven’t talked about in the scene is when he tells her she and Ryan are cute and she says we’re more than cute. What the hell does that even mean? I think she feels condescended to by him, which is fair, but it’s just such a smug, power move. We get it, you have a lot of power, you’re eventually going take this movie from this guy. It’s clear of their intent from the start.

I don’t think you are understanding the conversation. “That’s cute” in the tone he used is kind of a smarmy insult. He doesn’t say “oh that’s lovely” or “fun!” or even “that’s too much work for me!” Or whatever, but “That’s cute” in THAT tone. It’s an insult and a power move in itself. Urban dictionary agrees. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=That%27s%20Cute

Have you never been told “that’s cute” by someone, in a tone, who clearly means the opposite?

Look at your overreactive judginess of her follow up when you seem to think “that’s cute” in this context is a compliment and don’t even understand wtf is going on. smdh

OMG! If BL is going to be as hypersensitive as you, I don’t think she can function in the workplace. Taking every comment in the worst possible way is not harassment.

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Anonymous wrote:If I was her and feeling uncomfortable and harassed and in conflict with the director or I was him feeling like someone was unfairly accusing me of things and trying to take over my movie, there is no way I could act out intimate love scenes with someone.

Obviously I am not an actor but I just couldn’t do it. I couldn’t put all my real life feelings aside and act out a love story or be physically affectionate.

Agree with this. A major takeaway for me here is that being a Hollywood actor and working on movies like this is actually kind of a crap job. You probably have so little control over who you wind up working with and it's crazy how these two clearly just never saw eye to eye or liked each other but still had to spend months faking a love affair on camera.

Never been more grateful for my boring white collar job where I never, ever have to kiss anyone for work, much less a colleague I find incredibly annoying. #blessed

It seems like not getting along on set is not all that uncommon. I think a lot of actresses could just buckle down and do it and it’s not that big of a deal. Blake seems to not takes acting all that seriously so maybe it was harder. She’s got five other businesses or whatever. She seemed more interested in the costumes and the premier and her hair stuff.

That said, it is rumored that 2 actresses on The Good Wife - the lead actress and the woman who played the investigator - couldn’t stand to be in the same room. So it happens.

The Good Wife drama between the Wife and the Investigator - they hated each other so much that the Wife insisted they should film their last scene together — where they sit side by side in a bar together and talk — separately and CGI it together. Good times.

I will say that if I had to deal with what I considered to be intrusively overfamiliar and sexual behavior from a director/actor (he unexpectedly turned a slow dancing scene into a kissing assault, hired his bro friend to play catcher at the foot of my spread open vagina during the delivery scene, and showed up in my trailer against my wishes when I was indisposed), I would think the person who advised me that I “just needed to buckle down” didn’t really understand my situation and didn’t really care.

Well that he was shot at the beginning of the movie so I don’t think even all those things had happened yet. It was May 2023 and that’s when they had started shooting. I’m sure a few of those things that happen but not the whole list.

But you’re right, I don’t have a lot of sympathy because I think she didn’t get along with her coaster and then tried to take the movie from him. We wouldn’t even be seeing that scene if our team had known that there was audio. She thought she could lie about a few things or exaggerate. The whole it smells good was so absolutely ridiculous I can’t even believe we’re still talking about it.

One thing we haven’t talked about in the scene is when he tells her she and Ryan are cute and she says we’re more than cute. What the hell does that even mean? I think she feels condescended to by him, which is fair, but it’s just such a smug, power move. We get it, you have a lot of power, you’re eventually going take this movie from this guy. It’s clear of their intent from the start.

I don’t think you are understanding the conversation. “That’s cute” in the tone he used is kind of a smarmy insult. He doesn’t say “oh that’s lovely” or “fun!” or even “that’s too much work for me!” Or whatever, but “That’s cute” in THAT tone. It’s an insult and a power move in itself. Urban dictionary agrees. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=That%27s%20Cute

Have you never been told “that’s cute” by someone, in a tone, who clearly means the opposite?

Look at your overreactive judginess of her follow up when you seem to think “that’s cute” in this context is a compliment and don’t even understand wtf is going on. smdh

“Fun!” would get me way more than “that’s cute.” I can’t think of any response that wouldn’t sound patronizing here—because he clearly thinks she needs to be treated with kid gloves and he probably is humoring her. He tries a curt “it’s cute” first, and then when that’s not enough, he has to fully kiss her a** by upgrading to “that’s amazing!”

It’s the same reason why “it smells nice” wasn’t creepy. He doesn’t even like her. He is trying to do his job and then get out of there.

Exactly. If he had made any comment other than a relatively neutral “that’s cute,” then THAT would also be claimed to be sexual harassment. What was he supposed to say?

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Anonymous wrote:If I was her and feeling uncomfortable and harassed and in conflict with the director or I was him feeling like someone was unfairly accusing me of things and trying to take over my movie, there is no way I could act out intimate love scenes with someone.

Obviously I am not an actor but I just couldn’t do it. I couldn’t put all my real life feelings aside and act out a love story or be physically affectionate.

Agree with this. A major takeaway for me here is that being a Hollywood actor and working on movies like this is actually kind of a crap job. You probably have so little control over who you wind up working with and it's crazy how these two clearly just never saw eye to eye or liked each other but still had to spend months faking a love affair on camera.

Never been more grateful for my boring white collar job where I never, ever have to kiss anyone for work, much less a colleague I find incredibly annoying. #blessed

It seems like not getting along on set is not all that uncommon. I think a lot of actresses could just buckle down and do it and it’s not that big of a deal. Blake seems to not takes acting all that seriously so maybe it was harder. She’s got five other businesses or whatever. She seemed more interested in the costumes and the premier and her hair stuff.

That said, it is rumored that 2 actresses on The Good Wife - the lead actress and the woman who played the investigator - couldn’t stand to be in the same room. So it happens.

The Good Wife drama between the Wife and the Investigator - they hated each other so much that the Wife insisted they should film their last scene together — where they sit side by side in a bar together and talk — separately and CGI it together. Good times.

I will say that if I had to deal with what I considered to be intrusively overfamiliar and sexual behavior from a director/actor (he unexpectedly turned a slow dancing scene into a kissing assault, hired his bro friend to play catcher at the foot of my spread open vagina during the delivery scene, and showed up in my trailer against my wishes when I was indisposed), I would think the person who advised me that I “just needed to buckle down” didn’t really understand my situation and didn’t really care.

Well that he was shot at the beginning of the movie so I don’t think even all those things had happened yet. It was May 2023 and that’s when they had started shooting. I’m sure a few of those things that happen but not the whole list.

But you’re right, I don’t have a lot of sympathy because I think she didn’t get along with her coaster and then tried to take the movie from him. We wouldn’t even be seeing that scene if our team had known that there was audio. She thought she could lie about a few things or exaggerate. The whole it smells good was so absolutely ridiculous I can’t even believe we’re still talking about it.

One thing we haven’t talked about in the scene is when he tells her she and Ryan are cute and she says we’re more than cute. What the hell does that even mean? I think she feels condescended to by him, which is fair, but it’s just such a smug, power move. We get it, you have a lot of power, you’re eventually going take this movie from this guy. It’s clear of their intent from the start.

I don’t think you are understanding the conversation. “That’s cute” in the tone he used is kind of a smarmy insult. He doesn’t say “oh that’s lovely” or “fun!” or even “that’s too much work for me!” Or whatever, but “That’s cute” in THAT tone. It’s an insult and a power move in itself. Urban dictionary agrees. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=That%27s%20Cute

Have you never been told “that’s cute” by someone, in a tone, who clearly means the opposite?

Look at your overreactive judginess of her follow up when you seem to think “that’s cute” in this context is a compliment and don’t even understand wtf is going on. smdh

“Fun!” would get me way more than “that’s cute.” I can’t think of any response that wouldn’t sound patronizing here—because he clearly thinks she needs to be treated with kid gloves and he probably is humoring her. He tries a curt “it’s cute” first, and then when that’s not enough, he has to fully kiss her a** by upgrading to “that’s amazing!”

It’s the same reason why “it smells nice” wasn’t creepy. He doesn’t even like her. He is trying to do his job and then get out of there.

+1 he’s just trying to appease her and get the scene done. She sounds difficult.

He can’t win. If he’s more acting the tough director then it’s a hostile work environment and if he’s trying to tamp it down and placate her he is being condescending and running a bad set.

This scene was shot in May 2023. They had not been working together that long. Unless we’re going to find out in the first few days of the shoot he groped her or ogled her or screamed at her, I’m just not sure why the relationship would be that bad. There just wasn’t time for a lot of the incidents that she laid out to even happen yet. She seemed like she was laying the stakes down from the start and making it clear who was calling the shots.

And in her defense, it is likely to get her to do this movie they promised her some creative control. I’m sure he told her he was collaborative and wanted her input. I mean from the start they let her do the wardrobe. She was a producer from the start, even though she was not an executive producer. I’m sure that caused issues but but it seemed like a reasonable thing to do.

They did not have a clear delineation of power. I think that’s why we’re here.

I’m sure she was promised creative input, but then she took that further than he wanted her to. In the end, he rolled over and let her win (he was probably pretty freaked out about her list of demands and their implications), but she was already mad (for all the times she felt condescended to). And I’m sure she believed RR got more creative control of DP3 because he’s a man.

Then, of course, she blamed him for the bad publicity, and she was like, it’s on.

I noted her previous interviews earlier. One thing that stood out to me is that she’s not necessarily mean or anything (only sometimes), but she is really controlling; she likes to turn into the interviewer. She almost always starts asking the interviewer questions and they struggle to regain control. She’s a ball buster, like she said.

All of this AND he is responsible for the bad publicity. He had his PR team go nuclear and they did a great job of it. He’s not an angel here.

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Anonymous wrote:If I was her and feeling uncomfortable and harassed and in conflict with the director or I was him feeling like someone was unfairly accusing me of things and trying to take over my movie, there is no way I could act out intimate love scenes with someone.

Obviously I am not an actor but I just couldn’t do it. I couldn’t put all my real life feelings aside and act out a love story or be physically affectionate.

Agree with this. A major takeaway for me here is that being a Hollywood actor and working on movies like this is actually kind of a crap job. You probably have so little control over who you wind up working with and it's crazy how these two clearly just never saw eye to eye or liked each other but still had to spend months faking a love affair on camera.

Never been more grateful for my boring white collar job where I never, ever have to kiss anyone for work, much less a colleague I find incredibly annoying. #blessed

It seems like not getting along on set is not all that uncommon. I think a lot of actresses could just buckle down and do it and it’s not that big of a deal. Blake seems to not takes acting all that seriously so maybe it was harder. She’s got five other businesses or whatever. She seemed more interested in the costumes and the premier and her hair stuff.

That said, it is rumored that 2 actresses on The Good Wife - the lead actress and the woman who played the investigator - couldn’t stand to be in the same room. So it happens.

The Good Wife drama between the Wife and the Investigator - they hated each other so much that the Wife insisted they should film their last scene together — where they sit side by side in a bar together and talk — separately and CGI it together. Good times.

I will say that if I had to deal with what I considered to be intrusively overfamiliar and sexual behavior from a director/actor (he unexpectedly turned a slow dancing scene into a kissing assault, hired his bro friend to play catcher at the foot of my spread open vagina during the delivery scene, and showed up in my trailer against my wishes when I was indisposed), I would think the person who advised me that I “just needed to buckle down” didn’t really understand my situation and didn’t really care.

Well that he was shot at the beginning of the movie so I don’t think even all those things had happened yet. It was May 2023 and that’s when they had started shooting. I’m sure a few of those things that happen but not the whole list.

But you’re right, I don’t have a lot of sympathy because I think she didn’t get along with her coaster and then tried to take the movie from him. We wouldn’t even be seeing that scene if our team had known that there was audio. She thought she could lie about a few things or exaggerate. The whole it smells good was so absolutely ridiculous I can’t even believe we’re still talking about it.

One thing we haven’t talked about in the scene is when he tells her she and Ryan are cute and she says we’re more than cute. What the hell does that even mean? I think she feels condescended to by him, which is fair, but it’s just such a smug, power move. We get it, you have a lot of power, you’re eventually going take this movie from this guy. It’s clear of their intent from the start.

I don’t think you are understanding the conversation. “That’s cute” in the tone he used is kind of a smarmy insult. He doesn’t say “oh that’s lovely” or “fun!” or even “that’s too much work for me!” Or whatever, but “That’s cute” in THAT tone. It’s an insult and a power move in itself. Urban dictionary agrees. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=That%27s%20Cute

Have you never been told “that’s cute” by someone, in a tone, who clearly means the opposite?

Look at your overreactive judginess of her follow up when you seem to think “that’s cute” in this context is a compliment and don’t even understand wtf is going on. smdh

“Fun!” would get me way more than “that’s cute.” I can’t think of any response that wouldn’t sound patronizing here—because he clearly thinks she needs to be treated with kid gloves and he probably is humoring her. He tries a curt “it’s cute” first, and then when that’s not enough, he has to fully kiss her a** by upgrading to “that’s amazing!”

It’s the same reason why “it smells nice” wasn’t creepy. He doesn’t even like her. He is trying to do his job and then get out of there.

+1 he’s just trying to appease her and get the scene done. She sounds difficult.

He can’t win. If he’s more acting the tough director then it’s a hostile work environment and if he’s trying to tamp it down and placate her he is being condescending and running a bad set.

This scene was shot in May 2023. They had not been working together that long. Unless we’re going to find out in the first few days of the shoot he groped her or ogled her or screamed at her, I’m just not sure why the relationship would be that bad. There just wasn’t time for a lot of the incidents that she laid out to even happen yet. She seemed like she was laying the stakes down from the start and making it clear who was calling the shots.

And in her defense, it is likely to get her to do this movie they promised her some creative control. I’m sure he told her he was collaborative and wanted her input. I mean from the start they let her do the wardrobe. She was a producer from the start, even though she was not an executive producer. I’m sure that caused issues but but it seemed like a reasonable thing to do.

They did not have a clear delineation of power. I think that’s why we’re here.

I’m sure she was promised creative input, but then she took that further than he wanted her to. In the end, he rolled over and let her win (he was probably pretty freaked out about her list of demands and their implications), but she was already mad (for all the times she felt condescended to). And I’m sure she believed RR got more creative control of DP3 because he’s a man.

Then, of course, she blamed him for the bad publicity, and she was like, it’s on.

I noted her previous interviews earlier. One thing that stood out to me is that she’s not necessarily mean or anything (only sometimes), but she is really controlling; she likes to turn into the interviewer. She almost always starts asking the interviewer questions and they struggle to regain control. She’s a ball buster, like she said.

All of this AND he is responsible for the bad publicity. He had his PR team go nuclear and they did a great job of it. He’s not an angel here.

No, BL started the bad publicity when she undermined him as the movie was being released. She’s very lucky the movie earned more money than it deserved, because her actions were extremely irresponsible and unprofessional.

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Anonymous wrote:If I was her and feeling uncomfortable and harassed and in conflict with the director or I was him feeling like someone was unfairly accusing me of things and trying to take over my movie, there is no way I could act out intimate love scenes with someone.

Obviously I am not an actor but I just couldn’t do it. I couldn’t put all my real life feelings aside and act out a love story or be physically affectionate.

Agree with this. A major takeaway for me here is that being a Hollywood actor and working on movies like this is actually kind of a crap job. You probably have so little control over who you wind up working with and it's crazy how these two clearly just never saw eye to eye or liked each other but still had to spend months faking a love affair on camera.

Never been more grateful for my boring white collar job where I never, ever have to kiss anyone for work, much less a colleague I find incredibly annoying. #blessed

It seems like not getting along on set is not all that uncommon. I think a lot of actresses could just buckle down and do it and it’s not that big of a deal. Blake seems to not takes acting all that seriously so maybe it was harder. She’s got five other businesses or whatever. She seemed more interested in the costumes and the premier and her hair stuff.

That said, it is rumored that 2 actresses on The Good Wife - the lead actress and the woman who played the investigator - couldn’t stand to be in the same room. So it happens.

The Good Wife drama between the Wife and the Investigator - they hated each other so much that the Wife insisted they should film their last scene together — where they sit side by side in a bar together and talk — separately and CGI it together. Good times.

I will say that if I had to deal with what I considered to be intrusively overfamiliar and sexual behavior from a director/actor (he unexpectedly turned a slow dancing scene into a kissing assault, hired his bro friend to play catcher at the foot of my spread open vagina during the delivery scene, and showed up in my trailer against my wishes when I was indisposed), I would think the person who advised me that I “just needed to buckle down” didn’t really understand my situation and didn’t really care.

Well that he was shot at the beginning of the movie so I don’t think even all those things had happened yet. It was May 2023 and that’s when they had started shooting. I’m sure a few of those things that happen but not the whole list.

But you’re right, I don’t have a lot of sympathy because I think she didn’t get along with her coaster and then tried to take the movie from him. We wouldn’t even be seeing that scene if our team had known that there was audio. She thought she could lie about a few things or exaggerate. The whole it smells good was so absolutely ridiculous I can’t even believe we’re still talking about it.

One thing we haven’t talked about in the scene is when he tells her she and Ryan are cute and she says we’re more than cute. What the hell does that even mean? I think she feels condescended to by him, which is fair, but it’s just such a smug, power move. We get it, you have a lot of power, you’re eventually going take this movie from this guy. It’s clear of their intent from the start.

I don’t think you are understanding the conversation. “That’s cute” in the tone he used is kind of a smarmy insult. He doesn’t say “oh that’s lovely” or “fun!” or even “that’s too much work for me!” Or whatever, but “That’s cute” in THAT tone. It’s an insult and a power move in itself. Urban dictionary agrees. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=That%27s%20Cute

Have you never been told “that’s cute” by someone, in a tone, who clearly means the opposite?

Look at your overreactive judginess of her follow up when you seem to think “that’s cute” in this context is a compliment and don’t even understand wtf is going on. smdh

“Fun!” would get me way more than “that’s cute.” I can’t think of any response that wouldn’t sound patronizing here—because he clearly thinks she needs to be treated with kid gloves and he probably is humoring her. He tries a curt “it’s cute” first, and then when that’s not enough, he has to fully kiss her a** by upgrading to “that’s amazing!”

It’s the same reason why “it smells nice” wasn’t creepy. He doesn’t even like her. He is trying to do his job and then get out of there.

+1 he’s just trying to appease her and get the scene done. She sounds difficult.

He can’t win. If he’s more acting the tough director then it’s a hostile work environment and if he’s trying to tamp it down and placate her he is being condescending and running a bad set.

This scene was shot in May 2023. They had not been working together that long. Unless we’re going to find out in the first few days of the shoot he groped her or ogled her or screamed at her, I’m just not sure why the relationship would be that bad. There just wasn’t time for a lot of the incidents that she laid out to even happen yet. She seemed like she was laying the stakes down from the start and making it clear who was calling the shots.

And in her defense, it is likely to get her to do this movie they promised her some creative control. I’m sure he told her he was collaborative and wanted her input. I mean from the start they let her do the wardrobe. She was a producer from the start, even though she was not an executive producer. I’m sure that caused issues but but it seemed like a reasonable thing to do.

They did not have a clear delineation of power. I think that’s why we’re here.

I’m sure she was promised creative input, but then she took that further than he wanted her to. In the end, he rolled over and let her win (he was probably pretty freaked out about her list of demands and their implications), but she was already mad (for all the times she felt condescended to). And I’m sure she believed RR got more creative control of DP3 because he’s a man.

Then, of course, she blamed him for the bad publicity, and she was like, it’s on.

I noted her previous interviews earlier. One thing that stood out to me is that she’s not necessarily mean or anything (only sometimes), but she is really controlling; she likes to turn into the interviewer. She almost always starts asking the interviewer questions and they struggle to regain control. She’s a ball buster, like she said.

All of this AND he is responsible for the bad publicity. He had his PR team go nuclear and they did a great job of it. He’s not an angel here.

No, BL started the bad publicity when she undermined him as the movie was being released. She’s very lucky the movie earned more money than it deserved, because her actions were extremely irresponsible and unprofessional.

They probably both acted terrible. She took control of the movie, banned him from the premier and embarrassed him. He fought back.

But then it was pretty much over. This thread had died down. Nobody was talking about it ends with with us. Ryan Blake we’re back to their pap walks. She had gotten a lot of bad publicity, but she also had one of the most successful movies of the summer and certainly her career. You win some lose some. This was all dying down in the public would have moved on.

The New York Times article was scorched earth. It was a total me too moment that would’ve obliterated his career, there’s just no question. I just don’t know why they weren’t better prepared for it or what they were expecting to happen after that.

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Anonymous wrote:If I was her and feeling uncomfortable and harassed and in conflict with the director or I was him feeling like someone was unfairly accusing me of things and trying to take over my movie, there is no way I could act out intimate love scenes with someone.

Obviously I am not an actor but I just couldn’t do it. I couldn’t put all my real life feelings aside and act out a love story or be physically affectionate.

Agree with this. A major takeaway for me here is that being a Hollywood actor and working on movies like this is actually kind of a crap job. You probably have so little control over who you wind up working with and it's crazy how these two clearly just never saw eye to eye or liked each other but still had to spend months faking a love affair on camera.

Never been more grateful for my boring white collar job where I never, ever have to kiss anyone for work, much less a colleague I find incredibly annoying. #blessed

It seems like not getting along on set is not all that uncommon. I think a lot of actresses could just buckle down and do it and it’s not that big of a deal. Blake seems to not takes acting all that seriously so maybe it was harder. She’s got five other businesses or whatever. She seemed more interested in the costumes and the premier and her hair stuff.

That said, it is rumored that 2 actresses on The Good Wife - the lead actress and the woman who played the investigator - couldn’t stand to be in the same room. So it happens.

The Good Wife drama between the Wife and the Investigator - they hated each other so much that the Wife insisted they should film their last scene together — where they sit side by side in a bar together and talk — separately and CGI it together. Good times.

I will say that if I had to deal with what I considered to be intrusively overfamiliar and sexual behavior from a director/actor (he unexpectedly turned a slow dancing scene into a kissing assault, hired his bro friend to play catcher at the foot of my spread open vagina during the delivery scene, and showed up in my trailer against my wishes when I was indisposed), I would think the person who advised me that I “just needed to buckle down” didn’t really understand my situation and didn’t really care.

Well that he was shot at the beginning of the movie so I don’t think even all those things had happened yet. It was May 2023 and that’s when they had started shooting. I’m sure a few of those things that happen but not the whole list.

But you’re right, I don’t have a lot of sympathy because I think she didn’t get along with her coaster and then tried to take the movie from him. We wouldn’t even be seeing that scene if our team had known that there was audio. She thought she could lie about a few things or exaggerate. The whole it smells good was so absolutely ridiculous I can’t even believe we’re still talking about it.

One thing we haven’t talked about in the scene is when he tells her she and Ryan are cute and she says we’re more than cute. What the hell does that even mean? I think she feels condescended to by him, which is fair, but it’s just such a smug, power move. We get it, you have a lot of power, you’re eventually going take this movie from this guy. It’s clear of their intent from the start.

I don’t think you are understanding the conversation. “That’s cute” in the tone he used is kind of a smarmy insult. He doesn’t say “oh that’s lovely” or “fun!” or even “that’s too much work for me!” Or whatever, but “That’s cute” in THAT tone. It’s an insult and a power move in itself. Urban dictionary agrees. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=That%27s%20Cute

Have you never been told “that’s cute” by someone, in a tone, who clearly means the opposite?

Look at your overreactive judginess of her follow up when you seem to think “that’s cute” in this context is a compliment and don’t even understand wtf is going on. smdh

“Fun!” would get me way more than “that’s cute.” I can’t think of any response that wouldn’t sound patronizing here—because he clearly thinks she needs to be treated with kid gloves and he probably is humoring her. He tries a curt “it’s cute” first, and then when that’s not enough, he has to fully kiss her a** by upgrading to “that’s amazing!”

It’s the same reason why “it smells nice” wasn’t creepy. He doesn’t even like her. He is trying to do his job and then get out of there.

+1 he’s just trying to appease her and get the scene done. She sounds difficult.

He can’t win. If he’s more acting the tough director then it’s a hostile work environment and if he’s trying to tamp it down and placate her he is being condescending and running a bad set.

This scene was shot in May 2023. They had not been working together that long. Unless we’re going to find out in the first few days of the shoot he groped her or ogled her or screamed at her, I’m just not sure why the relationship would be that bad. There just wasn’t time for a lot of the incidents that she laid out to even happen yet. She seemed like she was laying the stakes down from the start and making it clear who was calling the shots.

And in her defense, it is likely to get her to do this movie they promised her some creative control. I’m sure he told her he was collaborative and wanted her input. I mean from the start they let her do the wardrobe. She was a producer from the start, even though she was not an executive producer. I’m sure that caused issues but but it seemed like a reasonable thing to do.

They did not have a clear delineation of power. I think that’s why we’re here.

I’m sure she was promised creative input, but then she took that further than he wanted her to. In the end, he rolled over and let her win (he was probably pretty freaked out about her list of demands and their implications), but she was already mad (for all the times she felt condescended to). And I’m sure she believed RR got more creative control of DP3 because he’s a man.

Then, of course, she blamed him for the bad publicity, and she was like, it’s on.

I noted her previous interviews earlier. One thing that stood out to me is that she’s not necessarily mean or anything (only sometimes), but she is really controlling; she likes to turn into the interviewer. She almost always starts asking the interviewer questions and they struggle to regain control. She’s a ball buster, like she said.

All of this AND he is responsible for the bad publicity. He had his PR team go nuclear and they did a great job of it. He’s not an angel here.

No, BL started the bad publicity when she undermined him as the movie was being released. She’s very lucky the movie earned more money than it deserved, because her actions were extremely irresponsible and unprofessional.

They probably both acted terrible. She took control of the movie, banned him from the premier and embarrassed him. He fought back.

But then it was pretty much over. This thread had died down. Nobody was talking about it ends with with us. Ryan Blake we’re back to their pap walks. She had gotten a lot of bad publicity, but she also had one of the most successful movies of the summer and certainly her career. You win some lose some. This was all dying down in the public would have moved on.

The New York Times article was scorched earth. It was a total me too moment that would’ve obliterated his career, there’s just no question. I just don’t know why they weren’t better prepared for it or what they were expecting to happen after that.

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Don’t think she was sexually harassed. It’s a power mover for control and did not expect a fight.
She has out back the metoo movement by 20 years. I hope this is resolved quickly and we can all move on

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I’m really surprised by the idea that anything less than an ideally perceived work environment is actionable.

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But telling someone “that’s cute” in response to something they say about their husband is severely hostile!

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Anonymous wrote:If I was her and feeling uncomfortable and harassed and in conflict with the director or I was him feeling like someone was unfairly accusing me of things and trying to take over my movie, there is no way I could act out intimate love scenes with someone.

Obviously I am not an actor but I just couldn’t do it. I couldn’t put all my real life feelings aside and act out a love story or be physically affectionate.

Agree with this. A major takeaway for me here is that being a Hollywood actor and working on movies like this is actually kind of a crap job. You probably have so little control over who you wind up working with and it's crazy how these two clearly just never saw eye to eye or liked each other but still had to spend months faking a love affair on camera.

Never been more grateful for my boring white collar job where I never, ever have to kiss anyone for work, much less a colleague I find incredibly annoying. #blessed

It seems like not getting along on set is not all that uncommon. I think a lot of actresses could just buckle down and do it and it’s not that big of a deal. Blake seems to not takes acting all that seriously so maybe it was harder. She’s got five other businesses or whatever. She seemed more interested in the costumes and the premier and her hair stuff.

That said, it is rumored that 2 actresses on The Good Wife - the lead actress and the woman who played the investigator - couldn’t stand to be in the same room. So it happens.

The Good Wife drama between the Wife and the Investigator - they hated each other so much that the Wife insisted they should film their last scene together — where they sit side by side in a bar together and talk — separately and CGI it together. Good times.

I will say that if I had to deal with what I considered to be intrusively overfamiliar and sexual behavior from a director/actor (he unexpectedly turned a slow dancing scene into a kissing assault, hired his bro friend to play catcher at the foot of my spread open vagina during the delivery scene, and showed up in my trailer against my wishes when I was indisposed), I would think the person who advised me that I “just needed to buckle down” didn’t really understand my situation and didn’t really care.

Well that he was shot at the beginning of the movie so I don’t think even all those things had happened yet. It was May 2023 and that’s when they had started shooting. I’m sure a few of those things that happen but not the whole list.

But you’re right, I don’t have a lot of sympathy because I think she didn’t get along with her coaster and then tried to take the movie from him. We wouldn’t even be seeing that scene if our team had known that there was audio. She thought she could lie about a few things or exaggerate. The whole it smells good was so absolutely ridiculous I can’t even believe we’re still talking about it.

One thing we haven’t talked about in the scene is when he tells her she and Ryan are cute and she says we’re more than cute. What the hell does that even mean? I think she feels condescended to by him, which is fair, but it’s just such a smug, power move. We get it, you have a lot of power, you’re eventually going take this movie from this guy. It’s clear of their intent from the start.

I don’t think you are understanding the conversation. “That’s cute” in the tone he used is kind of a smarmy insult. He doesn’t say “oh that’s lovely” or “fun!” or even “that’s too much work for me!” Or whatever, but “That’s cute” in THAT tone. It’s an insult and a power move in itself. Urban dictionary agrees. https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=That%27s%20Cute

Have you never been told “that’s cute” by someone, in a tone, who clearly means the opposite?

Look at your overreactive judginess of her follow up when you seem to think “that’s cute” in this context is a compliment and don’t even understand wtf is going on. smdh

“Fun!” would get me way more than “that’s cute.” I can’t think of any response that wouldn’t sound patronizing here—because he clearly thinks she needs to be treated with kid gloves and he probably is humoring her. He tries a curt “it’s cute” first, and then when that’s not enough, he has to fully kiss her a** by upgrading to “that’s amazing!”

It’s the same reason why “it smells nice” wasn’t creepy. He doesn’t even like her. He is trying to do his job and then get out of there.

+1 he’s just trying to appease her and get the scene done. She sounds difficult.

He can’t win. If he’s more acting the tough director then it’s a hostile work environment and if he’s trying to tamp it down and placate her he is being condescending and running a bad set.

This scene was shot in May 2023. They had not been working together that long. Unless we’re going to find out in the first few days of the shoot he groped her or ogled her or screamed at her, I’m just not sure why the relationship would be that bad. There just wasn’t time for a lot of the incidents that she laid out to even happen yet. She seemed like she was laying the stakes down from the start and making it clear who was calling the shots.

And in her defense, it is likely to get her to do this movie they promised her some creative control. I’m sure he told her he was collaborative and wanted her input. I mean from the start they let her do the wardrobe. She was a producer from the start, even though she was not an executive producer. I’m sure that caused issues but but it seemed like a reasonable thing to do.

They did not have a clear delineation of power. I think that’s why we’re here.

I’m sure she was promised creative input, but then she took that further than he wanted her to. In the end, he rolled over and let her win (he was probably pretty freaked out about her list of demands and their implications), but she was already mad (for all the times she felt condescended to). And I’m sure she believed RR got more creative control of DP3 because he’s a man.

Then, of course, she blamed him for the bad publicity, and she was like, it’s on.

I noted her previous interviews earlier. One thing that stood out to me is that she’s not necessarily mean or anything (only sometimes), but she is really controlling; she likes to turn into the interviewer. She almost always starts asking the interviewer questions and they struggle to regain control. She’s a ball buster, like she said.

All of this AND he is responsible for the bad publicity. He had his PR team go nuclear and they did a great job of it. He’s not an angel here.

She is not responsible for her own behavior? Log off, Robin.