ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks! I’m sure the crazies are saying this is fake, but what are the majority/realistic people saying?

Much like the Arlington FAQ the Albion update was provided by a club to update and inform parents.

This is different that a screenshot posted to reddit with no real details and names painted out with what looked like the same brush as other proven fakes from 6 months ago. Next time try harder.

That ‘brush’ is literally a standard image editing tool on an iPhone. There is nothing about it that is fake. If you had even an ounce of inside info you would know that the screenshot was legit. I can’t speak to those earlier ones (never even saw them).

There were 2 documents/screenshots that were proven to be fake and looked exactly like this one. The chances are pretty good that this one was faked as well.

Kind of interesting that everyone else has moved on accepting that it was faked but you.

Ok. You’ll be proven wrong again. Your track record is that you’ve been wrong on every single decision. Maybe sit this one out?

You've been proven to fake documents and screenshots 2x.

Sorry partially right guesses dont count.

I haven’t faked or created anything. Just commenting here like anyone else who has seen them floating around.

That being said, a ‘right guess’ is still better than always being wrong… Again, you may want to be introspective and figure out why you keep being on the wrong side of reality.

You lied + got caught + werent right. Then happened to get partially lucky with your guess.

Obviously you dont understand that lieing is wrong even if your lie happens to turn out partially correct. Something about ethics that you dont get.

The best part is I am the poster of ECNL grad year comment and have been busy and what a delight come back and see you blaming it on somone else and allow it to fry your brain just like I knew it would lol

I’m not making up anything by the way that was really told to me by my clubs ECNL director when I asked about my son who’s a July born player but started school late and his response was ECNL will have rules in place but his understanding is senior year would basically be what we are all referring to as grad year (with rules he believes as long as you are under 19 as of 8/1 you will be able to play).

This will also effect juniors for showcases as well where if you’re a junior (age rules of some type apply) you will be able to play U17 showcases but may have to play U19 for league play.

All this will come out eventually I’m just spreading the good word…

It sounds like youre the only one with a fried brain.

ECNL already has a Junior/Senior group called u18/u19

U18/19 is Juniors and seniors together they are saying it will be broken up Juniors on one showcase team and Seniors on another team.

That wont work. The reason u18/u19 exists is because juniors commit early and suddenly they dont care if the team wins or loses. If you split out the age groups it will just make the issue even worse. To address clubs will fill the gaps with lower level players that recruiters dont want to see.

That’s already happening many ECNL teams have to bring RL players to U19 showcases because the college commits don’t goto showcases.

D1 recruiting is usually wrapped up by the end of junior year so by senior it’s usually D2 and D3 watching at showcases. The lower level NL girls and RL girls are their targets so that makes sense.

This is also why the GY Guy wants Juniors and Seniors to attend Sophmore level Showcase events. He wants 2 maybe even 3 bites are the apple depending on how many times he can hold his kid back in school.

Starting to see why just adding a rule to SY that Aug and younger players must play on a team thats their grade makes sense? If you dont do this people like the GY Guy will continue to push for GY initially at events like Showcases but once this occurs the next phase will be league. Ultimately club soccer will look just like HS soccer. Which will translate into much less money for clubs because the same players will be consuming 3x the resources. Which will mean less demand from all the rest of the players/parents.

What are you talking about? If someone was in favor of GY at showcases, by definition of GY, juniors and seniors would not ever play with sophomores. I couldn’t care less what the leagues decide to do with showcases. Your statements are bizarre.

GY defines grouping by grade in school only. If a player attends sophomore year in HS then is held back 2x this means they're a Sophmore 3x.

What dont you understand?

You are saying that kids get held back more than twice after starting high school to get “3 bites of the apple” of showcases sophomore year? Again… just completely bizarre statements.

I'm explaining it in a dumbed down more extreme way. But if you want the real details the way it works in Football, Basketball, LAX. etc is parents hold their kid back in 8th grade 1 or even 2 years. Then when their a freshman theyre sometimes 16 years old. From a sports perspective the kid is 2 years older than everyone in their grade. This allows them to dominate at sports. You see it all the time at private high schools.

It’s not just private schools in cali. To make matters worse, they spend their repeat 8th grade years in “gym school”.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks! I’m sure the crazies are saying this is fake, but what are the majority/realistic people saying?

Much like the Arlington FAQ the Albion update was provided by a club to update and inform parents.

This is different that a screenshot posted to reddit with no real details and names painted out with what looked like the same brush as other proven fakes from 6 months ago. Next time try harder.

That ‘brush’ is literally a standard image editing tool on an iPhone. There is nothing about it that is fake. If you had even an ounce of inside info you would know that the screenshot was legit. I can’t speak to those earlier ones (never even saw them).

There were 2 documents/screenshots that were proven to be fake and looked exactly like this one. The chances are pretty good that this one was faked as well.

Kind of interesting that everyone else has moved on accepting that it was faked but you.

Ok. You’ll be proven wrong again. Your track record is that you’ve been wrong on every single decision. Maybe sit this one out?

You've been proven to fake documents and screenshots 2x.

Sorry partially right guesses dont count.

I haven’t faked or created anything. Just commenting here like anyone else who has seen them floating around.

That being said, a ‘right guess’ is still better than always being wrong… Again, you may want to be introspective and figure out why you keep being on the wrong side of reality.

You lied + got caught + werent right. Then happened to get partially lucky with your guess.

Obviously you dont understand that lieing is wrong even if your lie happens to turn out partially correct. Something about ethics that you dont get.

The best part is I am the poster of ECNL grad year comment and have been busy and what a delight come back and see you blaming it on somone else and allow it to fry your brain just like I knew it would lol

I’m not making up anything by the way that was really told to me by my clubs ECNL director when I asked about my son who’s a July born player but started school late and his response was ECNL will have rules in place but his understanding is senior year would basically be what we are all referring to as grad year (with rules he believes as long as you are under 19 as of 8/1 you will be able to play).

This will also effect juniors for showcases as well where if you’re a junior (age rules of some type apply) you will be able to play U17 showcases but may have to play U19 for league play.

All this will come out eventually I’m just spreading the good word…

It sounds like youre the only one with a fried brain.

ECNL already has a Junior/Senior group called u18/u19

U18/19 is Juniors and seniors together they are saying it will be broken up Juniors on one showcase team and Seniors on another team.

That wont work. The reason u18/u19 exists is because juniors commit early and suddenly they dont care if the team wins or loses. If you split out the age groups it will just make the issue even worse. To address clubs will fill the gaps with lower level players that recruiters dont want to see.

That’s already happening many ECNL teams have to bring RL players to U19 showcases because the college commits don’t goto showcases.

D1 recruiting is usually wrapped up by the end of junior year so by senior it’s usually D2 and D3 watching at showcases. The lower level NL girls and RL girls are their targets so that makes sense.

This is also why the GY Guy wants Juniors and Seniors to attend Sophmore level Showcase events. He wants 2 maybe even 3 bites are the apple depending on how many times he can hold his kid back in school.

Starting to see why just adding a rule to SY that Aug and younger players must play on a team thats their grade makes sense? If you dont do this people like the GY Guy will continue to push for GY initially at events like Showcases but once this occurs the next phase will be league. Ultimately club soccer will look just like HS soccer. Which will translate into much less money for clubs because the same players will be consuming 3x the resources. Which will mean less demand from all the rest of the players/parents.

What are you talking about? If someone was in favor of GY at showcases, by definition of GY, juniors and seniors would not ever play with sophomores. I couldn’t care less what the leagues decide to do with showcases. Your statements are bizarre.

GY defines grouping by grade in school only. If a player attends sophomore year in HS then is held back 2x this means they're a Sophmore 3x.

What dont you understand?

You are saying that kids get held back more than twice after starting high school to get “3 bites of the apple” of showcases sophomore year? Again… just completely bizarre statements.

I'm explaining it in a dumbed down more extreme way. But if you want the real details the way it works in Football, Basketball, LAX. etc is parents hold their kid back in 8th grade 1 or even 2 years. Then when their a freshman theyre sometimes 16 years old. From a sports perspective the kid is 2 years older than everyone in their grade. This allows them to dominate at sports. You see it all the time at private high schools.

It’s not just private schools in cali. To make matters worse, they spend their repeat 8th grade years in “gym school”.

That’s why there are age ranges for soccer. As much as you like to worry about this changing to GY, it’s not.

The only time your kid will be competing with older kids is for college recruitment. That’s the case whether showcases are GY or not. You’re lucky you have a girl, you’d lose your mind at the ages of some of these former European academy players on the mens side.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks! I’m sure the crazies are saying this is fake, but what are the majority/realistic people saying?

Much like the Arlington FAQ the Albion update was provided by a club to update and inform parents.

This is different that a screenshot posted to reddit with no real details and names painted out with what looked like the same brush as other proven fakes from 6 months ago. Next time try harder.

That ‘brush’ is literally a standard image editing tool on an iPhone. There is nothing about it that is fake. If you had even an ounce of inside info you would know that the screenshot was legit. I can’t speak to those earlier ones (never even saw them).

There were 2 documents/screenshots that were proven to be fake and looked exactly like this one. The chances are pretty good that this one was faked as well.

Kind of interesting that everyone else has moved on accepting that it was faked but you.

Ok. You’ll be proven wrong again. Your track record is that you’ve been wrong on every single decision. Maybe sit this one out?

You've been proven to fake documents and screenshots 2x.

Sorry partially right guesses dont count.

I haven’t faked or created anything. Just commenting here like anyone else who has seen them floating around.

That being said, a ‘right guess’ is still better than always being wrong… Again, you may want to be introspective and figure out why you keep being on the wrong side of reality.

You lied + got caught + werent right. Then happened to get partially lucky with your guess.

Obviously you dont understand that lieing is wrong even if your lie happens to turn out partially correct. Something about ethics that you dont get.

The best part is I am the poster of ECNL grad year comment and have been busy and what a delight come back and see you blaming it on somone else and allow it to fry your brain just like I knew it would lol

I’m not making up anything by the way that was really told to me by my clubs ECNL director when I asked about my son who’s a July born player but started school late and his response was ECNL will have rules in place but his understanding is senior year would basically be what we are all referring to as grad year (with rules he believes as long as you are under 19 as of 8/1 you will be able to play).

This will also effect juniors for showcases as well where if you’re a junior (age rules of some type apply) you will be able to play U17 showcases but may have to play U19 for league play.

All this will come out eventually I’m just spreading the good word…

It sounds like youre the only one with a fried brain.

ECNL already has a Junior/Senior group called u18/u19

U18/19 is Juniors and seniors together they are saying it will be broken up Juniors on one showcase team and Seniors on another team.

That wont work. The reason u18/u19 exists is because juniors commit early and suddenly they dont care if the team wins or loses. If you split out the age groups it will just make the issue even worse. To address clubs will fill the gaps with lower level players that recruiters dont want to see.

That’s already happening many ECNL teams have to bring RL players to U19 showcases because the college commits don’t goto showcases.

D1 recruiting is usually wrapped up by the end of junior year so by senior it’s usually D2 and D3 watching at showcases. The lower level NL girls and RL girls are their targets so that makes sense.

This is also why the GY Guy wants Juniors and Seniors to attend Sophmore level Showcase events. He wants 2 maybe even 3 bites are the apple depending on how many times he can hold his kid back in school.

Starting to see why just adding a rule to SY that Aug and younger players must play on a team thats their grade makes sense? If you dont do this people like the GY Guy will continue to push for GY initially at events like Showcases but once this occurs the next phase will be league. Ultimately club soccer will look just like HS soccer. Which will translate into much less money for clubs because the same players will be consuming 3x the resources. Which will mean less demand from all the rest of the players/parents.

You know GY guy only exists as some weird straw man that you keep tossing out there. Just sayin.

He knows it. I ask him to provide evidence and he offered nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks! I’m sure the crazies are saying this is fake, but what are the majority/realistic people saying?

Much like the Arlington FAQ the Albion update was provided by a club to update and inform parents.

This is different that a screenshot posted to reddit with no real details and names painted out with what looked like the same brush as other proven fakes from 6 months ago. Next time try harder.

That ‘brush’ is literally a standard image editing tool on an iPhone. There is nothing about it that is fake. If you had even an ounce of inside info you would know that the screenshot was legit. I can’t speak to those earlier ones (never even saw them).

There were 2 documents/screenshots that were proven to be fake and looked exactly like this one. The chances are pretty good that this one was faked as well.

Kind of interesting that everyone else has moved on accepting that it was faked but you.

Ok. You’ll be proven wrong again. Your track record is that you’ve been wrong on every single decision. Maybe sit this one out?

You've been proven to fake documents and screenshots 2x.

Sorry partially right guesses dont count.

I haven’t faked or created anything. Just commenting here like anyone else who has seen them floating around.

That being said, a ‘right guess’ is still better than always being wrong… Again, you may want to be introspective and figure out why you keep being on the wrong side of reality.

You lied + got caught + werent right. Then happened to get partially lucky with your guess.

Obviously you dont understand that lieing is wrong even if your lie happens to turn out partially correct. Something about ethics that you dont get.

The best part is I am the poster of ECNL grad year comment and have been busy and what a delight come back and see you blaming it on somone else and allow it to fry your brain just like I knew it would lol

I’m not making up anything by the way that was really told to me by my clubs ECNL director when I asked about my son who’s a July born player but started school late and his response was ECNL will have rules in place but his understanding is senior year would basically be what we are all referring to as grad year (with rules he believes as long as you are under 19 as of 8/1 you will be able to play).

This will also effect juniors for showcases as well where if you’re a junior (age rules of some type apply) you will be able to play U17 showcases but may have to play U19 for league play.

All this will come out eventually I’m just spreading the good word…

It sounds like youre the only one with a fried brain.

ECNL already has a Junior/Senior group called u18/u19

U18/19 is Juniors and seniors together they are saying it will be broken up Juniors on one showcase team and Seniors on another team.

That wont work. The reason u18/u19 exists is because juniors commit early and suddenly they dont care if the team wins or loses. If you split out the age groups it will just make the issue even worse. To address clubs will fill the gaps with lower level players that recruiters dont want to see.

That’s already happening many ECNL teams have to bring RL players to U19 showcases because the college commits don’t goto showcases.

D1 recruiting is usually wrapped up by the end of junior year so by senior it’s usually D2 and D3 watching at showcases. The lower level NL girls and RL girls are their targets so that makes sense.

This is also why the GY Guy wants Juniors and Seniors to attend Sophmore level Showcase events. He wants 2 maybe even 3 bites are the apple depending on how many times he can hold his kid back in school.

Starting to see why just adding a rule to SY that Aug and younger players must play on a team thats their grade makes sense? If you dont do this people like the GY Guy will continue to push for GY initially at events like Showcases but once this occurs the next phase will be league. Ultimately club soccer will look just like HS soccer. Which will translate into much less money for clubs because the same players will be consuming 3x the resources. Which will mean less demand from all the rest of the players/parents.

What are you talking about? If someone was in favor of GY at showcases, by definition of GY, juniors and seniors would not ever play with sophomores. I couldn’t care less what the leagues decide to do with showcases. Your statements are bizarre.

GY defines grouping by grade in school only. If a player attends sophomore year in HS then is held back 2x this means they're a Sophmore 3x.

What dont you understand?

You are saying that kids get held back more than twice after starting high school to get “3 bites of the apple” of showcases sophomore year? Again… just completely bizarre statements.

I'm explaining it in a dumbed down more extreme way. But if you want the real details the way it works in Football, Basketball, LAX. etc is parents hold their kid back in 8th grade 1 or even 2 years. Then when their a freshman theyre sometimes 16 years old. From a sports perspective the kid is 2 years older than everyone in their grade. This allows them to dominate at sports. You see it all the time at private high schools.

It’s not just private schools in cali. To make matters worse, they spend their repeat 8th grade years in “gym school”.

I wish more parents had experience in other sports specifically ones that are dominated through high school to college pathways.

If you saw how ridiculous a 6'1" 16 year old freshman is compared to a 14 year old normal feeshman you'd understand why you dont want no restrictions GY in youth soccer. Even if someone is trying to mask GY as old for showcases or whatever. It will be quickly exploited by parents.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks! I’m sure the crazies are saying this is fake, but what are the majority/realistic people saying?

Much like the Arlington FAQ the Albion update was provided by a club to update and inform parents.

This is different that a screenshot posted to reddit with no real details and names painted out with what looked like the same brush as other proven fakes from 6 months ago. Next time try harder.

That ‘brush’ is literally a standard image editing tool on an iPhone. There is nothing about it that is fake. If you had even an ounce of inside info you would know that the screenshot was legit. I can’t speak to those earlier ones (never even saw them).

There were 2 documents/screenshots that were proven to be fake and looked exactly like this one. The chances are pretty good that this one was faked as well.

Kind of interesting that everyone else has moved on accepting that it was faked but you.

Ok. You’ll be proven wrong again. Your track record is that you’ve been wrong on every single decision. Maybe sit this one out?

You've been proven to fake documents and screenshots 2x.

Sorry partially right guesses dont count.

I haven’t faked or created anything. Just commenting here like anyone else who has seen them floating around.

That being said, a ‘right guess’ is still better than always being wrong… Again, you may want to be introspective and figure out why you keep being on the wrong side of reality.

You lied + got caught + werent right. Then happened to get partially lucky with your guess.

Obviously you dont understand that lieing is wrong even if your lie happens to turn out partially correct. Something about ethics that you dont get.

The best part is I am the poster of ECNL grad year comment and have been busy and what a delight come back and see you blaming it on somone else and allow it to fry your brain just like I knew it would lol

I’m not making up anything by the way that was really told to me by my clubs ECNL director when I asked about my son who’s a July born player but started school late and his response was ECNL will have rules in place but his understanding is senior year would basically be what we are all referring to as grad year (with rules he believes as long as you are under 19 as of 8/1 you will be able to play).

This will also effect juniors for showcases as well where if you’re a junior (age rules of some type apply) you will be able to play U17 showcases but may have to play U19 for league play.

All this will come out eventually I’m just spreading the good word…

It sounds like youre the only one with a fried brain.

ECNL already has a Junior/Senior group called u18/u19

U18/19 is Juniors and seniors together they are saying it will be broken up Juniors on one showcase team and Seniors on another team.

That wont work. The reason u18/u19 exists is because juniors commit early and suddenly they dont care if the team wins or loses. If you split out the age groups it will just make the issue even worse. To address clubs will fill the gaps with lower level players that recruiters dont want to see.

That’s already happening many ECNL teams have to bring RL players to U19 showcases because the college commits don’t goto showcases.

D1 recruiting is usually wrapped up by the end of junior year so by senior it’s usually D2 and D3 watching at showcases. The lower level NL girls and RL girls are their targets so that makes sense.

This is also why the GY Guy wants Juniors and Seniors to attend Sophmore level Showcase events. He wants 2 maybe even 3 bites are the apple depending on how many times he can hold his kid back in school.

Starting to see why just adding a rule to SY that Aug and younger players must play on a team thats their grade makes sense? If you dont do this people like the GY Guy will continue to push for GY initially at events like Showcases but once this occurs the next phase will be league. Ultimately club soccer will look just like HS soccer. Which will translate into much less money for clubs because the same players will be consuming 3x the resources. Which will mean less demand from all the rest of the players/parents.

You know GY guy only exists as some weird straw man that you keep tossing out there. Just sayin.

Wish that was true. The person thats fighting so hard against a rule in SY that Aug and younger players must play on a team thats their grade is club owner or somone in US Club US Soccer etc. They know it would kill any chances of GY being implemented which is why theyre fighting so hard against it.

This is the delusional part. Nobody wants convoluted GY rules but you and you want it to help your kin.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks! I’m sure the crazies are saying this is fake, but what are the majority/realistic people saying?

Much like the Arlington FAQ the Albion update was provided by a club to update and inform parents.

This is different that a screenshot posted to reddit with no real details and names painted out with what looked like the same brush as other proven fakes from 6 months ago. Next time try harder.

That ‘brush’ is literally a standard image editing tool on an iPhone. There is nothing about it that is fake. If you had even an ounce of inside info you would know that the screenshot was legit. I can’t speak to those earlier ones (never even saw them).

There were 2 documents/screenshots that were proven to be fake and looked exactly like this one. The chances are pretty good that this one was faked as well.

Kind of interesting that everyone else has moved on accepting that it was faked but you.

Ok. You’ll be proven wrong again. Your track record is that you’ve been wrong on every single decision. Maybe sit this one out?

You've been proven to fake documents and screenshots 2x.

Sorry partially right guesses dont count.

I haven’t faked or created anything. Just commenting here like anyone else who has seen them floating around.

That being said, a ‘right guess’ is still better than always being wrong… Again, you may want to be introspective and figure out why you keep being on the wrong side of reality.

You lied + got caught + werent right. Then happened to get partially lucky with your guess.

Obviously you dont understand that lieing is wrong even if your lie happens to turn out partially correct. Something about ethics that you dont get.

The best part is I am the poster of ECNL grad year comment and have been busy and what a delight come back and see you blaming it on somone else and allow it to fry your brain just like I knew it would lol

I’m not making up anything by the way that was really told to me by my clubs ECNL director when I asked about my son who’s a July born player but started school late and his response was ECNL will have rules in place but his understanding is senior year would basically be what we are all referring to as grad year (with rules he believes as long as you are under 19 as of 8/1 you will be able to play).

This will also effect juniors for showcases as well where if you’re a junior (age rules of some type apply) you will be able to play U17 showcases but may have to play U19 for league play.

All this will come out eventually I’m just spreading the good word…

It sounds like youre the only one with a fried brain.

ECNL already has a Junior/Senior group called u18/u19

U18/19 is Juniors and seniors together they are saying it will be broken up Juniors on one showcase team and Seniors on another team.

That wont work. The reason u18/u19 exists is because juniors commit early and suddenly they dont care if the team wins or loses. If you split out the age groups it will just make the issue even worse. To address clubs will fill the gaps with lower level players that recruiters dont want to see.

That’s already happening many ECNL teams have to bring RL players to U19 showcases because the college commits don’t goto showcases.

D1 recruiting is usually wrapped up by the end of junior year so by senior it’s usually D2 and D3 watching at showcases. The lower level NL girls and RL girls are their targets so that makes sense.

This is also why the GY Guy wants Juniors and Seniors to attend Sophmore level Showcase events. He wants 2 maybe even 3 bites are the apple depending on how many times he can hold his kid back in school.

Starting to see why just adding a rule to SY that Aug and younger players must play on a team thats their grade makes sense? If you dont do this people like the GY Guy will continue to push for GY initially at events like Showcases but once this occurs the next phase will be league. Ultimately club soccer will look just like HS soccer. Which will translate into much less money for clubs because the same players will be consuming 3x the resources. Which will mean less demand from all the rest of the players/parents.

What are you talking about? If someone was in favor of GY at showcases, by definition of GY, juniors and seniors would not ever play with sophomores. I couldn’t care less what the leagues decide to do with showcases. Your statements are bizarre.

GY defines grouping by grade in school only. If a player attends sophomore year in HS then is held back 2x this means they're a Sophmore 3x.

What dont you understand?

You are saying that kids get held back more than twice after starting high school to get “3 bites of the apple” of showcases sophomore year? Again… just completely bizarre statements.

I'm explaining it in a dumbed down more extreme way. But if you want the real details the way it works in Football, Basketball, LAX. etc is parents hold their kid back in 8th grade 1 or even 2 years. Then when their a freshman theyre sometimes 16 years old. From a sports perspective the kid is 2 years older than everyone in their grade. This allows them to dominate at sports. You see it all the time at private high schools.

It’s not just private schools in cali. To make matters worse, they spend their repeat 8th grade years in “gym school”.

That’s why there are age ranges for soccer. As much as you like to worry about this changing to GY, it’s not.

The only time your kid will be competing with older kids is for college recruitment. That’s the case whether showcases are GY or not. You’re lucky you have a girl, you’d lose your mind at the ages of some of these former European academy players on the mens side.

See there you go...

It's the gentle push for GY Showcases while at the same time saying that a rule for young Aug birthdays to play with their grade isnt needed.

GY Guy knows if a rule that Aug young birthdays must play with their grade GY Showcases will never happen

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks! I’m sure the crazies are saying this is fake, but what are the majority/realistic people saying?

Much like the Arlington FAQ the Albion update was provided by a club to update and inform parents.

This is different that a screenshot posted to reddit with no real details and names painted out with what looked like the same brush as other proven fakes from 6 months ago. Next time try harder.

That ‘brush’ is literally a standard image editing tool on an iPhone. There is nothing about it that is fake. If you had even an ounce of inside info you would know that the screenshot was legit. I can’t speak to those earlier ones (never even saw them).

There were 2 documents/screenshots that were proven to be fake and looked exactly like this one. The chances are pretty good that this one was faked as well.

Kind of interesting that everyone else has moved on accepting that it was faked but you.

Ok. You’ll be proven wrong again. Your track record is that you’ve been wrong on every single decision. Maybe sit this one out?

You've been proven to fake documents and screenshots 2x.

Sorry partially right guesses dont count.

I haven’t faked or created anything. Just commenting here like anyone else who has seen them floating around.

That being said, a ‘right guess’ is still better than always being wrong… Again, you may want to be introspective and figure out why you keep being on the wrong side of reality.

You lied + got caught + werent right. Then happened to get partially lucky with your guess.

Obviously you dont understand that lieing is wrong even if your lie happens to turn out partially correct. Something about ethics that you dont get.

The best part is I am the poster of ECNL grad year comment and have been busy and what a delight come back and see you blaming it on somone else and allow it to fry your brain just like I knew it would lol

I’m not making up anything by the way that was really told to me by my clubs ECNL director when I asked about my son who’s a July born player but started school late and his response was ECNL will have rules in place but his understanding is senior year would basically be what we are all referring to as grad year (with rules he believes as long as you are under 19 as of 8/1 you will be able to play).

This will also effect juniors for showcases as well where if you’re a junior (age rules of some type apply) you will be able to play U17 showcases but may have to play U19 for league play.

All this will come out eventually I’m just spreading the good word…

It sounds like youre the only one with a fried brain.

ECNL already has a Junior/Senior group called u18/u19

U18/19 is Juniors and seniors together they are saying it will be broken up Juniors on one showcase team and Seniors on another team.

That wont work. The reason u18/u19 exists is because juniors commit early and suddenly they dont care if the team wins or loses. If you split out the age groups it will just make the issue even worse. To address clubs will fill the gaps with lower level players that recruiters dont want to see.

That’s already happening many ECNL teams have to bring RL players to U19 showcases because the college commits don’t goto showcases.

D1 recruiting is usually wrapped up by the end of junior year so by senior it’s usually D2 and D3 watching at showcases. The lower level NL girls and RL girls are their targets so that makes sense.

This is also why the GY Guy wants Juniors and Seniors to attend Sophmore level Showcase events. He wants 2 maybe even 3 bites are the apple depending on how many times he can hold his kid back in school.

Starting to see why just adding a rule to SY that Aug and younger players must play on a team thats their grade makes sense? If you dont do this people like the GY Guy will continue to push for GY initially at events like Showcases but once this occurs the next phase will be league. Ultimately club soccer will look just like HS soccer. Which will translate into much less money for clubs because the same players will be consuming 3x the resources. Which will mean less demand from all the rest of the players/parents.

What are you talking about? If someone was in favor of GY at showcases, by definition of GY, juniors and seniors would not ever play with sophomores. I couldn’t care less what the leagues decide to do with showcases. Your statements are bizarre.

GY defines grouping by grade in school only. If a player attends sophomore year in HS then is held back 2x this means they're a Sophmore 3x.

What dont you understand?

You are saying that kids get held back more than twice after starting high school to get “3 bites of the apple” of showcases sophomore year? Again… just completely bizarre statements.

I'm explaining it in a dumbed down more extreme way. But if you want the real details the way it works in Football, Basketball, LAX. etc is parents hold their kid back in 8th grade 1 or even 2 years. Then when their a freshman theyre sometimes 16 years old. From a sports perspective the kid is 2 years older than everyone in their grade. This allows them to dominate at sports. You see it all the time at private high schools.

It’s not just private schools in cali. To make matters worse, they spend their repeat 8th grade years in “gym school”.

That’s why there are age ranges for soccer. As much as you like to worry about this changing to GY, it’s not.

The only time your kid will be competing with older kids is for college recruitment. That’s the case whether showcases are GY or not. You’re lucky you have a girl, you’d lose your mind at the ages of some of these former European academy players on the mens side.

See there you go...

It's the gentle push for GY Showcases while at the same time saying that a rule for young Aug birthdays to play with their grade isnt needed.

GY Guy knows if a rule that Aug young birthdays must play with their grade GY Showcases will never happen

PP didn't push for anything. You are reading into things like to the level of hearing voices.

Other than you, I don't recall anybody wanting any grades issues made into rules. And more importantly, there is an agreed apon age range that the leagues coordinated on and no grade rules but the best can always play up.

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Hey Hi I’m the problem it’s me.

Original poster about GY showcases for ECNL.
My sons coach made it seem like there will be rules in place and that would prevent the 20 year olds from playing or things like that.

Again I don’t know all the specifics but ECNL showcases for seniors will basically be what we are calling GY (but with rules). So the majority of kids can compete their senior year.

He said most likely this will trickle down into juniors as well for showcases only. But again just saying what I was told you do not have to be convinced or fight about it.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks! I’m sure the crazies are saying this is fake, but what are the majority/realistic people saying?

Much like the Arlington FAQ the Albion update was provided by a club to update and inform parents.

This is different that a screenshot posted to reddit with no real details and names painted out with what looked like the same brush as other proven fakes from 6 months ago. Next time try harder.

That ‘brush’ is literally a standard image editing tool on an iPhone. There is nothing about it that is fake. If you had even an ounce of inside info you would know that the screenshot was legit. I can’t speak to those earlier ones (never even saw them).

There were 2 documents/screenshots that were proven to be fake and looked exactly like this one. The chances are pretty good that this one was faked as well.

Kind of interesting that everyone else has moved on accepting that it was faked but you.

Ok. You’ll be proven wrong again. Your track record is that you’ve been wrong on every single decision. Maybe sit this one out?

You've been proven to fake documents and screenshots 2x.

Sorry partially right guesses dont count.

I haven’t faked or created anything. Just commenting here like anyone else who has seen them floating around.

That being said, a ‘right guess’ is still better than always being wrong… Again, you may want to be introspective and figure out why you keep being on the wrong side of reality.

You lied + got caught + werent right. Then happened to get partially lucky with your guess.

Obviously you dont understand that lieing is wrong even if your lie happens to turn out partially correct. Something about ethics that you dont get.

The best part is I am the poster of ECNL grad year comment and have been busy and what a delight come back and see you blaming it on somone else and allow it to fry your brain just like I knew it would lol

I’m not making up anything by the way that was really told to me by my clubs ECNL director when I asked about my son who’s a July born player but started school late and his response was ECNL will have rules in place but his understanding is senior year would basically be what we are all referring to as grad year (with rules he believes as long as you are under 19 as of 8/1 you will be able to play).

This will also effect juniors for showcases as well where if you’re a junior (age rules of some type apply) you will be able to play U17 showcases but may have to play U19 for league play.

All this will come out eventually I’m just spreading the good word…

It sounds like youre the only one with a fried brain.

ECNL already has a Junior/Senior group called u18/u19

U18/19 is Juniors and seniors together they are saying it will be broken up Juniors on one showcase team and Seniors on another team.

That wont work. The reason u18/u19 exists is because juniors commit early and suddenly they dont care if the team wins or loses. If you split out the age groups it will just make the issue even worse. To address clubs will fill the gaps with lower level players that recruiters dont want to see.

That’s already happening many ECNL teams have to bring RL players to U19 showcases because the college commits don’t goto showcases.

D1 recruiting is usually wrapped up by the end of junior year so by senior it’s usually D2 and D3 watching at showcases. The lower level NL girls and RL girls are their targets so that makes sense.

This is why most 09 players are not going to want to play up next year everyone wants to be in the U17 showcases if they are eligible next year.

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Anonymous wrote:Hey Hi I’m the problem it’s me.

Original poster about GY showcases for ECNL.
My sons coach made it seem like there will be rules in place and that would prevent the 20 year olds from playing or things like that.

Again I don’t know all the specifics but ECNL showcases for seniors will basically be what we are calling GY (but with rules). So the majority of kids can compete their senior year.

He said most likely this will trickle down into juniors as well for showcases only. But again just saying what I was told you do not have to be convinced or fight about it.

Sounds like a rule similar to cif. Believe it’s 19 before June 12.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey Hi I’m the problem it’s me.

Original poster about GY showcases for ECNL.
My sons coach made it seem like there will be rules in place and that would prevent the 20 year olds from playing or things like that.

Again I don’t know all the specifics but ECNL showcases for seniors will basically be what we are calling GY (but with rules). So the majority of kids can compete their senior year.

He said most likely this will trickle down into juniors as well for showcases only. But again just saying what I was told you do not have to be convinced or fight about it.

The devil is in the details.

Do you have more info about what "GY with rules" means?

It would be interesting if ECNL forced Aug and younger birthdays to play with their grade at Showcases. This would keep the older players from playing down and all the younger players would play with their grade. Which is what college coaches want. It would also make 3 distinct levels of play Sophmore Junior Senior.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks! I’m sure the crazies are saying this is fake, but what are the majority/realistic people saying?

Much like the Arlington FAQ the Albion update was provided by a club to update and inform parents.

This is different that a screenshot posted to reddit with no real details and names painted out with what looked like the same brush as other proven fakes from 6 months ago. Next time try harder.

That ‘brush’ is literally a standard image editing tool on an iPhone. There is nothing about it that is fake. If you had even an ounce of inside info you would know that the screenshot was legit. I can’t speak to those earlier ones (never even saw them).

There were 2 documents/screenshots that were proven to be fake and looked exactly like this one. The chances are pretty good that this one was faked as well.

Kind of interesting that everyone else has moved on accepting that it was faked but you.

Ok. You’ll be proven wrong again. Your track record is that you’ve been wrong on every single decision. Maybe sit this one out?

You've been proven to fake documents and screenshots 2x.

Sorry partially right guesses dont count.

I haven’t faked or created anything. Just commenting here like anyone else who has seen them floating around.

That being said, a ‘right guess’ is still better than always being wrong… Again, you may want to be introspective and figure out why you keep being on the wrong side of reality.

You lied + got caught + werent right. Then happened to get partially lucky with your guess.

Obviously you dont understand that lieing is wrong even if your lie happens to turn out partially correct. Something about ethics that you dont get.

The best part is I am the poster of ECNL grad year comment and have been busy and what a delight come back and see you blaming it on somone else and allow it to fry your brain just like I knew it would lol

I’m not making up anything by the way that was really told to me by my clubs ECNL director when I asked about my son who’s a July born player but started school late and his response was ECNL will have rules in place but his understanding is senior year would basically be what we are all referring to as grad year (with rules he believes as long as you are under 19 as of 8/1 you will be able to play).

This will also effect juniors for showcases as well where if you’re a junior (age rules of some type apply) you will be able to play U17 showcases but may have to play U19 for league play.

All this will come out eventually I’m just spreading the good word…

It sounds like youre the only one with a fried brain.

ECNL already has a Junior/Senior group called u18/u19

U18/19 is Juniors and seniors together they are saying it will be broken up Juniors on one showcase team and Seniors on another team.

That wont work. The reason u18/u19 exists is because juniors commit early and suddenly they dont care if the team wins or loses. If you split out the age groups it will just make the issue even worse. To address clubs will fill the gaps with lower level players that recruiters dont want to see.

That’s already happening many ECNL teams have to bring RL players to U19 showcases because the college commits don’t goto showcases.

D1 recruiting is usually wrapped up by the end of junior year so by senior it’s usually D2 and D3 watching at showcases. The lower level NL girls and RL girls are their targets so that makes sense.

This is also why the GY Guy wants Juniors and Seniors to attend Sophmore level Showcase events. He wants 2 maybe even 3 bites are the apple depending on how many times he can hold his kid back in school.

Starting to see why just adding a rule to SY that Aug and younger players must play on a team thats their grade makes sense? If you dont do this people like the GY Guy will continue to push for GY initially at events like Showcases but once this occurs the next phase will be league. Ultimately club soccer will look just like HS soccer. Which will translate into much less money for clubs because the same players will be consuming 3x the resources. Which will mean less demand from all the rest of the players/parents.

What are you talking about? If someone was in favor of GY at showcases, by definition of GY, juniors and seniors would not ever play with sophomores. I couldn’t care less what the leagues decide to do with showcases. Your statements are bizarre.

GY defines grouping by grade in school only. If a player attends sophomore year in HS then is held back 2x this means they're a Sophmore 3x.

What dont you understand?

You are saying that kids get held back more than twice after starting high school to get “3 bites of the apple” of showcases sophomore year? Again… just completely bizarre statements.

I'm explaining it in a dumbed down more extreme way. But if you want the real details the way it works in Football, Basketball, LAX. etc is parents hold their kid back in 8th grade 1 or even 2 years. Then when their a freshman theyre sometimes 16 years old. From a sports perspective the kid is 2 years older than everyone in their grade. This allows them to dominate at sports. You see it all the time at private high schools.

It’s not just private schools in cali. To make matters worse, they spend their repeat 8th grade years in “gym school”.

That’s why there are age ranges for soccer. As much as you like to worry about this changing to GY, it’s not.

The only time your kid will be competing with older kids is for college recruitment. That’s the case whether showcases are GY or not. You’re lucky you have a girl, you’d lose your mind at the ages of some of these former European academy players on the mens side.

Actually have 2 boys and we’re good either way. Gy actually helps us because you’re right, we’re competing against internationals. However, see what it’s done to other sports I don’t think it’s the best way forward

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks! I’m sure the crazies are saying this is fake, but what are the majority/realistic people saying?

Much like the Arlington FAQ the Albion update was provided by a club to update and inform parents.

This is different that a screenshot posted to reddit with no real details and names painted out with what looked like the same brush as other proven fakes from 6 months ago. Next time try harder.

That ‘brush’ is literally a standard image editing tool on an iPhone. There is nothing about it that is fake. If you had even an ounce of inside info you would know that the screenshot was legit. I can’t speak to those earlier ones (never even saw them).

There were 2 documents/screenshots that were proven to be fake and looked exactly like this one. The chances are pretty good that this one was faked as well.

Kind of interesting that everyone else has moved on accepting that it was faked but you.

Ok. You’ll be proven wrong again. Your track record is that you’ve been wrong on every single decision. Maybe sit this one out?

You've been proven to fake documents and screenshots 2x.

Sorry partially right guesses dont count.

I haven’t faked or created anything. Just commenting here like anyone else who has seen them floating around.

That being said, a ‘right guess’ is still better than always being wrong… Again, you may want to be introspective and figure out why you keep being on the wrong side of reality.

You lied + got caught + werent right. Then happened to get partially lucky with your guess.

Obviously you dont understand that lieing is wrong even if your lie happens to turn out partially correct. Something about ethics that you dont get.

The best part is I am the poster of ECNL grad year comment and have been busy and what a delight come back and see you blaming it on somone else and allow it to fry your brain just like I knew it would lol

I’m not making up anything by the way that was really told to me by my clubs ECNL director when I asked about my son who’s a July born player but started school late and his response was ECNL will have rules in place but his understanding is senior year would basically be what we are all referring to as grad year (with rules he believes as long as you are under 19 as of 8/1 you will be able to play).

This will also effect juniors for showcases as well where if you’re a junior (age rules of some type apply) you will be able to play U17 showcases but may have to play U19 for league play.

All this will come out eventually I’m just spreading the good word…

It sounds like youre the only one with a fried brain.

ECNL already has a Junior/Senior group called u18/u19

U18/19 is Juniors and seniors together they are saying it will be broken up Juniors on one showcase team and Seniors on another team.

That wont work. The reason u18/u19 exists is because juniors commit early and suddenly they dont care if the team wins or loses. If you split out the age groups it will just make the issue even worse. To address clubs will fill the gaps with lower level players that recruiters dont want to see.

That’s already happening many ECNL teams have to bring RL players to U19 showcases because the college commits don’t goto showcases.

D1 recruiting is usually wrapped up by the end of junior year so by senior it’s usually D2 and D3 watching at showcases. The lower level NL girls and RL girls are their targets so that makes sense.

This is also why the GY Guy wants Juniors and Seniors to attend Sophmore level Showcase events. He wants 2 maybe even 3 bites are the apple depending on how many times he can hold his kid back in school.

Starting to see why just adding a rule to SY that Aug and younger players must play on a team thats their grade makes sense? If you dont do this people like the GY Guy will continue to push for GY initially at events like Showcases but once this occurs the next phase will be league. Ultimately club soccer will look just like HS soccer. Which will translate into much less money for clubs because the same players will be consuming 3x the resources. Which will mean less demand from all the rest of the players/parents.

What are you talking about? If someone was in favor of GY at showcases, by definition of GY, juniors and seniors would not ever play with sophomores. I couldn’t care less what the leagues decide to do with showcases. Your statements are bizarre.

GY defines grouping by grade in school only. If a player attends sophomore year in HS then is held back 2x this means they're a Sophmore 3x.

What dont you understand?

You are saying that kids get held back more than twice after starting high school to get “3 bites of the apple” of showcases sophomore year? Again… just completely bizarre statements.

I'm explaining it in a dumbed down more extreme way. But if you want the real details the way it works in Football, Basketball, LAX. etc is parents hold their kid back in 8th grade 1 or even 2 years. Then when their a freshman theyre sometimes 16 years old. From a sports perspective the kid is 2 years older than everyone in their grade. This allows them to dominate at sports. You see it all the time at private high schools.

It’s not just private schools in cali. To make matters worse, they spend their repeat 8th grade years in “gym school”.

That’s why there are age ranges for soccer. As much as you like to worry about this changing to GY, it’s not.

The only time your kid will be competing with older kids is for college recruitment. That’s the case whether showcases are GY or not. You’re lucky you have a girl, you’d lose your mind at the ages of some of these former European academy players on the mens side.

Actually have 2 boys and we’re good either way. Gy actually helps us because you’re right, we’re competing against internationals. However, see what it’s done to other sports I don’t think it’s the best way forward

The 24 year old freshman in college international Academy washouts are a different issue. I dont think even GY cheaters can compete with those type of players.

[Anonymous]

Heres the answers you've all been waiting for.

https://ourcitysc.com/docs/age_group_changes.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks! I’m sure the crazies are saying this is fake, but what are the majority/realistic people saying?

Much like the Arlington FAQ the Albion update was provided by a club to update and inform parents.

This is different that a screenshot posted to reddit with no real details and names painted out with what looked like the same brush as other proven fakes from 6 months ago. Next time try harder.

That ‘brush’ is literally a standard image editing tool on an iPhone. There is nothing about it that is fake. If you had even an ounce of inside info you would know that the screenshot was legit. I can’t speak to those earlier ones (never even saw them).

There were 2 documents/screenshots that were proven to be fake and looked exactly like this one. The chances are pretty good that this one was faked as well.

Kind of interesting that everyone else has moved on accepting that it was faked but you.

Ok. You’ll be proven wrong again. Your track record is that you’ve been wrong on every single decision. Maybe sit this one out?

You've been proven to fake documents and screenshots 2x.

Sorry partially right guesses dont count.

I haven’t faked or created anything. Just commenting here like anyone else who has seen them floating around.

That being said, a ‘right guess’ is still better than always being wrong… Again, you may want to be introspective and figure out why you keep being on the wrong side of reality.

You lied + got caught + werent right. Then happened to get partially lucky with your guess.

Obviously you dont understand that lieing is wrong even if your lie happens to turn out partially correct. Something about ethics that you dont get.

The best part is I am the poster of ECNL grad year comment and have been busy and what a delight come back and see you blaming it on somone else and allow it to fry your brain just like I knew it would lol

I’m not making up anything by the way that was really told to me by my clubs ECNL director when I asked about my son who’s a July born player but started school late and his response was ECNL will have rules in place but his understanding is senior year would basically be what we are all referring to as grad year (with rules he believes as long as you are under 19 as of 8/1 you will be able to play).

This will also effect juniors for showcases as well where if you’re a junior (age rules of some type apply) you will be able to play U17 showcases but may have to play U19 for league play.

All this will come out eventually I’m just spreading the good word…

It sounds like youre the only one with a fried brain.

ECNL already has a Junior/Senior group called u18/u19

U18/19 is Juniors and seniors together they are saying it will be broken up Juniors on one showcase team and Seniors on another team.

That wont work. The reason u18/u19 exists is because juniors commit early and suddenly they dont care if the team wins or loses. If you split out the age groups it will just make the issue even worse. To address clubs will fill the gaps with lower level players that recruiters dont want to see.

That’s already happening many ECNL teams have to bring RL players to U19 showcases because the college commits don’t goto showcases.

D1 recruiting is usually wrapped up by the end of junior year so by senior it’s usually D2 and D3 watching at showcases. The lower level NL girls and RL girls are their targets so that makes sense.

This is also why the GY Guy wants Juniors and Seniors to attend Sophmore level Showcase events. He wants 2 maybe even 3 bites are the apple depending on how many times he can hold his kid back in school.

Starting to see why just adding a rule to SY that Aug and younger players must play on a team thats their grade makes sense? If you dont do this people like the GY Guy will continue to push for GY initially at events like Showcases but once this occurs the next phase will be league. Ultimately club soccer will look just like HS soccer. Which will translate into much less money for clubs because the same players will be consuming 3x the resources. Which will mean less demand from all the rest of the players/parents.

What are you talking about? If someone was in favor of GY at showcases, by definition of GY, juniors and seniors would not ever play with sophomores. I couldn’t care less what the leagues decide to do with showcases. Your statements are bizarre.

GY defines grouping by grade in school only. If a player attends sophomore year in HS then is held back 2x this means they're a Sophmore 3x.

What dont you understand?

You are saying that kids get held back more than twice after starting high school to get “3 bites of the apple” of showcases sophomore year? Again… just completely bizarre statements.

I'm explaining it in a dumbed down more extreme way. But if you want the real details the way it works in Football, Basketball, LAX. etc is parents hold their kid back in 8th grade 1 or even 2 years. Then when their a freshman theyre sometimes 16 years old. From a sports perspective the kid is 2 years older than everyone in their grade. This allows them to dominate at sports. You see it all the time at private high schools.

It’s not just private schools in cali. To make matters worse, they spend their repeat 8th grade years in “gym school”.

That’s why there are age ranges for soccer. As much as you like to worry about this changing to GY, it’s not.

The only time your kid will be competing with older kids is for college recruitment. That’s the case whether showcases are GY or not. You’re lucky you have a girl, you’d lose your mind at the ages of some of these former European academy players on the mens side.

Actually have 2 boys and we’re good either way. Gy actually helps us because you’re right, we’re competing against internationals. However, see what it’s done to other sports I don’t think it’s the best way forward

The 24 year old freshman in college international Academy washouts are a different issue. I dont think even GY cheaters can compete with those type of players.

If you look at the proposed US/college soccer fort at college would only be for players ages 17-23.