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so what if they find out. Maybe it would be a good thing. If there are expectations on how a program should be run and people commit to follow those regulations than they shouldn't be looking to break them. Maybe it would be a lesson to the clubs to be careful about the people they are hiring and allowing to run their programs. they can do a better job of self regulating, implement compliance checks, etc. |
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^^agree. let 'em shoot themselves in the foot. You hire someone with a God complex--what do you think will happen?
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Except one of the criteria for being a DA is being free or cutting costs. D.C. United hasn't been able to do it because they still have the albatross of RFK around their necks, and yes, people are irritated about it. The DA generally does have the best players in the country. Does it mean a random group of 3 12-year-olds in the unfamiliar environment of 3v3 will look as good as Real Madrid vs. Barcelona? Anywhere other than this board, the answer would be, "No. Duh." |
Are you serious "unfamiliar environment of 3v3". It's got to be a joke. That's the foundation of how every kid starts playing, plays pick-up, small sided games in practices, and real game situations are usually down to a 3v3 scenario whether on the outside, middle of the field, around the 18. Wow please say you were kidding. |
one more time ARE YOU SERIOUS!!! unfamiliar environment. ha ha ha ha ha |
As a practice tool, sure. Tons of 3v3. In a game? It's never JUST 3v3. You always have outlets. So a 3v3 GAME is going to be a different sort of animal. Very little time and space. It's like going from full-field 11v11 to playing indoor or futsal. So yes, I'll stand by "unfamiliar environment." Even though that's a minor part of what I was saying -- which is that it's pretty ridiculous to take a random six players out of the hundreds (close to thousands) of U12 DA players in the USA, compare it to Real Madrid vs. Barcelona, and conclude that we're all doomed. There are two reasons people say that: 1. They're parents who thought their kids would dominate in soccer, and when their kids aren't superstars, they take out their frustration on the system instead of being rational and seeing that it just didn't work out. 2. They're coaches who are trying to position their brands by claiming to do things differently than the rest of the USA does. Eighty percent of those coaches are insecure liars who are terrified that people will find out that, in any European country, they'd be one of thousands of part-time or volunteer coaches working with U9s. |
| Also, FWIW, the USA is ahead of the curve in regulating heading at this age. You know it's coming in the rest of the world. |
Come on now, this was the final, you're telling me that they hadn't gotten used to or adapted to a 3v3 game after 3 games "IF" they had never been exposed to it? Again, nothing on the kids but the level of coaching is questionable or conflicts at DA with these other programs are ridiculous as previously pointed out. The coach couldn't have helped between games by saying playing 1-2 or 2-1, maintain shape building it out, be compact defending? I think the DA coaches are part of those branding themselves as this or that and wouldn't cut it in the real world of soccer. |
Wow, where to begin? 1. Oooooh, three whole games at 3v3? Yeah, they should be experts. 2. As someone else pointed out, this was the final, and conditions were bad. Tournament finals are often lousy games, anyway. Players are physically and mentally fried. 3. Wait -- are the basic skills bad, or are you saying the coach should've been able to solve things with a tactical change? In a freaking 3v3 game, the very purpose of which is to get players to think quickly for themselves. 4. When did the 3v3 coaches become DA coaches? Wasn't this something the kids were doing on their own, either before they joined the DA (which would've been 5-6 months ago for U12s) or as an allowable side project? 5. You don't build a coaching brand within the DA. You apply, and it's competitive. It's not the same as telling gullible parents to come join my session because I went to Ajax for two days, so I know things U.S. Soccer doesn't (even though U.S. Soccer has plenty of coaches who've also spent time at *gasp* European clubs). |
You answer 1 & 2 yourself with the end of 3. lol they made it to the final so they must be bigger experts than those they knocked out. All this to defend the "unfamiliar environment", like you said, kids think quickly for themselves = adapt. |
So the coaches, who aren't DA coaches to the best of our knowledge but we'll use them to generalize about the DA anyway, should've come up with better tactics in a 3v3 game in which the kids, who are just a random assortment of kids in a random tournament who happen to be among the several hundred U12s in the DA but we'll be using as the USA's analogue of Real Madrid and Barcelona's academies, should be thinking for themselves with tactical awareness and technical brilliance that, again, we're holding to the standards of a matchup of the top academies in the world and not the last game of a typical draining American tournament with too many games compressed into one weekend ... I'm sorry, I can't make sense of this. You are obviously too brilliant for us mere soccer parents to understand, and we should all withdraw our kids from whatever program they're in now. If they don't make your program, they should simply give up the game and play Minecraft all day. Thank you so much for taking time out of your busy day to explain to us how footage of a couple of random U12 kids proves that we all need to bow our heads and listen to you, o wise anonymous sage. (And I'm sorry things didn't work out at your previous club(s).) |
Again you keep making these ridiculous comments but ok. These kids were with DCA and according to their website a high rate of their players make DA squads so it's likely that they are DA players. Very likely that they were not randomly selected. Never had any issues anywhere I have been nor am I saying that I'm better than anyone else. You keep going hard about DA and it's all good. People here were just stating how certain things don't add up. You keep saying these people aren't DA coaches but according to the names on their website they match the names of the DA coaches on local VA squads. I'm not convinced at this point and that is my opinion and I'm entitled to it just like you are yours. Goodnight. |
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For fucknsakes (I'm not one of two arguing above), but switching to 3v3 is not complicated. Those triangles are Soccer 101. In fact, for a highly skilled player--they look better in small-sided games because it requires skill and better ball control.
I'd be wary of having my kid trained by a coach who argues that a 3v3 is unfamiliar. What about pick-up soccer or recess? Wtf are they doing in practices? They obviously aren't running 2v3 , 2v1, etc. A highly skilled player will shine in a 3v3 environment, one with a kickball style and poor first touch will be wildly exposed. |
Because recess is exactly the same as a game in which teams have ramped up the pressure. If you will go back and read the prior comments, you'll see that we've already established that kids will do 3v3 in practice. Totally different situation, often working on a specific coaching point. (Or so I'm told by every coach who has ever run a training session in this or any other country.) I don't care about the DA. I just find it so amusing that there are people with such bizarre insecurities that they have to make themselves feel better about themselves by dissing a couple of 12-year-olds and holding them up as an example of why this country and its coaches all suck. Seriously -- show this to someone with a modicum of soccer knowledge outside this thread and see what reaction you get. |
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