Fire in upper NW?

[Anonymous]

So the assistants dad and Wint lived one block away from each other..interesting.. Do some searching it's there

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In regards to the pizza crust being planted. Part of the the prosecution's case will be to have the bread on the crust tested as well. They can make a case that it was prepared on that night -- the age of the crust, the pizza deliverer/baker fingerprints, the makeup of the crust being similar to some disposed of in the trash at Dominoes that night.

Even tho a lot of the case may be circumstantial.... when given a lot of circumstantial evidence that is "proof". The thought is a person would have to be **really** unlucky to have a mountain of things just "happen" against them (which can seems unreasonable in the eyes of the law). Point is, DNA on the pizza (which will likely be proven to be freshly made), fingerprints on the water bottle, being in possession of the bills, lack of a reliable alibi, fleeing, and any other circumstantial evidence they MAY find - skin cells/hair in the house, traces of urine in the toilet, , etc..... all this can add up to a pretty strong prosecution.

Give up on the pizza, OK. The pizza is not going to be the most important evidence in this case.

Circumstantial evidence is proof. It is not considered any differently than other other types of evidence. It can be more reliable than ID testimony.

We have no idea what is going to be offered at trial. Its ridiculous to speculate at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In regards to the pizza crust being planted. Part of the the prosecution's case will be to have the bread on the crust tested as well. They can make a case that it was prepared on that night -- the age of the crust, the pizza deliverer/baker fingerprints, the makeup of the crust being similar to some disposed of in the trash at Dominoes that night.

Even tho a lot of the case may be circumstantial.... when given a lot of circumstantial evidence that is "proof". The thought is a person would have to be **really** unlucky to have a mountain of things just "happen" against them (which can seems unreasonable in the eyes of the law). Point is, DNA on the pizza (which will likely be proven to be freshly made), fingerprints on the water bottle, being in possession of the bills, lack of a reliable alibi, fleeing, and any other circumstantial evidence they MAY find - skin cells/hair in the house, traces of urine in the toilet, , etc..... all this can add up to a pretty strong prosecution.

Give up on the pizza, OK. The pizza is not going to be the most important evidence in this case.

Circumstantial evidence is proof. It is not considered any differently than other other types of evidence. It can be more reliable than ID testimony.

We have no idea what is going to be offered at trial. Its ridiculous to speculate at this point.

Well said

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In regards to the pizza crust being planted. Part of the the prosecution's case will be to have the bread on the crust tested as well. They can make a case that it was prepared on that night -- the age of the crust, the pizza deliverer/baker fingerprints, the makeup of the crust being similar to some disposed of in the trash at Dominoes that night.

Even tho a lot of the case may be circumstantial.... when given a lot of circumstantial evidence that is "proof". The thought is a person would have to be **really** unlucky to have a mountain of things just "happen" against them (which can seems unreasonable in the eyes of the law). Point is, DNA on the pizza (which will likely be proven to be freshly made), fingerprints on the water bottle, being in possession of the bills, lack of a reliable alibi, fleeing, and any other circumstantial evidence they MAY find - skin cells/hair in the house, traces of urine in the toilet, , etc..... all this can add up to a pretty strong prosecution.

Too bad DC does not have the death penalty. Otherwise, he would fry. On a positive note, in prison he will be at the bottom of the hiearrchy. He will either live kind of like a death row inmate or be tortured by other prisoners. Even criminals hate child killers.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else concerned that the accomplices are still out and about? And obviously rather sophisticated if they disabled a strong alarm system, subdued a large dog and so far, appear to have disappeared?

Yes! I doubt wint would of been able to disable an alarm/security system in such a way the alarm and police weren't notified when it was disabled. Maybe youtube walked him through it but I doubt it

I remember reading somewhere that at times the alarm system wasn't turned on. There's also the possibility that he forced his way in on a ruse. Some have theorized the killers were wearing green vests similar to what road workers in the area were wearing as a ruse to get someone to open the door. Vests were found in the garage and a partially burned one in the Porsche.

The cameras were turned off. Cameras don't shut off when you punch in your disarm code at the door to disarm the house alarm. The cameras were manually turned off and the DVR had to off been taken because they could retrieve the info off of it of what happened before the cameras were shut off. The security systems(dvr racks, etc) on these types of homes are usually located in the basement.

Did the fire alarm go off? Most security systems have a fire alarm, smoke and heat, they always sound locally, sometimes to an alarm office. They are NEVER deactivated when the burglar alarm is off. So if here was a burglar alarm, and no fire alarm went off, someone with knowledge of the alarm system was able to disable it entirely without sending a trouble alarm to an alarm office.

This has been a point of interest to me from the outset. What the heck is the point of such a system if it failed in every way to provide security.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that people worried about there only being a pizza crust as evidence are wrong that this guy might walk. These are some dumb and unsophisticated criminals. I am going to guess these idiots were using their cellphones all over the place and that they left additional evidence at the scene and at home. Wint probably googled SS's address recently. There are surveillance cameras everywhere. The police are just keeping tight wraps on the evidence at this time. Wint and anyone else involved will be convicted. Relax

Yup, I think they only needed to put in enough to get the warrant and get the case sealed. The rest is under wraps as you say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the assistants dad and Wint lived one block away from each other..interesting.. Do some searching it's there

Would love to know the assistants name.

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Anonymous wrote:So the assistants dad and Wint lived one block away from each other..interesting.. Do some searching it's there

Yikes, I'm not up to that level of research, so will just take your word for it. I feel the assistant is innocent of any crime, but have a thought.

Would a box truck like the one accompanying Wint be used in the race car circuit? I forget the name of the truck company, but they apparently are set up to provide roadside automotive support. Would a truck like that be used to provide mechanical support at a race?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In regards to the pizza crust being planted. Part of the the prosecution's case will be to have the bread on the crust tested as well. They can make a case that it was prepared on that night -- the age of the crust, the pizza deliverer/baker fingerprints, the makeup of the crust being similar to some disposed of in the trash at Dominoes that night.

Even tho a lot of the case may be circumstantial.... when given a lot of circumstantial evidence that is "proof". The thought is a person would have to be **really** unlucky to have a mountain of things just "happen" against them (which can seems unreasonable in the eyes of the law). Point is, DNA on the pizza (which will likely be proven to be freshly made), fingerprints on the water bottle, being in possession of the bills, lack of a reliable alibi, fleeing, and any other circumstantial evidence they MAY find - skin cells/hair in the house, traces of urine in the toilet, , etc..... all this can add up to a pretty strong prosecution.

Too bad DC does not have the death penalty. Otherwise, he would fry. On a positive note, in prison he will be at the bottom of the hiearrchy. He will either live kind of like a death row inmate or be tortured by other prisoners. Even criminals hate child killers.

If DC had the death penalty. then he would likely spend the rest of his life in prison, while millions of taxpayer dollars would be spent on appeals.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In regards to the pizza crust being planted. Part of the the prosecution's case will be to have the bread on the crust tested as well. They can make a case that it was prepared on that night -- the age of the crust, the pizza deliverer/baker fingerprints, the makeup of the crust being similar to some disposed of in the trash at Dominoes that night.

Even tho a lot of the case may be circumstantial.... when given a lot of circumstantial evidence that is "proof". The thought is a person would have to be **really** unlucky to have a mountain of things just "happen" against them (which can seems unreasonable in the eyes of the law). Point is, DNA on the pizza (which will likely be proven to be freshly made), fingerprints on the water bottle, being in possession of the bills, lack of a reliable alibi, fleeing, and any other circumstantial evidence they MAY find - skin cells/hair in the house, traces of urine in the toilet, , etc..... all this can add up to a pretty strong prosecution.

I am hopeful!

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that people worried about there only being a pizza crust as evidence are wrong that this guy might walk. These are some dumb and unsophisticated criminals. I am going to guess these idiots were using their cellphones all over the place and that they left additional evidence at the scene and at home. Wint probably googled SS's address recently. There are surveillance cameras everywhere. The police are just keeping tight wraps on the evidence at this time. Wint and anyone else involved will be convicted. Relax

+1000. I have watched the person of interest video several times. The person appears to be lankier than the pics I have seen of Daron Wint. Daron appears to have wider shoulders. The person looks more like the brother.

Which brother, in your opinion? Someone said he had 2 brothers. Also, wouldn't DNA be all over this car, even if it was wiped down/ burnt? Maybe the brother (name? ) and Wint try to constantly fool and confuse, impersonating each other every time they commit crimes, so they can never be nailed? Maybe Wint photoshops his pictures so he looks macho, instead of the 5'7 punk with a knife that he is. Additionally, does anyone remember the OJ murder trial where the jury not only couldn't understand DNA really, but got revenge for Rodney King or aome such thing? The evidence was so slam dunk in that case, but the prosecutors screwed up by moving it to downtown. LA instead of Santa Monica. So people who say there is no way he will walk...well, we all said that in LA.

I believe the avg person has watched so many SVU shows that the evidence will prevail. We are talking about 19 years later. No doubt...different jurors.

[Anonymous]

Yes that box truck is really interesting. What was the idea there?

[Anonymous]

In terms of the disabling of the security system: is this something Wint could have forced SS to do himself? Say at gun or knife point?

(such a sickening crime, I feel horrible just picturing this)

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Anonymous wrote:So the assistants dad and Wint lived one block away from each other..interesting.. Do some searching it's there

Would love to know the assistants name.

Check out webslueths forum; also has his photo.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that people worried about there only being a pizza crust as evidence are wrong that this guy might walk. These are some dumb and unsophisticated criminals. I am going to guess these idiots were using their cellphones all over the place and that they left additional evidence at the scene and at home. Wint probably googled SS's address recently. There are surveillance cameras everywhere. The police are just keeping tight wraps on the evidence at this time. Wint and anyone else involved will be convicted. Relax

+1000. I have watched the person of interest video several times. The person appears to be lankier than the pics I have seen of Daron Wint. Daron appears to have wider shoulders. The person looks more like the brother.

Which brother, in your opinion? Someone said he had 2 brothers. Also, wouldn't DNA be all over this car, even if it was wiped down/ burnt? Maybe the brother (name? ) and Wint try to constantly fool and confuse, impersonating each other every time they commit crimes, so they can never be nailed? Maybe Wint photoshops his pictures so he looks macho, instead of the 5'7 punk with a knife that he is. Additionally, does anyone remember the OJ murder trial where the jury not only couldn't understand DNA really, but got revenge for Rodney King or aome such thing? The evidence was so slam dunk in that case, but the prosecutors screwed up by moving it to downtown. LA instead of Santa Monica. So people who say there is no way he will walk...well, we all said that in LA.

Starts with an "S." He took his profile down after the arrest. However, I do not want to type his name in case he is innocent.