Fire in upper NW?

[Anonymous]

I am stuck on the dog. If the dog was outside the entire time, including overnight, wouldn't she have been barking and annoying the neighbors? Mine bark when they want to come in, and get pretty insistent if I'm not fast enough. No way would they spend 19 hours in the yard quietly. If the dog was used to being in the house, I think she would have made a lot of noise, enough that a neighbor would have done something.

[Anonymous]

We have a home security system. However, after these crimes definitely investing in cameras as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am stuck on the dog. If the dog was outside the entire time, including overnight, wouldn't she have been barking and annoying the neighbors? Mine bark when they want to come in, and get pretty insistent if I'm not fast enough. No way would they spend 19 hours in the yard quietly. If the dog was used to being in the house, I think she would have made a lot of noise, enough that a neighbor would have done something.

Dogs have varying personalities. My dog doesn't bark, ever, unless he's physically hurt, and loves to be outside, so he'd just chill.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am stuck on the dog. If the dog was outside the entire time, including overnight, wouldn't she have been barking and annoying the neighbors? Mine bark when they want to come in, and get pretty insistent if I'm not fast enough. No way would they spend 19 hours in the yard quietly. If the dog was used to being in the house, I think she would have made a lot of noise, enough that a neighbor would have done something.

Dogs have varying personalities. My dog doesn't bark, ever, unless he's physically hurt, and loves to be outside, so he'd just chill.

My dogs would bark. However, I am watching my nephew's dogs. He lives next door to me. They have two labs and they rarely bark. He also has an automatic water dispenser. I do not find the dogs behavior odd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am stuck on the dog. If the dog was outside the entire time, including overnight, wouldn't she have been barking and annoying the neighbors? Mine bark when they want to come in, and get pretty insistent if I'm not fast enough. No way would they spend 19 hours in the yard quietly. If the dog was used to being in the house, I think she would have made a lot of noise, enough that a neighbor would have done something.

I've wondered that too.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am stuck on the dog. If the dog was outside the entire time, including overnight, wouldn't she have been barking and annoying the neighbors? Mine bark when they want to come in, and get pretty insistent if I'm not fast enough. No way would they spend 19 hours in the yard quietly. If the dog was used to being in the house, I think she would have made a lot of noise, enough that a neighbor would have done something.

Dogs have varying personalities. My dog doesn't bark, ever, unless he's physically hurt, and loves to be outside, so he'd just chill.

My dogs would bark. However, I am watching my nephew's dogs. He lives next door to me. They have two labs and they rarely bark. He also has an automatic water dispenser. I do not find the dogs behavior odd.

But 19 hours without eating? Any dog would get agitated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, doesn't the neighborhood have a private security guard who patrols the area in a car? Do they patrol 24 hours/day, does anyone know? I wonder if he/she saw anything?

I read somewhere that the patrol is more focused on the other end of the street, I guess closer to the embassies.

It's heartbreaking that there were so many protections in place, but nothing helped these poor innocent people.

I never understood what that security added - it's basically a rent a cop type firm w/ one guy driving around a big neighborhood. I used to jog through the neighborhood daily, and the security always seemed to be in the same places at the same times, which seemed pretty predictable & useless!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am stuck on the dog. If the dog was outside the entire time, including overnight, wouldn't she have been barking and annoying the neighbors? Mine bark when they want to come in, and get pretty insistent if I'm not fast enough. No way would they spend 19 hours in the yard quietly. If the dog was used to being in the house, I think she would have made a lot of noise, enough that a neighbor would have done something.

Dogs have varying personalities. My dog doesn't bark, ever, unless he's physically hurt, and loves to be outside, so he'd just chill.

My dogs would bark. However, I am watching my nephew's dogs. He lives next door to me. They have two labs and they rarely bark. He also has an automatic water dispenser. I do not find the dogs behavior odd.

But 19 hours without eating? Any dog would get agitated.

Maybe they drugged the dogs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am stuck on the dog. If the dog was outside the entire time, including overnight, wouldn't she have been barking and annoying the neighbors? Mine bark when they want to come in, and get pretty insistent if I'm not fast enough. No way would they spend 19 hours in the yard quietly. If the dog was used to being in the house, I think she would have made a lot of noise, enough that a neighbor would have done something.

Dogs have varying personalities. My dog doesn't bark, ever, unless he's physically hurt, and loves to be outside, so he'd just chill.

My dogs would bark. However, I am watching my nephew's dogs. He lives next door to me. They have two labs and they rarely bark. He also has an automatic water dispenser. I do not find the dogs behavior odd.

But 19 hours without eating? Any dog would get agitated.

Automatic feeder?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am stuck on the dog. If the dog was outside the entire time, including overnight, wouldn't she have been barking and annoying the neighbors? Mine bark when they want to come in, and get pretty insistent if I'm not fast enough. No way would they spend 19 hours in the yard quietly. If the dog was used to being in the house, I think she would have made a lot of noise, enough that a neighbor would have done something.

Dogs have varying personalities. My dog doesn't bark, ever, unless he's physically hurt, and loves to be outside, so he'd just chill.

My dogs would bark. However, I am watching my nephew's dogs. He lives next door to me. They have two labs and they rarely bark. He also has an automatic water dispenser. I do not find the dogs behavior odd.

But 19 hours without eating? Any dog would get agitated.

Maybe they drugged the dogs.

That's what I was thinking...

[Anonymous]

Sounds crazy but the family seemed nice and may have mentioned the dogs needed to be fed. The people were crazy enough to order pizza. Perhaps, the family convinced them to feed the dogs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sounds crazy but the family seemed nice and may have mentioned the dogs needed to be fed. The people were crazy enough to order pizza. Perhaps, the family convinced them to feed the dogs.

Yes, if only to keep the dogs quiet and from becoming aggressive or a distraction. It's possible, I guess.

[Anonymous]

In regards to the pizza crust being planted. Part of the the prosecution's case will be to have the bread on the crust tested as well. They can make a case that it was prepared on that night -- the age of the crust, the pizza deliverer/baker fingerprints, the makeup of the crust being similar to some disposed of in the trash at Dominoes that night.

Even tho a lot of the case may be circumstantial.... when given a lot of circumstantial evidence that is "proof". The thought is a person would have to be **really** unlucky to have a mountain of things just "happen" against them (which can seems unreasonable in the eyes of the law). Point is, DNA on the pizza (which will likely be proven to be freshly made), fingerprints on the water bottle, being in possession of the bills, lack of a reliable alibi, fleeing, and any other circumstantial evidence they MAY find - skin cells/hair in the house, traces of urine in the toilet, , etc..... all this can add up to a pretty strong prosecution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In regards to the pizza crust being planted. Part of the the prosecution's case will be to have the bread on the crust tested as well. They can make a case that it was prepared on that night -- the age of the crust, the pizza deliverer/baker fingerprints, the makeup of the crust being similar to some disposed of in the trash at Dominoes that night.

Even tho a lot of the case may be circumstantial.... when given a lot of circumstantial evidence that is "proof". The thought is a person would have to be **really** unlucky to have a mountain of things just "happen" against them (which can seems unreasonable in the eyes of the law). Point is, DNA on the pizza (which will likely be proven to be freshly made), fingerprints on the water bottle, being in possession of the bills, lack of a reliable alibi, fleeing, and any other circumstantial evidence they MAY find - skin cells/hair in the house, traces of urine in the toilet, , etc..... all this can add up to a pretty strong prosecution.

Yes, it's not just "proof," it's proof. Circumstantial evidence is evidence, and it's how most cases are proven.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that people worried about there only being a pizza crust as evidence are wrong that this guy might walk. These are some dumb and unsophisticated criminals. I am going to guess these idiots were using their cellphones all over the place and that they left additional evidence at the scene and at home. Wint probably googled SS's address recently. There are surveillance cameras everywhere. The police are just keeping tight wraps on the evidence at this time. Wint and anyone else involved will be convicted. Relax

+1000. I have watched the person of interest video several times. The person appears to be lankier than the pics I have seen of Daron Wint. Daron appears to have wider shoulders. The person looks more like the brother.

Which brother, in your opinion? Someone said he had 2 brothers. Also, wouldn't DNA be all over this car, even if it was wiped down/ burnt? Maybe the brother (name? ) and Wint try to constantly fool and confuse, impersonating each other every time they commit crimes, so they can never be nailed? Maybe Wint photoshops his pictures so he looks macho, instead of the 5'7 punk with a knife that he is. Additionally, does anyone remember the OJ murder trial where the jury not only couldn't understand DNA really, but got revenge for Rodney King or aome such thing? The evidence was so slam dunk in that case, but the prosecutors screwed up by moving it to downtown. LA instead of Santa Monica. So people who say there is no way he will walk...well, we all said that in LA.