Valor

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Saw a valor "silver" (5th? 6th?) team in the wild this weekend as we waited for the nexr game. Completely useless coach and the entire team lacked any athletic ability let alone any soccer skill. Any group of boys after a full year of even mediocre coaching should look way better.

Oh yeah…they got crushed. Even there black team. All almost shut outs, but hey if they enjoy hotels, get to play a few times week and hang with friends …whats $2500-$3000 to anyone a season who has zero expectation on increased development or performance. Am I right!

I think the silver team has a lot of kids who just started travel soccer this year, or even just this spring. Lots of turnover on the lower end of that age group. The black team probably has kids who used to be on silver, but only got moved up because of kids leaving. I don't know what happened with that age group but it seems that they have always struggled. Some of the coaches also coach other teams at Valor that are more competitive, so it's hard to say whether coaching is the main problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Saw a valor "silver" (5th? 6th?) team in the wild this weekend as we waited for the nexr game. Completely useless coach and the entire team lacked any athletic ability let alone any soccer skill. Any group of boys after a full year of even mediocre coaching should look way better.

Oh yeah…they got crushed. Even there black team. All almost shut outs, but hey if they enjoy hotels, get to play a few times week and hang with friends …whats $2500-$3000 to anyone a season who has zero expectation on increased development or performance. Am I right!

I don't know why you keep harping over the $3k. Are you poor? I've driven carpool for multiple teams over the years and I pick up a lot of kids at 2+ million dollar homes. There is no difference between $3k and the $2.2k or whatever other clubs charge. That pocket change is worth it for convenience of closer fields and playing with other kids from the same elementary/middle school pyramid. The kids like to play, they don't care that they are in division 8 or whatever. Why does it bother you so much?

[Anonymous]

Oh and I know they do offer financial aid to kids who need it - so maybe that's part of why it costs more for the rest who don't.

[Anonymous]

These people have been all over the rec practices trying to poach kids off the rec teams. My child, who is good but not great, was asked to join (not to try out, but flat out to join) valor. No thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh and I know they do offer financial aid to kids who need it - so maybe that's part of why it costs more for the rest who don't.

Yeah thats definitely not it. The scholarships are very meager-- and they charge families to apply!

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Again with the cost difference. When you factor in everything it's a few hundred dollars more at most. For most people adding an extra hour (30 min each way) 3 times a week transportation costs plus time is more than worth a few hundred dollars. And the nonsense with the no development. At young ages all kids need are touches on the ball. If they aren't improving by even just scrimmaging 3 times a week they aren't going to be good no matter how much you want to throw at private training.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Again with the cost difference. When you factor in everything it's a few hundred dollars more at most. For most people adding an extra hour (30 min each way) 3 times a week transportation costs plus time is more than worth a few hundred dollars. And the nonsense with the no development. At young ages all kids need are touches on the ball. If they aren't improving by even just scrimmaging 3 times a week they aren't going to be good no matter how much you want to throw at private training.

Most people live just as close to reputable clubs as they do to Valor.

And, many wealthy people still want value for their fees and that includes actual soccer training. If you want to overpay so your kids can play expensive rec and not improve at soccer, well, you are Valor's target customer so glad you are both happy!)

Did not realize Centreville housing stock had so many $2 million houses lol.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These people have been all over the rec practices trying to poach kids off the rec teams. My child, who is good but not great, was asked to join (not to try out, but flat out to join) valor. No thank you.

I just came to post about this. Some Valor weirdo showed up at my friend's dc's rec team practice and started asking kids for their names. It sounded very creep-tastic. They didn't even approach the coach first. The rec families have no relationship with Valor--they play for CYA or SYA and there shouldn't be strangers skulking around rec practices talking to the kids!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Again with the cost difference. When you factor in everything it's a few hundred dollars more at most. For most people adding an extra hour (30 min each way) 3 times a week transportation costs plus time is more than worth a few hundred dollars. And the nonsense with the no development. At young ages all kids need are touches on the ball. If they aren't improving by even just scrimmaging 3 times a week they aren't going to be good no matter how much you want to throw at private training.

Most people live just as close to reputable clubs as they do to Valor.

And, many wealthy people still want value for their fees and that includes actual soccer training. If you want to overpay so your kids can play expensive rec and not improve at soccer, well, you are Valor's target customer so glad you are both happy!)

Did not realize Centreville housing stock had so many $2 million houses lol.

Again if your child is not improving even with a bad coach playing 3 times a week, your child will never be very good.

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There are plenty of good rec kids who might be interested in travel soccer if it was mentioned to them. The majority of travel programs look to their own rec programs because to some degree it is a partnership. Two of the best players on my son's team are Hispanic and their parents didn't know (or maybe understand) what travel soccer was until the coach went and watched some rec games when they were going into U10. I see absolutely no issue here. If a coach from any club was strolling around another club's rec fields, that's creepy. Valor coaches watching CYA or SYA rec is totally logical.

[Anonymous]

I love the smell of desperation in the morning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are plenty of good rec kids who might be interested in travel soccer if it was mentioned to them. The majority of travel programs look to their own rec programs because to some degree it is a partnership. Two of the best players on my son's team are Hispanic and their parents didn't know (or maybe understand) what travel soccer was until the coach went and watched some rec games when they were going into U10. I see absolutely no issue here. If a coach from any club was strolling around another club's rec fields, that's creepy. Valor coaches watching CYA or SYA rec is totally logical.

Valor is not SYA or CYA. Valor was created to be a completely separate org so the head Valor guys could pay themselves a lot more.

[Anonymous]

I would be furious if some random Valor coach was sneaking around my child's rec practice trying to talk to them. That's extremely disturbing. We want nothing to do with such an unscrupulous organization.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Again with the cost difference. When you factor in everything it's a few hundred dollars more at most. For most people adding an extra hour (30 min each way) 3 times a week transportation costs plus time is more than worth a few hundred dollars. And the nonsense with the no development. At young ages all kids need are touches on the ball. If they aren't improving by even just scrimmaging 3 times a week they aren't going to be good no matter how much you want to throw at private training.

Most people live just as close to reputable clubs as they do to Valor.

And, many wealthy people still want value for their fees and that includes actual soccer training. If you want to overpay so your kids can play expensive rec and not improve at soccer, well, you are Valor's target customer so glad you are both happy!)

Did not realize Centreville housing stock had so many $2 million houses lol.

Name one of these “reputable” clubs and give us a definition of what “reputable” means.

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Oh, literally any other club. Valor is the only place on here with 300+ pages of complaints. That's literally the opposite of reputable. You wouldn't eat at a restaurant with this many complaints!