New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

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Anonymous wrote:this cannot be real. the GA hats told me GA was kick a$$ and taking names

https://x.com/ImYouthSoccer/status/1934400532094886146

Its not real, and a perfect example of why iamsoccer dork is ridiculous.

In the 2024 GA season there were over 300 (I stopped counting at 300) college commitments. The numbers are listed right on their site.
https://girlsacademyleague.com/class-of-2024/

Iamsoccerdork has 82 2025 GA commitments listed. Its 100% clear that the ECNL coach is pulling a fast one.

But his numbers is "verbal commitment", and it's 2026. I don't know what that means, but didn't Olivia Moultrie commit to UNC when she was 12 or something ?

You can see why iamsoccers posts are so annoying. This is nothing more than a list of verbal commitments players from different clubs have announced likely on meta, insta, or X. Its weird that an ECNL coach has spends this much time looking at underage girls posts online.

Then to post something that makes it look like GA clubs have 10% of the numbers as ECNL when less than 10% of GA college commitments are posted is very misleading.

You end up with new parents making club decisions based on information iamsoccer knows isnt true or isnt the full picture. Ie cherry picked data. Which is the ECNL coaches intention.

oh the bitterness.

Bitterness or calling out intentionally deceptive ECNL "marketing".

Easy to call something deceptive. Hard to provide actual data showing that the analysis is wrong.

Is there hard data showing that GA is actually performing better right now than ECNL in the mid-tier in getting college commitments for the league's players? Hard data showing more GA players are getting commitments generally than ECNL players, or that the numbers are comparable? I'd love to see it. All I've seen is some claims about a positive trend for GA, and a hopefulness that will continue to the point where things eventually even out, or GA even (at some point in the future, aspirationally) passes ECNL.

Proof is in the pudding.

https://girlsacademyleague.com/class-of-2024/

Congratulations to the Class of 2024! In total, more than 700 athletes will continue their soccer journey in college with over 90 Girls Academy clubs represented

More than 700 (which includes D1, D2, D2, NAIA, etc.) out of how many in total? When you realize the denominator, you'll realize that stat isn't as impressive as you thought it once was.

bingo. wonder why GA left the total number of GA players in the league out? lmao

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:this cannot be real. the GA hats told me GA was kick a$$ and taking names

https://x.com/ImYouthSoccer/status/1934400532094886146

Its not real, and a perfect example of why iamsoccer dork is ridiculous.

In the 2024 GA season there were over 300 (I stopped counting at 300) college commitments. The numbers are listed right on their site.
https://girlsacademyleague.com/class-of-2024/

Iamsoccerdork has 82 2025 GA commitments listed. Its 100% clear that the ECNL coach is pulling a fast one.

But his numbers is "verbal commitment", and it's 2026. I don't know what that means, but didn't Olivia Moultrie commit to UNC when she was 12 or something ?

You can see why iamsoccers posts are so annoying. This is nothing more than a list of verbal commitments players from different clubs have announced likely on meta, insta, or X. Its weird that an ECNL coach has spends this much time looking at underage girls posts online.

Then to post something that makes it look like GA clubs have 10% of the numbers as ECNL when less than 10% of GA college commitments are posted is very misleading.

You end up with new parents making club decisions based on information iamsoccer knows isnt true or isnt the full picture. Ie cherry picked data. Which is the ECNL coaches intention.

oh the bitterness.

Bitterness or calling out intentionally deceptive ECNL "marketing".

Easy to call something deceptive. Hard to provide actual data showing that the analysis is wrong.

Is there hard data showing that GA is actually performing better right now than ECNL in the mid-tier in getting college commitments for the league's players? Hard data showing more GA players are getting commitments generally than ECNL players, or that the numbers are comparable? I'd love to see it. All I've seen is some claims about a positive trend for GA, and a hopefulness that will continue to the point where things eventually even out, or GA even (at some point in the future, aspirationally) passes ECNL.

Proof is in the pudding.

https://girlsacademyleague.com/class-of-2024/

Congratulations to the Class of 2024! In total, more than 700 athletes will continue their soccer journey in college with over 90 Girls Academy clubs represented

More than 700 (which includes D1, D2, D2, NAIA, etc.) out of how many in total? When you realize the denominator, you'll realize that stat isn't as impressive as you thought it once was.

bingo. wonder why GA left the total number of GA players in the league out? lmao

GA had 15ish less clubs than ECNL last season. Your denominator theory doesnt pencil out.

[Anonymous]

I love that there is a thread over 300 pages long with parents arguing which youth soccer league is better. What a time to be alive!

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Isn’t the best league the one that brings in the most money? What other measure is there to evaluate two competing businesses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love that there is a thread over 300 pages long with parents arguing which youth soccer league is better. What a time to be alive!

Easier/less stressful to argue over youth soccer leagues vs. the true issues of the day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t the best league the one that brings in the most money? What other measure is there to evaluate two competing businesses.

Not if you're the customer.

[Anonymous]

Some things never change.

With my oldest I remember back in the DA days when they would say the same type of things to ECNL parents. Now it seems like ECNL has gained some ground and is doing it to GA parents.

The GA parents are right to push back on the ECNL parents overstatements of its grandeur. I dont know why some of them do this. They just end up looking dumb when called out.

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Anonymous wrote:this cannot be real. the GA hats told me GA was kick a$$ and taking names

https://x.com/ImYouthSoccer/status/1934400532094886146

Its not real, and a perfect example of why iamsoccer dork is ridiculous.

In the 2024 GA season there were over 300 (I stopped counting at 300) college commitments. The numbers are listed right on their site.
https://girlsacademyleague.com/class-of-2024/

Iamsoccerdork has 82 2025 GA commitments listed. Its 100% clear that the ECNL coach is pulling a fast one.

But his numbers is "verbal commitment", and it's 2026. I don't know what that means, but didn't Olivia Moultrie commit to UNC when she was 12 or something ?

You can see why iamsoccers posts are so annoying. This is nothing more than a list of verbal commitments players from different clubs have announced likely on meta, insta, or X. Its weird that an ECNL coach has spends this much time looking at underage girls posts online.

Then to post something that makes it look like GA clubs have 10% of the numbers as ECNL when less than 10% of GA college commitments are posted is very misleading.

You end up with new parents making club decisions based on information iamsoccer knows isnt true or isnt the full picture. Ie cherry picked data. Which is the ECNL coaches intention.

oh the bitterness.

Bitterness or calling out intentionally deceptive ECNL "marketing".

Easy to call something deceptive. Hard to provide actual data showing that the analysis is wrong.

Is there hard data showing that GA is actually performing better right now than ECNL in the mid-tier in getting college commitments for the league's players? Hard data showing more GA players are getting commitments generally than ECNL players, or that the numbers are comparable? I'd love to see it. All I've seen is some claims about a positive trend for GA, and a hopefulness that will continue to the point where things eventually even out, or GA even (at some point in the future, aspirationally) passes ECNL.

Proof is in the pudding.

https://girlsacademyleague.com/class-of-2024/

Congratulations to the Class of 2024! In total, more than 700 athletes will continue their soccer journey in college with over 90 Girls Academy clubs represented

More than 700 (which includes D1, D2, D2, NAIA, etc.) out of how many in total? When you realize the denominator, you'll realize that stat isn't as impressive as you thought it once was.

700 GA college commitments is an impressive number no matter how you try to diminish it.

Wasn't trying to diminish anything. Just trying to show perspective.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love that there is a thread over 300 pages long with parents arguing which youth soccer league is better. What a time to be alive!

Easier/less stressful to argue over youth soccer leagues vs. the true issues of the day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:this cannot be real. the GA hats told me GA was kick a$$ and taking names

https://x.com/ImYouthSoccer/status/1934400532094886146

Its not real, and a perfect example of why iamsoccer dork is ridiculous.

In the 2024 GA season there were over 300 (I stopped counting at 300) college commitments. The numbers are listed right on their site.
https://girlsacademyleague.com/class-of-2024/

Iamsoccerdork has 82 2025 GA commitments listed. Its 100% clear that the ECNL coach is pulling a fast one.

But his numbers is "verbal commitment", and it's 2026. I don't know what that means, but didn't Olivia Moultrie commit to UNC when she was 12 or something ?

You can see why iamsoccers posts are so annoying. This is nothing more than a list of verbal commitments players from different clubs have announced likely on meta, insta, or X. Its weird that an ECNL coach has spends this much time looking at underage girls posts online.

Then to post something that makes it look like GA clubs have 10% of the numbers as ECNL when less than 10% of GA college commitments are posted is very misleading.

You end up with new parents making club decisions based on information iamsoccer knows isnt true or isnt the full picture. Ie cherry picked data. Which is the ECNL coaches intention.

oh the bitterness.

Bitterness or calling out intentionally deceptive ECNL "marketing".

Easy to call something deceptive. Hard to provide actual data showing that the analysis is wrong.

Is there hard data showing that GA is actually performing better right now than ECNL in the mid-tier in getting college commitments for the league's players? Hard data showing more GA players are getting commitments generally than ECNL players, or that the numbers are comparable? I'd love to see it. All I've seen is some claims about a positive trend for GA, and a hopefulness that will continue to the point where things eventually even out, or GA even (at some point in the future, aspirationally) passes ECNL.

Proof is in the pudding.

https://girlsacademyleague.com/class-of-2024/

Congratulations to the Class of 2024! In total, more than 700 athletes will continue their soccer journey in college with over 90 Girls Academy clubs represented

More than 700 (which includes D1, D2, D2, NAIA, etc.) out of how many in total? When you realize the denominator, you'll realize that stat isn't as impressive as you thought it once was.

bingo. wonder why GA left the total number of GA players in the league out? lmao

GA had 15ish less clubs than ECNL last season. Your denominator theory doesnt pencil out.

The denominator was how many HS kids committed across all the groups (D1, D2, D3, JUCO, NAIA, etc.) in total? When you see that 700 number was against that total universe of kids, you'll see it's small. Perhaps its growing, and will continue to grow in the future. Not stating it won't, just that as of today, GA is small fish.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:this cannot be real. the GA hats told me GA was kick a$$ and taking names

https://x.com/ImYouthSoccer/status/1934400532094886146

Its not real, and a perfect example of why iamsoccer dork is ridiculous.

In the 2024 GA season there were over 300 (I stopped counting at 300) college commitments. The numbers are listed right on their site.
https://girlsacademyleague.com/class-of-2024/

Iamsoccerdork has 82 2025 GA commitments listed. Its 100% clear that the ECNL coach is pulling a fast one.

But his numbers is "verbal commitment", and it's 2026. I don't know what that means, but didn't Olivia Moultrie commit to UNC when she was 12 or something ?

You can see why iamsoccers posts are so annoying. This is nothing more than a list of verbal commitments players from different clubs have announced likely on meta, insta, or X. Its weird that an ECNL coach has spends this much time looking at underage girls posts online.

Then to post something that makes it look like GA clubs have 10% of the numbers as ECNL when less than 10% of GA college commitments are posted is very misleading.

You end up with new parents making club decisions based on information iamsoccer knows isnt true or isnt the full picture. Ie cherry picked data. Which is the ECNL coaches intention.

oh the bitterness.

Bitterness or calling out intentionally deceptive ECNL "marketing".

Easy to call something deceptive. Hard to provide actual data showing that the analysis is wrong.

Is there hard data showing that GA is actually performing better right now than ECNL in the mid-tier in getting college commitments for the league's players? Hard data showing more GA players are getting commitments generally than ECNL players, or that the numbers are comparable? I'd love to see it. All I've seen is some claims about a positive trend for GA, and a hopefulness that will continue to the point where things eventually even out, or GA even (at some point in the future, aspirationally) passes ECNL.

Proof is in the pudding.

https://girlsacademyleague.com/class-of-2024/

Congratulations to the Class of 2024! In total, more than 700 athletes will continue their soccer journey in college with over 90 Girls Academy clubs represented

More than 700 (which includes D1, D2, D2, NAIA, etc.) out of how many in total? When you realize the denominator, you'll realize that stat isn't as impressive as you thought it once was.

700 GA college commitments is an impressive number no matter how you try to diminish it.

Wasn't trying to diminish anything. Just trying to show perspective.

What perspective are you trying to show?

ECNL doesnt publish committment numbers and in 2024 GA had less teams than ECNL.

The denominator you're referring to is meaningless without a comparison number. If you want to compare GA to its previous years commitment numbers they've gone up every season since inception of the league.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:this cannot be real. the GA hats told me GA was kick a$$ and taking names

https://x.com/ImYouthSoccer/status/1934400532094886146

Its not real, and a perfect example of why iamsoccer dork is ridiculous.

In the 2024 GA season there were over 300 (I stopped counting at 300) college commitments. The numbers are listed right on their site.
https://girlsacademyleague.com/class-of-2024/

Iamsoccerdork has 82 2025 GA commitments listed. Its 100% clear that the ECNL coach is pulling a fast one.

But his numbers is "verbal commitment", and it's 2026. I don't know what that means, but didn't Olivia Moultrie commit to UNC when she was 12 or something ?

You can see why iamsoccers posts are so annoying. This is nothing more than a list of verbal commitments players from different clubs have announced likely on meta, insta, or X. Its weird that an ECNL coach has spends this much time looking at underage girls posts online.

Then to post something that makes it look like GA clubs have 10% of the numbers as ECNL when less than 10% of GA college commitments are posted is very misleading.

You end up with new parents making club decisions based on information iamsoccer knows isnt true or isnt the full picture. Ie cherry picked data. Which is the ECNL coaches intention.

oh the bitterness.

Bitterness or calling out intentionally deceptive ECNL "marketing".

Easy to call something deceptive. Hard to provide actual data showing that the analysis is wrong.

Is there hard data showing that GA is actually performing better right now than ECNL in the mid-tier in getting college commitments for the league's players? Hard data showing more GA players are getting commitments generally than ECNL players, or that the numbers are comparable? I'd love to see it. All I've seen is some claims about a positive trend for GA, and a hopefulness that will continue to the point where things eventually even out, or GA even (at some point in the future, aspirationally) passes ECNL.

Proof is in the pudding.

https://girlsacademyleague.com/class-of-2024/

Congratulations to the Class of 2024! In total, more than 700 athletes will continue their soccer journey in college with over 90 Girls Academy clubs represented

More than 700 (which includes D1, D2, D2, NAIA, etc.) out of how many in total? When you realize the denominator, you'll realize that stat isn't as impressive as you thought it once was.

bingo. wonder why GA left the total number of GA players in the league out? lmao

GA had 15ish less clubs than ECNL last season. Your denominator theory doesnt pencil out.

The denominator was how many HS kids committed across all the groups (D1, D2, D3, JUCO, NAIA, etc.) in total? When you see that 700 number was against that total universe of kids, you'll see it's small. Perhaps its growing, and will continue to grow in the future. Not stating it won't, just that as of today, GA is small fish.

Your acertion has nothing to back it up. Its just a random statment about what you believe to be true and is therefore invalid.

There's 1,425 total women's college soccer teams if you count up all the leagues. 700 committments is an impressive number from a league like GA that only started 4-5 years ago.

Sorry that your bubble is bursting. GA is here to stay and its taking more and more of the college pathway every season.

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114 teams in GA and 700 commits is about 6 kids per team. That means that over 40% of the starting lineup from these clubs is not getting recruited on average. Not a great number and only 33% of an 18 player roster going to college to play. Think it safe to say that ECNL teams are sending more than 6 kids per team. 351 division 1 college programs for women. Lets be conservative and say the average recruiting class is 5 freshman that is 1755 players so think it is safe to say that the ecnl is probably sending more kids to D1 schools than the GA is sending players in total to all 4 divisions of college soccer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:114 teams in GA and 700 commits is about 6 kids per team. That means that over 40% of the starting lineup from these clubs is not getting recruited on average. Not a great number and only 33% of an 18 player roster going to college to play. Think it safe to say that ECNL teams are sending more than 6 kids per team. 351 division 1 college programs for women. Lets be conservative and say the average recruiting class is 5 freshman that is 1755 players so think it is safe to say that the ecnl is probably sending more kids to D1 schools than the GA is sending players in total to all 4 divisions of college soccer.

You're moving the goalposts in different ways at the same time. Try to keep them on the same field.

From everything you wrote i was able to decipher that GA is 6 on average per team that play on college and ECNL is something else but you cant define it because ECNL doesnt post commitment numbers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:114 teams in GA and 700 commits is about 6 kids per team. That means that over 40% of the starting lineup from these clubs is not getting recruited on average. Not a great number and only 33% of an 18 player roster going to college to play. Think it safe to say that ECNL teams are sending more than 6 kids per team. 351 division 1 college programs for women. Lets be conservative and say the average recruiting class is 5 freshman that is 1755 players so think it is safe to say that the ecnl is probably sending more kids to D1 schools than the GA is sending players in total to all 4 divisions of college soccer.

You're moving the goalposts in different ways at the same time. Try to keep them on the same field.

From everything you wrote i was able to decipher that GA is 6 on average per team that play on college and ECNL is something else but you cant define it because ECNL doesnt post commitment numbers.

No one doubts that some GA players get college commitments or even that the number of GA commits have increased year-to-year. But the GA promoters on this thread are asserting that GA is as good as ECNL for college commitments or will soon surpass ECNL. The 700 number taken by itself just completely fails to support these more extravagant claims.

The trend may be positive but there is no guarantee it will continue. I for one would like two comparable leagues competing. But it’s not credible for GA fans to assert without evidence that GA is doing better against the backdrop of everyone knowing ECNL has done better historically. GA fans trying to deny that just look like they are in denial. And if they are in denial they won’t press the league to take the steps necessary to actually draw even. Maybe hydraulic pressure from the boys side chasing MLSN will get you there. But serious people who want GA to be competitive need to recognize that they are starting behind and try to figure out what ECNL is doing better.