New Additions to Leagues Check Up (ECNL & GA)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:idk. my dd has been to numerous YNT camps (over a dozen). she's already at an ACC school.

back when she started being called up, the players would ask the asst coaches there (college coaches are often brought in during the college off-season to help) what do they choose if they have an ecnl event at the same time as a GA event. the coaches that have been asked unanimously have answered "ecnl". not even close.

are there good players and good teams in the GA? sure. but ecnl is just better. my dd's team never lost to a GA team when they had the opportunity to play (socal area). usually her team would crush GA competition. i can't remember a close game (unless they played up...but they still won).

Thanks for the portal into how things used to be several years ago.

Its not like this now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:idk. my dd has been to numerous YNT camps (over a dozen). she's already at an ACC school.

back when she started being called up, the players would ask the asst coaches there (college coaches are often brought in during the college off-season to help) what do they choose if they have an ecnl event at the same time as a GA event. the coaches that have been asked unanimously have answered "ecnl". not even close.

are there good players and good teams in the GA? sure. but ecnl is just better. my dd's team never lost to a GA team when they had the opportunity to play (socal area). usually her team would crush GA competition. i can't remember a close game (unless they played up...but they still won).

Thanks for the portal into how things used to be several years ago.

Its not like this now.

Reliable data/evidence for this claim?

[Anonymous]

ECNL would have far more credibility if it shared its stats rather than an anonymous twitter account.

[Anonymous]

There are some crappy teams in both leagues. But ECNL is much stronger overall. No competition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are some crappy teams in both leagues. But ECNL is much stronger overall. No competition.

If this is true why did ECNL stop posting their committment numbers? GA does.

[Anonymous]

Heard at least one YNT camp is coming up that conflicts w ECNL playoffs. So lots of GA players invited.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:ECNL would have far more credibility if it shared its stats rather than an anonymous twitter account.

ECNL doesn't need to do anything. GA has to post to try and stay relevant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL would have far more credibility if it shared its stats rather than an anonymous twitter account.

ECNL doesn't need to do anything. GA has to post to try and stay relevant.

GA has posted commitment numbers on their site for every year the league has been in existence.

ECNL stopped posting commitment numbers and removed all info related to commitment numbers.

Wonder why...

[Anonymous]

With the House settlement and new rules on roster limits, and the transfer portal, these leagues are going to have to find another way to stay relevant and justify the cost and travel that comes with playing in them. The numbers of high schools committing to D1 and top level D2/D3 schools is going to dwindle and schools are going to start relying more heavily on the transfer portal for proven players.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With the House settlement and new rules on roster limits, and the transfer portal, these leagues are going to have to find another way to stay relevant and justify the cost and travel that comes with playing in them. The numbers of high schools committing to D1 and top level D2/D3 schools is going to dwindle and schools are going to start relying more heavily on the transfer portal for proven players.

All this will do is make winning or playing for a club with connections more important.

It will also open the door for some kind of non pro "minor league" soccer entity to exist between High School and College. There might even be an uptick in gap year soccer programs that prep players for college.

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Anonymous wrote:this cannot be real. the GA hats told me GA was kick a$$ and taking names

https://x.com/ImYouthSoccer/status/1934400532094886146

Its not real, and a perfect example of why iamsoccer dork is ridiculous.

In the 2024 GA season there were over 300 (I stopped counting at 300) college commitments. The numbers are listed right on their site.
https://girlsacademyleague.com/class-of-2024/

Iamsoccerdork has 82 2025 GA commitments listed. Its 100% clear that the ECNL coach is pulling a fast one.

But his numbers is "verbal commitment", and it's 2026. I don't know what that means, but didn't Olivia Moultrie commit to UNC when she was 12 or something ?

You can see why iamsoccers posts are so annoying. This is nothing more than a list of verbal commitments players from different clubs have announced likely on meta, insta, or X. Its weird that an ECNL coach has spends this much time looking at underage girls posts online.

Then to post something that makes it look like GA clubs have 10% of the numbers as ECNL when less than 10% of GA college commitments are posted is very misleading.

You end up with new parents making club decisions based on information iamsoccer knows isnt true or isnt the full picture. Ie cherry picked data. Which is the ECNL coaches intention.

oh the bitterness.

Bitterness or calling out intentionally deceptive ECNL "marketing".

Easy to call something deceptive. Hard to provide actual data showing that the analysis is wrong.

Is there hard data showing that GA is actually performing better right now than ECNL in the mid-tier in getting college commitments for the league's players? Hard data showing more GA players are getting commitments generally than ECNL players, or that the numbers are comparable? I'd love to see it. All I've seen is some claims about a positive trend for GA, and a hopefulness that will continue to the point where things eventually even out, or GA even (at some point in the future, aspirationally) passes ECNL.

Proof is in the pudding.

https://girlsacademyleague.com/class-of-2024/

Congratulations to the Class of 2024! In total, more than 700 athletes will continue their soccer journey in college with over 90 Girls Academy clubs represented

More than 700 (which includes D1, D2, D2, NAIA, etc.) out of how many in total? When you realize the denominator, you'll realize that stat isn't as impressive as you thought it once was.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL would have far more credibility if it shared its stats rather than an anonymous twitter account.

ECNL doesn't need to do anything. GA has to post to try and stay relevant.

GA has posted commitment numbers on their site for every year the league has been in existence.

ECNL stopped posting commitment numbers and removed all info related to commitment numbers.

Wonder why...

Too many to keep track of? Much easier for GA to do it.

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Anonymous wrote:this cannot be real. the GA hats told me GA was kick a$$ and taking names

https://x.com/ImYouthSoccer/status/1934400532094886146

Its not real, and a perfect example of why iamsoccer dork is ridiculous.

In the 2024 GA season there were over 300 (I stopped counting at 300) college commitments. The numbers are listed right on their site.
https://girlsacademyleague.com/class-of-2024/

Iamsoccerdork has 82 2025 GA commitments listed. Its 100% clear that the ECNL coach is pulling a fast one.

But his numbers is "verbal commitment", and it's 2026. I don't know what that means, but didn't Olivia Moultrie commit to UNC when she was 12 or something ?

You can see why iamsoccers posts are so annoying. This is nothing more than a list of verbal commitments players from different clubs have announced likely on meta, insta, or X. Its weird that an ECNL coach has spends this much time looking at underage girls posts online.

Then to post something that makes it look like GA clubs have 10% of the numbers as ECNL when less than 10% of GA college commitments are posted is very misleading.

You end up with new parents making club decisions based on information iamsoccer knows isnt true or isnt the full picture. Ie cherry picked data. Which is the ECNL coaches intention.

oh the bitterness.

Bitterness or calling out intentionally deceptive ECNL "marketing".

Easy to call something deceptive. Hard to provide actual data showing that the analysis is wrong.

Is there hard data showing that GA is actually performing better right now than ECNL in the mid-tier in getting college commitments for the league's players? Hard data showing more GA players are getting commitments generally than ECNL players, or that the numbers are comparable? I'd love to see it. All I've seen is some claims about a positive trend for GA, and a hopefulness that will continue to the point where things eventually even out, or GA even (at some point in the future, aspirationally) passes ECNL.

Proof is in the pudding.

https://girlsacademyleague.com/class-of-2024/

Congratulations to the Class of 2024! In total, more than 700 athletes will continue their soccer journey in college with over 90 Girls Academy clubs represented

More than 700 (which includes D1, D2, D2, NAIA, etc.) out of how many in total? When you realize the denominator, you'll realize that stat isn't as impressive as you thought it once was.

700 GA college commitments is an impressive number no matter how you try to diminish it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:With the House settlement and new rules on roster limits, and the transfer portal, these leagues are going to have to find another way to stay relevant and justify the cost and travel that comes with playing in them. The numbers of high schools committing to D1 and top level D2/D3 schools is going to dwindle and schools are going to start relying more heavily on the transfer portal for proven players.

all the more reason to find an ECNL team to play for.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL would have far more credibility if it shared its stats rather than an anonymous twitter account.

ECNL doesn't need to do anything. GA has to post to try and stay relevant.

GA has posted commitment numbers on their site for every year the league has been in existence.

ECNL stopped posting commitment numbers and removed all info related to commitment numbers.

Wonder why...

Too many to keep track of? Much easier for GA to do it.

Maybe ECNL leadership is mathematically illiterate. Or, maybe GA commitment numbers are taking a bigger and bigger chunk yoy.