Allegedly there are several options for the fall none of which include being back full time?

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Anonymous wrote:The data is very encouraging. https://coronavirus.maryland.gov/ The positivity rate dropped from 27% to 7.6%, number of currently hospitalized dropped from 1700 to 1000, number of death dropped from more than 50 to 9 over about a month.
And we still have almost 3 months until school starts. Planning to keep schools closed is totally unacceptable. Other areas/countries are planning to have students in class earlier than usual to make up for the lost instruction. I agree that if schools still do not open for ALL students in MoCo, it will not be swallowed easily by public.


Here's data by county:
https://phpa.health.maryland.gov/Documents/Positivity%20by%20Jurisdiction.pdf

MoCo has a 10.8% positive rate, 3rd highest in the state.

My thinking is that MoCo will make a more restrictive decision compared to many MD counties (except PG and Baltimore), because the numbers and rates are so high comparatively.


The MoCo data dashboard says it’s 12% (using three-day average): https://montgomerycountymd.gov/HHS/RightNav/Coronavirus-data.html

In less than 2 weeks, it will be less than 8%. In less than 4 weeks it will be less than 5%. By the end of July, it will be less than 3%. By the end of August, it will be less than 1%. This assumes MoCo continues to open up. Save this post.

I came up with the above prediction through my statistical programming two days ago. I'm still behind it.
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Anonymous wrote:The data is very encouraging. https://coronavirus.maryland.gov/ The positivity rate dropped from 27% to 7.6%, number of currently hospitalized dropped from 1700 to 1000, number of death dropped from more than 50 to 9 over about a month.
And we still have almost 3 months until school starts. Planning to keep schools closed is totally unacceptable. Other areas/countries are planning to have students in class earlier than usual to make up for the lost instruction. I agree that if schools still do not open for ALL students in MoCo, it will not be swallowed easily by public.


Here's data by county:
https://phpa.health.maryland.gov/Documents/Positivity%20by%20Jurisdiction.pdf

MoCo has a 10.8% positive rate, 3rd highest in the state.

My thinking is that MoCo will make a more restrictive decision compared to many MD counties (except PG and Baltimore), because the numbers and rates are so high comparatively.


The MoCo data dashboard says it’s 12% (using three-day average): https://montgomerycountymd.gov/HHS/RightNav/Coronavirus-data.html

In less than 2 weeks, it will be less than 8%. In less than 4 weeks it will be less than 5%. By the end of July, it will be less than 3%. By the end of August, it will be less than 1%. This assumes MoCo continues to open up. Save this post.

I came up with the above prediction through my statistical programming two days ago. I'm still behind it.


Well, it’s still at 12 percent today. Come back when you have the data to back up your claims.
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Anonymous wrote:The data is very encouraging. https://coronavirus.maryland.gov/ The positivity rate dropped from 27% to 7.6%, number of currently hospitalized dropped from 1700 to 1000, number of death dropped from more than 50 to 9 over about a month.
And we still have almost 3 months until school starts. Planning to keep schools closed is totally unacceptable. Other areas/countries are planning to have students in class earlier than usual to make up for the lost instruction. I agree that if schools still do not open for ALL students in MoCo, it will not be swallowed easily by public.


Here's data by county:
https://phpa.health.maryland.gov/Documents/Positivity%20by%20Jurisdiction.pdf

MoCo has a 10.8% positive rate, 3rd highest in the state.

My thinking is that MoCo will make a more restrictive decision compared to many MD counties (except PG and Baltimore), because the numbers and rates are so high comparatively.


The MoCo data dashboard says it’s 12% (using three-day average): https://montgomerycountymd.gov/HHS/RightNav/Coronavirus-data.html

In less than 2 weeks, it will be less than 8%. In less than 4 weeks it will be less than 5%. By the end of July, it will be less than 3%. By the end of August, it will be less than 1%. This assumes MoCo continues to open up. Save this post.

I came up with the above prediction through my statistical programming two days ago. I'm still behind it.


Well, it’s still at 12 percent today. Come back when you have the data to back up your claims.

Sure will.
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Anonymous wrote:No inside info, but until there’s a vaccine, 100% back in the classroom will not happen. There’s just not enough space, teachers or busses. No school system was designed to support the constraints that will be in place until a vaccine is widely available.

Sorry to be a down, I just don’t think it’s going to happen.


Like half the country already announced going back to normal instruction in the fall. And there is no guarantee a vaccine will ever be available so this is just not feasible.


Like half the country is far less densely populated than the DC metro area and likely has capacity in their schools.


But their schools are just as populated. So what is the point?
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Anonymous wrote:The data is very encouraging. https://coronavirus.maryland.gov/ The positivity rate dropped from 27% to 7.6%, number of currently hospitalized dropped from 1700 to 1000, number of death dropped from more than 50 to 9 over about a month.
And we still have almost 3 months until school starts. Planning to keep schools closed is totally unacceptable. Other areas/countries are planning to have students in class earlier than usual to make up for the lost instruction. I agree that if schools still do not open for ALL students in MoCo, it will not be swallowed easily by public.


Here's data by county:
https://phpa.health.maryland.gov/Documents/Positivity%20by%20Jurisdiction.pdf

MoCo has a 10.8% positive rate, 3rd highest in the state.

My thinking is that MoCo will make a more restrictive decision compared to many MD counties (except PG and Baltimore), because the numbers and rates are so high comparatively.


The MoCo data dashboard says it’s 12% (using three-day average): https://montgomerycountymd.gov/HHS/RightNav/Coronavirus-data.html

In less than 2 weeks, it will be less than 8%. In less than 4 weeks it will be less than 5%. By the end of July, it will be less than 3%. By the end of August, it will be less than 1%. This assumes MoCo continues to open up. Save this post.

I came up with the above prediction through my statistical programming two days ago. I'm still behind it.


From your mouth to gods ears!
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Anonymous wrote:All this arguing and bottom line none of us are the decision makers here. They will open or they won’t. Or something in between. And we’ll deal. Is there another option?


Yes. Try to influence the decision by contacting the decision-makers. And/or taking non-violent direct action, if it comes to that.
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Anonymous wrote:All this arguing and bottom line none of us are the decision makers here. They will open or they won’t. Or something in between. And we’ll deal. Is there another option?


Yes. Try to influence the decision by contacting the decision-makers. And/or taking non-violent direct action, if it comes to that.


Curious what steps people are actually taking - who are you contacting? I assume the decision will be made at the state level and not the county level correct? Who here has contacted someone?
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Anonymous wrote:All this arguing and bottom line none of us are the decision makers here. They will open or they won’t. Or something in between. And we’ll deal. Is there another option?


Sure -- pull your kids and homeschool them. Or move to VA or some place that is open.



Of course. [b]But how does arguing for pages and pages really change anything.[/b] People will have to deal or homeschool or move. However I’d be willing to bet moving isn’t going to make much difference unless it’s a very rural place. I’d also be willing to bet that the majority won’t move or homeschool.


This forum isn't for change - if I want to exert change I'll write my state officials or the BOE. It's a forum for exchanging ideas and finding like minds - or talking about issues with people you disagree with. That's what the pages and pages are about.


Sometimes I find the constant arguing doesn't really look like "exchanging ideas" sadly.
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Anonymous wrote:All this arguing and bottom line none of us are the decision makers here. They will open or they won’t. Or something in between. And we’ll deal. Is there another option?


Yes. Try to influence the decision by contacting the decision-makers. And/or taking non-violent direct action, if it comes to that.


Curious what steps people are actually taking - who are you contacting? I assume the decision will be made at the state level and not the county level correct? Who here has contacted someone?


I e-mailed the BoE, with ccs to my county council members. I'm also planning to e-mail my state senator and delegates. And the governor, pro forma, even though he's made it clear that he doesn't care what people in Montgomery County think.
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Anonymous wrote:All this arguing and bottom line none of us are the decision makers here. They will open or they won’t. Or something in between. And we’ll deal. Is there another option?


Yes. Try to influence the decision by contacting the decision-makers. And/or taking non-violent direct action, if it comes to that.


Curious what steps people are actually taking - who are you contacting? I assume the decision will be made at the state level and not the county level correct? Who here has contacted someone?


I e-mailed the BoE, with ccs to my county council members. I'm also planning to e-mail my state senator and delegates. And the governor, pro forma, even though he's made it clear that he doesn't care what people in Montgomery County think.


I hope the governor isn’t making public health decisions based on parents threatening to riot if schools don’t reopen as normal.
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Anonymous wrote:No inside info, but until there’s a vaccine, 100% back in the classroom will not happen. There’s just not enough space, teachers or busses. No school system was designed to support the constraints that will be in place until a vaccine is widely available.

Sorry to be a down, I just don’t think it’s going to happen.


Like half the country already announced going back to normal instruction in the fall. And there is no guarantee a vaccine will ever be available so this is just not feasible.


Like half the country is far less densely populated than the DC metro area and likely has capacity in their schools.


But their schools are just as populated. So what is the point?


The only way to meet CDC deadlines for spacing is to send only ES and self-contained Special Ed, maybe ESOL 1 and 2, but keep everyone else home and repurpose their secondary schools as learning centers. It will require busing, which DCUM hates —unless that bus takes your child to WJ rather than him walking to Einstein.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All this arguing and bottom line none of us are the decision makers here. They will open or they won’t. Or something in between. And we’ll deal. Is there another option?


Yes. Try to influence the decision by contacting the decision-makers. And/or taking non-violent direct action, if it comes to that.


Curious what steps people are actually taking - who are you contacting? I assume the decision will be made at the state level and not the county level correct? Who here has contacted someone?


I e-mailed the BoE, with ccs to my county council members. I'm also planning to e-mail my state senator and delegates. And the governor, pro forma, even though he's made it clear that he doesn't care what people in Montgomery County think.


I hope the governor isn’t making public health decisions based on parents threatening to riot if schools don’t reopen as normal.


I think that the governor should take public opinion into account though, don't you? You know, the "public" in public health.

Especially because public health encompasses much more than just one particular infectious disease. For example,child well-being (including social/emotional learning, education, and family/home environment) and parental/family well-being (including income, employment, housing, and food).
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:All this arguing and bottom line none of us are the decision makers here. They will open or they won’t. Or something in between. And we’ll deal. Is there another option?


Yes. Try to influence the decision by contacting the decision-makers. And/or taking non-violent direct action, if it comes to that.


Curious what steps people are actually taking - who are you contacting? I assume the decision will be made at the state level and not the county level correct? Who here has contacted someone?


I e-mailed the BoE, with ccs to my county council members. I'm also planning to e-mail my state senator and delegates. And the governor, pro forma, even though he's made it clear that he doesn't care what people in Montgomery County think.


I hope the governor isn’t making public health decisions based on parents threatening to riot if schools don’t reopen as normal.


I think that the governor should take public opinion into account though, don't you? You know, the "public" in public health.

Especially because public health encompasses much more than just one particular infectious disease. For example,child well-being (including social/emotional learning, education, and family/home environment) and parental/family well-being (including income, employment, housing, and food).


Don't ask the shelter-forever people to think in such complex terms...
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There is a BOE meeting tomorrow - curious if it will be discussed.
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Anonymous wrote:All this arguing and bottom line none of us are the decision makers here. They will open or they won’t. Or something in between. And we’ll deal. Is there another option?


Yes. Try to influence the decision by contacting the decision-makers. And/or taking non-violent direct action, if it comes to that.


Curious what steps people are actually taking - who are you contacting? I assume the decision will be made at the state level and not the county level correct? Who here has contacted someone?


I e-mailed the BoE, with ccs to my county council members. I'm also planning to e-mail my state senator and delegates. And the governor, pro forma, even though he's made it clear that he doesn't care what people in Montgomery County think.


I hope the governor isn’t making public health decisions based on parents threatening to riot if schools don’t reopen as normal.


I think that the governor should take public opinion into account though, don't you? You know, the "public" in public health.

Especially because public health encompasses much more than just one particular infectious disease. For example,child well-being (including social/emotional learning, education, and family/home environment) and parental/family well-being (including income, employment, housing, and food).


Don't ask the shelter-forever people to think in such complex terms...


Case in point why people aren't able to "exchange ideas" on here. Such rudeness.

To the poster above - I agree about the other health aspects. My daughter has social anxiety and being home all the time (while maybe preferable to her) is not helping her development at all. It is concerning.

On the other hand - not sure the "public" should be driving the decisions, but yes definitely giving input. And I hope that the Governor is weighing all of the other health aspects you mention.
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