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Anonymous wrote:STJ FCV will absolutely change within the next year or less. Anyone telling you differently is simply selling you something.

Are you the same poster who posts this like once a day? It’s like you have some vested interest in seeing the club fail. No one else seems to be rooting as hard against another club except you. Lots of good players and parents are sticking it out. Just let it go.

Well, when you pay your deposit before such an announcement is made you are a bit locked in at this point.

And I don’t think Spirit parents are necessarily rooting for the demise of FCV as much offering honest perspective as parents who have gone through this before. Spirit was also purchased by a millionaire who also made promises. It is wise for FCV parents to be skeptical and be critical this coming year. Make note of how the goal posts get moved throughout the year.

Does Sunday, regen practice during the season in the fall bleed into one weeknight in the spring? Does one futsal practice in Loudoun during the fall turn into two a night over the winter?

Do changes in branding occur slowly?

But the smugness that FCV parents demonstrated during Spirit’s situation while simultaneously ignoring the cautionary tale is baffling. Has anyone really asked why FCV was purchased? Why it was sold is understandable but why St James purchased it is really the only question that will truly answer FCVs future.

Yes. And there isn't a post on this board that is correct.

Then what is the answer?

Why did the St. James purchase FCV?

Regardless of why, TSJFCV parents should accept that fact that this is the last year of training at Evergreen. By next year all training will be in Springfield (all Winter training this year will be at TSJ).

And even if that happens (which it won't since TSJ doesn't have enough field space), what is your point? Should players that play for the top girls teams in the area (all FCV teams U13 and above) should leave that success and pathway to join a club that is worse purely for some convenience? You are the one that should accept facts.

As time goes on, the player make up for the TSJFCV will transition away from Loudoun County but players that want to play on the best teams and are already on those teams are NOT moving to Loudoun to play for a crap team right in the middle of recruiting years.

Everything changes. Loudoun used to have the best teams and then top players left for FCV and DA. Not a stretch to think some will leave again. Just as coaches have no loyalty to players (see FCV, McLean coaches hiding in bushes to watch and recruit older players who have been developed elsewhere), players have no loyalty, either. TSJFCV 05 roster jumped from 18 this year to at least 21 for next year. Just a sign of what’s to come, huge rosters, kids sitting out each week. Not really a draw for new players. Unless, of course, they love being joysticked by their coach from kick off until the final whistle. Thank God they don’t have to implement their training into game action.
Currently, TSJFCV has the best record in the area, but seeing their results across the board in Showcase games, it’s hard to call them one of the best clubs. Self praise is no praise TSKFCV parent.

You must not be looking at the right results...FCV played against the top teams in the country at the last showcase and did very well.

This sounds like someone whose daughter didn't get an offer Like most of those grumbling over here.

Not sure why folks don't understand the TSJ partnership is to expand the player pool with other expansion coming soon.

Just wait for it!

Geez, when did watching your team lose 4-0 and 3-0 equate doing “quite well”. If you’re going to claim you’re a top team, show up at game time.

The 16/17 team did struggle in Colorado...I just looked. But the U14s and U15s did well against very good teams. Bottom line is, in the DC Metro, there is not a girls club that is even in the same conversation as FCV across all the ECNL/GDA age groups. That is not even debatable. So unless you are planning on moving your DD out of the area to somewhere far away from here, your argument that FCV struggled in one age group at the showcase is stupid. Take any other local club out to that showcase and the results would be horrifying.

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Anonymous wrote:STJ FCV will absolutely change within the next year or less. Anyone telling you differently is simply selling you something.

Are you the same poster who posts this like once a day? It’s like you have some vested interest in seeing the club fail. No one else seems to be rooting as hard against another club except you. Lots of good players and parents are sticking it out. Just let it go.

Well, when you pay your deposit before such an announcement is made you are a bit locked in at this point.

And I don’t think Spirit parents are necessarily rooting for the demise of FCV as much offering honest perspective as parents who have gone through this before. Spirit was also purchased by a millionaire who also made promises. It is wise for FCV parents to be skeptical and be critical this coming year. Make note of how the goal posts get moved throughout the year.

Does Sunday, regen practice during the season in the fall bleed into one weeknight in the spring? Does one futsal practice in Loudoun during the fall turn into two a night over the winter?

Do changes in branding occur slowly?

But the smugness that FCV parents demonstrated during Spirit’s situation while simultaneously ignoring the cautionary tale is baffling. Has anyone really asked why FCV was purchased? Why it was sold is understandable but why St James purchased it is really the only question that will truly answer FCVs future.

Yes. And there isn't a post on this board that is correct.

Then what is the answer?

Why did the St. James purchase FCV?

Regardless of why, TSJFCV parents should accept that fact that this is the last year of training at Evergreen. By next year all training will be in Springfield (all Winter training this year will be at TSJ).

And even if that happens (which it won't since TSJ doesn't have enough field space), what is your point? Should players that play for the top girls teams in the area (all FCV teams U13 and above) should leave that success and pathway to join a club that is worse purely for some convenience? You are the one that should accept facts.

As time goes on, the player make up for the TSJFCV will transition away from Loudoun County but players that want to play on the best teams and are already on those teams are NOT moving to Loudoun to play for a crap team right in the middle of recruiting years.

Everything changes. Loudoun used to have the best teams and then top players left for FCV and DA. Not a stretch to think some will leave again. Just as coaches have no loyalty to players (see FCV, McLean coaches hiding in bushes to watch and recruit older players who have been developed elsewhere), players have no loyalty, either. TSJFCV 05 roster jumped from 18 this year to at least 21 for next year. Just a sign of what’s to come, huge rosters, kids sitting out each week. Not really a draw for new players. Unless, of course, they love being joysticked by their coach from kick off until the final whistle. Thank God they don’t have to implement their training into game action.
Currently, TSJFCV has the best record in the area, but seeing their results across the board in Showcase games, it’s hard to call them one of the best clubs. Self praise is no praise TSKFCV parent.

So we should scramble from away from successful clubs like FCV to down-trodden clubs like Loudoun because things change and maybe, just maybe, Loudoun gets better because a board troll like you said so? Oh yeah. I better listen or else...

Remember the title of the thread you are on. Why are you HERE? To punch down or to find purpose and meaning in your kids 20 minutes per game on a winning team?

LOL Loudoun Dad. I guess only bashing is allowed when talking about certain clubs. If you praise them, then we are suddenly off-topic.

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Anonymous wrote:STJ FCV will absolutely change within the next year or less. Anyone telling you differently is simply selling you something.

Are you the same poster who posts this like once a day? It’s like you have some vested interest in seeing the club fail. No one else seems to be rooting as hard against another club except you. Lots of good players and parents are sticking it out. Just let it go.

Well, when you pay your deposit before such an announcement is made you are a bit locked in at this point.

And I don’t think Spirit parents are necessarily rooting for the demise of FCV as much offering honest perspective as parents who have gone through this before. Spirit was also purchased by a millionaire who also made promises. It is wise for FCV parents to be skeptical and be critical this coming year. Make note of how the goal posts get moved throughout the year.

Does Sunday, regen practice during the season in the fall bleed into one weeknight in the spring? Does one futsal practice in Loudoun during the fall turn into two a night over the winter?

Do changes in branding occur slowly?

But the smugness that FCV parents demonstrated during Spirit’s situation while simultaneously ignoring the cautionary tale is baffling. Has anyone really asked why FCV was purchased? Why it was sold is understandable but why St James purchased it is really the only question that will truly answer FCVs future.

Yes. And there isn't a post on this board that is correct.

Then what is the answer?

Why did the St. James purchase FCV?

Regardless of why, TSJFCV parents should accept that fact that this is the last year of training at Evergreen. By next year all training will be in Springfield (all Winter training this year will be at TSJ).

And even if that happens (which it won't since TSJ doesn't have enough field space), what is your point? Should players that play for the top girls teams in the area (all FCV teams U13 and above) should leave that success and pathway to join a club that is worse purely for some convenience? You are the one that should accept facts.

As time goes on, the player make up for the TSJFCV will transition away from Loudoun County but players that want to play on the best teams and are already on those teams are NOT moving to Loudoun to play for a crap team right in the middle of recruiting years.

Everything changes. Loudoun used to have the best teams and then top players left for FCV and DA. Not a stretch to think some will leave again. Just as coaches have no loyalty to players (see FCV, McLean coaches hiding in bushes to watch and recruit older players who have been developed elsewhere), players have no loyalty, either. TSJFCV 05 roster jumped from 18 this year to at least 21 for next year. Just a sign of what’s to come, huge rosters, kids sitting out each week. Not really a draw for new players. Unless, of course, they love being joysticked by their coach from kick off until the final whistle. Thank God they don’t have to implement their training into game action.
Currently, TSJFCV has the best record in the area, but seeing their results across the board in Showcase games, it’s hard to call them one of the best clubs. Self praise is no praise TSKFCV parent.

So we should scramble from away from successful clubs like FCV to down-trodden clubs like Loudoun because things change and maybe, just maybe, Loudoun gets better because a board troll like you said so? Oh yeah. I better listen or else...

Remember the title of the thread you are on. Why are you HERE? To punch down or to find purpose and meaning in your kids 20 minutes per game on a winning team?

LOL Loudoun Dad. I guess only bashing is allowed when talking about certain clubs. If you praise them, then we are suddenly off-topic.

I simply don't understand why anyone gives such a crap about Spirit or Metro? Are you that freaking insecure that you need to go online and trash a club? Next time you play against United be the tough guy that you are and walk up to any of the Metro girls after the game and tell them how bad you think they are.

Your kid is good at soccer but you suck at life.

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Anonymous wrote:STJ FCV will absolutely change within the next year or less. Anyone telling you differently is simply selling you something.

Are you the same poster who posts this like once a day? It’s like you have some vested interest in seeing the club fail. No one else seems to be rooting as hard against another club except you. Lots of good players and parents are sticking it out. Just let it go.

Well, when you pay your deposit before such an announcement is made you are a bit locked in at this point.

And I don’t think Spirit parents are necessarily rooting for the demise of FCV as much offering honest perspective as parents who have gone through this before. Spirit was also purchased by a millionaire who also made promises. It is wise for FCV parents to be skeptical and be critical this coming year. Make note of how the goal posts get moved throughout the year.

Does Sunday, regen practice during the season in the fall bleed into one weeknight in the spring? Does one futsal practice in Loudoun during the fall turn into two a night over the winter?

Do changes in branding occur slowly?

But the smugness that FCV parents demonstrated during Spirit’s situation while simultaneously ignoring the cautionary tale is baffling. Has anyone really asked why FCV was purchased? Why it was sold is understandable but why St James purchased it is really the only question that will truly answer FCVs future.

Yes. And there isn't a post on this board that is correct.

Then what is the answer?

Why did the St. James purchase FCV?

Regardless of why, TSJFCV parents should accept that fact that this is the last year of training at Evergreen. By next year all training will be in Springfield (all Winter training this year will be at TSJ).

And even if that happens (which it won't since TSJ doesn't have enough field space), what is your point? Should players that play for the top girls teams in the area (all FCV teams U13 and above) should leave that success and pathway to join a club that is worse purely for some convenience? You are the one that should accept facts.

As time goes on, the player make up for the TSJFCV will transition away from Loudoun County but players that want to play on the best teams and are already on those teams are NOT moving to Loudoun to play for a crap team right in the middle of recruiting years.

Everything changes. Loudoun used to have the best teams and then top players left for FCV and DA. Not a stretch to think some will leave again. Just as coaches have no loyalty to players (see FCV, McLean coaches hiding in bushes to watch and recruit older players who have been developed elsewhere), players have no loyalty, either. TSJFCV 05 roster jumped from 18 this year to at least 21 for next year. Just a sign of what’s to come, huge rosters, kids sitting out each week. Not really a draw for new players. Unless, of course, they love being joysticked by their coach from kick off until the final whistle. Thank God they don’t have to implement their training into game action.
Currently, TSJFCV has the best record in the area, but seeing their results across the board in Showcase games, it’s hard to call them one of the best clubs. Self praise is no praise TSKFCV parent.

You must not be looking at the right results...FCV played against the top teams in the country at the last showcase and did very well.

This sounds like someone whose daughter didn't get an offer Like most of those grumbling over here.

Not sure why folks don't understand the TSJ partnership is to expand the player pool with other expansion coming soon.

Just wait for it!

Geez, when did watching your team lose 4-0 and 3-0 equate doing “quite well”. If you’re going to claim you’re a top team, show up at game time.

The 16/17 team did struggle in Colorado...I just looked. But the U14s and U15s did well against very good teams. Bottom line is, in the DC Metro, there is not a girls club that is even in the same conversation as FCV across all the ECNL/GDA age groups. That is not even debatable. So unless you are planning on moving your DD out of the area to somewhere far away from here, your argument that FCV struggled in one age group at the showcase is stupid. Take any other local club out to that showcase and the results would be horrifying.

Don’t forget the Penn Fusion showcase where the 05 FCV results were “horrifying”. The play was some of the worst out there and parents attacked each other on the sidelines with racial slurs and words like “your daughter sucks”. Regardless of win/loss record, that’s a disgraceful culture to allow your child to be a part of.
And, don’t act like that was an isolated incident. During the 06 FCV/WSVA game, the FCV coach actually told one of his own players that she was “an embarrassment to the DA”. She’s 12.
But, whatever floats your boat. Keep your kids in that kind of culture and they’ll grow up to be as miserable as those coaches and parents are.

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Anonymous wrote:STJ FCV will absolutely change within the next year or less. Anyone telling you differently is simply selling you something.

Are you the same poster who posts this like once a day? It’s like you have some vested interest in seeing the club fail. No one else seems to be rooting as hard against another club except you. Lots of good players and parents are sticking it out. Just let it go.

Well, when you pay your deposit before such an announcement is made you are a bit locked in at this point.

And I don’t think Spirit parents are necessarily rooting for the demise of FCV as much offering honest perspective as parents who have gone through this before. Spirit was also purchased by a millionaire who also made promises. It is wise for FCV parents to be skeptical and be critical this coming year. Make note of how the goal posts get moved throughout the year.

Does Sunday, regen practice during the season in the fall bleed into one weeknight in the spring? Does one futsal practice in Loudoun during the fall turn into two a night over the winter?

Do changes in branding occur slowly?

But the smugness that FCV parents demonstrated during Spirit’s situation while simultaneously ignoring the cautionary tale is baffling. Has anyone really asked why FCV was purchased? Why it was sold is understandable but why St James purchased it is really the only question that will truly answer FCVs future.

Yes. And there isn't a post on this board that is correct.

Then what is the answer?

Why did the St. James purchase FCV?

Regardless of why, TSJFCV parents should accept that fact that this is the last year of training at Evergreen. By next year all training will be in Springfield (all Winter training this year will be at TSJ).

And even if that happens (which it won't since TSJ doesn't have enough field space), what is your point? Should players that play for the top girls teams in the area (all FCV teams U13 and above) should leave that success and pathway to join a club that is worse purely for some convenience? You are the one that should accept facts.

As time goes on, the player make up for the TSJFCV will transition away from Loudoun County but players that want to play on the best teams and are already on those teams are NOT moving to Loudoun to play for a crap team right in the middle of recruiting years.

Everything changes. Loudoun used to have the best teams and then top players left for FCV and DA. Not a stretch to think some will leave again. Just as coaches have no loyalty to players (see FCV, McLean coaches hiding in bushes to watch and recruit older players who have been developed elsewhere), players have no loyalty, either. TSJFCV 05 roster jumped from 18 this year to at least 21 for next year. Just a sign of what’s to come, huge rosters, kids sitting out each week. Not really a draw for new players. Unless, of course, they love being joysticked by their coach from kick off until the final whistle. Thank God they don’t have to implement their training into game action.
Currently, TSJFCV has the best record in the area, but seeing their results across the board in Showcase games, it’s hard to call them one of the best clubs. Self praise is no praise TSKFCV parent.

You must not be looking at the right results...FCV played against the top teams in the country at the last showcase and did very well.

This sounds like someone whose daughter didn't get an offer Like most of those grumbling over here.

Not sure why folks don't understand the TSJ partnership is to expand the player pool with other expansion coming soon.

Just wait for it!

Geez, when did watching your team lose 4-0 and 3-0 equate doing “quite well”. If you’re going to claim you’re a top team, show up at game time.

The 16/17 team did struggle in Colorado...I just looked. But the U14s and U15s did well against very good teams. Bottom line is, in the DC Metro, there is not a girls club that is even in the same conversation as FCV across all the ECNL/GDA age groups. That is not even debatable. So unless you are planning on moving your DD out of the area to somewhere far away from here, your argument that FCV struggled in one age group at the showcase is stupid. Take any other local club out to that showcase and the results would be horrifying.

Don’t forget the Penn Fusion showcase where the 05 FCV results were “horrifying”. The play was some of the worst out there and parents attacked each other on the sidelines with racial slurs and words like “your daughter sucks”. Regardless of win/loss record, that’s a disgraceful culture to allow your child to be a part of.
And, don’t act like that was an isolated incident. During the 06 FCV/WSVA game, the FCV coach actually told one of his own players that she was “an embarrassment to the DA”. She’s 12.
But, whatever floats your boat. Keep your kids in that kind of culture and they’ll grow up to be as miserable as those coaches and parents are.

I am sure there are plenty of things wrong at FCV. Just as I am sure that there are many things at every other club. Just read your posts. You say just as ugly things as the people you are attacking. That makes you part of the problem.

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It's probably better to take the high road. But let's be honest.

Nobody is as nasty as the Fight Club Virginia parents. If you read these boards you know that everyone else is mainly responding to their daily attacks and trolling.

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Anonymous wrote:STJ FCV will absolutely change within the next year or less. Anyone telling you differently is simply selling you something.

Are you the same poster who posts this like once a day? It’s like you have some vested interest in seeing the club fail. No one else seems to be rooting as hard against another club except you. Lots of good players and parents are sticking it out. Just let it go.

Well, when you pay your deposit before such an announcement is made you are a bit locked in at this point.

And I don’t think Spirit parents are necessarily rooting for the demise of FCV as much offering honest perspective as parents who have gone through this before. Spirit was also purchased by a millionaire who also made promises. It is wise for FCV parents to be skeptical and be critical this coming year. Make note of how the goal posts get moved throughout the year.

Does Sunday, regen practice during the season in the fall bleed into one weeknight in the spring? Does one futsal practice in Loudoun during the fall turn into two a night over the winter?

Do changes in branding occur slowly?

But the smugness that FCV parents demonstrated during Spirit’s situation while simultaneously ignoring the cautionary tale is baffling. Has anyone really asked why FCV was purchased? Why it was sold is understandable but why St James purchased it is really the only question that will truly answer FCVs future.

Yes. And there isn't a post on this board that is correct.

Then what is the answer?

Why did the St. James purchase FCV?

Regardless of why, TSJFCV parents should accept that fact that this is the last year of training at Evergreen. By next year all training will be in Springfield (all Winter training this year will be at TSJ).

And even if that happens (which it won't since TSJ doesn't have enough field space), what is your point? Should players that play for the top girls teams in the area (all FCV teams U13 and above) should leave that success and pathway to join a club that is worse purely for some convenience? You are the one that should accept facts.

As time goes on, the player make up for the TSJFCV will transition away from Loudoun County but players that want to play on the best teams and are already on those teams are NOT moving to Loudoun to play for a crap team right in the middle of recruiting years.

Everything changes. Loudoun used to have the best teams and then top players left for FCV and DA. Not a stretch to think some will leave again. Just as coaches have no loyalty to players (see FCV, McLean coaches hiding in bushes to watch and recruit older players who have been developed elsewhere), players have no loyalty, either. TSJFCV 05 roster jumped from 18 this year to at least 21 for next year. Just a sign of what’s to come, huge rosters, kids sitting out each week. Not really a draw for new players. Unless, of course, they love being joysticked by their coach from kick off until the final whistle. Thank God they don’t have to implement their training into game action.
Currently, TSJFCV has the best record in the area, but seeing their results across the board in Showcase games, it’s hard to call them one of the best clubs. Self praise is no praise TSKFCV parent.

You must not be looking at the right results...FCV played against the top teams in the country at the last showcase and did very well.

This sounds like someone whose daughter didn't get an offer Like most of those grumbling over here.

Not sure why folks don't understand the TSJ partnership is to expand the player pool with other expansion coming soon.

Just wait for it!

Geez, when did watching your team lose 4-0 and 3-0 equate doing “quite well”. If you’re going to claim you’re a top team, show up at game time.

The 16/17 team did struggle in Colorado...I just looked. But the U14s and U15s did well against very good teams. Bottom line is, in the DC Metro, there is not a girls club that is even in the same conversation as FCV across all the ECNL/GDA age groups. That is not even debatable. So unless you are planning on moving your DD out of the area to somewhere far away from here, your argument that FCV struggled in one age group at the showcase is stupid. Take any other local club out to that showcase and the results would be horrifying.

Don’t forget the Penn Fusion showcase where the 05 FCV results were “horrifying”. The play was some of the worst out there and parents attacked each other on the sidelines with racial slurs and words like “your daughter sucks”. Regardless of win/loss record, that’s a disgraceful culture to allow your child to be a part of.
And, don’t act like that was an isolated incident. During the 06 FCV/WSVA game, the FCV coach actually told one of his own players that she was “an embarrassment to the DA”. She’s 12.
But, whatever floats your boat. Keep your kids in that kind of culture and they’ll grow up to be as miserable as those coaches and parents are.

I am sure there are plenty of things wrong at FCV. Just as I am sure that there are many things at every other club. Just read your posts. You say just as ugly things as the people you are attacking. That makes you part of the problem.

The difference is the PP didn't say the nasty things to a 12 year old girl the way a professional coach did. That coach was Bobby by the way.

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Anonymous wrote:STJ FCV will absolutely change within the next year or less. Anyone telling you differently is simply selling you something.

Are you the same poster who posts this like once a day? It’s like you have some vested interest in seeing the club fail. No one else seems to be rooting as hard against another club except you. Lots of good players and parents are sticking it out. Just let it go.

Well, when you pay your deposit before such an announcement is made you are a bit locked in at this point.

And I don’t think Spirit parents are necessarily rooting for the demise of FCV as much offering honest perspective as parents who have gone through this before. Spirit was also purchased by a millionaire who also made promises. It is wise for FCV parents to be skeptical and be critical this coming year. Make note of how the goal posts get moved throughout the year.

Does Sunday, regen practice during the season in the fall bleed into one weeknight in the spring? Does one futsal practice in Loudoun during the fall turn into two a night over the winter?

Do changes in branding occur slowly?

But the smugness that FCV parents demonstrated during Spirit’s situation while simultaneously ignoring the cautionary tale is baffling. Has anyone really asked why FCV was purchased? Why it was sold is understandable but why St James purchased it is really the only question that will truly answer FCVs future.

Yes. And there isn't a post on this board that is correct.

Then what is the answer?

Why did the St. James purchase FCV?

Regardless of why, TSJFCV parents should accept that fact that this is the last year of training at Evergreen. By next year all training will be in Springfield (all Winter training this year will be at TSJ).

And even if that happens (which it won't since TSJ doesn't have enough field space), what is your point? Should players that play for the top girls teams in the area (all FCV teams U13 and above) should leave that success and pathway to join a club that is worse purely for some convenience? You are the one that should accept facts.

As time goes on, the player make up for the TSJFCV will transition away from Loudoun County but players that want to play on the best teams and are already on those teams are NOT moving to Loudoun to play for a crap team right in the middle of recruiting years.

Everything changes. Loudoun used to have the best teams and then top players left for FCV and DA. Not a stretch to think some will leave again. Just as coaches have no loyalty to players (see FCV, McLean coaches hiding in bushes to watch and recruit older players who have been developed elsewhere), players have no loyalty, either. TSJFCV 05 roster jumped from 18 this year to at least 21 for next year. Just a sign of what’s to come, huge rosters, kids sitting out each week. Not really a draw for new players. Unless, of course, they love being joysticked by their coach from kick off until the final whistle. Thank God they don’t have to implement their training into game action.
Currently, TSJFCV has the best record in the area, but seeing their results across the board in Showcase games, it’s hard to call them one of the best clubs. Self praise is no praise TSKFCV parent.

You must not be looking at the right results...FCV played against the top teams in the country at the last showcase and did very well.

This sounds like someone whose daughter didn't get an offer Like most of those grumbling over here.

Not sure why folks don't understand the TSJ partnership is to expand the player pool with other expansion coming soon.

Just wait for it!

Geez, when did watching your team lose 4-0 and 3-0 equate doing “quite well”. If you’re going to claim you’re a top team, show up at game time.

The 16/17 team did struggle in Colorado...I just looked. But the U14s and U15s did well against very good teams. Bottom line is, in the DC Metro, there is not a girls club that is even in the same conversation as FCV across all the ECNL/GDA age groups. That is not even debatable. So unless you are planning on moving your DD out of the area to somewhere far away from here, your argument that FCV struggled in one age group at the showcase is stupid. Take any other local club out to that showcase and the results would be horrifying.

Don’t forget the Penn Fusion showcase where the 05 FCV results were “horrifying”. The play was some of the worst out there and parents attacked each other on the sidelines with racial slurs and words like “your daughter sucks”. Regardless of win/loss record, that’s a disgraceful culture to allow your child to be a part of.
And, don’t act like that was an isolated incident. During the 06 FCV/WSVA game, the FCV coach actually told one of his own players that she was “an embarrassment to the DA”. She’s 12.
But, whatever floats your boat. Keep your kids in that kind of culture and they’ll grow up to be as miserable as those coaches and parents are.

I am sure there are plenty of things wrong at FCV. Just as I am sure that there are many things at every other club. Just read your posts. You say just as ugly things as the people you are attacking. That makes you part of the problem.

The difference is the PP didn't say the nasty things to a 12 year old girl the way a professional coach did. That coach was Bobby by the way.

That may or may not be true. But I have personally heard abhorrent things said to players boys and girls as young as U10 at several of the "top" clubs in the area.

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Anonymous wrote:STJ FCV will absolutely change within the next year or less. Anyone telling you differently is simply selling you something.

Are you the same poster who posts this like once a day? It’s like you have some vested interest in seeing the club fail. No one else seems to be rooting as hard against another club except you. Lots of good players and parents are sticking it out. Just let it go.

Well, when you pay your deposit before such an announcement is made you are a bit locked in at this point.

And I don’t think Spirit parents are necessarily rooting for the demise of FCV as much offering honest perspective as parents who have gone through this before. Spirit was also purchased by a millionaire who also made promises. It is wise for FCV parents to be skeptical and be critical this coming year. Make note of how the goal posts get moved throughout the year.

Does Sunday, regen practice during the season in the fall bleed into one weeknight in the spring? Does one futsal practice in Loudoun during the fall turn into two a night over the winter?

Do changes in branding occur slowly?

But the smugness that FCV parents demonstrated during Spirit’s situation while simultaneously ignoring the cautionary tale is baffling. Has anyone really asked why FCV was purchased? Why it was sold is understandable but why St James purchased it is really the only question that will truly answer FCVs future.

Yes. And there isn't a post on this board that is correct.

Then what is the answer?

Why did the St. James purchase FCV?

Regardless of why, TSJFCV parents should accept that fact that this is the last year of training at Evergreen. By next year all training will be in Springfield (all Winter training this year will be at TSJ).

And even if that happens (which it won't since TSJ doesn't have enough field space), what is your point? Should players that play for the top girls teams in the area (all FCV teams U13 and above) should leave that success and pathway to join a club that is worse purely for some convenience? You are the one that should accept facts.

As time goes on, the player make up for the TSJFCV will transition away from Loudoun County but players that want to play on the best teams and are already on those teams are NOT moving to Loudoun to play for a crap team right in the middle of recruiting years.

Everything changes. Loudoun used to have the best teams and then top players left for FCV and DA. Not a stretch to think some will leave again. Just as coaches have no loyalty to players (see FCV, McLean coaches hiding in bushes to watch and recruit older players who have been developed elsewhere), players have no loyalty, either. TSJFCV 05 roster jumped from 18 this year to at least 21 for next year. Just a sign of what’s to come, huge rosters, kids sitting out each week. Not really a draw for new players. Unless, of course, they love being joysticked by their coach from kick off until the final whistle. Thank God they don’t have to implement their training into game action.
Currently, TSJFCV has the best record in the area, but seeing their results across the board in Showcase games, it’s hard to call them one of the best clubs. Self praise is no praise TSKFCV parent.

You must not be looking at the right results...FCV played against the top teams in the country at the last showcase and did very well.

This sounds like someone whose daughter didn't get an offer Like most of those grumbling over here.

Not sure why folks don't understand the TSJ partnership is to expand the player pool with other expansion coming soon.

Just wait for it!

Geez, when did watching your team lose 4-0 and 3-0 equate doing “quite well”. If you’re going to claim you’re a top team, show up at game time.

The 16/17 team did struggle in Colorado...I just looked. But the U14s and U15s did well against very good teams. Bottom line is, in the DC Metro, there is not a girls club that is even in the same conversation as FCV across all the ECNL/GDA age groups. That is not even debatable. So unless you are planning on moving your DD out of the area to somewhere far away from here, your argument that FCV struggled in one age group at the showcase is stupid. Take any other local club out to that showcase and the results would be horrifying.

Don’t forget the Penn Fusion showcase where the 05 FCV results were “horrifying”. The play was some of the worst out there and parents attacked each other on the sidelines with racial slurs and words like “your daughter sucks”. Regardless of win/loss record, that’s a disgraceful culture to allow your child to be a part of.
And, don’t act like that was an isolated incident. During the 06 FCV/WSVA game, the FCV coach actually told one of his own players that she was “an embarrassment to the DA”. She’s 12.
But, whatever floats your boat. Keep your kids in that kind of culture and they’ll grow up to be as miserable as those coaches and parents are.

I am sure there are plenty of things wrong at FCV. Just as I am sure that there are many things at every other club. Just read your posts. You say just as ugly things as the people you are attacking. That makes you part of the problem.

The difference is the PP didn't say the nasty things to a 12 year old girl the way a professional coach did. That coach was Bobby by the way.

That may or may not be true. But I have personally heard abhorrent things said to players boys and girls as young as U10 at several of the "top" clubs in the area.

Doesn’t change the fact that the FCV accepted culture is terrible.

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Anonymous wrote:STJ FCV will absolutely change within the next year or less. Anyone telling you differently is simply selling you something.

Are you the same poster who posts this like once a day? It’s like you have some vested interest in seeing the club fail. No one else seems to be rooting as hard against another club except you. Lots of good players and parents are sticking it out. Just let it go.

Well, when you pay your deposit before such an announcement is made you are a bit locked in at this point.

And I don’t think Spirit parents are necessarily rooting for the demise of FCV as much offering honest perspective as parents who have gone through this before. Spirit was also purchased by a millionaire who also made promises. It is wise for FCV parents to be skeptical and be critical this coming year. Make note of how the goal posts get moved throughout the year.

Does Sunday, regen practice during the season in the fall bleed into one weeknight in the spring? Does one futsal practice in Loudoun during the fall turn into two a night over the winter?

Do changes in branding occur slowly?

But the smugness that FCV parents demonstrated during Spirit’s situation while simultaneously ignoring the cautionary tale is baffling. Has anyone really asked why FCV was purchased? Why it was sold is understandable but why St James purchased it is really the only question that will truly answer FCVs future.

Yes. And there isn't a post on this board that is correct.

Then what is the answer?

Why did the St. James purchase FCV?

Regardless of why, TSJFCV parents should accept that fact that this is the last year of training at Evergreen. By next year all training will be in Springfield (all Winter training this year will be at TSJ).

And even if that happens (which it won't since TSJ doesn't have enough field space), what is your point? Should players that play for the top girls teams in the area (all FCV teams U13 and above) should leave that success and pathway to join a club that is worse purely for some convenience? You are the one that should accept facts.

As time goes on, the player make up for the TSJFCV will transition away from Loudoun County but players that want to play on the best teams and are already on those teams are NOT moving to Loudoun to play for a crap team right in the middle of recruiting years.

Everything changes. Loudoun used to have the best teams and then top players left for FCV and DA. Not a stretch to think some will leave again. Just as coaches have no loyalty to players (see FCV, McLean coaches hiding in bushes to watch and recruit older players who have been developed elsewhere), players have no loyalty, either. TSJFCV 05 roster jumped from 18 this year to at least 21 for next year. Just a sign of what’s to come, huge rosters, kids sitting out each week. Not really a draw for new players. Unless, of course, they love being joysticked by their coach from kick off until the final whistle. Thank God they don’t have to implement their training into game action.
Currently, TSJFCV has the best record in the area, but seeing their results across the board in Showcase games, it’s hard to call them one of the best clubs. Self praise is no praise TSKFCV parent.

You must not be looking at the right results...FCV played against the top teams in the country at the last showcase and did very well.

This sounds like someone whose daughter didn't get an offer Like most of those grumbling over here.

Not sure why folks don't understand the TSJ partnership is to expand the player pool with other expansion coming soon.

Just wait for it!

Geez, when did watching your team lose 4-0 and 3-0 equate doing “quite well”. If you’re going to claim you’re a top team, show up at game time.

The 16/17 team did struggle in Colorado...I just looked. But the U14s and U15s did well against very good teams. Bottom line is, in the DC Metro, there is not a girls club that is even in the same conversation as FCV across all the ECNL/GDA age groups. That is not even debatable. So unless you are planning on moving your DD out of the area to somewhere far away from here, your argument that FCV struggled in one age group at the showcase is stupid. Take any other local club out to that showcase and the results would be horrifying.

Don’t forget the Penn Fusion showcase where the 05 FCV results were “horrifying”. The play was some of the worst out there and parents attacked each other on the sidelines with racial slurs and words like “your daughter sucks”. Regardless of win/loss record, that’s a disgraceful culture to allow your child to be a part of.
And, don’t act like that was an isolated incident. During the 06 FCV/WSVA game, the FCV coach actually told one of his own players that she was “an embarrassment to the DA”. She’s 12.
But, whatever floats your boat. Keep your kids in that kind of culture and they’ll grow up to be as miserable as those coaches and parents are.

I wouldn't call them horrifying. PDA worked the 05 team pretty well. But that PDA team beats everyone pretty soundly.
There were no racial slurs, just arguing.
I have not heard of the 06 incident either.
Every club has issues, FCV is not different. Parents are passionate about there kids. I see more joysticking, arguing and parent involvement from lower level play (NPL, NCSL, some ECNL, middle school, high school) than at the DA level.
You either have not experienced the 'culture' at FCV or are merely going on rumors by parents whose kids did not get an offer and are bitter.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven't seen it mentioned here, but STJ struck a deal with Team Durant AAU (basketball) the day before the FCV deal was announced. They have Kevin Durant's step dad on board as part of that agreement. Durant AAU has Nike $; I doubt they we were out shopping themselves. I think this is more a matter of STJ looking for 'premium' programs into their portfolio.

100% agree with this. Also now a DC United training location. They will use the success and name of these top clubs and expand based on that. thats where they see value in this.

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Anonymous wrote:STJ FCV will absolutely change within the next year or less. Anyone telling you differently is simply selling you something.

Are you the same poster who posts this like once a day? It’s like you have some vested interest in seeing the club fail. No one else seems to be rooting as hard against another club except you. Lots of good players and parents are sticking it out. Just let it go.

Well, when you pay your deposit before such an announcement is made you are a bit locked in at this point.

And I don’t think Spirit parents are necessarily rooting for the demise of FCV as much offering honest perspective as parents who have gone through this before. Spirit was also purchased by a millionaire who also made promises. It is wise for FCV parents to be skeptical and be critical this coming year. Make note of how the goal posts get moved throughout the year.

Does Sunday, regen practice during the season in the fall bleed into one weeknight in the spring? Does one futsal practice in Loudoun during the fall turn into two a night over the winter?

Do changes in branding occur slowly?

But the smugness that FCV parents demonstrated during Spirit’s situation while simultaneously ignoring the cautionary tale is baffling. Has anyone really asked why FCV was purchased? Why it was sold is understandable but why St James purchased it is really the only question that will truly answer FCVs future.

Yes. And there isn't a post on this board that is correct.

Then what is the answer?

Why did the St. James purchase FCV?

Regardless of why, TSJFCV parents should accept that fact that this is the last year of training at Evergreen. By next year all training will be in Springfield (all Winter training this year will be at TSJ).

And even if that happens (which it won't since TSJ doesn't have enough field space), what is your point? Should players that play for the top girls teams in the area (all FCV teams U13 and above) should leave that success and pathway to join a club that is worse purely for some convenience? You are the one that should accept facts.

As time goes on, the player make up for the TSJFCV will transition away from Loudoun County but players that want to play on the best teams and are already on those teams are NOT moving to Loudoun to play for a crap team right in the middle of recruiting years.

Everything changes. Loudoun used to have the best teams and then top players left for FCV and DA. Not a stretch to think some will leave again. Just as coaches have no loyalty to players (see FCV, McLean coaches hiding in bushes to watch and recruit older players who have been developed elsewhere), players have no loyalty, either. TSJFCV 05 roster jumped from 18 this year to at least 21 for next year. Just a sign of what’s to come, huge rosters, kids sitting out each week. Not really a draw for new players. Unless, of course, they love being joysticked by their coach from kick off until the final whistle. Thank God they don’t have to implement their training into game action.
Currently, TSJFCV has the best record in the area, but seeing their results across the board in Showcase games, it’s hard to call them one of the best clubs. Self praise is no praise TSKFCV parent.

You must not be looking at the right results...FCV played against the top teams in the country at the last showcase and did very well.

This sounds like someone whose daughter didn't get an offer Like most of those grumbling over here.

Not sure why folks don't understand the TSJ partnership is to expand the player pool with other expansion coming soon.

Just wait for it!

Geez, when did watching your team lose 4-0 and 3-0 equate doing “quite well”. If you’re going to claim you’re a top team, show up at game time.

The 16/17 team did struggle in Colorado...I just looked. But the U14s and U15s did well against very good teams. Bottom line is, in the DC Metro, there is not a girls club that is even in the same conversation as FCV across all the ECNL/GDA age groups. That is not even debatable. So unless you are planning on moving your DD out of the area to somewhere far away from here, your argument that FCV struggled in one age group at the showcase is stupid. Take any other local club out to that showcase and the results would be horrifying.

The DA/ECNL showcases have tiered schedules. If you have 1 or 2 wins you’re going to play other teams with 1 or 2 wins. Spirit did not play “very good” teams. They played bottom teams like themselves.

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The 16/17 team did struggle in Colorado...I just looked. But the U14s and U15s did well against very good teams. Bottom line is, in the DC Metro, there is not a girls club that is even in the same conversation as FCV across all the ECNL/GDA age groups. That is not even debatable. So unless you are planning on moving your DD out of the area to somewhere far away from here, your argument that FCV struggled in one age group at the showcase is stupid. Take any other local club out to that showcase and the results would be horrifying.

The DA/ECNL showcases have tiered schedules. If you have 1 or 2 wins you’re going to play other teams with 1 or 2 wins. Spirit did not play “very good” teams. They played bottom teams like themselves.

The only thing in this part of the conversation related to WS is the thread title. I don't think anyone has been saying WS played "very good teams." People are talking about FCV, which DID play very good teams. And lost some -- which, to be fair, may be because they were playing "very good teams." But WS isn't being discussed re. performance in Denver showcase.

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Just a total FCV social media campaign.

Brag as loud as possible on Twitter and anonymously bash another club on a forum.

What is the point of bragging about your success if your competition sucks so bad Bobby?

You lose to PDA and Tophat and you lose to them badly. FCV beats mediocre clubs in a mediocre league. When they play quality competition and lose, fights break out on the sidelines because the parents don't understand that they are paper tigers and all their Twitter praises are nothing more than hubris.

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Anonymous wrote:STJ FCV will absolutely change within the next year or less. Anyone telling you differently is simply selling you something.

Are you the same poster who posts this like once a day? It’s like you have some vested interest in seeing the club fail. No one else seems to be rooting as hard against another club except you. Lots of good players and parents are sticking it out. Just let it go.

Well, when you pay your deposit before such an announcement is made you are a bit locked in at this point.

And I don’t think Spirit parents are necessarily rooting for the demise of FCV as much offering honest perspective as parents who have gone through this before. Spirit was also purchased by a millionaire who also made promises. It is wise for FCV parents to be skeptical and be critical this coming year. Make note of how the goal posts get moved throughout the year.

Does Sunday, regen practice during the season in the fall bleed into one weeknight in the spring? Does one futsal practice in Loudoun during the fall turn into two a night over the winter?

Do changes in branding occur slowly?

But the smugness that FCV parents demonstrated during Spirit’s situation while simultaneously ignoring the cautionary tale is baffling. Has anyone really asked why FCV was purchased? Why it was sold is understandable but why St James purchased it is really the only question that will truly answer FCVs future.

Yes. And there isn't a post on this board that is correct.

Then what is the answer?

Why did the St. James purchase FCV?

Regardless of why, TSJFCV parents should accept that fact that this is the last year of training at Evergreen. By next year all training will be in Springfield (all Winter training this year will be at TSJ).

And even if that happens (which it won't since TSJ doesn't have enough field space), what is your point? Should players that play for the top girls teams in the area (all FCV teams U13 and above) should leave that success and pathway to join a club that is worse purely for some convenience? You are the one that should accept facts.

As time goes on, the player make up for the TSJFCV will transition away from Loudoun County but players that want to play on the best teams and are already on those teams are NOT moving to Loudoun to play for a crap team right in the middle of recruiting years.

Everything changes. Loudoun used to have the best teams and then top players left for FCV and DA. Not a stretch to think some will leave again. Just as coaches have no loyalty to players (see FCV, McLean coaches hiding in bushes to watch and recruit older players who have been developed elsewhere), players have no loyalty, either. TSJFCV 05 roster jumped from 18 this year to at least 21 for next year. Just a sign of what’s to come, huge rosters, kids sitting out each week. Not really a draw for new players. Unless, of course, they love being joysticked by their coach from kick off until the final whistle. Thank God they don’t have to implement their training into game action.
Currently, TSJFCV has the best record in the area, but seeing their results across the board in Showcase games, it’s hard to call them one of the best clubs. Self praise is no praise TSKFCV parent.

You must not be looking at the right results...FCV played against the top teams in the country at the last showcase and did very well.

This sounds like someone whose daughter didn't get an offer Like most of those grumbling over here.

Not sure why folks don't understand the TSJ partnership is to expand the player pool with other expansion coming soon.

Just wait for it!

Geez, when did watching your team lose 4-0 and 3-0 equate doing “quite well”. If you’re going to claim you’re a top team, show up at game time.

The 16/17 team did struggle in Colorado...I just looked. But the U14s and U15s did well against very good teams. Bottom line is, in the DC Metro, there is not a girls club that is even in the same conversation as FCV across all the ECNL/GDA age groups. That is not even debatable. So unless you are planning on moving your DD out of the area to somewhere far away from here, your argument that FCV struggled in one age group at the showcase is stupid. Take any other local club out to that showcase and the results would be horrifying.

Don’t forget the Penn Fusion showcase where the 05 FCV results were “horrifying”. The play was some of the worst out there and parents attacked each other on the sidelines with racial slurs and words like “your daughter sucks”. Regardless of win/loss record, that’s a disgraceful culture to allow your child to be a part of.
And, don’t act like that was an isolated incident. During the 06 FCV/WSVA game, the FCV coach actually told one of his own players that she was “an embarrassment to the DA”. She’s 12.
But, whatever floats your boat. Keep your kids in that kind of culture and they’ll grow up to be as miserable as those coaches and parents are.

I wouldn't call them horrifying. PDA worked the 05 team pretty well. But that PDA team beats everyone pretty soundly.
There were no racial slurs, just arguing.
I have not heard of the 06 incident either.
Every club has issues, FCV is not different. Parents are passionate about there kids. I see more joysticking, arguing and parent involvement from lower level play (NPL, NCSL, some ECNL, middle school, high school) than at the DA level.
You either have not experienced the 'culture' at FCV or are merely going on rumors by parents whose kids did not get an offer and are bitter.

The display of the 05’s was awful. They fell apart under the pressure. Parents did more than argue, there were racial slurs. The 06 “incident” definitely happened. And, Bobby joysticks every age group he coaches from kick off to final whistle. Just go watch a tape of one of those games and see for yourself. It’s extremely annoying and surprising that he does it week after week- maybe that’s why his players don’t like him.
Iff that’s what you want and what your daughter needs, great. Just don’t deny it happens and try to play it off like “it’s worse other places”.