| They are NOT opening. |
Who turned this into a spectacle? Ask yourself that? |
| The crazy part is, even after all of the data and sworn testimony, there are a ton a comments on Texas news social media claiming that none of it was the camp’s fault and nothing possibly could have been done. People acting like the camp is being unfairly “targeted” and did absolutely nothing wrong. And these people believe this from the bottom of their hearts! And that is why we have the current political leadership we do. |
There's a difference between believing they did nothing wrong and acknowledging that it was an extraordinary event. It is unlikely that any plan would have addressed the combination of events that occurred without contradictions. |
How many did other camps have? |
Not the point. After 27 girls died because of the Eastland’s criminal negligence, you would think their application to renew their license would at the very least, not have even one deficiency! Yet, these cavalier monsters have the gall to not address the deficiencies that caused the deaths of these poor girls. Still no evacuation plan and still not reporting their deaths to the state. Hoping the Eastlands are criminally charged as well. |
You clearly didn’t follow any of the sworn testimony. Had they simply had a plan (as they were required by law to have) to evacuate (rather than stay put) the girls could have easily walked 60 seconds up a hill to safety and they’d be alive today. This is not even in dispute, even by camp owners. They were told not to leave their cabins and they obeyed and it cost them their lives. |
I do too, they withdrew because they knew it looked bad and did it to save face |
It is insane that anyone thinks this. |
I’m a former Mystic camper and I don’t think it should ever reopen. Also, for all of those bashing Mystic as a MAGA Christian camp, I don’t know when Mystic stared branding itself or being known as a “Christian” camp. In the 80s and 90s, we had optional chapel services on Sunday (I never went nor did most of my cabin mates) but that’s as far as religion went. We weren’t singing Christian camp songs and religion was not the reason anyone attended. My best camp friend was Jewish. All of the families who sent their daughters to Mystic did so because it was tradition. Religion had nothing to do with it and most of the campers come from blue areas of the state like Dallas, Houston and San Antonio. Hardly MAGA. I think one of the Eastland DILs is more hard core Christian and she brought that to the camp more recently and I think most of the parents ignored it or went along with it because they were long-time Mystic families. There are several camps in the state that have a religious focus. The religious people send their kids to those camps. No one sends their kids to Mystic for religion. Also, the brother camp where Mystic families send their boys has no religious affiliation. I’ve been scratching my head the last year seeing this be about a “Christian” camp. That’s not what it’s ever been known for until the media came in. I would say it’s always been known as a long-standing Texas UC and UMC girls camp, not a Christian camp. |
On DCUM? The OP of this thread and the posters who are using this tragedy and disparaging the families as some kind of entertainment. |
No, you don't have more facts than the families who were actually there, FFS. You're mental. |
Former 90s Waldemar camper here. Agree with this. The Mystic Christian branding was a surprise to me because it was never so for decades. They seem to have been emphasizing that the last 10 years or so especially with the Cypress Lake camp. This was definitely not the draw for the Guad camp families, which were mostly legacy. |
I think they said only 3 camps out of almost 200 submitted renewals that were approved the first time. This is a brand new process for all the camps. I would assume most are easily fixable/tick-tacky. That said, the Mystic application seemed pretty unprofessional and reflected the camp's tendency to keep things insular, rather than outsource to people who know what they are doing. |
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Had they taken a year or two off, they would've been able to reopen with minimal blowback.
But to submit an application with 27 deficiencies and try to reopen a year later while emotions are still very raw and the trickle-truth headlines about their actions? Unbelievably greedy and sociopathic. Read the room, morons. |