Early Predictions 2028: AOC, Whitmer, Newsome or …?

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Anonymous wrote: I would pay to watch AOC and MTG argue the issues in the Lincoln-Douglas debate format. I find them both articulate, authentic, and compelling. AOC versus MTG in 2028 would guarantee a female president. Or the winner/loser of these debates could pair up as top/bottom on a bipartisan ticket to run against Rubio - who, incidentally, is the only keeper of the Trump II administration.

GOP will never get behind someone as unattractive as MTG. No ugly woman has ever gotten far with them. Instead they’ve backed beautiful dummies like Sarah Palin.

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Anonymous wrote:Vance(?)/Trump vs. Buttigieg/Obama
Only “elected” twice still.
Although according to Donald’s truth he would have been elected POTUS 3 times. But the Constitution doesn’t matter anymore anyway

Vance is in an interracial marriage.

Vance has zero chance of ever having success running for POTUS. Just ask Harris, Pence, and Mondale what political life is like after being VP of one of our 3 most unpopular presidents ever.

Repeating it does not make it true. Trump is not "unpopular". Not recognizing that is a huge part of the problem with many Democrats.

Well, he isn't unpopular relative Bin Laden and Jeffrey Dahmer but otherwise he is as unpopular as he was during his 1st term and even less popular than Biden was during the 1st year of his term. What happens to presidents as unpopular as Trump? They cause their party to lose big time in midterms and the next POTUS election.

If you don't understand these very basic facts that have been proven over and over recently, you're a complete idiot or just in denial.

You need to get out of the DCUM bubble. I bet you were "shocked" when he won both times because "everyone you know" wouldn’t vote for him. You’ll be "shocked" again when Vance wins. Like I said, not recognizing the popularity of Trump is a flaw of Democrats.

Trump earned his victory in 2016. He then fell on his face and LOST to an unfit and unlikable 77 year old in 2020. He then couldn't even secure 50% of the popular vote when gifted an easy election victory after the Dem incumbent fell on his face and backed out of the race just 3 months prior to Election Day.

Obama, Clinton, Reagan or any other reasonably popular candidate would have won in 2024 with 500 electoral votes and 70% of the popular vote. Why is it that Trump couldn't even garner 50% of the popular vote in this situation? Because he is, relative to the norm, a weak and unpopular politician.

Numbers don't lie. All I mention above happened! Just keep denying 2 + 2 = 4 and see where that gets you, idiot.

You keep mentioning popular vote like it matters, and I’m the idiot? Popular vote has zero to do with who wins the election. You do know that right?

What exactly is your point? Are you suggesting that Trump has magically changed his leopard spots and won't give the Dems easy election victories in 2026 & 2028 like he did in 2018 & 2020?

I hope you're right and he does magically transform into a reasonably popular president but as it stands, he is on the same trajectory as his first term. You have no substance that serves as a leg to stand on when suggesting his second term will evolve any differently than his first.

My point is outside of the DCUM bubble, he’s very popular. People here refuse to see it.

A valiant effort to pierce the DCUM bubble but it won’t work. I tried to warn people here before the 2016 and 2024 elections too, and was roundly scolded for even thinking Trump was going to easily win. Of course Clinton was going to win and of course Harris was going to win. DCUM said so.

It wasn’t “so obvious” either time. The polls had Clinton ahead for most of the race, and she actually got more popular votes.
And for Harris it was more equivocal but it was hard to imagine people for a lunatic like Trump (for the 3rd time).

Experts were 85% sure Biden wasn't going to win in 2024 prior to the debate, 97% sure after the debate, and 100% sure when it was full month after the debate before he exited the race. Any GOP nominee with a pulse would have been victorious in 2024. That lucky soul just happened to be Trump.

The end result in 2024 had very little to do with Harris and Trump; it was all about the unprecedented incumbent party failure stemming from Biden's unpopularity, his choice to seek a second term, and then the circumstances behind and timing of his exit from the race.

+ 100

Trump has never beaten another man. Biden was a weak candidate prior to his first term and even he beat Trump.

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She’s behind Harris and you call that a good thing? Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:She’s behind Harris and you call that a good thing? Wow.

"Despite being one of the most progressive candidates in the field, AOC won a majority of her matchups. It's a strong result that suggests perceived electability isn’t a major obstacle for her at this stage."

It's "good" because she outperformed expectations.

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Anonymous wrote:Now to AOC, Whitmer, or any woman.

Whitmer is an experienced governor and seasoned politician.

AOC is a recruited bartender.

lol @ calling Whitmer seasoned. An alcoholic state school sorority girl turned degree mill law grad her filthy rich insurance exec dad made into a politician. Dumber than a rock, no instincts, and a repulsive personality.

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Anonymous wrote: I would pay to watch AOC and MTG argue the issues in the Lincoln-Douglas debate format. I find them both articulate, authentic, and compelling. AOC versus MTG in 2028 would guarantee a female president. Or the winner/loser of these debates could pair up as top/bottom on a bipartisan ticket to run against Rubio - who, incidentally, is the only keeper of the Trump II administration.

GOP will never get behind someone as unattractive as MTG. No ugly woman has ever gotten far with them. Instead they’ve backed beautiful dummies like Sarah Palin.

Better to be a beautiful dummy than an ugly dummy like Kamala Harris.

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I'm sorry y'all but for all her faults, Sarah Palin is a Rhodes Scholar compared to the latest crop of R's.

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Anyone with Rahm Emmanuel on their BINGO card?

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Anonymous wrote: I would pay to watch AOC and MTG argue the issues in the Lincoln-Douglas debate format. I find them both articulate, authentic, and compelling. AOC versus MTG in 2028 would guarantee a female president. Or the winner/loser of these debates could pair up as top/bottom on a bipartisan ticket to run against Rubio - who, incidentally, is the only keeper of the Trump II administration.

GOP will never get behind someone as unattractive as MTG. No ugly woman has ever gotten far with them. Instead they’ve backed beautiful dummies like Sarah Palin.

Is that how you feel about Condoleezza Rice?

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They should ask GOP supporters and independents which Democrat they would most likely support if the only options were Dems.

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After this administration, I'm so so hoping for someone with authenticity, empathy and intellect. Raise your hand if you have these qualities...

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They should ask GOP supporters and independents which Democrat they would most likely support if the only options were Dems.

2028 POTUS candidate polling in 2025 is absolutely meaningless and to some degree, it's counter-productive.

The last time this country had a newly elected POTUS who was of legitimate presidential caliber was when Obama was elected in 2008. Obama had yet to become well known nationally in 2005 and very few had him on their short list of potential 2008 nominees in 2005. March 2005 polling in the link below for reference. Clinton was a known name in political circles by 1989 but he wouldn't have topped any 1992 Dem nominee polling data in 1989. Elite leaders emerge on their own merit through their likability and superior political skill.

https://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/usapolls/HC050308.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:After this administration, I'm so so hoping for someone with authenticity, empathy and intellect. Raise your hand if you have these qualities...

The Democrat who takes the WH in 2028 will rule with an iron fist using the precedent set by Trump. It is just a matter of who it will be

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Anonymous wrote:Now to AOC, Whitmer, or any woman.

Whitmer is an experienced governor and seasoned politician.

AOC is a recruited bartender.

lol @ calling Whitmer seasoned. An alcoholic state school sorority girl turned degree mill law grad her filthy rich insurance exec dad made into a politician. Dumber than a rock, no instincts, and a repulsive personality.

Whitmer offended Catholics /Christians. I forget what she did but she’s definitely a non starter