Who are you voting for in the Dem primary for mayor?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am an anti-Mamdani person (and likely the one who has posted the most) who has repeatedly stated what my major beefs are:
Lack of experience in government and/or leading a large organization
Rent freezes are an awful idea that will lead to less affordable housing and are not fair to owners who are dealing with inflation
City run supermarkets are an awful idea - the city does not know how to run supermarkets and they are a low margin business that do best with scale.

And in our stupid argument about NYC street cred I named a low budget out of the way bodega down the street from your allegedly multi-million dollar loft so don't say I only cite tourist traps. You probably have your own table at Locanda Verde, where the obnoxious pretentious llive.

So stop with your ignorant garbage where you cherry pick posts and ignore the majority of them. And stop claiming to be a more legit New Yorker than the rest of us.

And perhaps you should leave your bubble and meet more people because there are a lot of us out there who don't like Mamdani for the reasons cited.

It is not a sign of defeat to admit the other side is making reasonable points and that your side has weakness. I have admitted that I appreciate that Mamdani is making some effort to reach out to the other side. And that he seems to want to tackle early childhood education (I think every candidate said that, but I will still give credit). Are you capable of doing the same? Or are you just going to continue to cherry pick and be rude and childish.

I don't know why I bother.

Huh? 🤔 I have no idea what you’re talking about. I don’t recall anything about a ‘low budget’ tribeca bodega - what one do you mean?- nor do I live in a tribeca loft. You are probably engaging with different people, because there are multiple people who support Mamdani. Not sure why you’re flipping out here or why you’d mention a ‘low budget’ bodega. Huh? Btw, hot tip to you. No one calls them ‘low budget bodegas’ - that’s redundant. And no one knows the name of their local bodega, never mind ones in a neighborhood they claim to not live in.

In any event, these are some valid issues you present but I don’t agree with them.

Grocery stores. People are trying to make much more of this than reality. It is one store per borough which is nothing, and in food deserts. Mamdani has also already said that his idea is just for a small pilot program. No reason to get hysterical and if people like the Gristedes guy are flipping out over it, then they can certainly come to the table and try to work with Mamdani. It’s not like Gristedes has opened stores in these areas. And let’s be real, Gristedes is struggling for other reasons. He’s run a business that can’t keep up with the other players for awhile now. Nothing to do with Mamdani but he can pretend he’s leaving because of him to save face, I guess.
I live in an ok, not super wealthy, nabe in NYC and there are 4 grocery store chains within 3 blocks of me. Plus two CVS. Yet when I go to certain areas of NYC, it’s a wasteland and people shop at bodegas. Is trying to fix that so awful?

Re rent freezes. I don’t totally love that idea either but when you dig into it, it’s not as crazy as it sounds. Adams allowed multiple rent increases under his tenure (made sense, prices went up) so holding rents for a period of time now is not so crazy. LL are eligible for 50k subsidies for repairs and upgrades (which allows them to raise rent in certain cases), and I’ll note that many of these poor landlord who say they can’t afford rent increases were able to donate millions to Cuomo’s campaign. ?! Housing is a huge issue that must be solved, and all those Republican types who were in bed with RE/business only made the situation more dire. I fear Cuomo is beholden to these same interests. Why would we want that again?

Lack of experience. That’s a huge issue of course but the other choices are Adams who is already in bed with Trump and who is stupidly corrupt. And Cuomo who seems to be aligned with big business (not awful but not what we need in this moment of time). Wealthy NYers are not going to leave NYC even though they have threatened it over and over, and the business issues that were mentioned above (by you?) have little to do with the Mayor and much more to do with the way work has changed since Covid. Trying to claim ‘publishing houses’ are leaving NYC because of the mayor is a laughable argument, and is either being made in total ignorance or purposeful misrepresentation.

So who do you plan to vote for and why?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am an anti-Mamdani person (and likely the one who has posted the most) who has repeatedly stated what my major beefs are:
Lack of experience in government and/or leading a large organization
Rent freezes are an awful idea that will lead to less affordable housing and are not fair to owners who are dealing with inflation
City run supermarkets are an awful idea - the city does not know how to run supermarkets and they are a low margin business that do best with scale.

And in our stupid argument about NYC street cred I named a low budget out of the way bodega down the street from your allegedly multi-million dollar loft so don't say I only cite tourist traps. You probably have your own table at Locanda Verde, where the obnoxious pretentious llive.

So stop with your ignorant garbage where you cherry pick posts and ignore the majority of them. And stop claiming to be a more legit New Yorker than the rest of us.

And perhaps you should leave your bubble and meet more people because there are a lot of us out there who don't like Mamdani for the reasons cited.

It is not a sign of defeat to admit the other side is making reasonable points and that your side has weakness. I have admitted that I appreciate that Mamdani is making some effort to reach out to the other side. And that he seems to want to tackle early childhood education (I think every candidate said that, but I will still give credit). Are you capable of doing the same? Or are you just going to continue to cherry pick and be rude and childish.

I don't know why I bother.

Huh? 🤔 I have no idea what you’re talking about. I don’t recall anything about a ‘low budget’ tribeca bodega - what one do you mean?- nor do I live in a tribeca loft. You are probably engaging with different people, because there are multiple people who support Mamdani. Not sure why you’re flipping out here or why you’d mention a ‘low budget’ bodega. Huh? Btw, hot tip to you. No one calls them ‘low budget bodegas’ - that’s redundant. And no one knows the name of their local bodega, never mind ones in a neighborhood they claim to not live in.

In any event, these are some valid issues you present but I don’t agree with them.

Grocery stores. People are trying to make much more of this than reality. It is one store per borough which is nothing, and in food deserts. Mamdani has also already said that his idea is just for a small pilot program. No reason to get hysterical and if people like the Gristedes guy are flipping out over it, then they can certainly come to the table and try to work with Mamdani. It’s not like Gristedes has opened stores in these areas. And let’s be real, Gristedes is struggling for other reasons. He’s run a business that can’t keep up with the other players for awhile now. Nothing to do with Mamdani but he can pretend he’s leaving because of him to save face, I guess.
I live in an ok, not super wealthy, nabe in NYC and there are 4 grocery store chains within 3 blocks of me. Plus two CVS. Yet when I go to certain areas of NYC, it’s a wasteland and people shop at bodegas. Is trying to fix that so awful?

Re rent freezes. I don’t totally love that idea either but when you dig into it, it’s not as crazy as it sounds. Adams allowed multiple rent increases under his tenure (made sense, prices went up) so holding rents for a period of time now is not so crazy. LL are eligible for 50k subsidies for repairs and upgrades (which allows them to raise rent in certain cases), and I’ll note that many of these poor landlord who say they can’t afford rent increases were able to donate millions to Cuomo’s campaign. ?! Housing is a huge issue that must be solved, and all those Republican types who were in bed with RE/business only made the situation more dire. I fear Cuomo is beholden to these same interests. Why would we want that again?

Lack of experience. That’s a huge issue of course but the other choices are Adams who is already in bed with Trump and who is stupidly corrupt. And Cuomo who seems to be aligned with big business (not awful but not what we need in this moment of time). Wealthy NYers are not going to leave NYC even though they have threatened it over and over, and the business issues that were mentioned above (by you?) have little to do with the Mayor and much more to do with the way work has changed since Covid. Trying to claim ‘publishing houses’ are leaving NYC because of the mayor is a laughable argument, and is either being made in total ignorance or purposeful misrepresentation.

So who do you plan to vote for and why?

DP
Lol. Pp, you gotta admit this is true. Come on now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m voting for Mamdani but I have been spammed with anti Mamdani texts. Anyone else?

Ditto!

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/17/mamdani-turns-on-the-charm-meets-his-critics-head-on-00459150

Mamdani is meeting with people and building bridges. Cuomo and Adams are hanging out in the Hamptons, courting the 1%, and desperately trying to knock Mamdani.

And you do recall that Cuomo raised taxes on high earners and corps when he was governor, right? But when Mamdani talks about this, he’s going to wreck the entire country? Got it.

More moderate Dems would endorse Mamdani but they’re terrified of upsetting Zionist donors. Pathetic.

When he was governor, dealing with a state income tax. Name me the city income tax rate in San Francisco, Los Angeles, Miami, and Boston. The 1% you disparage are why the city is a good place. They fund what you hold near and dear and they are increasingly mobile. Prop 13, cleaner streets, and year round sunshine make the Bay Area pretty desirable. For recent grads, tech is now a better ticket than finance except for the very tippy top of asset managers.

As publishing houses, galleries, parks, and other institutions in the city further decay (they are shadows of themselves), more and more will look for the exit (like rent controlled landlords are now). I do not care one bit whether renters in the South Bronx or East New York fall through their floors or have exposed asbestos no one wants to remove. This is the city Mamdani wants.

Ok you are obviously clueless and/or a troll. Again, you show a remarkable ignorance of actual city life.

The decline of publishing houses (what a strange thing to reference) has zero to do with the mayor, and everything to do with business realities. It’s not 1920 anymore.

And parks are doing just fine. There is a huge park project right now on the east side along the waterway and it’s been wonderful. And of course the high line a few years back. And revitalization projects on the west side and Brooklyn. West side even has a beach now. So fun.

Galleries? No idea what you’re even talking about. They are all over the city. Flourishing.

People aspire to move to New York to be around cultured professionals, the types who work for publishing houses (many of which have left the city). New York’s share of high culture has declined tremendously since the Bloomberg years. Smart recent grads primed to make money don’t think living in Jackson Heights and eating 15 dollar takeout in a cockroach infested rent controlled apartment is the dream. That is Mamdani’s New York.

That’s the life of any recent college graduate. First we complain that Gen Z is spoiled and now we want to spoil them? I find the anti-Mamdani crowd hysterical in all their doomsday scenarios.

No it’s not. An analyst at a bulge bracket bank, MBB, and in tech is making more than enough to live in the West Village and enjoy fine dining. They would never live in some dump like the middle of Queens or deep Brooklyn.

DP. First, an analyst is not making enough to live in the WV unless it’s a space with a bunch of roommates. And second, you are so hopelessly clueless about city life that you don’t even realize that they don’t care much about living in the WV anyway. West village is for older rich people. No recent grad cares to live there. You apparently haven’t been to queens in a long time either, or Brooklyn for that matter.

The WV is the most desired place for recent grads. Most recent grads have a roommate or two. Finance bros live there in hordes, annoying old people and locals to no end.

https://www.thecut.com/article/nyc-west-village-neighborhood-new-generation-women-girls.html

You are seriously basing your understanding of the real estate trends in the city based on a Ny mag article about Tik Tik girls from Texas who want to live a modern sex in the city lifestyle for a few years? This is a small touristy driven sliver of NYC, and NY mag directs their articles towards outsiders for the most part. This isn’t real life for most people. Tons of new grads want to live in other places. Dimes square was the it spot a few years ago for the young and culturally elite (or want to be elite). EV will always be popular, as is Williamsburg and Astoria and LIC. If you’re Jewish and religious, UWS is the scene. If you’re more basic, Murray Hill is always standard. Anyway, glad someone is buying magazines these days. How nice of you!

Anyway, not sure what this has to do with Mandani or why there are all these posts blaming him for things when he’s not even mayor!

[Anonymous]

It looks like Adams may drop out and take a job with Trump.

Surprised?

What does that mean for the election? Could Cuomo win?

[Anonymous]

It’s not going to end up helping Cuomo, any gains he sees from getting more of Adams’ voters than Mamdani does will be offset by the fact that it more closely aligns Cuomo with Trump. Mamdani is already running ads calling Cuomo Trump’s puppet, and between this and the Epstein connections and the lineup of terrible rich people backing Cuomo, it’s not a hard case to make.

I do think it’s characteristically naive of Adams to accept a job from Trump which he could not actually start until January (assuming he doesn’t resign, which he won’t because then Jumaane Williams would become mayor and he hates Jumaane Williams) in exchange for help with something that’ll be done in November; “relying on Trump to pay what he owes” has been the ruin of many a contractor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s not going to end up helping Cuomo, any gains he sees from getting more of Adams’ voters than Mamdani does will be offset by the fact that it more closely aligns Cuomo with Trump. Mamdani is already running ads calling Cuomo Trump’s puppet, and between this and the Epstein connections and the lineup of terrible rich people backing Cuomo, it’s not a hard case to make.

I do think it’s characteristically naive of Adams to accept a job from Trump which he could not actually start until January (assuming he doesn’t resign, which he won’t because then Jumaane Williams would become mayor and he hates Jumaane Williams) in exchange for help with something that’ll be done in November; “relying on Trump to pay what he owes” has been the ruin of many a contractor.

Adams is an idiot. Too bad. I didn’t vote for him, but I had hopes when he was elected.

[Anonymous]

I am one of the main people posting here against Mamdani. But that does not mean I support the others. And unfortunately, every day the others look worse and worse. I wish I could choose none of the above. But then we might end up with Jumaane, who might actually be worse than Mamdani.

Awful president. Bad mayor. Lord help me. Who is the mayor of Toronto?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am one of the main people posting here against Mamdani. But that does not mean I support the others. And unfortunately, every day the others look worse and worse. I wish I could choose none of the above. But then we might end up with Jumaane, who might actually be worse than Mamdani.

Awful president. Bad mayor. Lord help me. Who is the mayor of Toronto?

Why would we end up with Jumaane?

[Anonymous]

As public advocate, Jumaane would be acting mayor if Adams resigned, probably until the end of the term since it’s too late for a special election. But he wouldn’t serve beyond that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It looks like Adams may drop out and take a job with Trump.

Surprised?

What does that mean for the election? Could Cuomo win?

I don't know but I think people arw looking to vote against Cuomo more than being pro-Mandami. It's not like he is some unknown. Been there, done that, and not well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It looks like Adams may drop out and take a job with Trump.

Surprised?

What does that mean for the election? Could Cuomo win?

I don't know but I think people arw looking to vote against Cuomo more than being pro-Mandami. It's not like he is some unknown. Been there, done that, and not well.

I’ll admit I ranked Cuomo first but I won’t vote for him in the general. I’m disgusted by him sucking up to wealthy special interests

[Anonymous]

Is that Walden guy still running as an independent?

[Anonymous]

No, Walden dropped out a few days ago.

[Anonymous]

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Adams is an idiot. Too bad. I didn’t vote for him, but I had hopes when he was elected.

Adams was not the worst mayor. He takes crime seriously. His "city of yes" plan is actually good for housing (while freezing rent in rent stabilized apartments is a useless populist move). He promoted phonics and got rid of balanced literacy in public schools. He rolled out trash collateralizatoin and appointed a very competent "rats czar".

I did not agree with some of his moves and obviously he is corrupt but I have to admit he has been a decent mayor in comparison to most of the alternatives.