DC United Academy - aa strong academy or not

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sour Grapes on steroids 😂

Does it sting less that your kid was rejected by slinging mud at the academy?
If you say enough times they're bad then that makes the rejection not as bad lol

Sad and pitiful

So do you have anything to counter the points in this thread?

Innuendos and false flags

There are no valid points to counter.
Just uninformed biased opinions from emotional folks

This post is full of legitimate issues with DCU. Anyone posting otherwise is just flat out lying.

Or the personal issues are lies

Tell us what the lies are please. Do enlighten the group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sour Grapes on steroids 😂

Does it sting less that your kid was rejected by slinging mud at the academy?
If you say enough times they're bad then that makes the rejection not as bad lol

Sad and pitiful

Posters are making direct points about DCU's quality that are in fact valid. You're just focused on making direct points about the posters that you have no idea about. You're actually not participating in the thread, you're just a distraction. Nothing more. You should create a different thread for just yourself that's called "only positive aspects of DCU academy..." Oh wait, that thread was already created and no one has anything good to say. Including you. Want to talk about sad and pitiful...😂

"People are entitled to their own opinions, but not their own facts"

So crazy how no facts about DCU being a great academy have been presented.

[Anonymous]

DCU 2011 parents are the worst. They walk around flexing but their kid doesn't even start or get off the bench.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://x.com/dmvsoccer96/status/1850555446177804368?s=46

Price is very good (above, actually double, his market value) for a player that isn't even in the first team squad really. Why not sell him? They probably aren't going to get more for a player that rarely plays in the MLS and is largely unproven at the professional level. He's only 17. DCU likely wants to hold on to him in the hopes they can get more because he's young. The problem with that is two fold. First and foremost, they have to continue to develop him for his market value to rise, which they have proven they can't do consistently (look at his current playing time. He played in only 10 games all season and limited minutes in those games at that. This is because they want to win first and development of youth players is a total afterthought unless something is presented to them proactively and they have to mobilize, like here. Which is even more sad because DCU was horrible this season and missed the playoffs) and secondly, DCU are complete rookies in the international transfer game and are dealing with true veterans that play and know every angle. It doesn't take a genius to know they will get outplayed and outmaneuvered. All of this doesn't bode well for the player. That, above all else, is unfortunate. Where would you rather be as a 17 year old player still developing, at DCU or in Europe playing at a premier league club with many options to get high level minutes on the first, second or academy teams which are all high level. Pretty easy decision. But DCU blocked this opportunity for their own, unrealistic and selfish, interests. It is a business at the end but this offer was reasonable. Again, this is unfortunate for the player.

What does this have to do with the academy?

This is highly relevant to the academy because this is a player that has competed the player pathway at DCU. From youth player to pro within DCU. And what you're seeing is that they are mismanaging him and you could argue that this mismanagement started much earlier. All this means is that even if you do make it through their system, which is extremely hard for all the reasons that have been outlined here, you are now dealing with inexperienced front office people messing with your career for the sole benefit of the business. You could say that is true for any business and that might be right. But if you're at this point in your career you want people that are behind you and want to see you grow even if that may mean a few less dollars in their pocket. It's not like they were asked to give him up for free. They were offered millions (with an s). If you have a legitimate potential pro, do you really think DCU is doing the absolute best for your career?? As an academy player this is a question you need to ask and you need to pay attention to these deals that are happening or not happening in this case because this is a snapshot to what could be down the road for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCU 2011 parents are the worst. They walk around flexing but their kid doesn't even start or get off the bench.

I'd be flexing too if my kid could make any of the few mls academies in the country

Not gonna lie

As the kids say, don't be hating

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCU 2011 parents are the worst. They walk around flexing but their kid doesn't even start or get off the bench.

Oh, interesting. Who doesn't even start or get off the bench?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://x.com/dmvsoccer96/status/1850555446177804368?s=46

Price is very good (above, actually double, his market value) for a player that isn't even in the first team squad really. Why not sell him? They probably aren't going to get more for a player that rarely plays in the MLS and is largely unproven at the professional level. He's only 17. DCU likely wants to hold on to him in the hopes they can get more because he's young. The problem with that is two fold. First and foremost, they have to continue to develop him for his market value to rise, which they have proven they can't do consistently (look at his current playing time. He played in only 10 games all season and limited minutes in those games at that. This is because they want to win first and development of youth players is a total afterthought unless something is presented to them proactively and they have to mobilize, like here. Which is even more sad because DCU was horrible this season and missed the playoffs) and secondly, DCU are complete rookies in the international transfer game and are dealing with true veterans that play and know every angle. It doesn't take a genius to know they will get outplayed and outmaneuvered. All of this doesn't bode well for the player. That, above all else, is unfortunate. Where would you rather be as a 17 year old player still developing, at DCU or in Europe playing at a premier league club with many options to get high level minutes on the first, second or academy teams which are all high level. Pretty easy decision. But DCU blocked this opportunity for their own, unrealistic and selfish, interests. It is a business at the end but this offer was reasonable. Again, this is unfortunate for the player.

What does this have to do with the academy?

This is highly relevant to the academy because this is a player that has competed the player pathway at DCU. From youth player to pro within DCU. And what you're seeing is that they are mismanaging him and you could argue that this mismanagement started much earlier. All this means is that even if you do make it through their system, which is extremely hard for all the reasons that have been outlined here, you are now dealing with inexperienced front office people messing with your career for the sole benefit of the business. You could say that is true for any business and that might be right. But if you're at this point in your career you want people that are behind you and want to see you grow even if that may mean a few less dollars in their pocket. It's not like they were asked to give him up for free. They were offered millions (with an s). If you have a legitimate potential pro, do you really think DCU is doing the absolute best for your career?? As an academy player this is a question you need to ask and you need to pay attention to these deals that are happening or not happening in this case because this is a snapshot to what could be down the road for you.

I know enough about contract negotiations that without being at the table and knowing the details, I shouldn't speculate too much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://x.com/dmvsoccer96/status/1850555446177804368?s=46

Price is very good (above, actually double, his market value) for a player that isn't even in the first team squad really. Why not sell him? They probably aren't going to get more for a player that rarely plays in the MLS and is largely unproven at the professional level. He's only 17. DCU likely wants to hold on to him in the hopes they can get more because he's young. The problem with that is two fold. First and foremost, they have to continue to develop him for his market value to rise, which they have proven they can't do consistently (look at his current playing time. He played in only 10 games all season and limited minutes in those games at that. This is because they want to win first and development of youth players is a total afterthought unless something is presented to them proactively and they have to mobilize, like here. Which is even more sad because DCU was horrible this season and missed the playoffs) and secondly, DCU are complete rookies in the international transfer game and are dealing with true veterans that play and know every angle. It doesn't take a genius to know they will get outplayed and outmaneuvered. All of this doesn't bode well for the player. That, above all else, is unfortunate. Where would you rather be as a 17 year old player still developing, at DCU or in Europe playing at a premier league club with many options to get high level minutes on the first, second or academy teams which are all high level. Pretty easy decision. But DCU blocked this opportunity for their own, unrealistic and selfish, interests. It is a business at the end but this offer was reasonable. Again, this is unfortunate for the player.

What does this have to do with the academy?

This is highly relevant to the academy because this is a player that has competed the player pathway at DCU. From youth player to pro within DCU. And what you're seeing is that they are mismanaging him and you could argue that this mismanagement started much earlier. All this means is that even if you do make it through their system, which is extremely hard for all the reasons that have been outlined here, you are now dealing with inexperienced front office people messing with your career for the sole benefit of the business. You could say that is true for any business and that might be right. But if you're at this point in your career you want people that are behind you and want to see you grow even if that may mean a few less dollars in their pocket. It's not like they were asked to give him up for free. They were offered millions (with an s). If you have a legitimate potential pro, do you really think DCU is doing the absolute best for your career?? As an academy player this is a question you need to ask and you need to pay attention to these deals that are happening or not happening in this case because this is a snapshot to what could be down the road for you.

I know enough about contract negotiations that without being at the table and knowing the details, I shouldn't speculate too much.

Predictable response from Mr verified facts guy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://x.com/dmvsoccer96/status/1850555446177804368?s=46

Price is very good (above, actually double, his market value) for a player that isn't even in the first team squad really. Why not sell him? They probably aren't going to get more for a player that rarely plays in the MLS and is largely unproven at the professional level. He's only 17. DCU likely wants to hold on to him in the hopes they can get more because he's young. The problem with that is two fold. First and foremost, they have to continue to develop him for his market value to rise, which they have proven they can't do consistently (look at his current playing time. He played in only 10 games all season and limited minutes in those games at that. This is because they want to win first and development of youth players is a total afterthought unless something is presented to them proactively and they have to mobilize, like here. Which is even more sad because DCU was horrible this season and missed the playoffs) and secondly, DCU are complete rookies in the international transfer game and are dealing with true veterans that play and know every angle. It doesn't take a genius to know they will get outplayed and outmaneuvered. All of this doesn't bode well for the player. That, above all else, is unfortunate. Where would you rather be as a 17 year old player still developing, at DCU or in Europe playing at a premier league club with many options to get high level minutes on the first, second or academy teams which are all high level. Pretty easy decision. But DCU blocked this opportunity for their own, unrealistic and selfish, interests. It is a business at the end but this offer was reasonable. Again, this is unfortunate for the player.

What does this have to do with the academy?

This is highly relevant to the academy because this is a player that has competed the player pathway at DCU. From youth player to pro within DCU. And what you're seeing is that they are mismanaging him and you could argue that this mismanagement started much earlier. All this means is that even if you do make it through their system, which is extremely hard for all the reasons that have been outlined here, you are now dealing with inexperienced front office people messing with your career for the sole benefit of the business. You could say that is true for any business and that might be right. But if you're at this point in your career you want people that are behind you and want to see you grow even if that may mean a few less dollars in their pocket. It's not like they were asked to give him up for free. They were offered millions (with an s). If you have a legitimate potential pro, do you really think DCU is doing the absolute best for your career?? As an academy player this is a question you need to ask and you need to pay attention to these deals that are happening or not happening in this case because this is a snapshot to what could be down the road for you.

I know enough about contract negotiations that without being at the table and knowing the details, I shouldn't speculate too much.

Predictable response from Mr verified facts guy

Yup
Everyone not on the hate dcu wagon is the same person

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sour Grapes on steroids 😂

Does it sting less that your kid was rejected by slinging mud at the academy?
If you say enough times they're bad then that makes the rejection not as bad lol

Sad and pitiful

So do you have anything to counter the points in this thread?

He doesn’t. For mr “verified facts” guy, you’re either sore bc ur kid didn’t make the cut. Or ur a current or past family who is out to destroy DCU.

How is mr verified facts guy wrong asking for verified facts?
We so comfortable in fake news world now truth doesn't matter?

There have been many facts presented. He chooses to ignore them and always counters with questions, never counters with anything to prove otherwise. Read through this thread, not once was there a post outlining the advantages DCU provides over outside academies.

Interesting stuff.
Did the people in the know list the advantages all the other academies provide over dcu for kids from the DC area?

Yes

I see something about more homegrown players makes some academies better.

I understand when kids in premiere league or la liga academies get called up to the senior team its a clear success marker or when they get sold for big money.

What does homegrown do?
Do only homegrown players go to college or Pro?

Dcu academy kids who are signed (go pro) are considered homegrown. Homegrown players don’t count towards salary limits (I think but I may not have gotten the language right).

Everyone else goes to college or tries to get signed somewhere else.

I guess a concern is that DCU is not great at maximizing their homegrowns potential and appear to be ruining young players career with not the best decisions. Maybe asking for too much when the players want to go abroad? Like fletcher and akinmboni. Yet holding on to them and not doing anything to continue to develop them.

All homegrowns for the other 25 academies are maximized to professional potential fullness?

Are only homegrowns allowed to go pro?

I'm quite sure agencies, agents and managers have negative stories about every club to go with the positive ones.

Care to share some positive ones from DCU?

When you ask this question, they all scatter like cockroaches when the lights come on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All homegrowns for the other 25 academies are maximized to professional potential fullness?

Are only homegrowns allowed to go pro?

Maybe not. But for sure better than DCU.

The homegrown path is only for academy players that have been in the club for a year and the academy believes they can join the first team. It allows them to sign with the first team and the first team not take a salary cap hit. It's just a vehicle by which the MLS asserts control over player rights so they don't miss out on transfer fees like they had been doing for decades before homegrown rules were implemented and before the MLS started to adhere to FIFA training comp and solidarity payment rules. Homegrown contracts are attractive for the MLS clubs because again, they allow them assert complete control over player rights, but much less attractive for the players because it is by definition a restriction on the players movement to another (better) situation. If you sign a homegrown deal.you better know the clubs intentions and have that spelled out or else you'll be stuck with the club stalling your movement while they try to figure out how to leverage you. What is happening with the most recent homegrown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All homegrowns for the other 25 academies are maximized to professional potential fullness?

Are only homegrowns allowed to go pro?

Maybe not. But for sure better than DCU.

The homegrown path is only for academy players that have been in the club for a year and the academy believes they can join the first team. It allows them to sign with the first team and the first team not take a salary cap hit. It's just a vehicle by which the MLS asserts control over player rights so they don't miss out on transfer fees like they had been doing for decades before homegrown rules were implemented and before the MLS started to adhere to FIFA training comp and solidarity payment rules. Homegrown contracts are attractive for the MLS clubs because again, they allow them assert complete control over player rights, but much less attractive for the players because it is by definition a restriction on the players movement to another (better) situation. If you sign a homegrown deal.you better know the clubs intentions and have that spelled out or else you'll be stuck with the club stalling your movement while they try to figure out how to leverage you. What is happening with the most recent homegrown.

LOL
This is 99.9% of this thread

'I don't really know or have facts or data to backup my "maybe" comment, but I'm sure whatever the truth is, it's better than dc 😆

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All homegrowns for the other 25 academies are maximized to professional potential fullness?

Are only homegrowns allowed to go pro?

Maybe not. But for sure better than DCU.

The homegrown path is only for academy players that have been in the club for a year and the academy believes they can join the first team. It allows them to sign with the first team and the first team not take a salary cap hit. It's just a vehicle by which the MLS asserts control over player rights so they don't miss out on transfer fees like they had been doing for decades before homegrown rules were implemented and before the MLS started to adhere to FIFA training comp and solidarity payment rules. Homegrown contracts are attractive for the MLS clubs because again, they allow them assert complete control over player rights, but much less attractive for the players because it is by definition a restriction on the players movement to another (better) situation. If you sign a homegrown deal.you better know the clubs intentions and have that spelled out or else you'll be stuck with the club stalling your movement while they try to figure out how to leverage you. What is happening with the most recent homegrown.

LOL
This is 99.9% of this thread

'I don't really know or have facts or data to backup my "maybe" comment, but I'm sure whatever the truth is, it's better than dc 😆

Typical response. Again no positive stories to share about Dcu.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All homegrowns for the other 25 academies are maximized to professional potential fullness?

Are only homegrowns allowed to go pro?

Maybe not. But for sure better than DCU.

The homegrown path is only for academy players that have been in the club for a year and the academy believes they can join the first team. It allows them to sign with the first team and the first team not take a salary cap hit. It's just a vehicle by which the MLS asserts control over player rights so they don't miss out on transfer fees like they had been doing for decades before homegrown rules were implemented and before the MLS started to adhere to FIFA training comp and solidarity payment rules. Homegrown contracts are attractive for the MLS clubs because again, they allow them assert complete control over player rights, but much less attractive for the players because it is by definition a restriction on the players movement to another (better) situation. If you sign a homegrown deal.you better know the clubs intentions and have that spelled out or else you'll be stuck with the club stalling your movement while they try to figure out how to leverage you. What is happening with the most recent homegrown.

LOL
This is 99.9% of this thread

'I don't really know or have facts or data to backup my "maybe" comment, but I'm sure whatever the truth is, it's better than dc 😆

I think you make up 99 percent of this thread with the same comments

[Anonymous]

At this point, the guys is a troll. Can we just ignore him? Zero value add to this thread.